IT DOES WORK well at least if you try this... use magnets as ball bearings ... and one solid rod for all three spinners ... also make the non spinner levels (inner walls) slightly larger then the spinners wall height
@anandaadhar its just a theory but maybe you can have magnets on the spike of the spinner so they levitate and theres no friction ... does that make sense?
Hey YOU MADE A MISTAKE. The very top magnet that applies pressure should be the same polarity as the magnetic below it. That way you can apply more pressure without the magnets sticking to each other. SO close!! do it again maybe it will work. Then show us :)
wtf??? you where so close!!!, I'm so happy I'm optimistic and never give up for real world wanted, gained results for thinking outside of the box applications dude... ; )
this is NOT supposed to rotate. It VIBRATES. This unit should be 2 foot in diameter, requires a 'free' rotating ball on a balance plate on the top. Thus unit also need to be sealed with only openings on the lower section. The magnet cause the air to ionise and it requires a sealed type unit so the ionised air can recirculate and further ionise. DO not use neo magnets as u will poison yourself from the fumes. If you want something to work, stick to the original design and it does work!
Have you ever considered using differently shaped magnets ? I've thought about making something similar for a long time, using triangular magnets on a large wheel, as the thicker part of the magnets will provide more force than the thinner parts, the configurations of which are near endless in what one could try.
as someone with a record-breaking iq, im going to try not to get frustrated here.... but NOTHING you are doing demonstrates the principle in your initial statement. move the rings up above the tops, the last ring is the one you lower into place, not some other little shity magnet... each magnet set cancels itself out so the bigger the mass, the weaker this generator will be unless you provide sheilded layers.. oh and dont forget a SPLINE-JOINED AXLE.. three tops spinning on eachother is useless.
Thank you for sharing...and not everything has to work perfectly. It can inspire others to find a solution when the inventor has reached the end of their resolve.
I FIGURED IT OUT! You have to use a RED GRANITE sphere. Not sphereS and not metal spheres. ONE single PARAMAGNETIC sphere, like red granite. It absorbs the one side of the magnet flux inducing the other side and creating SPIN!
The aluminum cones being diamagnetic and resist magnetic field penetration apparently force the gyrating fields to swirl. It's all about the swirling or torsioning magnetic field and its resonance with the electron-positron swirl of space itself, and over time its affect on the coherent alignment of the aluminum nuclei. Once that process starts it rapidly converts the rest of the aluminum nuclei with extensive external field effects, i.e. a spatial cavitation we call a black hole.
I'm designing my own version of generator based on this principal...but still quite different. Maybe you should try connecting the inner magnets together as one piece,instead of having them rotate independantly.
@xSpectrumGaming The title is: "The Word Made Manifest through Sacred Geometry" by Robert Thomas ISBN 0-9755719-0-7 Library of Congress Control Number 2004094544
@orenblau The point is that I personally do't believe that just magnetism will do the job, more is needed. So I try another design of myself. Nevertheless Hamel offers some interesting suggestions for spinning devices.
@anandaadhar how about you try taking a magnet out of the circle magnet you made making it into some sort of horseshoe magnet? just a thought. and in theory it should spin at a good speed.
@anandaadhar The wobble platform at the bottom was a critical component. The magnets provides a false gravity so it could work in many positions . The ring of magnets at each cone provided the centering as it vibrated. The bowl and ball configuration must be correct for anything to work. David insisted that the magnets interact too much fand a unit smaller than 30 inches would not work. He was very free with the information he had and spent a lot of time teaching me about his device.
mey i propose that you give a flatter surface for the under tips to move about...
an as a result will give the inner magnet rings sufficient angel to create a wave pattern between them.
in hamels original demonstration of the small magnet Ive noticed that the small spindle underneath the bugger magnet' till ted in a 45 degree angle while it was spinning all about.
you input energy by chasing the cup magnet with a ring magnet held above it by your hand. Fixed ring is unable to avoid the cup when it gets too close and is also unable to chase the cup when it gets too far. hence it fail on a fixed system. So the truth is that there is no free energy. Law of conservation of energy holds.
If it was supposedly made by aliens then it would be in space with 0 gravity and a vacuum. maybe the pull of gravity and friction of air ruin the design. 0 gravity maybe hard but to put it in a vacuum would be possible.
I don't understand what the point is.. suppose you can get these magnets to spin, what is the point? without some sort of drive shaft there is no way to harness the energy it would potentially create. This tower apparatus seems unstable and overly complicated. Using a similar idea but applying a drive shaft and some bearings it would be more stable. also, offset magnets would provide more propulsion... just my thoughts. Hamel over-complicated things making it a useless device.
@fuhgawz500 I agree for a great deal. This is not my design indeed. See my own video's about my IPMMM experiment for what I believe in myself. But understand, we first of all try to unveil the secret of the moving universe: what is the formula for this time energy we see all about us? Once we have the formula we can shift our paradigm and open up new avenues of engineering.
@fuhgawz500 It did not spin. It vibrated. The vibration caused the magnets to create a plasma. When the plasma became excited to a high enough level it caused the device to float in the air. the prototype actually flew into space un-intentionally. I believe the man that built Coral Castle In Homestead Florida used a similar device. I found pieces of it on display there.
I know this video is two years old now; but for this to work, wouldn't you need to brake the magnetic fields in the stator rings (if only slightly), causing them to have opposing forces? The fields are completely neutral, resulting in a stasis.
It wouldn't take much deviation from the current setup at all to create an alternating, driving force. In fact, too much break in the fields would probably cause instability and rubbing of the rotors. - only a small, offset break in the fields. ҉ Ѻ
Several reasons yours cant work. Its not very close to Hamel, I tried a more specific copy and doesnt work either.
You did drop the centre of gravity of each unit a little but not enough, and the critical component is missing.
The base has be mounted on balls in very carefully shaped parabolic cups, both top and bottom, the secret to the anisotropic movements lays in the motion of this piece. He also used granite for the balls and cups, and the cups have to be conductive.
the hamel gate is a sham complete lie which the originators of the idea told uneducated aging hippies that it worked to take there money from them. they give a bad name to the science of free energy. and thank you to the man posting this vid for showing the world what a bunch of scam artists they are.
Inventor creates device some time ago that apparently does things that science thought impossible, inventor dies and ideas lost and previous successful experiments cannot be repeated today.
That reads like the script for every free energy device, flying saucer motor and telepathy machine ever thought of. It would be funny if it wasn't so true.
I thought I did answer it. NO I did not see it running. It is difficult to see the details on your video but it does not look like you duplicated his device and you are dismissing it. On the 8 foot device there is less than 1/2 inch between the magnets in the cones and the vibration is approximately 1/16 inch. The device never was meant to spin as you are trying to do in your video. The Hamel Spinner was a demonstration he used and had nothing to do with what you built.
THis Person obviously never saw Dave Hamel's machine or talked to David Hamel. The only part that is supposed to rotate is the wheel at the bottom and this one is not built correctly. I assisted Dave and saw his generator.
I saw Dave's Generator when I visited him. and the base of it had a wheel not the configuration in this experiment The configuration that is in this video was only used on the space craft engine. Dave liked to share his theorys with anyone that was interested and willing to listen. The space craft engine did not rotate at all only vibrate and that is where this configuration was used. This experiment is totally bogus.
David Hamel built two machines. One was a generator and one was an engine that worked by generating antigravity by creating plasma. I saw the generator. and the engine There was a book published by Bob Thomas a man that spent time with Dave. He titled his book Sacred Geometry and contains complete blueprints of the engine. The engine will not work if the diameter is smaller than 3 feet because of the interaction between magnets. I believe Mr. Pierre Sinclair will confirm that.
NO The only operating one left the earth and I did see the pictures of that. There was an official radar confirmation of that. He died before he finished another.
There were many witnesses to that event because it caused automobiles in town to stop because of interference to the electrical systems. They were unwilling observers. I did talk to two of them.
Hamel is not the first to use this technology in modern times. Hitler had the NAZI Bell. I have not researched it but there should be some documentation on that. They used Mercury in their device. Mercury is diamagnetic. IT is fairly easy to levitate a diamagnetic material on a small scale at home. Anyone can do that I understand it also used a device like David Hamel used.
In Your experiment in the video The magnets on top must be opposing to provide down pressure. I can not tell from the video but all of the magnets in the outside rings must be opposing the magnets in the Center device (cones). The dimensions must be exact according to David. He also said that because of interaction it must be at least the size of a Canadian 45 gallon drum or American 55 gallon drum.
The goal is to cause them to vibrate not rotate and the cones were an important part of the design because when the vibration started it caused airflow between the cones. The device is basically a mechanical oscillator. I do apologize. When I first looked at your video You called it a generator and that was a different device David Hamel was building and I do not believe it would have worked. I do believe the antigravity engine worked and has been duplicated by others.
I know the Hamel story. At the overunity formum we had discussions like this about it. I understand ypu are a believer. I respect that, but you don't answer my question...
It is nothing wrong with his design. It's your understanding of the underlying physics is flawed.
Egyptians built these devices back about 3 to 4000 years ago. It is called the djed.
Leedskalnin built a similar generator , so he could work at night.
It has been used for power generation.
I was with david and he showed me how it works on a model. Too bad he died he was a good friend. I remember his helper, a fellow with white hair can't recall his name. He can attest to this. David R>I>P.
Dave used the term generator for a device he built to provide electricity at the airport where he was going to assemble the craft. He used engine for the antigravity engine for the craft. The death of his wife Nora and his cataract surgery stopped his project. Did he show you the generator or the engine? When did you visit him? I may have met you there.
I was with him in 2000 for a whole weekend with my g/f. We spent the whole time together, showed me some artifacts and some other things he got from Egypt , showed me a model of this device, the schematics of it , explained it all. It's pretty sound. I majored in physics and electronics and I was always interested in ancient history.
He showed me a remains of a ripped barrel, he said when he built it ,he forgot to put on a control ring and left it in the garage for overnight.
He sez it blew up. For the looks of it , it was pieces of metal shreds, magnets and a cone melted on the edges and over half of it missing.
This thing built by anand will never work. The design is missing more parts. The cones are one of the major parts as they are assisting in the generations of the plasma.the plasma supposed to be generated in an enclosed environment regulated by a strong magnetic field. A starter magnet in a top and a control ring on the bottom for speed control.
The red granite itself is rich in iron and other silicate materials and when it's suspended in a magnetic field, it's a perfect electric starter.
He said to understand this , one need to have extensive knowledge about material sciences.
He said it has to "sing".
Meaning it has to resonate in a certain frequency to start the magnetic field to spinning. It's a high pitch multilayer audible sound. And something about a diamond formation of the plasma as a rotating conductor.
I agree with you. I am an electronics technician with engineering but no degree. David took most of my time on my visits with him explaining how everything works. I am confident he knew what he was doing. His Cataract surgery went bad and he was not able to continue his work when I last talked to him. He called me the electrician because of some work I did for him.
i would if i had the equipement, but i have not. but if u could shrink your generator to the size of ur pin heads and try and make the pin hover using the magnetic force.then there is nothing stoping it from moving. easier said than done, but good work. im really impressed.
I think that the initial experiment were you showed the rotating cub is completely different from the tower experiment. I think you basically pull the cub over the table with the ring magnet. This generates the rotation because the ball under the cub is pulled over a slanting axis. Thats also why it didnt work on top of the jar; there was no movement involved. I think you couldnt make the spin either if you would keep your pulling hand still in mid air. Next message
nope he needs the cones to be there for the magnetic force to take effect . David himself showed it to me how it works. The whole thing is put together wrong. And yes.. he is way off with this contraption. No offense , but hes trying to run a car without wheels ..lol
looks like you have your frame bolted together with steel rods,try plastic,aluminum or lead rods, a steel or iron ect.frame interferes with the magnets spin.
Just a thought . Why not do a single level , upscaled version . All you need to make electricity is magnetic movement to induce induction.And it seems you have this. Also why not upgrade to beeter magnet with stonger gause? Pinemontgo
Triatomic Fuel Cells Inc. I use magnetic distortion in my processors and I can see some refinements that would go a long way to get the results needed.
Wow, awesome work there! I just saw a comment on the hameltech that it's not about the wobbling, it's all about the air flow. If this is correct you really must try to use cones and as a previous comment states it should probably follow the geometric rules for equalateral triangles. You have done such an awsome job on this construction and I can only hope you are willing to do a last effort with this cone change.
That's cool! Just thought that it would be a piece of cake for you to change the design a bit as you have already done the hard work already. Anyhow I'm looking forward to follow your other work and I hope for all of us that there will be succes because that would be a real eye opener for the masses. Atleast I hope so. I really can't belive people are so blind as it seems, I think they just need something to push them into a new way of thinking, and a working free energy design might do that..
Try using cones that follow the geometric rules for equalateral triangles. Instead of wood try aluminum. Please, if use this advice and if it works for you post the vid on youtube.
Anand, would it be feasible to try the approach of replacing the Wankel configuration with the Halbach configuration for the multiple stacks of rotor/stator pairs? In my minds eye I see the Halbach configuration being able to accomplish two advantages:
1)greatly reducing the vertical axial wobbling of the stack;
2) providing the friction-reduced gyroscopic movement on the bottom bearing action due to balanced magnetic levitation.
In the generator as shown, perhaps the wobbling of each stage may be reduced by narrowing the air gap between the stator/rotor pairs, i.e., larger diameter rotor with a smaller diameter stator for each stage.
I realize now this is a "duh" obvious comment. Haha.
Interesting. I've been thinking about the hallbach array, but have not experimented with it yet, so I'm not sure as to what it actually would do in a circular setup apart from cancelling the field at one side. But please give it a try and show me....there is so much that needs to be tested, I can't do it all alone.
I know this thing doesnt work......but I want one! It just looks like fun!!!! Like one of those steel ball sets in executive offices that go click click click as they go back and forth......
You dont want to sell yours do ya, since it didnt work and all :)
Scientist already tested for perpetual motion for the last 200 years with laboratories ans scientific instruments, if it existed they would of found it, gravity tests confirm, Gravity contains no working energy unless energy is put into it and then it only stores that energy until it's all used up, gravity is only a carrier of stored energy, Magnetism is also a carrier of field friction and it has no unbound energy to do work unless energy is added to the system.
Way to go. I agree fully with you. As you notice in the video the machine does not work. He'll never get it to work. The poor guy is wasting his time trying to get his mechanism to work. Unfortunately, most of these ideas work with permanent magnets, which always will end up in equilibrium.
He'll work on this for his entire lifetime and still won't get the thing to work as he believes it will.
i watched this video, and i think its a good replica, but some things are missing, the cones were supposed to be metal rite? alluminium or steel im not sure. anywayz , best of luck
Thanks for the reply. I really do respect you even trying this experiment. I wish I had the money and the time to do it. I have seen many try it, but each time they varied from the way David explained it and then claimed it did not work. Someday I would like to see someone actually build one per his accounts and then see if it works.
There are more faithfull replications than mine, complete with metal cones and ring magnets at the edges. None of these attempts did better than I (produce some temporary wobble). The concept of gravity set against magnetism maybe correct, but the design is wrong . Take a look at the overunity forum
Others posted their versions there. There is also a Hameltech discussion group (see other comments to this video).
So... because YOU could not get it to work, the technology must be imposible. Good thing that belief did not belong to the ones who first tried to make a gasoline engine, an airplane or anything else we now have.
No I don't say impossible, in this design it may be impossible though. I personally think the Hamel effect of a spinning magnet disc makes for a useful drive in a magnet motor. Hamel I improved upon with the cakra disc of my IPMM research. Such a disc is an example of further employing the Hamel effect. Still one must believe in outcome when one is testing one's theories with experiments like these. For science there is no other way and I subscribe to this.
I used to read a lot on hamel generators. I thought it was not supposed to spin... it is not a mechanical generator. and I thought it was supposed to be made of metal (not wood) to create an electrical field. I guess I need to go back and read again.
That is correct, Hamel made cones of metal and said the air between would be ionized with little black holes or something. Spinning was not his aim with this thing. I found this out later. Nevertheless i rest my case because any proof that it ever worked is absent. We only have Hamels word....
Ive read about this and thought about building it myself, Hamel reported a number of curios effects associated with the device but I dont think anyone has been able to reproduce them~
Correct, Hamel was enthused about the effect of the ringmagnet spinning on another ringmagnet. The rest was idealism. And yes, the Hamel spinner is a useful drive insufficiently explored. My IPMM cakra disc is an improvement of the Hamel disc allowing for more fixation in a frame. This is what I am exploring now. This replication was just my respect for Hamels' insight in the rotation of magnets. Finsrud as yet I consider the best lead in harnessing magnetism though. See my watch?v=E9GucVwc36Q
Why not limit the uppermost rotor sections ability to gimble a bit.
Build a restraint attached to all four pillars, by whatever means, (taught string?) attached to a thin plastic hoop or similar. It could still gimble about, but only in a certain range.
Then allow the topmost pickup maget, to do the same.
Let me tell you this though anandaadhar, i really admire people such as yourself, who actually are trying to make progress through experimentaion, and don't just say 'No, this will never work, so don't even try'.
People like you are going to ultimately save our world, not the greedy people at the top of the heap!
Thank you for being one of the good guys.
And please carry on, you obviously have great construction skills.
The spinner requires 1 magnet missing from the circle or it wont spin.
However, this is not the most obvious point people miss. The device works perfectly if you fit it on a vehicle. Bolting it down on the planet surface doesn't work.
Another thing to keep in mind, most people never got it to work. Those who did quickly got bored with the debate. You can imagine.
Gaby, the original Hamel design of this thing is not for spinning but for wobbling I found out later. He used a closed magnet ring setup here, not an open one, therefore this type. The window still demo proves that ringmagnets deliver spin. Anyhow, an open circle disturbs the balance in this set up. A fixed stator simply does not lead to spin. Hamel's flying saucer never flew, so the vehicle option is not working ether. Who was that who made it work Gaby? In ieder geval groetjes van René.
I beleave you should mount all three stators on a single axle and re-adjust the outer rings for maximum push. then start adjusting the end magnet for rotation.the wobble is canceling out the repultion forces.
in de buitenste ring magneten,.... dus waar de rotor "in" draait,.....moet in cm aan ruimte open blijven,..met anderewoorden haal 1 m aan magneten weg,..dan moet het werken,..dus op elke verdieping 1 cm open maken,...succes
De open ruimte methode was niet de oorspronkelijke opzet van Hamel voor de GMD. Niettemin heb ik dat geprobeerd natuurlijk. Ook voor de 'open gap' is het nodig dat de rotor mag weglopen van de stator. Dus dat geeft ook geen resultaat.
Hamel claimed even that one of his models 'exploded'. Nobody saw it happen. but he really believed the thing would even fly! The theory never fully matured, Hamel mentioned something like ionized air in metal cups, which would challende the space energy. See the "David Hamel" docum. vids elsewhere on YouTube. Google for Sinclair - CONSTRUCTION OF THE GRAVITO MAGNETIC DEVICE (GMD) - a theoretical description.
On the window still it was attraction mode. In the machine I tried both, it also depends on the relative size of the ringmagnets used. It doesn't matter, spin is not maintained once fixed in a frame.
don't give up already! maybe this concept don't work, but I'm sure that with the combination of magnets, gravity and speed of rotation, we can find something! Thanks for you video, you inspired me for a prototype I will make soon.
if all these 3 wheels are not connected firmly with eachother there is no hope that it cud spin the rotor on the top . join them first so the force could b transferred properly.
Very nice work. I was impressed by the effort you took, if it could work it would have with your setup. You took a good deal of time and effort. Very interesting to watch...and yes you could have faked success...Nice work.
Have you ever seen the hamel spinner. Maybe you should try and make the top part off of the design of the hamel spinner. It may be able to help get the spin a little bit easier in the beginning and keep it going.
Of course we studied existing relipcations. It is not spin but wobble one is after with this design. But the claim of a working one remains with Hamel himself. In fact it is a belief system so I found out. Maybe it ever will, but maybe also Hamel was just a good entertainer and motivator..... Possibly we have to walk our own path. As yet only Searl and Finsrud may enjoy the benefit of doubt with their claims of selfrunning. Searl was replicated, Finsrud not, but anybody may check him.
Also the 'gap-gate'-model needs a rotor which is allowed to be running away from the stator. Fixing the rotor leads to a stall allways. Magnetism running for itself gives no energy, another basic force of nature like gravity must be involved to raise energy. Energy is there because of a difference not because of sameness. I tried to create a difference with timing the magnetic against itself, but that is of no avail. The only exception to this rule seems to be the 'electron centrifuge' of Searl.
anandaahar, Have not read all comments but the frame could possibly made of wooden dowells and thus relieving any frame input. Eddy currents in frame could cause havoc. Interesting effort.
I think this could produce more interesting results without using the words ZPE, "primordial field", "sacred geometry", and just concentrating in the facts seen and using normal scientific language
Anyways, the 3CD is only the beginning. It gets even MORE fascinating beyond this. But I don't have time to educate little farts called Drevtoobe. In fact, no time for anyone. If you want answers. Don't bother looking, because none of you will probably understand. It's BEYOND you! LOL!
Stop the name calling please. I will delete if you go on like this. can you accept that I say, I have learned from this experience and that I am following my course with this lesson in mind? At present I continue my research in the direction of a gravito-magnetic sterling engine using a Bedini gate, for a space-energy piston, the gate that Bedini described concerning the Hamel spinner. The 3CD setup inspired me to this gate. So Hameltech does count, but maybe not entirely the way it expected to.
Another thing I learned from the 3CD is not to be focussed so much on obtaining a spin from the magnets, but more on the wobble created by the magnetic ring gate that is pressured from above. I try now to harness that effect in a classical type of Sterling motor. For further details please see what I said in the discussion at the overunity. com forum about the gravity magnetic motor. I will, upon success, eventually start a new thread there about it named 'Vishnu-yantra GMS ethermachine'.
It's amazing how egotistical people can get when they come on here with no experience in this particular field of science and start dictating 'terms' to everyone. Children? The only one being childish here bud, is you!
I have over 5 years working in these physics. I knew David Hamel personally. I have alot of background knowledge surrounding this science. And what do you have? EGO. Or a debunkist attitude? Fuck, people like you are a dime a dozen!
Let's not quarrel about this, some are believers, some are sceptics. I respect both, because they are two sides of the same scientific coin. My preliminary conclusion: we have not arrived at OU with the 3CD setup. So our research is inconclusive, with my setup it doesn't work, another may very well do. Okay?
Sorry Anandaadar, it's this person Drevtoobe I am not respecting too much. He's quite immature. You keep going on your work and I hope you learn some stuff doing it.
To quote our friend Mattihorn, "Yes. I have an engineering degree. I also study astrophysics and nature in general."
Based on his inability to answer a few questions with any "engineering street cred", I will state that he was bluffing, he just blurted out that he was an engineer in the heat of the moment. The shame!
Mattihorn, you have been qualified! Why you did that is beyond me.
There are no micro black holes in any spinning top arrangement...
Is the top stator to low maybe?
File404Error 2 weeks ago
IT DOES WORK well at least if you try this... use magnets as ball bearings ... and one solid rod for all three spinners ... also make the non spinner levels (inner walls) slightly larger then the spinners wall height
lookkool3 3 weeks ago
@lookkool3 Show me!
anandaadhar 3 weeks ago
@anandaadhar its just a theory but maybe you can have magnets on the spike of the spinner so they levitate and theres no friction ... does that make sense?
lookkool3 3 weeks ago
@lookkool3 the base can be shaking on magnets, not the spike. But that won't make much of a difference to the result.
anandaadhar 3 weeks ago
@anandaadhar im making something like this too but its different i'll send you a link to a video when its done
lookkool3 2 weeks ago
Hey YOU MADE A MISTAKE. The very top magnet that applies pressure should be the same polarity as the magnetic below it. That way you can apply more pressure without the magnets sticking to each other. SO close!! do it again maybe it will work. Then show us :)
justanuthrfobfan 3 months ago
@justanuthrfobfan I tried that also, thank you.
anandaadhar 3 months ago
wtf??? you where so close!!!, I'm so happy I'm optimistic and never give up for real world wanted, gained results for thinking outside of the box applications dude... ; )
GoldSquare05 5 months ago
this is NOT supposed to rotate. It VIBRATES. This unit should be 2 foot in diameter, requires a 'free' rotating ball on a balance plate on the top. Thus unit also need to be sealed with only openings on the lower section. The magnet cause the air to ionise and it requires a sealed type unit so the ionised air can recirculate and further ionise. DO not use neo magnets as u will poison yourself from the fumes. If you want something to work, stick to the original design and it does work!
anthonyuification 5 months ago
Have you ever considered using differently shaped magnets ? I've thought about making something similar for a long time, using triangular magnets on a large wheel, as the thicker part of the magnets will provide more force than the thinner parts, the configurations of which are near endless in what one could try.
pheonx23 5 months ago
the magnets on the spindle might ,have to be at an angle 30 40 degrees??
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TheHardEdged 6 months ago
as someone with a record-breaking iq, im going to try not to get frustrated here.... but NOTHING you are doing demonstrates the principle in your initial statement. move the rings up above the tops, the last ring is the one you lower into place, not some other little shity magnet... each magnet set cancels itself out so the bigger the mass, the weaker this generator will be unless you provide sheilded layers.. oh and dont forget a SPLINE-JOINED AXLE.. three tops spinning on eachother is useless.
NoathanOthing 7 months ago
Thank you for sharing...and not everything has to work perfectly. It can inspire others to find a solution when the inventor has reached the end of their resolve.
yermyahu 8 months ago
The cups are upside down!
Rayrife 8 months ago
I FIGURED IT OUT! You have to use a RED GRANITE sphere. Not sphereS and not metal spheres. ONE single PARAMAGNETIC sphere, like red granite. It absorbs the one side of the magnet flux inducing the other side and creating SPIN!
lightbodyification 9 months ago
what if you made the rods into Tesla like coils and use ball barrings (metal balls). and build this around glass pipe and fill it with salt water.
lonelycon 9 months ago
@lonelycon try it !
anandaadhar 9 months ago
seems like it might work if u had a way to build one of these that was super-precise, wond
MrGeoffrey834 9 months ago
The aluminum cones being diamagnetic and resist magnetic field penetration apparently force the gyrating fields to swirl. It's all about the swirling or torsioning magnetic field and its resonance with the electron-positron swirl of space itself, and over time its affect on the coherent alignment of the aluminum nuclei. Once that process starts it rapidly converts the rest of the aluminum nuclei with extensive external field effects, i.e. a spatial cavitation we call a black hole.
dsands47 10 months ago
the gravito magnetic force the the magnetic counterpart to gravity. gravito magnetism can be amplyfied usint a superconductor, and creating a BEC.
BeingOfLight1111 10 months ago
you did a good job, thank you for proving its a non-worker
machinationu 10 months ago
ur top 2 magnet size should be same... check the david hamel blue print i guess it will work if u make those magnet same size...
patelmitesh46 10 months ago
Suspend the whole thing by a string, to let it wobble.
w13rdguy 11 months ago
I'm designing my own version of generator based on this principal...but still quite different. Maybe you should try connecting the inner magnets together as one piece,instead of having them rotate independantly.
phantomofoz 11 months ago
I,m convinced a "flat plane" approach will no work on this type of experiment.
A ball style configuration might be more fruitful
InteriorCommando 1 year ago
Is there a book or a website that teaches you how to make one? I've got an idea...
xSpectrumGaming 1 year ago
@xSpectrumGaming The title is: "The Word Made Manifest through Sacred Geometry" by Robert Thomas ISBN 0-9755719-0-7 Library of Congress Control Number 2004094544
RVtraveler2 11 months ago
+ he had a double wobble plat underneaths
try to recreate the rotation affect on each layer you build.
that it will all ready fulfill the rotation action for every spindle you ley down...
at moment of contact
orenblau 1 year ago
@orenblau The point is that I personally do't believe that just magnetism will do the job, more is needed. So I try another design of myself. Nevertheless Hamel offers some interesting suggestions for spinning devices.
anandaadhar 1 year ago
@anandaadhar how about you try taking a magnet out of the circle magnet you made making it into some sort of horseshoe magnet? just a thought. and in theory it should spin at a good speed.
giant648 1 year ago
@giant648 It will escape to one side in this setup.
anandaadhar 1 year ago
@anandaadhar The wobble platform at the bottom was a critical component. The magnets provides a false gravity so it could work in many positions . The ring of magnets at each cone provided the centering as it vibrated. The bowl and ball configuration must be correct for anything to work. David insisted that the magnets interact too much fand a unit smaller than 30 inches would not work. He was very free with the information he had and spent a lot of time teaching me about his device.
RVtraveler2 11 months ago
@orenblau It did not rotate . It vibrated or oscillated
RVtraveler2 11 months ago
great wark
i have a diploma in biotechnology but i m fascinated by modern physics
i wander what if at the top of each spindle you will make a flat surface.
just to make it wander a bit.
such an action will make the spindles tilt in a 45 degree from the center
and while it rotate it will form a wave like pattern between them
.(same angle shown by the demonstration of hamel him self. /\/||)
and another thing: have you heard of Circular Halbach magnet array?
orenblau 1 year ago
anandaadhar
great work :)
very allegant .
i have a diploma in biotechnology
but advance physics all wise fascinated me :)
mey i propose that you give a flatter surface for the under tips to move about...
an as a result will give the inner magnet rings sufficient angel to create a wave pattern between them.
in hamels original demonstration of the small magnet Ive noticed that the small spindle underneath the bugger magnet' till ted in a 45 degree angle while it was spinning all about.
- /\/ ||
orenblau 1 year ago
you input energy by chasing the cup magnet with a ring magnet held above it by your hand. Fixed ring is unable to avoid the cup when it gets too close and is also unable to chase the cup when it gets too far. hence it fail on a fixed system. So the truth is that there is no free energy. Law of conservation of energy holds.
97pattan 1 year ago
@97pattan no free energy from magnetics only, but in combination with other forces it just might work, see my other videos
anandaadhar 1 year ago
Why don't you try lowering the top magnet at a certain point and spin it very very fast...
21ledo 1 year ago
@21ledo The point is that I shouldn't do anything at all in the end.
anandaadhar 1 year ago
even if this device did spin i dont think you would get any torque and more torque = more power
unix001 1 year ago
@unix001 Once you now the principle, you can scale it up. Step by step is all that evolution is about.
anandaadhar 1 year ago
If it was supposedly made by aliens then it would be in space with 0 gravity and a vacuum. maybe the pull of gravity and friction of air ruin the design. 0 gravity maybe hard but to put it in a vacuum would be possible.
patrick258181 1 year ago
I don't understand what the point is.. suppose you can get these magnets to spin, what is the point? without some sort of drive shaft there is no way to harness the energy it would potentially create. This tower apparatus seems unstable and overly complicated. Using a similar idea but applying a drive shaft and some bearings it would be more stable. also, offset magnets would provide more propulsion... just my thoughts. Hamel over-complicated things making it a useless device.
fuhgawz500 1 year ago
@fuhgawz500 I agree for a great deal. This is not my design indeed. See my own video's about my IPMMM experiment for what I believe in myself. But understand, we first of all try to unveil the secret of the moving universe: what is the formula for this time energy we see all about us? Once we have the formula we can shift our paradigm and open up new avenues of engineering.
anandaadhar 1 year ago
@fuhgawz500 It did not spin. It vibrated. The vibration caused the magnets to create a plasma. When the plasma became excited to a high enough level it caused the device to float in the air. the prototype actually flew into space un-intentionally. I believe the man that built Coral Castle In Homestead Florida used a similar device. I found pieces of it on display there.
RVtraveler2 11 months ago
Great work tryng. Thank you.
abalorladakor 1 year ago
I know this video is two years old now; but for this to work, wouldn't you need to brake the magnetic fields in the stator rings (if only slightly), causing them to have opposing forces? The fields are completely neutral, resulting in a stasis.
It wouldn't take much deviation from the current setup at all to create an alternating, driving force. In fact, too much break in the fields would probably cause instability and rubbing of the rotors. - only a small, offset break in the fields. ҉ Ѻ
RonRay 1 year ago
why not try a continuous axis connecting the three rotors and fixed at a given distance
ozotik 1 year ago
por que no intentas con un eje continuo que conecte los tres rotores y los fije a una distancia determinada
ozotik 1 year ago
This is promising, keep going-zehr gut!
MegaPendergast 1 year ago
who says it cant spine like that, just put a repel down, not up, so that it is suspended without gravitation or friction
tinsaovez 1 year ago
Hey anandaadhar
Several reasons yours cant work. Its not very close to Hamel, I tried a more specific copy and doesnt work either.
You did drop the centre of gravity of each unit a little but not enough, and the critical component is missing.
The base has be mounted on balls in very carefully shaped parabolic cups, both top and bottom, the secret to the anisotropic movements lays in the motion of this piece. He also used granite for the balls and cups, and the cups have to be conductive.
TheSiliconWizard 1 year ago
All the energy comes from the intervention of his hand.
quantumOflux 1 year ago
perhaps you are alternating an electric current through the larger ring magnets causing opposite attractions from the adjacent magnets.
shinseinaryuu 1 year ago
this could work!
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
the hamel gate is a sham complete lie which the originators of the idea told uneducated aging hippies that it worked to take there money from them. they give a bad name to the science of free energy. and thank you to the man posting this vid for showing the world what a bunch of scam artists they are.
ninnzbinnz 1 year ago
Fraud physics.
rjholling 1 year ago
intruiging
scenecheck123MYJ 1 year ago
magnets on the outside of the bar along with the top anf bottom. positive negative positive negative shamwows
libertylives2 1 year ago
Inventor creates device some time ago that apparently does things that science thought impossible, inventor dies and ideas lost and previous successful experiments cannot be repeated today.
That reads like the script for every free energy device, flying saucer motor and telepathy machine ever thought of. It would be funny if it wasn't so true.
zzytrewq 1 year ago
thank you very much anandaadhar this was very informative. keep up the good work.
natdrip 1 year ago
I'm no expert but I think the magnets aren't well made since... the magnetic rings look rather imbalanced..
kkjgg112391 1 year ago
I thought I did answer it. NO I did not see it running. It is difficult to see the details on your video but it does not look like you duplicated his device and you are dismissing it. On the 8 foot device there is less than 1/2 inch between the magnets in the cones and the vibration is approximately 1/16 inch. The device never was meant to spin as you are trying to do in your video. The Hamel Spinner was a demonstration he used and had nothing to do with what you built.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
THis Person obviously never saw Dave Hamel's machine or talked to David Hamel. The only part that is supposed to rotate is the wheel at the bottom and this one is not built correctly. I assisted Dave and saw his generator.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
there is no wheel at the bottom... its a vibratory unit
Nobody saw a working copy of the machine....you neither.
anandaadhar 1 year ago
I saw Dave's Generator when I visited him. and the base of it had a wheel not the configuration in this experiment The configuration that is in this video was only used on the space craft engine. Dave liked to share his theorys with anyone that was interested and willing to listen. The space craft engine did not rotate at all only vibrate and that is where this configuration was used. This experiment is totally bogus.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
And how long did that work Mr Bogus finder.....
anandaadhar 1 year ago
David Hamel built two machines. One was a generator and one was an engine that worked by generating antigravity by creating plasma. I saw the generator. and the engine There was a book published by Bob Thomas a man that spent time with Dave. He titled his book Sacred Geometry and contains complete blueprints of the engine. The engine will not work if the diameter is smaller than 3 feet because of the interaction between magnets. I believe Mr. Pierre Sinclair will confirm that.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
That is all hearsay, have you actually seen the thing working yourself or not?
anandaadhar 1 year ago
That is for more than ten minutes continuously without intervention.
anandaadhar 1 year ago
NO The only operating one left the earth and I did see the pictures of that. There was an official radar confirmation of that. He died before he finished another.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
There were many witnesses to that event because it caused automobiles in town to stop because of interference to the electrical systems. They were unwilling observers. I did talk to two of them.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
Hamel is not the first to use this technology in modern times. Hitler had the NAZI Bell. I have not researched it but there should be some documentation on that. They used Mercury in their device. Mercury is diamagnetic. IT is fairly easy to levitate a diamagnetic material on a small scale at home. Anyone can do that I understand it also used a device like David Hamel used.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
In Your experiment in the video The magnets on top must be opposing to provide down pressure. I can not tell from the video but all of the magnets in the outside rings must be opposing the magnets in the Center device (cones). The dimensions must be exact according to David. He also said that because of interaction it must be at least the size of a Canadian 45 gallon drum or American 55 gallon drum.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
The goal is to cause them to vibrate not rotate and the cones were an important part of the design because when the vibration started it caused airflow between the cones. The device is basically a mechanical oscillator. I do apologize. When I first looked at your video You called it a generator and that was a different device David Hamel was building and I do not believe it would have worked. I do believe the antigravity engine worked and has been duplicated by others.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
I know the Hamel story. At the overunity formum we had discussions like this about it. I understand ypu are a believer. I respect that, but you don't answer my question...
anandaadhar 1 year ago
It is nothing wrong with his design. It's your understanding of the underlying physics is flawed.
Egyptians built these devices back about 3 to 4000 years ago. It is called the djed.
Leedskalnin built a similar generator , so he could work at night.
It has been used for power generation.
I was with david and he showed me how it works on a model. Too bad he died he was a good friend. I remember his helper, a fellow with white hair can't recall his name. He can attest to this. David R>I>P.
alteans 1 year ago
He should haver shown you a working copy not just a model. Nobody saw it work, that is the problem...
anandaadhar 1 year ago
Dave used the term generator for a device he built to provide electricity at the airport where he was going to assemble the craft. He used engine for the antigravity engine for the craft. The death of his wife Nora and his cataract surgery stopped his project. Did he show you the generator or the engine? When did you visit him? I may have met you there.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
I was with him in 2000 for a whole weekend with my g/f. We spent the whole time together, showed me some artifacts and some other things he got from Egypt , showed me a model of this device, the schematics of it , explained it all. It's pretty sound. I majored in physics and electronics and I was always interested in ancient history.
He showed me a remains of a ripped barrel, he said when he built it ,he forgot to put on a control ring and left it in the garage for overnight.
alteans 1 year ago
He sez it blew up. For the looks of it , it was pieces of metal shreds, magnets and a cone melted on the edges and over half of it missing.
This thing built by anand will never work. The design is missing more parts. The cones are one of the major parts as they are assisting in the generations of the plasma.the plasma supposed to be generated in an enclosed environment regulated by a strong magnetic field. A starter magnet in a top and a control ring on the bottom for speed control.
alteans 1 year ago
The spinning , vibrating cones has to create a compression effect and the apparatus itself has to be made in a minimum of 3, 3 1/2 feet of a size.
That's why the best size for it a bicycle wheel. It's a good size to start with.
He said for the bottom ball , you can use a billiard ball as a substitute, but best would work a red granite giving it's special properties.
alteans 1 year ago
The red granite itself is rich in iron and other silicate materials and when it's suspended in a magnetic field, it's a perfect electric starter.
He said to understand this , one need to have extensive knowledge about material sciences.
He said it has to "sing".
Meaning it has to resonate in a certain frequency to start the magnetic field to spinning. It's a high pitch multilayer audible sound. And something about a diamond formation of the plasma as a rotating conductor.
alteans 1 year ago
Well.. Pretty much it. This might sound a confusing, but if you've seen this thing for yourself it all makes sense.
As for his passing,my buddy went to see him in my stead, since I was occupied elsewhere at the time.
We did speak on the phone sometimes, but the last call wasn't to uplifting as he knew, that he was on the way out.
Wanted me to come by and give me some of his project to finish up some later time .
I guess all his dreams of finishing the rest of it, died with him. R.I.P Dave.
alteans 1 year ago
I agree with you. I am an electronics technician with engineering but no degree. David took most of my time on my visits with him explaining how everything works. I am confident he knew what he was doing. His Cataract surgery went bad and he was not able to continue his work when I last talked to him. He called me the electrician because of some work I did for him.
RVtraveler2 1 year ago
Whatever
anandaadhar 1 year ago
let me help you out the reason it sspun your small magnet in the counter is that your hand was moving like chaseing the small mag across the counter
lostone4711 2 years ago
what about a 3rd magnet pushing from one side of the top 2??
rdeys420 2 years ago
also the rings look too low. in the first video you showed force from above and in the generator they look like they are below center.
rdeys420 2 years ago
ffs, i watch all that for nothing. it dont even work. more useless junk in my brain taken up space and time.
nfusionthemes 2 years ago
i would if i had the equipement, but i have not. but if u could shrink your generator to the size of ur pin heads and try and make the pin hover using the magnetic force.then there is nothing stoping it from moving. easier said than done, but good work. im really impressed.
jim2theb 2 years ago
cant u put magnets inbetween each the pointers, so it would stop any friction?
jim2theb 2 years ago
try it, show it.. let me see....
anandaadhar 2 years ago
You tried
I think that the initial experiment were you showed the rotating cub is completely different from the tower experiment. I think you basically pull the cub over the table with the ring magnet. This generates the rotation because the ball under the cub is pulled over a slanting axis. Thats also why it didnt work on top of the jar; there was no movement involved. I think you couldnt make the spin either if you would keep your pulling hand still in mid air. Next message
mailtob 2 years ago
Thats what you do in the tower experiment. And balance, your tower, is dead.
But wow you tried. Very nice.
Thanks for being
mailtob 2 years ago 2
is it a problem with insufficient mass?
Frankendaddy 2 years ago
nope he needs the cones to be there for the magnetic force to take effect . David himself showed it to me how it works. The whole thing is put together wrong. And yes.. he is way off with this contraption. No offense , but hes trying to run a car without wheels ..lol
alteans 1 year ago
looks like you have your frame bolted together with steel rods,try plastic,aluminum or lead rods, a steel or iron ect.frame interferes with the magnets spin.
MrTonyBrowning 2 years ago
Would work,but you have the frame made out of metal and that interferes with the spin.
MrTonyBrowning 2 years ago
Just a thought . Why not do a single level , upscaled version . All you need to make electricity is magnetic movement to induce induction.And it seems you have this. Also why not upgrade to beeter magnet with stonger gause? Pinemontgo
Triatomic Fuel Cells Inc. I use magnetic distortion in my processors and I can see some refinements that would go a long way to get the results needed.
pinemontgo 2 years ago
Have you tried George Green's method of leaving a gap in the outer magnet ring?
I know he's nuts, but I think its worth a try.
nodhear 2 years ago
It doesn't get any better with G.Greens gap. I prefer the cakra whirl of magnets. That is most sensitive to spin.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
Wow, awesome work there! I just saw a comment on the hameltech that it's not about the wobbling, it's all about the air flow. If this is correct you really must try to use cones and as a previous comment states it should probably follow the geometric rules for equalateral triangles. You have done such an awsome job on this construction and I can only hope you are willing to do a last effort with this cone change.
DimensionWanderer 2 years ago
I wait till there is some success with that research group. I did not intend to take the lead on this concept. I do my own design research.(IPMM)
anandaadhar 2 years ago
That's cool! Just thought that it would be a piece of cake for you to change the design a bit as you have already done the hard work already. Anyhow I'm looking forward to follow your other work and I hope for all of us that there will be succes because that would be a real eye opener for the masses. Atleast I hope so. I really can't belive people are so blind as it seems, I think they just need something to push them into a new way of thinking, and a working free energy design might do that..
DimensionWanderer 2 years ago
I built a Magnetic Generator that currently provides free electricity to all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:
magniwork-review.blogspot(DOT)com
abmod03 2 years ago
I built a Magnetic Generator that is currently providing free electricity for all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:
magniwork-review.blogspot(DOT)com
abmod01 2 years ago
Try using cones that follow the geometric rules for equalateral triangles. Instead of wood try aluminum. Please, if use this advice and if it works for you post the vid on youtube.
knowitall599 2 years ago
This has been done by others. None of them worked. See the overunity forum discussion on this.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
vast en zeker een nederlander
melkpak1 2 years ago
Jij ook al, als het maar niet besmettelijk is...
anandaadhar 2 years ago
Anand, would it be feasible to try the approach of replacing the Wankel configuration with the Halbach configuration for the multiple stacks of rotor/stator pairs? In my minds eye I see the Halbach configuration being able to accomplish two advantages:
1)greatly reducing the vertical axial wobbling of the stack;
2) providing the friction-reduced gyroscopic movement on the bottom bearing action due to balanced magnetic levitation.
DancingSpiderman 2 years ago
In the generator as shown, perhaps the wobbling of each stage may be reduced by narrowing the air gap between the stator/rotor pairs, i.e., larger diameter rotor with a smaller diameter stator for each stage.
I realize now this is a "duh" obvious comment. Haha.
Sorry. I try.
DancingSpiderman 2 years ago
Interesting. I've been thinking about the hallbach array, but have not experimented with it yet, so I'm not sure as to what it actually would do in a circular setup apart from cancelling the field at one side. But please give it a try and show me....there is so much that needs to be tested, I can't do it all alone.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
It is kind of sad but we have to deal with the truth about Gravity and Magnetism, we can't fool Mother Nature.
onthecuttingedge2005 2 years ago
But I don't pretend that we would know it all. All paradigms are replaced after some time. New discoveries will come.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
I know this thing doesnt work......but I want one! It just looks like fun!!!! Like one of those steel ball sets in executive offices that go click click click as they go back and forth......
You dont want to sell yours do ya, since it didnt work and all :)
frankensteinmoneymac 2 years ago
Scientist already tested for perpetual motion for the last 200 years with laboratories ans scientific instruments, if it existed they would of found it, gravity tests confirm, Gravity contains no working energy unless energy is put into it and then it only stores that energy until it's all used up, gravity is only a carrier of stored energy, Magnetism is also a carrier of field friction and it has no unbound energy to do work unless energy is added to the system.
onthecuttingedge2005 2 years ago
Way to go. I agree fully with you. As you notice in the video the machine does not work. He'll never get it to work. The poor guy is wasting his time trying to get his mechanism to work. Unfortunately, most of these ideas work with permanent magnets, which always will end up in equilibrium.
He'll work on this for his entire lifetime and still won't get the thing to work as he believes it will.
UnderManiac 2 years ago
nice model
Youchube18 2 years ago
i watched this video, and i think its a good replica, but some things are missing, the cones were supposed to be metal rite? alluminium or steel im not sure. anywayz , best of luck
energyscience 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply. I really do respect you even trying this experiment. I wish I had the money and the time to do it. I have seen many try it, but each time they varied from the way David explained it and then claimed it did not work. Someday I would like to see someone actually build one per his accounts and then see if it works.
MyAgentBryan 2 years ago
There are more faithfull replications than mine, complete with metal cones and ring magnets at the edges. None of these attempts did better than I (produce some temporary wobble). The concept of gravity set against magnetism maybe correct, but the design is wrong . Take a look at the overunity forum
Others posted their versions there. There is also a Hameltech discussion group (see other comments to this video).
anandaadhar 2 years ago
So... because YOU could not get it to work, the technology must be imposible. Good thing that belief did not belong to the ones who first tried to make a gasoline engine, an airplane or anything else we now have.
MyAgentBryan 2 years ago
No I don't say impossible, in this design it may be impossible though. I personally think the Hamel effect of a spinning magnet disc makes for a useful drive in a magnet motor. Hamel I improved upon with the cakra disc of my IPMM research. Such a disc is an example of further employing the Hamel effect. Still one must believe in outcome when one is testing one's theories with experiments like these. For science there is no other way and I subscribe to this.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
I used to read a lot on hamel generators. I thought it was not supposed to spin... it is not a mechanical generator. and I thought it was supposed to be made of metal (not wood) to create an electrical field. I guess I need to go back and read again.
MyAgentBryan 2 years ago
That is correct, Hamel made cones of metal and said the air between would be ionized with little black holes or something. Spinning was not his aim with this thing. I found this out later. Nevertheless i rest my case because any proof that it ever worked is absent. We only have Hamels word....
anandaadhar 2 years ago
wooh that's the best Hamel-replica I ever seen,, hmm impressive.. is the friction in you're model too big ?
InventorGadget 2 years ago
I think the concept is wrong.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
Ive read about this and thought about building it myself, Hamel reported a number of curios effects associated with the device but I dont think anyone has been able to reproduce them~
Plataea 2 years ago
Correct, Hamel was enthused about the effect of the ringmagnet spinning on another ringmagnet. The rest was idealism. And yes, the Hamel spinner is a useful drive insufficiently explored. My IPMM cakra disc is an improvement of the Hamel disc allowing for more fixation in a frame. This is what I am exploring now. This replication was just my respect for Hamels' insight in the rotation of magnets. Finsrud as yet I consider the best lead in harnessing magnetism though. See my watch?v=E9GucVwc36Q
anandaadhar 2 years ago
Why not limit the uppermost rotor sections ability to gimble a bit.
Build a restraint attached to all four pillars, by whatever means, (taught string?) attached to a thin plastic hoop or similar. It could still gimble about, but only in a certain range.
Then allow the topmost pickup maget, to do the same.
Just an idea, no idea if it will work.
spikeychops 2 years ago
I'm afraid it will not make much of a difference...
anandaadhar 2 years ago
Hamel had metal cones on his design...would this be important to the function?
Perhaps they create some kind of magnetic vortex, along the inside edge of the cone, that causes a gimble/swirling motion of the flux from the stator
why would it be in the design at all? He could just as easily used flat discs instead.
Why not try tin / copper cones, with a series of holes around to allow flux lines to enter and exit.
Good luck and very nice build effort.
spikey.
spikeychops 2 years ago
Hamel had a theory about mini black holes and ionizerd air in between the cones, but nobody saw actually his machine work.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
So Hamels work could all be fiction? Did he apply for a patent, and if so, was one granted (not likely).
Perhaps his 'mini black holes and ionised air, could in fact be his interpretation of ZPE?
spikey.
spikeychops 2 years ago
Yes, no patent, he was a make-believer in my opinion. His interpretations. Wishful thinking.....
anandaadhar 2 years ago
What a shame.
Oh well, back to the old drawing board eh?
Let me tell you this though anandaadhar, i really admire people such as yourself, who actually are trying to make progress through experimentaion, and don't just say 'No, this will never work, so don't even try'.
People like you are going to ultimately save our world, not the greedy people at the top of the heap!
Thank you for being one of the good guys.
And please carry on, you obviously have great construction skills.
spikeychops 2 years ago
Thank you for your support.
anandaadhar 2 years ago
The spinner requires 1 magnet missing from the circle or it wont spin.
However, this is not the most obvious point people miss. The device works perfectly if you fit it on a vehicle. Bolting it down on the planet surface doesn't work.
Another thing to keep in mind, most people never got it to work. Those who did quickly got bored with the debate. You can imagine.
gabydewilde 3 years ago
Gaby, the original Hamel design of this thing is not for spinning but for wobbling I found out later. He used a closed magnet ring setup here, not an open one, therefore this type. The window still demo proves that ringmagnets deliver spin. Anyhow, an open circle disturbs the balance in this set up. A fixed stator simply does not lead to spin. Hamel's flying saucer never flew, so the vehicle option is not working ether. Who was that who made it work Gaby? In ieder geval groetjes van René.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
I beleave you should mount all three stators on a single axle and re-adjust the outer rings for maximum push. then start adjusting the end magnet for rotation.the wobble is canceling out the repultion forces.
poweruser69 3 years ago
The point with Hamel is that fixing the stator delivers a dead machine.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
in de buitenste ring magneten,.... dus waar de rotor "in" draait,.....moet in cm aan ruimte open blijven,..met anderewoorden haal 1 m aan magneten weg,..dan moet het werken,..dus op elke verdieping 1 cm open maken,...succes
marsL001 3 years ago
De open ruimte methode was niet de oorspronkelijke opzet van Hamel voor de GMD. Niettemin heb ik dat geprobeerd natuurlijk. Ook voor de 'open gap' is het nodig dat de rotor mag weglopen van de stator. Dus dat geeft ook geen resultaat.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
Nice construction skills, but Hamel must of been self deluded, at least you seem to have one foot still planted in reality.
solarhope 3 years ago
was it supposed to work even theoretically?
serpentphoenix 3 years ago
Hamel claimed even that one of his models 'exploded'. Nobody saw it happen. but he really believed the thing would even fly! The theory never fully matured, Hamel mentioned something like ionized air in metal cups, which would challende the space energy. See the "David Hamel" docum. vids elsewhere on YouTube. Google for Sinclair - CONSTRUCTION OF THE GRAVITO MAGNETIC DEVICE (GMD) - a theoretical description.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
is it in repulsion or attraction mode?
serpentphoenix 3 years ago
On the window still it was attraction mode. In the machine I tried both, it also depends on the relative size of the ringmagnets used. It doesn't matter, spin is not maintained once fixed in a frame.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
well you may not do it correctly but i believe in everyting is possible but not impossible
abmz1970 3 years ago
don't give up already! maybe this concept don't work, but I'm sure that with the combination of magnets, gravity and speed of rotation, we can find something! Thanks for you video, you inspired me for a prototype I will make soon.
AdamInvention 3 years ago
if all these 3 wheels are not connected firmly with eachother there is no hope that it cud spin the rotor on the top . join them first so the force could b transferred properly.
nadeem5476 3 years ago
Please check the overunity forum for further instuctions on the construction, de spin or whobble and other URLs concerning replications.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
maybe you forgot the iron? a round it
so the magnetic ''lines'' are channneld/beamd?
sorry for my bad englisch
datron13 3 years ago
It is all stainless non-magnetic steel, so not a problem
anandaadhar 3 years ago
Very nice work. I was impressed by the effort you took, if it could work it would have with your setup. You took a good deal of time and effort. Very interesting to watch...and yes you could have faked success...Nice work.
dlinebar 3 years ago
Have you ever seen the hamel spinner. Maybe you should try and make the top part off of the design of the hamel spinner. It may be able to help get the spin a little bit easier in the beginning and keep it going.
shelbuddy420 3 years ago
Of course we studied existing relipcations. It is not spin but wobble one is after with this design. But the claim of a working one remains with Hamel himself. In fact it is a belief system so I found out. Maybe it ever will, but maybe also Hamel was just a good entertainer and motivator..... Possibly we have to walk our own path. As yet only Searl and Finsrud may enjoy the benefit of doubt with their claims of selfrunning. Searl was replicated, Finsrud not, but anybody may check him.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
the actuator magnet must be c shaped with all like poles facing inward and a gap of one magnet left open to make it work.
lukusr 3 years ago
Also the 'gap-gate'-model needs a rotor which is allowed to be running away from the stator. Fixing the rotor leads to a stall allways. Magnetism running for itself gives no energy, another basic force of nature like gravity must be involved to raise energy. Energy is there because of a difference not because of sameness. I tried to create a difference with timing the magnetic against itself, but that is of no avail. The only exception to this rule seems to be the 'electron centrifuge' of Searl.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
anandaahar, Have not read all comments but the frame could possibly made of wooden dowells and thus relieving any frame input. Eddy currents in frame could cause havoc. Interesting effort.
smajdk 3 years ago
The metal is all stainless non-magnetic steel, so dowels are not needed.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
I think this could produce more interesting results without using the words ZPE, "primordial field", "sacred geometry", and just concentrating in the facts seen and using normal scientific language
JUPitervivo 3 years ago
the reason why the magnet spinned
in the beggining of part 1
was the movement of your hand
therefore the energy came from your muscles
another way you may want to try is to conform
your magentic set up to the magnetic poles of the earth
that is put the whole set up sideways
instead of up and down
i don't know
i am just brainstorming
Energyium 3 years ago
We try everything to accomplish OU
anandaadhar 3 years ago
Can anyone say 'Shit disturber'?
Anyways, the 3CD is only the beginning. It gets even MORE fascinating beyond this. But I don't have time to educate little farts called Drevtoobe. In fact, no time for anyone. If you want answers. Don't bother looking, because none of you will probably understand. It's BEYOND you! LOL!
mattihorn 3 years ago
Stop the name calling please. I will delete if you go on like this. can you accept that I say, I have learned from this experience and that I am following my course with this lesson in mind? At present I continue my research in the direction of a gravito-magnetic sterling engine using a Bedini gate, for a space-energy piston, the gate that Bedini described concerning the Hamel spinner. The 3CD setup inspired me to this gate. So Hameltech does count, but maybe not entirely the way it expected to.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
Another thing I learned from the 3CD is not to be focussed so much on obtaining a spin from the magnets, but more on the wobble created by the magnetic ring gate that is pressured from above. I try now to harness that effect in a classical type of Sterling motor. For further details please see what I said in the discussion at the overunity. com forum about the gravity magnetic motor. I will, upon success, eventually start a new thread there about it named 'Vishnu-yantra GMS ethermachine'.
anandaadhar 3 years ago
Go ahead, you'll have a nice clean 'comment' section. Oh btw, it's wasn't me making this section dirty either. Look to the other guy.
mattihorn 3 years ago
It's amazing how egotistical people can get when they come on here with no experience in this particular field of science and start dictating 'terms' to everyone. Children? The only one being childish here bud, is you!
I have over 5 years working in these physics. I knew David Hamel personally. I have alot of background knowledge surrounding this science. And what do you have? EGO. Or a debunkist attitude? Fuck, people like you are a dime a dozen!
mattihorn 3 years ago
Let's not quarrel about this, some are believers, some are sceptics. I respect both, because they are two sides of the same scientific coin. My preliminary conclusion: we have not arrived at OU with the 3CD setup. So our research is inconclusive, with my setup it doesn't work, another may very well do. Okay?
anandaadhar 3 years ago
Sorry Anandaadar, it's this person Drevtoobe I am not respecting too much. He's quite immature. You keep going on your work and I hope you learn some stuff doing it.
mattihorn 3 years ago
Okay, the timeout beeper has sounded.
To quote our friend Mattihorn, "Yes. I have an engineering degree. I also study astrophysics and nature in general."
Based on his inability to answer a few questions with any "engineering street cred", I will state that he was bluffing, he just blurted out that he was an engineer in the heat of the moment. The shame!
Mattihorn, you have been qualified! Why you did that is beyond me.
There are no micro black holes in any spinning top arrangement...
Drevtoobe