The two camps can argue till the cows come home and it isn't going to change a thing. Either you know it was a conspiracy due to your own research and independent thought, or you have taken the lazy way out and accepted the version of events presented by those who wish to conceal the truth, the very same people who did the murder. That's like having Jeffrey Dahmer investigate the Jeffrey Dahmer murders.
Fletcher Prouty pretty much set the inner workings of the agency, and identified E.G. Landsdale there on site with the "three tramps" he expertly talked about the lack of security and described "cover stories" that we put out and the instances of people being removed out of the area to get perceptions out of the way. - largely debunking any "new attempts at rewriting history". keep in mind, the autopsy photos originally were destroyed, and Cyril Wecht blew this out of the water years ago.
Can anyone see the president's grimacing image on the black and white photo of the back of the head wound from 7.04 onwards? It's right below the centre of the photo and goes all the way to 6 o'clock. The eyes, nose, jarred open mouth and jaw is clearly visible!
If someone impersonated Oswald before the assassination in Mexico City which evidence seems to prove this.Is it not plausible that there was other confederates involved.It does not have to be our Goverment,but someone did go out of their way to implicate Oswald with a undercover K.G.B agent who just so happens to specialize in assassination???
arcturus33333 : "A force causes an object to accelerate in the direction of the force"
That's fizzic's ! Applied to a solid object of which the head containing a semi-fluid brain is not !
The physics is explained at The Academic JFK Assassination Site run by Prof. Rahn who has a 200 page monograph length physics treatise that says you're full of balarney sanwiches !
You can visit his unchallenged for 15 yrs. mathmatical wizardtry thats leaves 5 out of 4 baffled by fractions :-)
@DKetch1966 My Nazi Lebensborn bastard boy Dr. Lowry has just about enough knowledge on the JFK case to write out on a piece of confetti. His lies, disinformation, Reich wing politics, and bigotry however could fill an entire phone book from "Jew York City" (his words not mine).
Confused? Don't be... come learn more about Dr. Lowry at my channel!
1) In the end, the JFK of history is hardly a man who needed to be removed from office by shadowy, nameless forces from with in the USG . The notion that these nebuolous anti-Progressive plotters acted in order to bring in the domestic liberal agenda of LBJ & were able to get Chief Justice Earl Warren , the man who would not let Ernesto Miranda go to jail because a police officer forgot to read him his rights, to be a willing part of the overall scheme, is simply idiotic. (See below)
"Recently," Cmdr. Humes notes, "there were about 300 people at a convention in Dallas, each hawking a different conspiracy theory about how the President was killed. I think this kind of general idiocy is a tragedy , it almost defies belief , but I guess it is the price we pay for living in a free country. I can only question the motives of those who propound these ridiculous theories for a price and who have turned the President's death into a profit making industry."
Anyone who DOESN'T believe this was a conspiracy is from the same planet as the naive nutcases that believe the 9-11 commission bullshit report. Either that or you're working for some bureacracy to continue the cover up. Besides all the other MOUNTAINS of evidence discovered by tireless and dedicated researchers, just the OBVIOUS fact that he was killed by a shot from the FRONT is enough by itself to show to anyone with half a brain and an ounce of honesty that it had to be a conspiracy.
2) That may come as a serious disappointment to the hard-core keepers of the JFK-As-Progressive myth, but since it has already been accepted by honest liberal scholars such as Richard Reeves, Thomas Reaves, Christopher Matthews, Ronald Steel, Stanley Karnow and to a lesser extent Arthur Schlesinger, then the prospects for the mythmakers one day receeding into obscurity can still be considered hopeful.
Those of us who use our full brain know that conspiracy is bullshit !
A force causes an object to accelerate in the direction of the force. None so blind as he who will NOT see. The only "bullshit" is the Warren Cover-up Commission Report, and stupid comments from gullible people like you that actually believe the government's lies and bullshit instead of SCIENCE. Black is white and up is down, right? Sounds like a republi-con. That's what they always try to tell everybody. Okay whatever you want to believe. Go on your merry way and we'll just agree to disagree.
Yes solid objects , the human skull is not solid . It contains a semi-solid brain . You ought to stop using the bogus CTer Fizzics and use the real stuff :
Prof. Kenneth Rahn
The Academic JFK Assassination Site
He has a 200 page monograph length physics treatise on the head snap . Been on the net for years . Nice try but cd knows better and knew better 10 years ago , something I never try to minimise by any sense of false modesty .
Does having mountains of evidence against ppl mean that some of them must have killed JFK ? Or does it indicate the weakness of CT's ?
In real-world criminal investigations having literally dozens of suspects is an indication that the probe is in very deep & serious trouble.
The evidence isn't converging to point to 1 suspect or a few suspects who may have conspired. The evidence against 1 suspect is about as good as the evidence against any other :
In any real world criminal investigation evidence is gathered to exculpate the innocent & incriminate the guilty .
When the criminal community of researchers 'Hi-Jacked History' virtually overnight , the list suspects increased & continues to increase to this day !
Why ?
So more $ can be made on books , video's & speaking tours if the list suspects is endless & is based upon unfounded speculation atop a mountain of flawed reasoning .
Pat is I'm sure a very nice man and reasonably smart ...gulp...for a CTer :-)
He spent 3 yrs cramming to become a overnight expert in all things JFK forensics, ballistics , medical , firearms , you name it he has a answer to what amounts to "baffling science" .
Howdy dood dat ?
If you can hurdle that WTC of logical absurdity you shouldn't find the rest of his "act" to indigestible . There's no getting around getting a well rounded education .
Make JFK into something he was not or would ever be , replace LHO w/any number of disliked characters or agency's (All unfounded) , scream conspiracy and announce that you have arrived in the 'Nick of a Tie' to save us from the 'Evil Minions of Conspiracy' that we didn't even know existed until sensational seeking conspiracists told you so in a book/video for sale .
Sound kooky ? That's what a lack of critical/skeptical thinking skills does to a Nation.
Looks to be another informative series on the subject. I just finished watching "I killed JFK", "Evidence of Revision", "Was there a shot from the Drains?", and "JFK Assassination-a new look at the Evidence" all four which I recommend to anyone interested in researching.
Lets See How Much Blood CTer's Like Pat speer Have On Their Hands and the price paid for unwanted and unneeded speculation based opinions , sedition and treason :
I think I know what you're thinking of. Virtually all the Parkland doctors thought the large head wound was towards the back of Kennedy's head. Many of them testified to as much, and there is video footage of them saying so. While there's no evidence they were pressured into changing their testimony, it's very clear they WERE pressured into saying the neck wound could have been an exit. So you're mostly right.
It is amazing how many people changed their testimony after being "interviewed" by the CIA. The converstaion would go like this: What did you see? I saw a front entry/rear exit head wound. He was shot from behind. Not accoring to the head wounds. Are you a communist? No. Then why would you want to commit treason by obstructing a governement investigation and supporting communists? I wouldn't. Do you want to rethink what you saw? I saw a rear entry/front exit head wound.
ALL doctors at parkland said JFK had TWO entrance wounds from the front.Research The 488th Military Intelligence Unit-Jack Crichton-George Lumpkin-David H Byrd-George HW Bush
Not true. Most felt the neck wound was an entrance, but few, if any, of the Parkland doctors had an opinion as to the direction of fire of the head wound. SOME mused it may have been an exit for the bullet entering Kennedy's neck.
I have seen them on film stating that they saw 2 entrance wounds.Most of them went along with official story beacause they feared for thier lives.Its in "The Men who Killed Kennedy".It's also right there in the Zap film when JFK's head is knocked back away from the fence area.
The two camps can argue till the cows come home and it isn't going to change a thing. Either you know it was a conspiracy due to your own research and independent thought, or you have taken the lazy way out and accepted the version of events presented by those who wish to conceal the truth, the very same people who did the murder. That's like having Jeffrey Dahmer investigate the Jeffrey Dahmer murders.
Dr1Canuckchuck 7 months ago
Fletcher Prouty pretty much set the inner workings of the agency, and identified E.G. Landsdale there on site with the "three tramps" he expertly talked about the lack of security and described "cover stories" that we put out and the instances of people being removed out of the area to get perceptions out of the way. - largely debunking any "new attempts at rewriting history". keep in mind, the autopsy photos originally were destroyed, and Cyril Wecht blew this out of the water years ago.
SuperOmnicron 8 months ago
Can anyone see the president's grimacing image on the black and white photo of the back of the head wound from 7.04 onwards? It's right below the centre of the photo and goes all the way to 6 o'clock. The eyes, nose, jarred open mouth and jaw is clearly visible!
paraconti 1 year ago
My god that Warren commission was a joke, a lot of medics stated that a large wound was at the right lower back side of the skull.
ricotermonen 1 year ago
This video in the link, has some of the most up to date information on the
JFK assassination youtube.com/user/investigations2012
HempNinja1 1 year ago
If someone impersonated Oswald before the assassination in Mexico City which evidence seems to prove this.Is it not plausible that there was other confederates involved.It does not have to be our Goverment,but someone did go out of their way to implicate Oswald with a undercover K.G.B agent who just so happens to specialize in assassination???
acpposey1 1 year ago
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arcturus33333 : "A force causes an object to accelerate in the direction of the force"
That's fizzic's ! Applied to a solid object of which the head containing a semi-fluid brain is not !
The physics is explained at The Academic JFK Assassination Site run by Prof. Rahn who has a 200 page monograph length physics treatise that says you're full of balarney sanwiches !
You can visit his unchallenged for 15 yrs. mathmatical wizardtry thats leaves 5 out of 4 baffled by fractions :-)
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Hey Cddraftsman, why don't you start your own JFK website? Sounds like you have enough base knowledge to do so.
DKetch1966 2 years ago
@DKetch1966 My Nazi Lebensborn bastard boy Dr. Lowry has just about enough knowledge on the JFK case to write out on a piece of confetti. His lies, disinformation, Reich wing politics, and bigotry however could fill an entire phone book from "Jew York City" (his words not mine).
Confused? Don't be... come learn more about Dr. Lowry at my channel!
MsDrLowry 6 months ago
1) In the end, the JFK of history is hardly a man who needed to be removed from office by shadowy, nameless forces from with in the USG . The notion that these nebuolous anti-Progressive plotters acted in order to bring in the domestic liberal agenda of LBJ & were able to get Chief Justice Earl Warren , the man who would not let Ernesto Miranda go to jail because a police officer forgot to read him his rights, to be a willing part of the overall scheme, is simply idiotic. (See below)
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
"Recently," Cmdr. Humes notes, "there were about 300 people at a convention in Dallas, each hawking a different conspiracy theory about how the President was killed. I think this kind of general idiocy is a tragedy , it almost defies belief , but I guess it is the price we pay for living in a free country. I can only question the motives of those who propound these ridiculous theories for a price and who have turned the President's death into a profit making industry."
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Now there is an unbiased source! Commander Humes. Surely he has no axe to grind or his own ass to protect.
Have you been drinking the John McAdams Kook- I mean Kool-Aid?
RPenta 2 years ago
Anyone who DOESN'T believe this was a conspiracy is from the same planet as the naive nutcases that believe the 9-11 commission bullshit report. Either that or you're working for some bureacracy to continue the cover up. Besides all the other MOUNTAINS of evidence discovered by tireless and dedicated researchers, just the OBVIOUS fact that he was killed by a shot from the FRONT is enough by itself to show to anyone with half a brain and an ounce of honesty that it had to be a conspiracy.
arcturus33333 2 years ago
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
2) That may come as a serious disappointment to the hard-core keepers of the JFK-As-Progressive myth, but since it has already been accepted by honest liberal scholars such as Richard Reeves, Thomas Reaves, Christopher Matthews, Ronald Steel, Stanley Karnow and to a lesser extent Arthur Schlesinger, then the prospects for the mythmakers one day receeding into obscurity can still be considered hopeful.
Those of us who use our full brain know that conspiracy is bullshit !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
A force causes an object to accelerate in the direction of the force. None so blind as he who will NOT see. The only "bullshit" is the Warren Cover-up Commission Report, and stupid comments from gullible people like you that actually believe the government's lies and bullshit instead of SCIENCE. Black is white and up is down, right? Sounds like a republi-con. That's what they always try to tell everybody. Okay whatever you want to believe. Go on your merry way and we'll just agree to disagree.
arcturus33333 2 years ago
Yes solid objects , the human skull is not solid . It contains a semi-solid brain . You ought to stop using the bogus CTer Fizzics and use the real stuff :
Prof. Kenneth Rahn
The Academic JFK Assassination Site
He has a 200 page monograph length physics treatise on the head snap . Been on the net for years . Nice try but cd knows better and knew better 10 years ago , something I never try to minimise by any sense of false modesty .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Does having mountains of evidence against ppl mean that some of them must have killed JFK ? Or does it indicate the weakness of CT's ?
In real-world criminal investigations having literally dozens of suspects is an indication that the probe is in very deep & serious trouble.
The evidence isn't converging to point to 1 suspect or a few suspects who may have conspired. The evidence against 1 suspect is about as good as the evidence against any other :
Which means it's no good at all.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
In any real world criminal investigation evidence is gathered to exculpate the innocent & incriminate the guilty .
When the criminal community of researchers 'Hi-Jacked History' virtually overnight , the list suspects increased & continues to increase to this day !
Why ?
So more $ can be made on books , video's & speaking tours if the list suspects is endless & is based upon unfounded speculation atop a mountain of flawed reasoning .
Boy dat was another JFK no brainer eh ? !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Special Case Protein Genius Pat Speer !
Pat is I'm sure a very nice man and reasonably smart ...gulp...for a CTer :-)
He spent 3 yrs cramming to become a overnight expert in all things JFK forensics, ballistics , medical , firearms , you name it he has a answer to what amounts to "baffling science" .
Howdy dood dat ?
If you can hurdle that WTC of logical absurdity you shouldn't find the rest of his "act" to indigestible . There's no getting around getting a well rounded education .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Whatsda trade off mon ?
Special deal ConspiracyTheory^ :
For a incoherent , non-sensible , logical absurdity riddled hypothesis :
You get :
* A loss of critical , classical & skeptical thinking skills ,
* A belief system based on mumbo jumbo .
* On special coupon days : Bullshit stacked so high it would of capsized the Titanic .
^ None are really theorys , they never got past the working/tenetive hypothesis stage of the scientific method of inquiry . Sad faces all around.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
The CTer plan from the outset :
Make JFK into something he was not or would ever be , replace LHO w/any number of disliked characters or agency's (All unfounded) , scream conspiracy and announce that you have arrived in the 'Nick of a Tie' to save us from the 'Evil Minions of Conspiracy' that we didn't even know existed until sensational seeking conspiracists told you so in a book/video for sale .
Sound kooky ? That's what a lack of critical/skeptical thinking skills does to a Nation.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Looks to be another informative series on the subject. I just finished watching "I killed JFK", "Evidence of Revision", "Was there a shot from the Drains?", and "JFK Assassination-a new look at the Evidence" all four which I recommend to anyone interested in researching.
arcturus33333 2 years ago
Lets See How Much Blood CTer's Like Pat speer Have On Their Hands and the price paid for unwanted and unneeded speculation based opinions , sedition and treason :
930 Jonestown (1) 39 Heavens Gate (2) 74 Waco (3)
168 Oklahoma City Bombing (600 injured.) (4)
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1211 Tot.
(1) : Mark Lane Complicite.
(2) : Members convinced of Ufo reality.
(3) : Koresh: *They* were out to get him.
(4) : McVeigh bombing coincides w/'Waco'.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
I think I know what you're thinking of. Virtually all the Parkland doctors thought the large head wound was towards the back of Kennedy's head. Many of them testified to as much, and there is video footage of them saying so. While there's no evidence they were pressured into changing their testimony, it's very clear they WERE pressured into saying the neck wound could have been an exit. So you're mostly right.
PatSpeer 2 years ago 2
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago 2
midniterambler is a fuckin asshole
amazrand 2 years ago
Will have to block you now :-)
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago 2
mideniterambler is a fuckin asshole
amazrand 2 years ago
ALL doctors at parkland said JFK had TWO entrance wounds from the front.Research The 488th Military Intelligence Unit-Jack Crichton-George Lumpkin-David H Byrd-George HW Bush
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Not true. Most felt the neck wound was an entrance, but few, if any, of the Parkland doctors had an opinion as to the direction of fire of the head wound. SOME mused it may have been an exit for the bullet entering Kennedy's neck.
PatSpeer 2 years ago
I have seen them on film stating that they saw 2 entrance wounds.Most of them went along with official story beacause they feared for thier lives.Its in "The Men who Killed Kennedy".It's also right there in the Zap film when JFK's head is knocked back away from the fence area.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago