The devils greatest trick for the simple minded is to make them believe he doesnt exist. To the others, make sure they know he exists and tempts them with power. Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven. You either serve God Almighty, or by the permition of God Almighty, you are under the authority of satan. Your soul is important. Dont be foolish and reject perfect love and grace. Jesus Christ is irresistible and WILL change your life if you seek Him.
Wow! Praise God, this man is saved! Jesus, Your love can pierce the hardest of hearts and is greater than any sin. I love you Lord, but I also have sinned and disobeyed You, I need Your grace daily, Abba. You are the Fair Judge! I can't wait to see you in heaven with our Savior, David!
You know i also find it funny how HOSTILE all the anti-christians are. They claim to not need God to teach them morality...and they prove this by attacking strangers on the internet. LOL!
All these people in here talking about "We shouldn't forgive these monsters for what they did". I really, really HOPE you are not the same people who tell black people they need to "get over" the whole slavery thing. I really really hope you are not the same people who tell women they need to "get over" the whole oppression thing.
Those of you who are unable to forgive, better not ever open your mouths and ask for forgiveness for your crimes/sins...
This is powerful. I'm so happy for Mr. Berkowitz. If God can change a twisted person like that, what can't God do? And I believe him, why would this guy lie about his conversion? He was sentenced to like 365 yrs in prison, they tried to parole him and he rejected his own parole! TWICE! I believe this man is genuinely sorry for his crimes and is a true believer. If God can forgive this man and some of the victims families can forgive this man, then I can forgive him too!
@WildNice@NKA23 God created everything and he can lift everything and do anything.He's GOD.
"IF's" are for phony Atheist/Christians. Your saying "IF" that means you ain't sure of the truth, so i won't be listening to YOU. I wouldn't believe you either way but if your not even SURE about then nonsense you're spewing, then I can't do anything but feel bad for you.
God is real. God has worked a miracle in this man and I'm proud of him. God Bless :)
@NKA23 God created everything and he can lift everything and do anything.He's GOD.
"IF's" are for phony Atheist/Christians. Your saying "IF" that means you ain't sure of the truth, so i won't be listening to YOU. I wouldn't believe you either way but if your not even SURE about then nonsense you're spewing, then I can't do anything but feel bad for you.
God is real. God has worked a miracle in this man and I'm proud of him. God Bless :)
@NKA23 That's what I did. I asked both God and the Devil. Who wants me? Claim me. I know I have a talent that would be useful to either entity. So i flat out told the spirits, that I'd be a powerful soldier in either army...now where do I belong? I feel sick right after and fell asleep, by the time my illness broke I had my answer. (Team Jesus all the way! WHEW!!)
Now I'm not saying do it exactly as I did it. Nor will your answer come to you the way mines did, but you will get your answer. GL
@NKA23 I understood you perfectly, i just thought the question was to ridiculous to take seriously. He can create a stone that he can't lift, but if he can't lift then he's not almighty.
My God is not a material being but a spirit. Spirit=Energy and energy needs material vehicles to effect material world. God wouldn't move a rock, he'd get you to move it for him! That's what my God does, I don't know about the God you don't want to believe in. :)
Eris is the GODESS, she´s the only GODESS and she´s YOUR GODESS...unfortunately she shows a tendency towards irratic behavior, no really, she´s sort of a loony...but she got cute dimples and freckles...sort of.
@NKA23 BTW, Agnostic? Good for you. At least you have somewhat of an open mind. You are probably just searching for answers and that's fine, I was the same way not to long ago.
But you know, this whole religion thing really isn't as complicated as they make it seem. Just ask God, the devil, whatever entities you THINK might exist/believe exist, whatever questions you have to ask them. They will answer you, if you ask honest questions and are serious about it.
What a bunch of BS, The man is a monster. Quit shining a light on him. Sheep...Senseless Sheep. Seriously? Religion is bad when it begins to promote Monsters such as this.
Darwin's theory of evolution is centered around species evolving into other species. Mutation & Creationism are not contradictory, or mutually exclusive to one another. Birth defects, diseases, HIV-AIDS (blood), & cancer radiation treatments are examples of non-evolutionary mutations taking place. Even those with red hair have a "mutated MC1R gene" which certainly doesn't prove Darwinism. Raising leaner livestock (phenotype) is another example of mutation
"If Adam & Eve did not have all three blood type alleles, there must have been a mutation creating the O allele while the human race was still very small & before humans dispersed across the globe. Whether the origin of blood type O was in Adam & Eve at Creation or whether it arose as a mutational event that took place shortly before or after the Flood, it strongly supports that all humans today are descendants of two individuals or a small group of people that eventually populated the globe."
@BettorOffSingle you are an idiot. Science does not prove anything it only disproves theories and finds statistics that are consistent or inconsistent with the hypothesis of the given experiment. While I do agree with you, I have to say you just made an ass out of yourself.
@BettorOffSingle Does your "verson of it" (God is apparently an "it" to you) lead you to call those folks with an opposing point of view "IDIOTS?" Not sure which God you believe in but if it is the God of Israel then it would stand to reason you should believe his word and his word tells us that the world is less than 10k years old. Carbon dating is faulty and this has been proven (don't take my word for it, research)Your trying to make God harmonize with secular science and it won't happen.
@stephyheart Save your mercy for the twenty-four people he shot. I'm sick of bullies who think their emotional epiphany undoes the harm they inflict. You guys BULLY weak-minded people like any CULT.
"Psychological self-suggestion?" No, you misunderstand the nature of God. God is supernatural, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent. Test it and you will see. If you simply attempt my scientific experiment, He will make you born again. Then, and only then, will you understand.
Oh, just to directly address the power of "psychological self-suggestion," spend two weeks praying to Richard Dawkins. Then try the One Living God Christ. It will be abundantly clear who answers prayers.
Sorry I am an atheist, therefore I have to find another basis for morality and responsibility than god. For me this man will never be innocent, regardless what you say based on religious grounds. May you stay in good health and wealth until the end of thy days.
What most people don't understand is that people whom have been born again have been where most atheists are. There is a false assumption that God's people were born, bred, raised, and indoctrinated into the church. This is ignorant and false. I was once an unbeliever.
Now, in consideration of that, I pose a challenge to you, a simple scientific examination (atheists believe in science, right?) of the power of God for someone who doesn't believe.
Here is my challenge: Every morning for the next two weeks quietly ask God to reveal Himself to you. Be as sincere in your request as you can be. We all want the Truth, right? I know atheists hold rationality and logic very highly. Use the steps to the scientific method, if it makes you feel less silly. If you dare to accept my challenge, and keep your eyes peeled to see Him working in your life, you will know what we know. God reveals Himself to those who ask.
Excuse me, that sounds like psychological self-suggestion, but then as you said, we must not judge each other, with which I wholly agree. Therefore just as many "new born" christians were fairly similar to run of the mill atheists, so did some atheist typical ,run of the mill christians. I could ask you the same to do. Just imagine that there is no god for long enough and imply all the consequences of it, no matter how frightening. I am not the usual atheist, mind you.
I have to loose my freedom from an allknowing, allpowerful despot, that is a lot if you ask me. Because I do not find the "gifts" of living forever under controll appealing so much as you, therefore I have no interest in believing i it even if it were true. And then only because I would rather die, than be a slave.
Ohh, and excuse me, but its not logical to ask something to reveal itself about which you do not believe it exists in the first place. I actually believe (sic) that you have to first believe such nonsense to be psychologically disposed to do the fantastically unlogical thing you ask me to do.
I too was released from the hell of Occultism. I wasn't as extreme as Berkowitz, but any kind of Occultism always brings about destruction. I dabbled in New Age, Astrology, and Numerology. Things that most people consider harmless. But to the contrary, it is very dangerous, because it is from a dark force, and it will bring about dark encounters. God sent Johanna Michelson into my life to lead me out of it, and I thank GOD!!! I hope David is genuine, because God can set anyone free!
i have hered this befor and seen people saying this to, i believe it, i believe that people open there self up to this stuff, if you dont mind can you explain what happend, did you encounter demonic forces,
i am intrested, if you want you could send me a private message, but if ya dont want to no big deal
Yes, I would have demonic nightmares. and I would have these senses that something was in the room. a lot of other stuff. I don't want to glorify this, I just want to make people aware. That even reading your horoscope is dangerous. That was a looooong time ago. And you always have to be careful not to invite that stuff back, because it can be so subtle.
no, i dont want you to glorify it by all means, i just wanted to know, i have hered of people who have dabled in this who have come to meet what they called spirite medium guids, basicaly they meet demons, and there journey always led to grave danger after they got comfortable with there guid, etc, but thx be to god who can save
@Ajntb2Sli same here. I dabbled in occultism. I have friends who practice witchcraft and voodoo and have always been curious about such things. I was so confused for a long time, I've always known there was a God but there's so many different "Religions". So I asked God to tell me where I belong religiously and he DID. He sent me the message loud and clear. He had to because I was hard headed and I just didn't "get" the whole Christianity thing. But I do now!
wow, spooky... what is most creepy that he shows remorse for "making a pact with the devil" but refers to the killings as doing "bad things" like copying homework or something... sick dude.....
I am so happy for people who are brought out of darkness. It's too bad so many commenting on here are so totally clueless of what they are missing by thinking all people with a testimony are liars or that God is nothing but a myth. I guess when the fires of hell are consuming them, then they'll change their minds!
I just don't understand how any "God" could allow this animal to kill those 6 innocent people in the first place. Where is their "salvation" - where was their God?
Son of Sam is only faking this religeous stuff becuase he has nothing else...it's a parole scam I think.
I, also, have been saved by Jesus Christ from the occult.. having done horrible things - and my life has been totally different since 1975. Yes... I SAW Jesus Christ and I KNOW that He is Messiah... and I did NOT believe in Him or even know of Him (I thought that His Name was a curse word!) before this event. He met me on my way to kill myself and I called out to Him and have never been the same. I rejoice in David's testimony! God can save ANYONE!
This is rediculous.For any religion to condone the phrase "The devil made me do it" is just plain wrong.The devil if there is such a thing didnt make berkowitz kill,his being a sociopath made him kill.This show is basically saying it was alright for him to commit thes atrocities because he had to do it in order for god to save him and teach others gods love.Where was this so called gods love for the people he murdered?
I would encourage to watch all four sements of the "Forgiven for Life" program. We are NOT saying it was right for Berkowitz to murder victims. The being David was serving at the time was not the God that she serves today--Jesus Christ. The being David served in 1976-77 was Satan who seeks to steal, kill & destroy.
David takes fully responsibility for the murders and doesn't blame Satan.
"your religion will become a good joke like the greek gods."
Yeah that's why Christianity has been around for what 2000+ years and is still going strong. The more the world tries to stamp Christianity out the more it flourishes.
I am happy to discuss this matter with you answering all questions.
Yes, I do know & believe that Christ is the Messiah. Evidence from even non-Christian historical sources points to this verdict.
But you didn't answer my question about Christianity difference (knowing & believing). Please do.
Further, I could say "Do you believe that the wind exist; do you believe in oxygen; or how about gravity?" You both know & believe in these things by faith based on evidence.
Also to say if you make a pact with satan you will commit murder,I must remind the poster of this video that a pastor a few years ago murdered 2 receptionists and an abortion doctor in the name of god not satan.During and after his trial he showed no remorse because according to him god told him to commit these murders.And most of his congegation agrred
I'm not sure of the connection you are trying to make. We are condoning any type of murder whatsoever. The true God the Bible does not tell people to "murder" other people.
Killing in war is a different matter. It is the difference in murder & killing. For example, self defense is killing but it is not murder.
@InertiaFilms Yeah your little CULT belief is as bad as Berkowitz's. He makes a mockery of your Bible and shows its every last flaw. You THREATEN people with "hell" if they don't fall in line; you're the one who will rot there, phony.
@InertiaFilms Yeah, "answering all questions" until the ones you can NOT answer, then it's "you're negative, I need to block you."
You're the one caught up in the CULT OF BERKOWITZ now. You're as blind to your own sickness as Berkowitz is/was to his, and the problem is you are spreading it to others.
Christianity isn't morality, it's just a crutch. If he were a deist or an atheist, he'd have to do a hell of a lot more than "accept Jesus" to feel redeemed, I'll tell you that.
If i understand you correctly, your sense of right/wrong, good/bad comes from "instinct and necessary social norms to enable public safety & well being."
However, that answer raises many, many questions. Who decides social norms (in India they worship cows, in US we eat them). Who decides what is well-being ? (Gov't, family, city/major)?
"Murder is the unlawful killing of a human person with malice aforethought." that is right from the dictionary so inertia to your statement of "deaths in war are not "murder" that is false as there is "techniquelly" no lawful killing of a person in "gods eyes" and as for you mentioning people who killed lots of innocent people...-continued-
look at the christians during the crusade when they slaughtered thousands upon thousands of innocent muslim women,children and even the elderly because they werent christian PS: I am pagan and think christ was 100% BS peace!
Christians killed Muslims during crusades? Never heard that one before. Even if it were true, I think perhaps you refer to the Roman Catholic "church" which is not a part of orthodox Christianity.
As a pagan i can only assume you do not believe in moral absolutes. So, in your worldview, murder is neither "right" nor "wrong."
christianity is all the same both orthodox,catholic,methodist,luthern,baptist and all the others all believe that jesus was the "savior/messiah" and that there is the one "true" god so dont pull that different religion junk with me christianity is still christianity
As an admitted "pagan' you cannot say you believe or understand the working of Christianity.
Ex: Catholicism is not compatable w/Christianity. The catholic religion has lots of un-Christian tenents, Mary, pray to saints, Pope as victor of Christ, prayer for dead, infalliability of Pope, pregatory, salavation = good works. Not Christianity.
As a pagan you do not believe in moral absolutes. So, you cannot say you are "right" & I am "wrong".
"ou cannot say you believe or understand the working of Christianity" its called reading you see christianity is very simple at the base bones you believe christ was the savior yes? you believe he was the son of your one and only god yes? well sounds very simple even for a person like you but do tell me if you want me to explain your own religion to you a little bit more FYI I was born a baptist and chose my own path and religion so dont think I dont understand
I accept your challenge: please explain to me the different in "believing" Christ is the Messiah; and "knowing" that Christ is the Messiah using contrasting Biblical references to explain who is and is not a Christian.
Well did you see christ? Do you KNOW he was the messiah if not all you can do is cling onto belief. Morally killing even "lawfully in war" is still horrible and isnt a victory "a real general ends the war with no casulties"
If I may quote your/webster's definition of murder..."the UNLAWFUL killing of a human being.." UNLAWFUL. When nations go to war, their armies are sanctioned by the gov't to wage violence and killing if necessary. So killing in war is LAWFUL. Not the same as murder.
No lawful killing in God's eyes??? Have you read the Bible's OT? There were many, many offenses declared by God to be punishable by death.
unlawful has multiple definitions one can be looked as is a inmoral action that is considered "wrong" another can be through the eyes of the law you did not specify which "unlawful" you meant in your post and FYI you assume alot when you see someone of another religion so am I to assume your like charles manson a fanatic who loves to lure people into believing your who your not...dont assume ask you will be better off.
Yes, the Bible chronicles the good & the bad. That's doesn't mean the Bible approves of murder as you imply, quite the opposite. (and, deaths in war are not "murder").
Hitler was an atheist molded by atheistic thinkers (Nietzsche & Hegel). This is not really debatable. It is true.
Stalin's atheistic legacy continues to this day in Godless Russia. He killed 50 M people.
This has everything to do with atheism. To think otherwise is ignoring the truth.
Since you say there is no Satan, then I can only assume & reason that you have no moral problem with the murders committed by David in the "Son of Sam" killings.
If you believe there is no Satan, do you also beleive there is no God?
Exactly: It`s very very unlikely that a god exists. Why should that imply that I have no problem with murder ? Ever heard of suicide bombers ? Why is it so easy for them ? Because they believe in a reward by god. Peace !!
Because if you don't believe in God, then there is moral Lawgiver. Therefore, each person is free to do whatever they personally feel is "right." So, in your worldview with no God there can be no "right" or "wrong", good or evil.
So, Berkowitz did what he felt was personally "right" & you can't say his view is wrong, or right, or that Hitler's was wrong, or that crime is "bad."
My worldview consists of moral absolutes as told by God.
It suffises to have a look at the word of god( the bible) to be absolutely convinced that morality does not come from god.Morality`started when men thinkered what was best for the survival of the family, the clan, the tribe,the country,the world.
Assuming that godless people are immoral is putting all Boudhists in prison.
Yes, i have heard this clan, tribe, country morality reasoning before from other atheists. In your worldview Hitler was justified in what He did. Hitler was protecting his "tribe", "clan", for the survival of the German country.
Hitler, Stalin and their influencers like Nietzsche & Hegel were atheists! These Godless worldviews = 70M murders. Auschwitz. Treblinka. Stalin's atheist Russia killed 50 million.
That's immoral because God's pre-existing Word says: "Thou shall not murder."
Thou shalt not murder:At the last count 2.000.000 murders or killings are reported in the bible. Stalin was a seminarist. Hitler killed every opponent imaginary or real. This has nothing to to with atheism. Peace !!
By the way, it is David Berkowitz himself who declares he was possessed by the devil. And he aught to know, because he worshipped the devil and felt the evil powers rob him of his mind. Since he repented to Jesus, the things he did as "son of sam" make him sick. It sure was real enough to him, and he's the one who lived it.
people who are hostile to Christianity say things that don't make a bit of sense. What is there about "forgiveness" that "turns people off" to Christianity? Isn't forgiveness of sin and peace forever in heaven something that would actually "turn people on"?
All serial killers do not become Bible believers. Just the ones who cry for mercy and forgiveness from our Redeemer, Jesus Christ, Who took the death penalty for them. Our sins make us all deserving of Hell. Why do some people get mad when a particularly evil sinner finds the Light of redemption and lives in the joy of forgiveness? Why not talk to Jesus yourself, and learn how true and real forgiveness is?
I dont care what you believe, but dont act like you're all high and mighty. You're no better than anyone else who steps foot on this earth. Your babble about forgiveness only turns people of to your religion.
TKO. Would it surprise you to know that Berkowitz is also pro-death penalty? I am too.
It is probably no surprise to you that your state, NY, doesn't have a death penalty--and didn't in 1977. So, I suggest you blame the political party in NY that prevents the death penalty from happening.
In the meantime, you have an amazing, modern day Apostle Paul conversion in Berkowitz' life. His life doesn't negate or justify the past, but gives hope to the future for all that need forgiveness.
Were dinosaur bones placed on earth by the devil? lol. If you want to have faith then go for it, but dont act like you're all high and mighty. When push comes to shove.. your religion will become a good joke like the greek gods.
This entire series is irresponsibles journalism used to promote Christianity. David Berkowitz did not kill people because he was possessed by the devil; the devil is just a fictional character and no serious investigator would accept that as a motive.
Berkowitz is not blaming the devil for his actions. He takes full responsiblity for the murders. He is simply explaining the factors involved that lead to his life of crime.
Since you imply that Berkowitz's actions were wrong/bad/evil/hurtful, yet don't believe in the devil/satan/lucifer, then why were his actions "wrong"?
You seem to be implying that belief in the devil is a prerequisite to understanding the difference between right and wrong. How Christian-centric of you.
Berkowitz has always been a manipulating liar, and he always will be, regardless of his claim to salvation.
I call upon all christians to go to Sullivan correctional facility and pray with son of hope David Berkowitz for he's been touched by the Lord of mercy Jesus Christ and he's been purified and baptised in the fire of his penance.Only a sincerely penitent sinner can be touched and forgiven by Jesus and i can see the pure joy of a man who's been touched by God in David's eyes.Praise the Lord.Witness the power of forgiveness.
ok they said that he was adopted and lived in new-york ive noticed the photos of him being arrested he strongly resembles Andrew Dice Clay maybe they are related and i do mean that genetically I know that were all children of God but thats NOT what i mean
The devils greatest trick for the simple minded is to make them believe he doesnt exist. To the others, make sure they know he exists and tempts them with power. Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven. You either serve God Almighty, or by the permition of God Almighty, you are under the authority of satan. Your soul is important. Dont be foolish and reject perfect love and grace. Jesus Christ is irresistible and WILL change your life if you seek Him.
galaxydreams2 2 weeks ago
Wow! Praise God, this man is saved! Jesus, Your love can pierce the hardest of hearts and is greater than any sin. I love you Lord, but I also have sinned and disobeyed You, I need Your grace daily, Abba. You are the Fair Judge! I can't wait to see you in heaven with our Savior, David!
TheWoohooBoohoo 5 months ago
OMG! He's mentally ill!!! Forget the devil.
savner1000 6 months ago
Perhaps people who did horrible things can feel remorse, but a serial killer? Come on people. You can never forgive a killer.
ERMO95 10 months ago
Stacy was a WHoorree!...Son of Death..No hope. Once they get blood in there mouth there are never the same..No repograming..None.
BarryPuppetSoetoro61 11 months ago
If you want people to buy into this "God" you have created, you may want to get a better spokesperson than The Son of Sam!
maureen1002 1 year ago
There's nothing in the Satanic Bible that is about worshipping Satan and going around shooting people for no reason...
FuckTheWorld623 1 year ago
You know i also find it funny how HOSTILE all the anti-christians are. They claim to not need God to teach them morality...and they prove this by attacking strangers on the internet. LOL!
Godlessness FAIL :)
WildNice 1 year ago
All these people in here talking about "We shouldn't forgive these monsters for what they did". I really, really HOPE you are not the same people who tell black people they need to "get over" the whole slavery thing. I really really hope you are not the same people who tell women they need to "get over" the whole oppression thing.
Those of you who are unable to forgive, better not ever open your mouths and ask for forgiveness for your crimes/sins...
WildNice 1 year ago
@WildNice Good point!
vdelrio999 3 weeks ago
This is powerful. I'm so happy for Mr. Berkowitz. If God can change a twisted person like that, what can't God do? And I believe him, why would this guy lie about his conversion? He was sentenced to like 365 yrs in prison, they tried to parole him and he rejected his own parole! TWICE! I believe this man is genuinely sorry for his crimes and is a true believer. If God can forgive this man and some of the victims families can forgive this man, then I can forgive him too!
WildNice 1 year ago
What GOD can´t do?
Can God create a stone that he can not lift?
If he IS almighty, he can...but if he can...he´s not almighty.
(Think about that for a while, you creationist pricks...)
NKA23 1 year ago
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WildNice 1 year ago
@NKA23 There are only two kinds of people in this world "Those who believe" and "Those who don't want to believe".
I bet if you'd caught Mr. Berkowitz on one of his bad days you would have been praying to God, Jesus, and the Almighty in heartbeat. LOL!
(You go ahead and think about THAT for a while, You FRAUD!)
WildNice 1 year ago
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@WildNice @NKA23 God created everything and he can lift everything and do anything.He's GOD.
"IF's" are for phony Atheist/Christians. Your saying "IF" that means you ain't sure of the truth, so i won't be listening to YOU. I wouldn't believe you either way but if your not even SURE about then nonsense you're spewing, then I can't do anything but feel bad for you.
God is real. God has worked a miracle in this man and I'm proud of him. God Bless :)
WildNice 1 year ago
@NKA23 God created everything and he can lift everything and do anything.He's GOD.
"IF's" are for phony Atheist/Christians. Your saying "IF" that means you ain't sure of the truth, so i won't be listening to YOU. I wouldn't believe you either way but if your not even SURE about then nonsense you're spewing, then I can't do anything but feel bad for you.
God is real. God has worked a miracle in this man and I'm proud of him. God Bless :)
WildNice 1 year ago
I'm an Agnostic, so don't call me Atheist please.
Okay, you did not understand me...so I'm gonna say it once more...please read it SLOWLY.
If God is really almighty, then he is able to create a stone, that he can't lift, right?
He's almighty...
But if he can't lift that stone, he's not almighty....
If he can't make a stone that he can't lift, he's not almighty as well.
I'm not saying that God does not exist...but I doubt that he is almighty.
NKA23 1 year ago
Because the thought of almightiness positively leads to this paradox.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 That's what I did. I asked both God and the Devil. Who wants me? Claim me. I know I have a talent that would be useful to either entity. So i flat out told the spirits, that I'd be a powerful soldier in either army...now where do I belong? I feel sick right after and fell asleep, by the time my illness broke I had my answer. (Team Jesus all the way! WHEW!!)
Now I'm not saying do it exactly as I did it. Nor will your answer come to you the way mines did, but you will get your answer. GL
WildNice 1 year ago
@NKA23 I understood you perfectly, i just thought the question was to ridiculous to take seriously. He can create a stone that he can't lift, but if he can't lift then he's not almighty.
My God is not a material being but a spirit. Spirit=Energy and energy needs material vehicles to effect material world. God wouldn't move a rock, he'd get you to move it for him! That's what my God does, I don't know about the God you don't want to believe in. :)
WildNice 1 year ago
Well, anyway HE is a SHE and her name is Eris...
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 uh huh
She sounds nice : )
WildNice 1 year ago
Eris is the GODESS, she´s the only GODESS and she´s YOUR GODESS...unfortunately she shows a tendency towards irratic behavior, no really, she´s sort of a loony...but she got cute dimples and freckles...sort of.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 Hmmm, that's one of those witchy things >.> yeah, your going to find people mostly trying to avoid that on this thread. :)
WildNice 1 year ago
@NKA23 BTW, Agnostic? Good for you. At least you have somewhat of an open mind. You are probably just searching for answers and that's fine, I was the same way not to long ago.
But you know, this whole religion thing really isn't as complicated as they make it seem. Just ask God, the devil, whatever entities you THINK might exist/believe exist, whatever questions you have to ask them. They will answer you, if you ask honest questions and are serious about it.
WildNice 1 year ago
If you talk to GOD, you are praying.
If GOD talks to you, you´re schizophrenic.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 If a schizophrenic simply means someone who can see/here things that other people can't then I'm guilty as charged. :)
WildNice 1 year ago
What a bunch of BS, The man is a monster. Quit shining a light on him. Sheep...Senseless Sheep. Seriously? Religion is bad when it begins to promote Monsters such as this.
ThatHarveyGuy 1 year ago
Yeah...Ted Bundy was pretty convincing too.
writingtheblackhorse 1 year ago
Darwin's theory of evolution is centered around species evolving into other species. Mutation & Creationism are not contradictory, or mutually exclusive to one another. Birth defects, diseases, HIV-AIDS (blood), & cancer radiation treatments are examples of non-evolutionary mutations taking place. Even those with red hair have a "mutated MC1R gene" which certainly doesn't prove Darwinism. Raising leaner livestock (phenotype) is another example of mutation
that has 0 to do with Darwinism.
InertiaFilms 1 year ago
Hey IDIOTS:
1. How do you get EIGHT BLOOD TYPES from TWO people? (Adam and Eve).
2. Why should we believe the world is 10k years old when carbon-dating and 50,000 other techniques prove otherwise?
That said, I do believe in God, just not your version of it. All creations have creators.
BettorOffSingle 1 year ago
"If Adam & Eve did not have all three blood type alleles, there must have been a mutation creating the O allele while the human race was still very small & before humans dispersed across the globe. Whether the origin of blood type O was in Adam & Eve at Creation or whether it arose as a mutational event that took place shortly before or after the Flood, it strongly supports that all humans today are descendants of two individuals or a small group of people that eventually populated the globe."
InertiaFilms 1 year ago
@BettorOffSingle you are an idiot. Science does not prove anything it only disproves theories and finds statistics that are consistent or inconsistent with the hypothesis of the given experiment. While I do agree with you, I have to say you just made an ass out of yourself.
irtimmy12 8 months ago
@BettorOffSingle Does your "verson of it" (God is apparently an "it" to you) lead you to call those folks with an opposing point of view "IDIOTS?" Not sure which God you believe in but if it is the God of Israel then it would stand to reason you should believe his word and his word tells us that the world is less than 10k years old. Carbon dating is faulty and this has been proven (don't take my word for it, research)Your trying to make God harmonize with secular science and it won't happen.
sixthday132 6 months ago
@sixthday132 So you attack science while defending a serial killer.
I'll stick with my beliefs, thanks.
BettorOffSingle 6 months ago
another adoptee gone crazy, what a surprise
Sammicsno 2 years ago
well i believe him.
god can do great things and is mercifull
stephyheart 2 years ago 9
Correct!!! BEHOLD THE GLORY OF GOD!!!!
warriorspikes51 2 years ago 6
Indeed, if Christ is able to forgive you then He is able to forgive mr berkowitz. May God get the glory.
FillTheirVoid 2 years ago
@stephyheart Save your mercy for the twenty-four people he shot. I'm sick of bullies who think their emotional epiphany undoes the harm they inflict. You guys BULLY weak-minded people like any CULT.
BettorOffSingle 1 year ago
"Psychological self-suggestion?" No, you misunderstand the nature of God. God is supernatural, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent. Test it and you will see. If you simply attempt my scientific experiment, He will make you born again. Then, and only then, will you understand.
HolySpiritFillme 2 years ago
Oh, just to directly address the power of "psychological self-suggestion," spend two weeks praying to Richard Dawkins. Then try the One Living God Christ. It will be abundantly clear who answers prayers.
HolySpiritFillme 2 years ago 2
@HolySpiritFillme LOL! Brilliant and very true! I will say the same thing to any luciferians/atheist i might come in contact with.
WildNice 1 year ago
Nice try, he actually just gives his guilt away to satan or whatever...what a joke this series is.
eydos 2 years ago
No, actually, God's grace and mercy really are that amazing. No sin is too big for Jesus' blood to wash away.
HolySpiritFillme 2 years ago
Sorry I am an atheist, therefore I have to find another basis for morality and responsibility than god. For me this man will never be innocent, regardless what you say based on religious grounds. May you stay in good health and wealth until the end of thy days.
eydos 2 years ago
What most people don't understand is that people whom have been born again have been where most atheists are. There is a false assumption that God's people were born, bred, raised, and indoctrinated into the church. This is ignorant and false. I was once an unbeliever.
Now, in consideration of that, I pose a challenge to you, a simple scientific examination (atheists believe in science, right?) of the power of God for someone who doesn't believe.
HolySpiritFillme 2 years ago
Here is my challenge: Every morning for the next two weeks quietly ask God to reveal Himself to you. Be as sincere in your request as you can be. We all want the Truth, right? I know atheists hold rationality and logic very highly. Use the steps to the scientific method, if it makes you feel less silly. If you dare to accept my challenge, and keep your eyes peeled to see Him working in your life, you will know what we know. God reveals Himself to those who ask.
What have you got to lose?
HolySpiritFillme 2 years ago
Excuse me, that sounds like psychological self-suggestion, but then as you said, we must not judge each other, with which I wholly agree. Therefore just as many "new born" christians were fairly similar to run of the mill atheists, so did some atheist typical ,run of the mill christians. I could ask you the same to do. Just imagine that there is no god for long enough and imply all the consequences of it, no matter how frightening. I am not the usual atheist, mind you.
eydos 2 years ago
I have to loose my freedom from an allknowing, allpowerful despot, that is a lot if you ask me. Because I do not find the "gifts" of living forever under controll appealing so much as you, therefore I have no interest in believing i it even if it were true. And then only because I would rather die, than be a slave.
eydos 2 years ago
Ohh, and excuse me, but its not logical to ask something to reveal itself about which you do not believe it exists in the first place. I actually believe (sic) that you have to first believe such nonsense to be psychologically disposed to do the fantastically unlogical thing you ask me to do.
eydos 2 years ago
God Bless you good friend who knows the way
warriorspikes51 2 years ago
I too was released from the hell of Occultism. I wasn't as extreme as Berkowitz, but any kind of Occultism always brings about destruction. I dabbled in New Age, Astrology, and Numerology. Things that most people consider harmless. But to the contrary, it is very dangerous, because it is from a dark force, and it will bring about dark encounters. God sent Johanna Michelson into my life to lead me out of it, and I thank GOD!!! I hope David is genuine, because God can set anyone free!
Ajntb2Sli 2 years ago
i have hered this befor and seen people saying this to, i believe it, i believe that people open there self up to this stuff, if you dont mind can you explain what happend, did you encounter demonic forces,
i am intrested, if you want you could send me a private message, but if ya dont want to no big deal
greatestgiftis 2 years ago
Yes, I would have demonic nightmares. and I would have these senses that something was in the room. a lot of other stuff. I don't want to glorify this, I just want to make people aware. That even reading your horoscope is dangerous. That was a looooong time ago. And you always have to be careful not to invite that stuff back, because it can be so subtle.
Ajntb2Sli 2 years ago
no, i dont want you to glorify it by all means, i just wanted to know, i have hered of people who have dabled in this who have come to meet what they called spirite medium guids, basicaly they meet demons, and there journey always led to grave danger after they got comfortable with there guid, etc, but thx be to god who can save
greatestgiftis 2 years ago
@Ajntb2Sli same here. I dabbled in occultism. I have friends who practice witchcraft and voodoo and have always been curious about such things. I was so confused for a long time, I've always known there was a God but there's so many different "Religions". So I asked God to tell me where I belong religiously and he DID. He sent me the message loud and clear. He had to because I was hard headed and I just didn't "get" the whole Christianity thing. But I do now!
WildNice 1 year ago
wow, spooky... what is most creepy that he shows remorse for "making a pact with the devil" but refers to the killings as doing "bad things" like copying homework or something... sick dude.....
cmelbouzaidi 2 years ago
I am so happy for people who are brought out of darkness. It's too bad so many commenting on here are so totally clueless of what they are missing by thinking all people with a testimony are liars or that God is nothing but a myth. I guess when the fires of hell are consuming them, then they'll change their minds!
noelpeace 2 years ago
I just don't understand how any "God" could allow this animal to kill those 6 innocent people in the first place. Where is their "salvation" - where was their God?
Son of Sam is only faking this religeous stuff becuase he has nothing else...it's a parole scam I think.
kingsod 2 years ago
I think he's serious. He's been offered parole, but he's said no, so he's gotta be serious.
Presidentjh 2 years ago
I, also, have been saved by Jesus Christ from the occult.. having done horrible things - and my life has been totally different since 1975. Yes... I SAW Jesus Christ and I KNOW that He is Messiah... and I did NOT believe in Him or even know of Him (I thought that His Name was a curse word!) before this event. He met me on my way to kill myself and I called out to Him and have never been the same. I rejoice in David's testimony! God can save ANYONE!
d8ke9dl39 3 years ago
This is rediculous.For any religion to condone the phrase "The devil made me do it" is just plain wrong.The devil if there is such a thing didnt make berkowitz kill,his being a sociopath made him kill.This show is basically saying it was alright for him to commit thes atrocities because he had to do it in order for god to save him and teach others gods love.Where was this so called gods love for the people he murdered?
ranchai100 3 years ago
I would encourage to watch all four sements of the "Forgiven for Life" program. We are NOT saying it was right for Berkowitz to murder victims. The being David was serving at the time was not the God that she serves today--Jesus Christ. The being David served in 1976-77 was Satan who seeks to steal, kill & destroy.
David takes fully responsibility for the murders and doesn't blame Satan.
InertiaFilms 3 years ago
HaHa Sizz06
"your religion will become a good joke like the greek gods."
Yeah that's why Christianity has been around for what 2000+ years and is still going strong. The more the world tries to stamp Christianity out the more it flourishes.
PucciPet 4 years ago
Absolutely correct ... alot of people don't know that Christianity grows bigger when attacked.
GodForum 4 years ago 3
I am happy to discuss this matter with you answering all questions.
Yes, I do know & believe that Christ is the Messiah. Evidence from even non-Christian historical sources points to this verdict.
But you didn't answer my question about Christianity difference (knowing & believing). Please do.
Further, I could say "Do you believe that the wind exist; do you believe in oxygen; or how about gravity?" You both know & believe in these things by faith based on evidence.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Also to say if you make a pact with satan you will commit murder,I must remind the poster of this video that a pastor a few years ago murdered 2 receptionists and an abortion doctor in the name of god not satan.During and after his trial he showed no remorse because according to him god told him to commit these murders.And most of his congegation agrred
ranchai100 3 years ago
I'm not sure of the connection you are trying to make. We are condoning any type of murder whatsoever. The true God the Bible does not tell people to "murder" other people.
Killing in war is a different matter. It is the difference in murder & killing. For example, self defense is killing but it is not murder.
InertiaFilms 3 years ago
@InertiaFilms Yeah your little CULT belief is as bad as Berkowitz's. He makes a mockery of your Bible and shows its every last flaw. You THREATEN people with "hell" if they don't fall in line; you're the one who will rot there, phony.
Adam and Eve were NOT real people.
BettorOffSingle 1 year ago
@InertiaFilms Yeah, "answering all questions" until the ones you can NOT answer, then it's "you're negative, I need to block you."
You're the one caught up in the CULT OF BERKOWITZ now. You're as blind to your own sickness as Berkowitz is/was to his, and the problem is you are spreading it to others.
BettorOffSingle 1 year ago
Christianity isn't morality, it's just a crutch. If he were a deist or an atheist, he'd have to do a hell of a lot more than "accept Jesus" to feel redeemed, I'll tell you that.
hydradagger 4 years ago
I assume you mean that Christianity is a "crutch" because it makes Berkowitz (or any Christian) "feel better" about himself.
Futher, I can only assume you believe in a moral "right" & "wrong" because, if not, there would be nothing to to "feel bad" about.
So, the logical question is: where do you get your sense of what is "right", "wrong", "good" and "bad"?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Instinct and necessary social norms to enable public safety and well-being. Morality doesn't have to come from magic to be real.
hydradagger 4 years ago
If i understand you correctly, your sense of right/wrong, good/bad comes from "instinct and necessary social norms to enable public safety & well being."
However, that answer raises many, many questions. Who decides social norms (in India they worship cows, in US we eat them). Who decides what is well-being ? (Gov't, family, city/major)?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
"Murder is the unlawful killing of a human person with malice aforethought." that is right from the dictionary so inertia to your statement of "deaths in war are not "murder" that is false as there is "techniquelly" no lawful killing of a person in "gods eyes" and as for you mentioning people who killed lots of innocent people...-continued-
Krimzon07 4 years ago
look at the christians during the crusade when they slaughtered thousands upon thousands of innocent muslim women,children and even the elderly because they werent christian PS: I am pagan and think christ was 100% BS peace!
Krimzon07 4 years ago
Christians killed Muslims during crusades? Never heard that one before. Even if it were true, I think perhaps you refer to the Roman Catholic "church" which is not a part of orthodox Christianity.
As a pagan i can only assume you do not believe in moral absolutes. So, in your worldview, murder is neither "right" nor "wrong."
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
christianity is all the same both orthodox,catholic,methodist,luthern,baptist and all the others all believe that jesus was the "savior/messiah" and that there is the one "true" god so dont pull that different religion junk with me christianity is still christianity
Krimzon07 4 years ago
As an admitted "pagan' you cannot say you believe or understand the working of Christianity.
Ex: Catholicism is not compatable w/Christianity. The catholic religion has lots of un-Christian tenents, Mary, pray to saints, Pope as victor of Christ, prayer for dead, infalliability of Pope, pregatory, salavation = good works. Not Christianity.
As a pagan you do not believe in moral absolutes. So, you cannot say you are "right" & I am "wrong".
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
"ou cannot say you believe or understand the working of Christianity" its called reading you see christianity is very simple at the base bones you believe christ was the savior yes? you believe he was the son of your one and only god yes? well sounds very simple even for a person like you but do tell me if you want me to explain your own religion to you a little bit more FYI I was born a baptist and chose my own path and religion so dont think I dont understand
Krimzon07 4 years ago
I accept your challenge: please explain to me the different in "believing" Christ is the Messiah; and "knowing" that Christ is the Messiah using contrasting Biblical references to explain who is and is not a Christian.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
So, as a self described "pagan" do you believe in moral absoultes, i.e. things that are true for all people for all places, for all times?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
I was still hoping to hear from you explaining the difference between believing & knowing that Christ is the Messiah.
I was also still hoping to hear from where you derive your thoughts on moral absolutes.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Well did you see christ? Do you KNOW he was the messiah if not all you can do is cling onto belief. Morally killing even "lawfully in war" is still horrible and isnt a victory "a real general ends the war with no casulties"
Krimzon07 4 years ago
If I may quote your/webster's definition of murder..."the UNLAWFUL killing of a human being.." UNLAWFUL. When nations go to war, their armies are sanctioned by the gov't to wage violence and killing if necessary. So killing in war is LAWFUL. Not the same as murder.
No lawful killing in God's eyes??? Have you read the Bible's OT? There were many, many offenses declared by God to be punishable by death.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
unlawful has multiple definitions one can be looked as is a inmoral action that is considered "wrong" another can be through the eyes of the law you did not specify which "unlawful" you meant in your post and FYI you assume alot when you see someone of another religion so am I to assume your like charles manson a fanatic who loves to lure people into believing your who your not...dont assume ask you will be better off.
Krimzon07 4 years ago
Yes, the Bible chronicles the good & the bad. That's doesn't mean the Bible approves of murder as you imply, quite the opposite. (and, deaths in war are not "murder").
Hitler was an atheist molded by atheistic thinkers (Nietzsche & Hegel). This is not really debatable. It is true.
Stalin's atheistic legacy continues to this day in Godless Russia. He killed 50 M people.
This has everything to do with atheism. To think otherwise is ignoring the truth.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
I've always had this theory that "evil" people are actually just stupid. This proves it.
Caperton 4 years ago
What a great excuse, "I WAS DEMON POSSESSED" I didn`t do it, it was the devil.
With religion you have a backdoor for every abuse. Peace !!
Philos2006 4 years ago
Sounds like you didn't watch the entire video.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Sorry, but I did, at least this part. Should it have happened if he had been taught the truth, that there is no satan ? I doubt it
Peace !!
Philos2006 4 years ago
Thank you for your comments.
Since you say there is no Satan, then I can only assume & reason that you have no moral problem with the murders committed by David in the "Son of Sam" killings.
If you believe there is no Satan, do you also beleive there is no God?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Exactly: It`s very very unlikely that a god exists. Why should that imply that I have no problem with murder ? Ever heard of suicide bombers ? Why is it so easy for them ? Because they believe in a reward by god. Peace !!
Philos2006 4 years ago
Because if you don't believe in God, then there is moral Lawgiver. Therefore, each person is free to do whatever they personally feel is "right." So, in your worldview with no God there can be no "right" or "wrong", good or evil.
So, Berkowitz did what he felt was personally "right" & you can't say his view is wrong, or right, or that Hitler's was wrong, or that crime is "bad."
My worldview consists of moral absolutes as told by God.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
It suffises to have a look at the word of god( the bible) to be absolutely convinced that morality does not come from god.Morality`started when men thinkered what was best for the survival of the family, the clan, the tribe,the country,the world.
Assuming that godless people are immoral is putting all Boudhists in prison.
Philos2006 4 years ago
Yes, i have heard this clan, tribe, country morality reasoning before from other atheists. In your worldview Hitler was justified in what He did. Hitler was protecting his "tribe", "clan", for the survival of the German country.
Hitler, Stalin and their influencers like Nietzsche & Hegel were atheists! These Godless worldviews = 70M murders. Auschwitz. Treblinka. Stalin's atheist Russia killed 50 million.
That's immoral because God's pre-existing Word says: "Thou shall not murder."
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Thou shalt not murder:At the last count 2.000.000 murders or killings are reported in the bible. Stalin was a seminarist. Hitler killed every opponent imaginary or real. This has nothing to to with atheism. Peace !!
Philos2006 4 years ago
Berkowitz is allowed to live after killing people mercilessly. No justice.
bigbill1991 4 years ago
By the way, it is David Berkowitz himself who declares he was possessed by the devil. And he aught to know, because he worshipped the devil and felt the evil powers rob him of his mind. Since he repented to Jesus, the things he did as "son of sam" make him sick. It sure was real enough to him, and he's the one who lived it.
waldenehn 4 years ago
people who are hostile to Christianity say things that don't make a bit of sense. What is there about "forgiveness" that "turns people off" to Christianity? Isn't forgiveness of sin and peace forever in heaven something that would actually "turn people on"?
waldenehn 4 years ago
All serial killers do not become Bible believers. Just the ones who cry for mercy and forgiveness from our Redeemer, Jesus Christ, Who took the death penalty for them. Our sins make us all deserving of Hell. Why do some people get mad when a particularly evil sinner finds the Light of redemption and lives in the joy of forgiveness? Why not talk to Jesus yourself, and learn how true and real forgiveness is?
waldenehn 4 years ago
well, some of them took the death penalty for themselves, but i can dig it.
nedmu 4 years ago
I dont care what you believe, but dont act like you're all high and mighty. You're no better than anyone else who steps foot on this earth. Your babble about forgiveness only turns people of to your religion.
Sizz06 4 years ago
How come all serial killers become bible kooks?
beachbum32127 4 years ago
What other serial killers do you know that are "Bible kooks"?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
kill him
I live in NY and remember this bastard
hang em high
tkoe2007 4 years ago
TKO. Would it surprise you to know that Berkowitz is also pro-death penalty? I am too.
It is probably no surprise to you that your state, NY, doesn't have a death penalty--and didn't in 1977. So, I suggest you blame the political party in NY that prevents the death penalty from happening.
In the meantime, you have an amazing, modern day Apostle Paul conversion in Berkowitz' life. His life doesn't negate or justify the past, but gives hope to the future for all that need forgiveness.
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Were dinosaur bones placed on earth by the devil? lol. If you want to have faith then go for it, but dont act like you're all high and mighty. When push comes to shove.. your religion will become a good joke like the greek gods.
Sizz06 4 years ago
Dahmer.
AZNAtheist 4 years ago
This entire series is irresponsibles journalism used to promote Christianity. David Berkowitz did not kill people because he was possessed by the devil; the devil is just a fictional character and no serious investigator would accept that as a motive.
KidGloves2112 4 years ago
Berkowitz is not blaming the devil for his actions. He takes full responsiblity for the murders. He is simply explaining the factors involved that lead to his life of crime.
Since you imply that Berkowitz's actions were wrong/bad/evil/hurtful, yet don't believe in the devil/satan/lucifer, then why were his actions "wrong"?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
You seem to be implying that belief in the devil is a prerequisite to understanding the difference between right and wrong. How Christian-centric of you.
Berkowitz has always been a manipulating liar, and he always will be, regardless of his claim to salvation.
youreawanker 4 years ago
Hmmm. May I ask: where do you get your sense of right and wrong then?
And, what is truth and non-truth? Do you decide for yourself what is right/good and what is evil/bad behavior?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Speaking of manipulating liars.
ericsuckerland 4 years ago
Not sure what you are referring to? Berkowitz? Me? the Bible? Nietzsche?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
Who decides what is "irresponsible"?
InertiaFilms 4 years ago
I call upon all christians to go to Sullivan correctional facility and pray with son of hope David Berkowitz for he's been touched by the Lord of mercy Jesus Christ and he's been purified and baptised in the fire of his penance.Only a sincerely penitent sinner can be touched and forgiven by Jesus and i can see the pure joy of a man who's been touched by God in David's eyes.Praise the Lord.Witness the power of forgiveness.
rollingstone33 4 years ago
ok they said that he was adopted and lived in new-york ive noticed the photos of him being arrested he strongly resembles Andrew Dice Clay maybe they are related and i do mean that genetically I know that were all children of God but thats NOT what i mean
nterp1965 4 years ago
This dude is funny.Looks like he finally found a place where his lies are accepted,congrats.
panthers012345678910 4 years ago
I don't know if he's really changed or not. I hope for his sake that he is, but really only God knows for sure.
newbirth35 4 years ago
amazing what you can make your mind believe.
johnnyboylean 4 years ago
ur telln' me.
caksmomn 4 years ago