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From: ioancasian
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  • Thank you.

  • Elder is in harmony with humbleness -with God. As a monk he calls his hierarchs the elect or chosen ones as is right -a sign of his respect for the high postion of hierarchs by the Literal Grace given to them -he does not blame them for all the lowly states of church but the parishoners. Parishoners make the hero or king but the king can lead many to destruction if they follow. Use the term "love" too often & it is cold & meaningless. Wonderful insights -learned a lot! Thank you & God bless you!

  • hmmm so wird specially because the bible says. "If it were possible"

  • @gnawaserge

    elaborate a little bit!

  • @ioancasian

    seems "if it were possible" has a sense it is "impossible" to deceive the elect. But Elder states "would" or "will" decieve the elect. Elder refers to Revelation and hierarchs. Some saints were in deception but saved later.

    Mt 24:22 Mark 13:20 unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

    Mat 24:24 / Mark 13:22

    ".. great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect"

  • @gnawaserge

    context 9:31 "and would deceieve from among the chosen ones" is with reference specifically to the hierachs who are "chosen" by other hierarchs to be hierachs/apostles/Grace-filled­. There are bad hierarchs, bad councils...The chosen ones are not perfect - only One is Perfect and cannot be decieved ever -at any time and resist all deceptions indefinetly. Mat 24:22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

  • The interviewer is obviously leading the elder to say what he wants to hear.

  • @Tvrfcc

    and obviously, the Elder is lacking discernment and just fell for it...

  • interesting...thanks!

  • Thank you.

  • This elder raises his hands when he's talking! He's living iconography!

  • very deep

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