ninja (plural is still ninja, like moose) or shinobi no mono, were initially soldiers. ninjutsu is the skills you would need to learn as a soldier, to perform intelligence/special operations.
this was in an era of massive mercenary armies. shinobi were infiltrators.
the idea of assassin being the primary mssion is similarly silly...
even iga and koka were populated by land granted samurai, who happened to be ninja, and farmed that land, since they lived there,..
@YourChemicalRomancex I actually found out who he really was. sarutobi was a character in a book published in the era. sasuke (sorry if i mispell the second name) kozuki was the ninja that he was based off of. but there isn't any evidence that he existed either, such is the way of the ninja eh
got a question about ninjas? EX: how were they so fast? what r their origins (mythological or historical) what r their traditions? if u wanna kno, send a message with ur question, or ask on my channel comments, and ill answer as soon as i can
Good video. It's a shame so many don't know how to listen to what is said. They take tidbits out of context and nags on it without realizing they only make themselves look stupid.
Stop looking at petty details, it's the big picture that is important. Who cares how a ninja dressed 700 years ago, is that knowledge going to change anything?
A shinobi is one who endures, not a crazy person clad in black who's running on rooftops.
so in truth a samurai could also be a ninja as long as he did what a ninja did.. no matter what style of combat he had.. if he spied, disquised and decieved he was a ninja..
how is it that the ninja are lower class at 4:35, & then you talk about Hatori Hanzo & others as Samurai leaders, If ninja were all lower class no one would no there name.
@Seres1091 i red somewhere that nin means blade.. and means being someone who is sharp as a blade ... could also alure to the meaning of endure
i like your explenation..
i am keen to learn anythin gi can.. i am highly inspired specially by ninjas and i dont know exactly why.. its not a fad of omine i had two spirit inspirations in my life it was bruce lee and ninja.. help me and i wil llisten to anything
@Seres1091 as far as I know the term for Ninja was rarely traditionally used in japan, the characters are the same but are read as "shinobimono", which literally means "stealer in" or "infiltrator", the word ninja is made from taking the opposite readings of the characters "nin" and "jya", which have the same meaning.
Can you provide a site or historical document that is chinese origin to state what you just said? From what I know the Lin Kuei were just forest dwellers and did not practice any martial arts.
@Reido2828 from what i have read and understannd is lin kuei translates to forest demons-this is a title that some would reference the ninja as. that is to say the lin kuei wasnt a family of ninja, rather an entity they were compared to. keep researching i am probably wrong-sifting fact from fiction when you are dealing with a secret class in society is difficult to say the least
Any history of Ninjutsu has to acknowledge from the outset that the whole subject is shrouded in myths and propaganda, most of it spread by the Ninja themselves.
Point is, no one really knows for sure the exact truth separating out fact from fiction, and fitting the truth together, is almost impossible and always coloured by the opinions of the person attempting it.
In short, don't listen to people who try to rubbish your research on this; they don't know for sure either.
And you're right about the origins of the ninja uniform; whether it has an earlier origin in the Lin Kuei, I don't know, but the adoption of it by the Ninja does indeed originate with Japanese theatre. Your point at the end on that note was absolutely correct.
Nice inclusion of "ask a ninja" as an endnote, too.
@JCLeSinge It is hard to get all the facts right on this subject. That's why i called it Ninja 'Lore'. But it's fascinating, and fun to look into. Thanks.
@tokarski21: In your research for this, did you run across the concept of Kyushujutsu Tenkan-ho? That's the Ninja philosophy of truth. A basic concept of it is that truth and lies can be "interchanged" without compromising what the truth actually is. So obfuscating the facts is one of the few things we can confidently ascribe to historical ninjutsu.
@tokarski21: I thought it was very good, actually; I know some people have been bitching, but they're just sore that you didn't lay out "their" idea of what the "real" Ninja were all about.
What, did they expect a comprehensively detailed breakdown of complete Ninja philosophy, history and practice in eight minutes?
I especially liked the run-down on famous Ninja; you always give fascinating leads to look more deeply into the subject; I'm certainly very interested in the Minoans now; cheers.
all this is ridiculous ...this video have non sense!!!
the lin quei warriors from china where dress in black with mask for night operations,you said that ninjas come from lin quei..is true, it coming from chinese in sen shu too and they use to wear in black for the same reason!
@KARASU68 ur rite this video is shit ninja did not com from china or nay bull shit but buddhist monks came from china and then created ninjutsu. the ninja people this guy was talking about was true but the ninja gi or shinobi shuko i think, it wasnt made in the 1900s it was made before but in shit from.
@privateer013 not all ninjas where of the samurai class, some of them where exiled samurai which in that time made them lower than the farmers. so... they may have used to be, and a lot of the ninjas where suns of exiled samurai that have there fathers weaponry and wanted to live the family name with or without honor.
@privateer013 no man i definitely agree with you. i was just pointing out some facts i know the fiery boat story is cool and all, but it is just not what happened the thing is Hanzo was not a ninja. point blank he was a samurai. btw, i have a question for you, is your real name Mikel, and just so you don't think i am weird for asking mine is Matthew and i have a friend that sounds like you.
wow you fucking newb hatori hanzo did not die in a fiery sea battle, lol you there are scrolls that state that hatori hanzo died of natural causes at the age of 57in his home in iga.
such a similar set up to the story of the Assassins and the Saracen Knights in the middle east. Assassins used techniques similar to what the Ninjas used around the 1300's, and were looked upon as dishonorable cowardly warriors by their Saracen-Knight counterparts.
I guess sneaky people always get a bad image amongst their society.
Thank you so much for this video it helps alot I really appriciate you posting this video.....but I have 1 question and will really appriciate it if you can answer...since it is widely believed that "Ninjutsu" can be traced back to ancient China does that mean the origins of Japanese martial arts or the roots came from China???
Well, that's a tricky question, and one that has a lot of controversy behind it. I don't believe that Japanese martial arts can be traced back anywhere but to Japan. What came from China were some ideas and practices that over a long period of time evolved and were absorbed as local marial arts developed.
As far as can be traced in what historical records are left, All Eastern Martial arts come originally from India. When the Budda made pacifists of many of his followers, the Kshatriya's didn't forget their warrior training, they figured out how to use it in defense (Dead Missionaries DON'T make many converts) and as they moved into China and Indonesia, and on into Japan, Korea and the Phillipines the arts altered to suit local necessities.
The origin is from India..but technique s changed and from in different forms..just as buddha.. there left the warriors skill with him even though he was a monk .. earlier he was prince who learnt how to warfare skills... there might be reasons he thought other monks how to defend but later it keeps adding to new techniques and new styles.. this is wat i belive
I would like to redo many of these episodes one day - but like yourself, I am looking for a professional venue that would contract me to do so. Until then I will continue making new episodes on a wide a variety of topics, and hopefully increase my viewership. Thanks for watching and commening.
Also, the black clad "Kuroko" you see on kabuki is there to visually mask their existence, giving an illusion of them being backstage.
It may resemble "ninja" to you westerners, but they are totally unrelated.
No, they are not the foundation of ninja image as this show claims.
God, I could go on and on about this.
No, I am not an expert on Ninja. However, I am speaking from an average Japanese POV, and even then, I have to say about HALF of information presented here are bogus.
There's a lot of totally wrong information mixed in with somewhat correct information.
The... um... researcher for this video needs to um, "research" a bit more before he presents his story.
There's tons of accounts wrong, including showing portraits of TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON than what's being discussed, or killing off people in ways they didn't die.
I just hope no one takes this video too seriously.
I think Goemon is considered more of a thief than Ninja,..
but I thought this clip was well produced!! Good Job!!!
Would you care to do piece on Himiko? She was basically a queen/shaman of early Japan. I think most (if not all) of the source is from China. She is shrouded in mystery but she is a big part of Japanese history none the less.
Very good! Even with a few inaccuracies, you understand how to make an interesting video! Most historical documentaries, they may have PERFECT accuracy, but they're soooo boring, they are unwatchable. Thanks for a one in a million good documentary. Very very good job.
This isn't too bad. I mean, there are a lot of inaccuracies such as Hanzo's death, shinobi being peasants & assassins, and Ishikawa Goemon being a shinobi, but it's better than most things I've seen.
In this video, the truth is about 15 %. On the other part, there are inaccurate and mistaken informations about Ninja such as a mere speculation or a confusion of historical records. It's clear that the author of this video had no chance to learn Japanese history.
Ego much, MiCICL? You claim educational status, yet you start bragging about your genitalia on YouTube. If you are truly knowledgable in ninja history, why don't you point the video owner in the direction of some correct and informative sources instead of belittling him and trying to exaggerate the length of your e-penis?
Hi Tokarski. Sorry about all the 'comment removed by author's' I left on your page. I started flaming all the people who were criticising your very well-done video. Then I realised that only losers fight Youtube battles-- so I deleted them all. I admire your patience in always giving polite responses to some very rude and badly brought up people. Great Video! I'm educating myself on your previous work now--well done!
Thanks, I appreciate it. Certainly everyone is entitled to their opinions, and Youtube is definitely a place they are spoken. One of the great things here is that you can actually respond to the people who's videos you watch, and like Denzel Washington said, "It's all good."
I'm japanese and sorry tokarski21 I laughed so hard cus almost all of your information are so wrong.
Have you ever read japanese books about history and culture? The many foreigners with misinformed opinions are a result of reading only materials written in english.
Now I understand how foreigners misunderstand "ninja" and japanese history.
Dont worry about saoricious, hes obviously some kinda of expert on the ninja more-so then u...idiot. Im Japanese, and i say your information was very informative and would love to hear more on the subject! :)
Its obvious u dont have a brain in your head to understand anything from a Japanese book, and the only thing u know about the Japanese language is what uve picked up on from watching subtitled anime lol. You never lived a day of your life in Japan lol. Better luck next time kiddo
what!? what are you talking about?subtitled anime?? im japanese woman and if you were a japanese I have no idea why you can't find this video contains lots of wrong infomation. ok, i write in japanese for you
From all these discusions there are obviously a lot of people who would like to know the true story of the Ninja, so do us all a favor - because as you say, I don't have the ability - tell us something. Where can we go on the internet to get the right information? My 'Lost History' videos are all about getting people interested in learning more about a topic - so quit complaining and really tell us something.
Well, for one, showing portrait of the famous Takeda Shingen, one of the most prominent warlord of the sengoku era, and claiming it to be of Ishikawa Goemon, you already know you're off to a bad start.
There's also a lot of "theories" based on the man's pure guessing, passed on as facts. I hate to say this, but this "Lost History" show showcases a much lower standards than what you would expect from say, something on the Discovery Channel.
Ur a real piece of work dude lmao. Ur ego is about as massive as my cock. If ur Japanese then I'm ashamed to have Japanese heritage. Your not a an expert on the subject, and just because your Japanese doesnt mean you know everything about Feudal Japan. Idiot, thats like me saying, "Hey! Since I live in the US I know more about Civil War soldiers then any other foreigners because I was born and raised in the US." Lmao Fuck looser. The Japanese have a name for people like you, but I wont educate u
LMAO! Ur lame dude. I gotta Playstation 3 and can type in Japanese all day to! Please explain to us what makes u the foremost expert on feual Japan? Lol u probably read a book or two and interpreted everything in it to be fact and anything outside of what uve been told is not correct haha! I bet u believe everything u see on tv to. Dumb fuck. If ur so fuckin knowledgable on the subject then wheres ur vid? U aint got one so u can stfu lmao!
I especially liked this one. I always thought Ninjas were a perverse version of the Ninjutsu. I thought they were just like the samurai who, before being employed by the govt used to work only for themselves and benefit of others, not profit driven assassins.
A very well narrated and well researched documentary! It was incredibly entertaining to watch. My only complaint would be that I would have wanted a part 2, 3, 4, and possibly 5!
Keep up the amazing work! I have just subscribed to your channel :D
Thanks. If I someday get enough viewers like you I might be able to convince someone like The History Channel to let me do these episodes on a bigger scale.
I really hope so! I would love to see your shows on the History Channel, heh. I know you're probably really busy, but plus don't stop making videos :). It is quite rare to see documentaries where the narrator has charisma and character.
Your wrong,Ninjas exist today,everyone says ya ya ya well wheres the proof?Well wheres the proof that thier is no Ninjas today? As I thought, almost nobody knows what thier talking about and the fictional ninja is what everyone thinks is real now which is absolute bullshit, they had armour that was swrod proof and wieghs literally almost nothing, but the modern day ninja has BULLET proof armour that wieghs literally almost nothing, you should do better research on thier armour that they DO have.
Proof is a very profound word, and very elusive. Obviously, I haven't proven anything, nor have I attempted to. It's all information - some right, some wrong, some in the middle. Thanks for watching.
how do you define a ninja? i think the best way to define one would be someone who has been taught what it is to be a ninja by another ninja. the teachings must be genuine (from when they were first written) and must not be obsolete for todays times.
people are mastering the arts of ninjutsu today but how can you call them a ninja when there weapons and technique are obsolete & give you the lower hand in todays world. you pit a swat officer or a military Lieutenant against a ninjutsu master.
the ninjustu master will lose every time. there is more to being a ninja than weapons and combat. i am curious because of the uncanny cleverness and intelligence that i assume ninjas had (especially the ones that survived) if they were able to become a more important part of the earth and through things like religion & meditation if they were able to posess powers and qualities that gave them extended life spans & "supernatural" abilities.
Hattori Hanzo Masanari didn't die in a sea battle against the Fuma, he died of natural causes, ie. old age. Also Sasuke Sarutobi is a fictional character from books. Every historian knows he never existed. You should check your facts better.
Hattori Hanzo probably did die of old age, and yes, Sasuke is a fictional character. Thanks for clearing that up. Remember, the episode is called 'Ninja Lore', not 'Ninja Fact' - although i did try to get things as accurate as possible. I guess if I was a better historian you wouldn't be watching me on Youtube - but I hope you enjoyed the show and I appreciate your viewing it.
I would like to know if the Japanese ninja was ever used against ancient China & Korea in 1500 AD/CE. During Japanese invasion of Korea and China part 1 (part 2 was in late 1800's, see 1895-1945)
background in the begining you hear ho-ho
mistermafia100 3 months ago
Cool channel man - just good ol' fashioned information with no bias
maxINaus 4 months ago
i am very impressed, nice job.
fardisghomeshi 5 months ago
There are no plural words in Japanese hence it's Ninja and Samurai so you don't add any s on the end.
NovaScotiaNewfie 6 months ago
Ninja is a western term and weren't Ninja Samurai?
NovaScotiaNewfie 6 months ago
1:21... i have that game ahahaha
TheCreator4 7 months ago
didnt ninjas begin as farmers?!
freshindeed23 8 months ago
@freshindeed23
nope.
ninja (plural is still ninja, like moose) or shinobi no mono, were initially soldiers. ninjutsu is the skills you would need to learn as a soldier, to perform intelligence/special operations.
this was in an era of massive mercenary armies. shinobi were infiltrators.
the idea of assassin being the primary mssion is similarly silly...
even iga and koka were populated by land granted samurai, who happened to be ninja, and farmed that land, since they lived there,..
Arteanor 7 months ago
This is 75% true.
A much longer & heart breaking story was taught to me on how the ninja came into existence. & how they are a super power now.
jahseedbeatz504 8 months ago
cool. nips r crazy
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@YourChemicalRomancex I actually found out who he really was. sarutobi was a character in a book published in the era. sasuke (sorry if i mispell the second name) kozuki was the ninja that he was based off of. but there isn't any evidence that he existed either, such is the way of the ninja eh
dragonlaviz 11 months ago
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Fallan1990 11 months ago
got a question about ninjas? EX: how were they so fast? what r their origins (mythological or historical) what r their traditions? if u wanna kno, send a message with ur question, or ask on my channel comments, and ill answer as soon as i can
Retributor16 1 year ago
Could you do a Topic like this on The Samurai?
Sendosune 1 year ago
@Sendosune Yes, not in the near future, but I'd like to.
tokarski21 1 year ago
Good video. It's a shame so many don't know how to listen to what is said. They take tidbits out of context and nags on it without realizing they only make themselves look stupid.
Stop looking at petty details, it's the big picture that is important. Who cares how a ninja dressed 700 years ago, is that knowledge going to change anything?
A shinobi is one who endures, not a crazy person clad in black who's running on rooftops.
Thonero 1 year ago
so in truth a samurai could also be a ninja as long as he did what a ninja did.. no matter what style of combat he had.. if he spied, disquised and decieved he was a ninja..
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
how is it that the ninja are lower class at 4:35, & then you talk about Hatori Hanzo & others as Samurai leaders, If ninja were all lower class no one would no there name.
ThePenguinPulveriz 1 year ago
Hello I'm trying to find some reliable source documents for sasuke sarutobi. does anyone have the time period he lived in?
dragonlaviz 1 year ago
Ninja in Chinese is pronounced "ren-zhe" (忍者), which means "the one who endures", what does it mean in Japanese?
Lin Kuei, which means "forest ghosts" were a real clan of assassins popularized by Mortal Kombat.
Seres1091 1 year ago
@Seres1091 I believe it has the same meaning in Japanese.
tokarski21 1 year ago
@Seres1091 i red somewhere that nin means blade.. and means being someone who is sharp as a blade ... could also alure to the meaning of endure
i like your explenation..
i am keen to learn anythin gi can.. i am highly inspired specially by ninjas and i dont know exactly why.. its not a fad of omine i had two spirit inspirations in my life it was bruce lee and ninja.. help me and i wil llisten to anything
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@Seres1091 it means the same thing in japanese with a few exceptions to actual definition. Lin Kuei actualy mean forestt demon.
wolvenprince16 1 year ago
@Seres1091 as far as I know the term for Ninja was rarely traditionally used in japan, the characters are the same but are read as "shinobimono", which literally means "stealer in" or "infiltrator", the word ninja is made from taking the opposite readings of the characters "nin" and "jya", which have the same meaning.
so its similar in meaning but not the same.
universalJok3r 1 year ago
@Seres1091
Can you provide a site or historical document that is chinese origin to state what you just said? From what I know the Lin Kuei were just forest dwellers and did not practice any martial arts.
Reido2828 10 months ago
@Reido2828 from what i have read and understannd is lin kuei translates to forest demons-this is a title that some would reference the ninja as. that is to say the lin kuei wasnt a family of ninja, rather an entity they were compared to. keep researching i am probably wrong-sifting fact from fiction when you are dealing with a secret class in society is difficult to say the least
sunsbane 10 months ago
@Seres1091
your a funny one...
there is a kid peddling that crap on youtube... but it is the only place i have ever heard it....
there is no confirming evidence for any 'Lin Kuei'....
Arteanor 7 months ago
Any history of Ninjutsu has to acknowledge from the outset that the whole subject is shrouded in myths and propaganda, most of it spread by the Ninja themselves.
Point is, no one really knows for sure the exact truth separating out fact from fiction, and fitting the truth together, is almost impossible and always coloured by the opinions of the person attempting it.
In short, don't listen to people who try to rubbish your research on this; they don't know for sure either.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
LOL, it showed American Ninja. That was my favorite movie when I was 5...
OidrunkIrirshninja 1 year ago
ugh american guy not realz my guess
CookieOnMyShoulder 1 year ago
dude ninja started in japan
tazman5512 1 year ago
u forgot the most famous group of ninjas mate....the teenage mutant ninja turtles haha
ebmasdan92 1 year ago 2
@ebmasdan92 Damn!!
tokarski21 1 year ago
And you're right about the origins of the ninja uniform; whether it has an earlier origin in the Lin Kuei, I don't know, but the adoption of it by the Ninja does indeed originate with Japanese theatre. Your point at the end on that note was absolutely correct.
Nice inclusion of "ask a ninja" as an endnote, too.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
@JCLeSinge It is hard to get all the facts right on this subject. That's why i called it Ninja 'Lore'. But it's fascinating, and fun to look into. Thanks.
tokarski21 1 year ago
@tokarski21: In your research for this, did you run across the concept of Kyushujutsu Tenkan-ho? That's the Ninja philosophy of truth. A basic concept of it is that truth and lies can be "interchanged" without compromising what the truth actually is. So obfuscating the facts is one of the few things we can confidently ascribe to historical ninjutsu.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
@JCLeSinge No, that's new to me. Very interesting. So I did something right here. Haha.
tokarski21 1 year ago
@tokarski21: I thought it was very good, actually; I know some people have been bitching, but they're just sore that you didn't lay out "their" idea of what the "real" Ninja were all about.
What, did they expect a comprehensively detailed breakdown of complete Ninja philosophy, history and practice in eight minutes?
I especially liked the run-down on famous Ninja; you always give fascinating leads to look more deeply into the subject; I'm certainly very interested in the Minoans now; cheers.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
daisuke togakure was the founder of togakre ryu ninjutsu wich is this first style
abcb1521 1 year ago
some koreans believe the idea of Ninjas was first created in Korea and was later introudced to Japan
JKFDDSY2009 1 year ago
This video is full of errors.
This video is full of errors.
This video is full of errors.
naka503 1 year ago
@naka503 Could you explain better?
dinho01 1 year ago
Do not forget of the Other Ninja Clans, There was More then 2, There were Iga, Koga, Fuma and Negoro.
TRXProductionsX 1 year ago 3
This video is full of errors.
If anybody who researches ninja history seriously, please watch "Response to Lost History-Ninja Lore" video.
The video was made by real Japanese.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago 11
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BuffonMusa 1 year ago
who ever did this i wanna thank you this info has helped me compelete my reseach on ninijutsu
8umber 1 year ago
@8umber You are very welcome.
tokarski21 1 year ago
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@8umber
"who ever did this i wanna thank you this info has helped me compelete my reseach on ninijutsu "
Please don't thank.
This video is full of errors.
Tokarski himself recognizes that too.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
hey
bummercal 1 year ago
modern ninja would more than likley be computer hackers rather than martial artist
bummercal 1 year ago
sorry for my bad english:
the true ninja story is not on the net...!
all this is ridiculous ...this video have non sense!!!
the lin quei warriors from china where dress in black with mask for night operations,you said that ninjas come from lin quei..is true, it coming from chinese in sen shu too and they use to wear in black for the same reason!
THIS VIDEO IS WRONG!!!
KARASU68 1 year ago 3
@KARASU68 ur rite this video is shit ninja did not com from china or nay bull shit but buddhist monks came from china and then created ninjutsu. the ninja people this guy was talking about was true but the ninja gi or shinobi shuko i think, it wasnt made in the 1900s it was made before but in shit from.
MrFrogface13 8 months ago
Christian Bale's Batman is a ninja!
jivenesspie 1 year ago
thanks for this video its really cool and I've been trying to learn about the ninjas for a long time but never find anything that sounded true
Ashhfurr 1 year ago
@privateer013 not all ninjas where of the samurai class, some of them where exiled samurai which in that time made them lower than the farmers. so... they may have used to be, and a lot of the ninjas where suns of exiled samurai that have there fathers weaponry and wanted to live the family name with or without honor.
bighalo2 1 year ago
@privateer013 no man i definitely agree with you. i was just pointing out some facts i know the fiery boat story is cool and all, but it is just not what happened the thing is Hanzo was not a ninja. point blank he was a samurai. btw, i have a question for you, is your real name Mikel, and just so you don't think i am weird for asking mine is Matthew and i have a friend that sounds like you.
bighalo2 1 year ago
@privateer013 did i say he was a ninja???
bighalo2 1 year ago
I love your works man. :D learned alot.
Lionel0008 1 year ago
@Lionel0008 Thanks.
tokarski21 1 year ago
wow you fucking newb hatori hanzo did not die in a fiery sea battle, lol you there are scrolls that state that hatori hanzo died of natural causes at the age of 57in his home in iga.
bighalo2 1 year ago
@bighalo2 You're right - he did die of natural causes. But the sea battle legend is pretty cool.
tokarski21 1 year ago
@bighalo2 The Hattori Hanzo name was used by many Shinobi leaders over many generations in Western Iga.
mmacconn069 1 year ago
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@mmacconn069
"The Hattori Hanzo name was used by many Shinobi leaders over many generations in Western Iga. "
Only Hattori clan.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
Hey, what is the track used over the part telling the details of the famous ninja? I like the part of the beat at 5.34. Let me know
illustriousimagery 1 year ago
@illustriousimagery It's from the Donald Byrd album 'Street Lady'. I think it's 'Lansana's Priestess'.
tokarski21 1 year ago
google Doe's Account
seekfears 1 year ago
Cool vid. I like Sulsas better than ninjas.
chosonbuddy 1 year ago
More Ask A Ninja 30 seconds or so from the end!
aimike3 1 year ago
1:30 ish: ASK A NINJA!!
aimike3 1 year ago
6:52 is more like the Sulsa(Hwarang warrior) of Korea. The hood is kinda not like the ninja.
chosonbuddy 1 year ago
6:52 is more like the Sulsa(Hwarang warrior) of Korea. The hood is kinda not like the ninja.
chosonbuddy 1 year ago
Sir you are very smart.
chosonbuddy 1 year ago
I think people should learn more about Korean Culture than the japanese culture.
chosonbuddy 1 year ago
Hattori Hanzo was not a Ninja, he was a Samurai... There's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between a Ninja and Samurai!
SmplyIrrsstbll 1 year ago
@SmplyIrrsstbll you got that right Samurai were the 2nd in the caste system ninja were farmers who got tired of samurais bossing them around
sageteenshuriken 1 year ago
such a similar set up to the story of the Assassins and the Saracen Knights in the middle east. Assassins used techniques similar to what the Ninjas used around the 1300's, and were looked upon as dishonorable cowardly warriors by their Saracen-Knight counterparts.
I guess sneaky people always get a bad image amongst their society.
Arabman666 1 year ago
nonsense!
naka503 2 years ago
Thank you so much for this video it helps alot I really appriciate you posting this video.....but I have 1 question and will really appriciate it if you can answer...since it is widely believed that "Ninjutsu" can be traced back to ancient China does that mean the origins of Japanese martial arts or the roots came from China???
BilladaKilla2004 2 years ago
Well, that's a tricky question, and one that has a lot of controversy behind it. I don't believe that Japanese martial arts can be traced back anywhere but to Japan. What came from China were some ideas and practices that over a long period of time evolved and were absorbed as local marial arts developed.
tokarski21 2 years ago
i would very much like to see your sources for some of these claims...
there are no practitioners of ninjutsu alive. so saying "then, and now" is incredibly misguided.
also worth noting...
the opening line, "the ninjutsu" referring to ninja is incorrect.
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
I think he's referring to the concept, the ideaology and the archtype as opposed to actual Koga or Iga descendants.
gregsoccult 1 year ago
As far as can be traced in what historical records are left, All Eastern Martial arts come originally from India. When the Budda made pacifists of many of his followers, the Kshatriya's didn't forget their warrior training, they figured out how to use it in defense (Dead Missionaries DON'T make many converts) and as they moved into China and Indonesia, and on into Japan, Korea and the Phillipines the arts altered to suit local necessities.
LeoAutodidact 2 years ago
@BilladaKilla2004
The origin is from India..but technique s changed and from in different forms..just as buddha.. there left the warriors skill with him even though he was a monk .. earlier he was prince who learnt how to warfare skills... there might be reasons he thought other monks how to defend but later it keeps adding to new techniques and new styles.. this is wat i belive
praveenmssg2u 1 year ago
@BilladaKilla2004 I read somewhere that the book, "The Art of War" which came from China greatly influenced the ideology of ninjas.
FlufflyFrillyPonies 1 year ago
easily the best ninja documentary I've seen - on Youtube or anywhere else. Cheers!
SimonCowellrecommend 2 years ago
Dr. Phil is a Ninja Of coarse. Thank you master for the valuable piece of insight you have granted me
FENRISFENRIRWOLF 2 years ago
You are most welcome, grasshopper.
tokarski21 2 years ago
That was a great video
very informative and lacking the usual bs
OsuKyokushin 2 years ago
Thanks!
tokarski21 2 years ago
respect, you have some cool videos
oldeenglishgoonja 2 years ago
I'm glad you like them.
tokarski21 2 years ago
very interesting
oldeenglishgoonja 2 years ago
five stars just for using ninja scroll footage
:P
superchaotix 2 years ago
thanks
tokarski21 2 years ago
Terrific vid. can you please make a longer, more detailed one?
Even though this style of narration was good, i would prefer a more serious tone.
Keep up the good work and i look forward to more.
kingfbi 2 years ago
I would like to redo many of these episodes one day - but like yourself, I am looking for a professional venue that would contract me to do so. Until then I will continue making new episodes on a wide a variety of topics, and hopefully increase my viewership. Thanks for watching and commening.
tokarski21 2 years ago
Also, the black clad "Kuroko" you see on kabuki is there to visually mask their existence, giving an illusion of them being backstage.
It may resemble "ninja" to you westerners, but they are totally unrelated.
No, they are not the foundation of ninja image as this show claims.
God, I could go on and on about this.
No, I am not an expert on Ninja. However, I am speaking from an average Japanese POV, and even then, I have to say about HALF of information presented here are bogus.
aohige 2 years ago
Wow.
There's a lot of totally wrong information mixed in with somewhat correct information.
The... um... researcher for this video needs to um, "research" a bit more before he presents his story.
There's tons of accounts wrong, including showing portraits of TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON than what's being discussed, or killing off people in ways they didn't die.
I just hope no one takes this video too seriously.
If it was a troll attempt, he definitely got me.
aohige 2 years ago
Its true Dr.Phil Is in fact a ninja! Have you ever noticed his ninja blades? Their hidden in his tux.
killachris28 2 years ago
Also, Takeru is NOT considered Ninja at all and there is not correlation between Takeru and Ninja.
Also, the so called portrait of Momochi at 5:11 is actually Ashikaga Takauji, the founder of Ashikaga Shogunate. Bascially a Shogun. Not Ninja.
ehors123 2 years ago
tokarski21 -
I think Goemon is considered more of a thief than Ninja,..
but I thought this clip was well produced!! Good Job!!!
Would you care to do piece on Himiko? She was basically a queen/shaman of early Japan. I think most (if not all) of the source is from China. She is shrouded in mystery but she is a big part of Japanese history none the less.
ehors123 2 years ago
I will keep her in mind for a future episode. Thanks.
tokarski21 2 years ago
Very good! Even with a few inaccuracies, you understand how to make an interesting video! Most historical documentaries, they may have PERFECT accuracy, but they're soooo boring, they are unwatchable. Thanks for a one in a million good documentary. Very very good job.
SolHearst 2 years ago
Thanks for watching!
tokarski21 2 years ago
luv this vid ^^
chrizzostar 2 years ago
Thanks!
tokarski21 2 years ago
pretty awesome vid^^
mmartist7 2 years ago
Thanks for watching.
tokarski21 2 years ago
This isn't too bad. I mean, there are a lot of inaccuracies such as Hanzo's death, shinobi being peasants & assassins, and Ishikawa Goemon being a shinobi, but it's better than most things I've seen.
OkamiNinja7 2 years ago
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
tokarski21 2 years ago
one of the greatest ninja HATTORI HANZO
bluegreen1234579 2 years ago
In this video, the truth is about 15 %. On the other part, there are inaccurate and mistaken informations about Ninja such as a mere speculation or a confusion of historical records. It's clear that the author of this video had no chance to learn Japanese history.
Ebutuoy2004 2 years ago
i like the show
eggotrip007 2 years ago
Thanks!
tokarski21 2 years ago
Some informations may be wrong, however i really like this video. It sure had to took a lots of time to make and i learnt some things from it.
If you have some really good source on Ninjutsu history, could you pleas PM me ? Thanks :)
DaviedCZ 2 years ago
sorry for the ngativity but most of this is wrong. Check out the shinobi soldiers vids they have much more historical info
TSOAS2008 2 years ago
I will check them out. Thanks.
tokarski21 2 years ago
I m a real ninja.............
I have shown that many times...
Shinobi must be anonym.....mask is not nessesery
Jumok80 2 years ago
Ego much, MiCICL? You claim educational status, yet you start bragging about your genitalia on YouTube. If you are truly knowledgable in ninja history, why don't you point the video owner in the direction of some correct and informative sources instead of belittling him and trying to exaggerate the length of your e-penis?
SDMFTrueBlue 2 years ago 2
Hi Tokarski. Sorry about all the 'comment removed by author's' I left on your page. I started flaming all the people who were criticising your very well-done video. Then I realised that only losers fight Youtube battles-- so I deleted them all. I admire your patience in always giving polite responses to some very rude and badly brought up people. Great Video! I'm educating myself on your previous work now--well done!
KingofStarfox 2 years ago
Thanks, I appreciate it. Certainly everyone is entitled to their opinions, and Youtube is definitely a place they are spoken. One of the great things here is that you can actually respond to the people who's videos you watch, and like Denzel Washington said, "It's all good."
tokarski21 2 years ago
Since the video has so many wrong informations, it's far from educational.
mongolmongola 2 years ago 2
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KingofStarfox 2 years ago
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KingofStarfox 2 years ago
They showed a quick clip from Ninja Scroll! Thats fuckin awsome! Makes Naruto look like a kids cartoon. Oh wait...it is lol
MiClLC 2 years ago
I'm japanese and sorry tokarski21 I laughed so hard cus almost all of your information are so wrong.
Have you ever read japanese books about history and culture? The many foreigners with misinformed opinions are a result of reading only materials written in english.
Now I understand how foreigners misunderstand "ninja" and japanese history.
anyway, it was so funny.
saoricious 2 years ago
Well, I'm glad you're laughing instead of angry.
tokarski21 2 years ago
Dont worry about saoricious, hes obviously some kinda of expert on the ninja more-so then u...idiot. Im Japanese, and i say your information was very informative and would love to hear more on the subject! :)
MiClLC 2 years ago
MiClLC isn't Japanese.
I'm real Japanese and your video is wrong as the experts on Samurai Archives com said to you.
You know what I'm talking about right?
buffon399 2 years ago
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KingofStarfox 2 years ago
please tell what u know
uglyPussyofmyMom 2 years ago 2
Its obvious u dont have a brain in your head to understand anything from a Japanese book, and the only thing u know about the Japanese language is what uve picked up on from watching subtitled anime lol. You never lived a day of your life in Japan lol. Better luck next time kiddo
MiClLC 2 years ago
what!? what are you talking about?subtitled anime?? im japanese woman and if you were a japanese I have no idea why you can't find this video contains lots of wrong infomation. ok, i write in japanese for you
普通、学のある日本人ならこの動画の内容が間違ってることぐらいわかるだろ。それともお前単なる馬鹿ﾁｮﾝ？（笑）
saoricious 2 years ago
このおっさんは他人から知的にみられたいだけなんだと思う。
buffon399 2 years ago
toraski don't understand Japanese.
He just picked random internet sites, never verify whether it's correct or wrong.
I mean he can't, because he doesn't have the ability.
I hope most Americans are not dumb to believe this video.
buffon399 2 years ago
From all these discusions there are obviously a lot of people who would like to know the true story of the Ninja, so do us all a favor - because as you say, I don't have the ability - tell us something. Where can we go on the internet to get the right information? My 'Lost History' videos are all about getting people interested in learning more about a topic - so quit complaining and really tell us something.
tokarski21 2 years ago
You want to research Japanese history then learn Japanese to be able to read academic books.
But you know there is "Samurai Archives Forum" . Many members of the forum read and write Japanese and be able to access those books.
Why don't you go back to the forum thread that you created and ask them what was wrong with your video?
buffon399 2 years ago
As for the better Ninja history video, my suggestions are
Response to Lost History-Ninja Lore
watch?v=zpBGXtECIzA
Authentic Ninjutsu
watch?v=4EWc_2PAPAM
What's Ninjutsu? 1/2
watch?v=IL-baWBEPwE
What's Ninjutsu? 2/2
watch?v=08BID7UKCbo
buffon399 2 years ago
I had forgotten about that forum, and there are some good comments there if anyone is interested.
tokarski21 2 years ago
Well, for one, showing portrait of the famous Takeda Shingen, one of the most prominent warlord of the sengoku era, and claiming it to be of Ishikawa Goemon, you already know you're off to a bad start.
There's also a lot of "theories" based on the man's pure guessing, passed on as facts. I hate to say this, but this "Lost History" show showcases a much lower standards than what you would expect from say, something on the Discovery Channel.
aohige 2 years ago
Ur a real piece of work dude lmao. Ur ego is about as massive as my cock. If ur Japanese then I'm ashamed to have Japanese heritage. Your not a an expert on the subject, and just because your Japanese doesnt mean you know everything about Feudal Japan. Idiot, thats like me saying, "Hey! Since I live in the US I know more about Civil War soldiers then any other foreigners because I was born and raised in the US." Lmao Fuck looser. The Japanese have a name for people like you, but I wont educate u
MiClLC 2 years ago
Take this test if you are real Japanese.
1. 官位の学問所で朱子学以外の学問を教授することを禁じた政策は？
2.天保の飢饉の際、貧民救済を訴えましたが聞き入れられず、門弟と共に蜂起した人物は？
3.将軍足利義教に「立正治国論」をもって諫言した人物
4.戦国大名が領国を支配するために発布した法令は？
buffon399 2 years ago
5.特権的な座や市場の独占を廃し、商品取引の拡大円滑化を図った政策は？
6.下の者が上を凌ぐ意味で、古代的・伝統的権威を否定する社会風潮は・
7.播磨守護赤松満祐が将軍足利義教を謀殺した事件は？
8.琉球国王が将軍の代替りごとに江戸に送った使節は？
9.本田畑に五穀以外の作物を植えることを禁じた法令は？
10.老中補佐の職は？
buffon399 2 years ago
11.寺田屋事件の概要を５００字以内で述べよ。
buffon399 2 years ago
LMAO! Ur lame dude. I gotta Playstation 3 and can type in Japanese all day to! Please explain to us what makes u the foremost expert on feual Japan? Lol u probably read a book or two and interpreted everything in it to be fact and anything outside of what uve been told is not correct haha! I bet u believe everything u see on tv to. Dumb fuck. If ur so fuckin knowledgable on the subject then wheres ur vid? U aint got one so u can stfu lmao!
MiClLC 2 years ago
lol
You can't answer any of them!
And you clearly don't understand the Japanese sentences.
You are the most 池沼 Japanese wannabe I ever saw.
buffon399 2 years ago
I checked your profile.
You are just a troll.
It seems everybody want you to commit suicide.lol
buffon399 2 years ago
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KingofStarfox 2 years ago
I especially liked this one. I always thought Ninjas were a perverse version of the Ninjutsu. I thought they were just like the samurai who, before being employed by the govt used to work only for themselves and benefit of others, not profit driven assassins.
roqueez 2 years ago
A very well narrated and well researched documentary! It was incredibly entertaining to watch. My only complaint would be that I would have wanted a part 2, 3, 4, and possibly 5!
Keep up the amazing work! I have just subscribed to your channel :D
tehkseven 2 years ago 2
Thanks. If I someday get enough viewers like you I might be able to convince someone like The History Channel to let me do these episodes on a bigger scale.
tokarski21 2 years ago
I really hope so! I would love to see your shows on the History Channel, heh. I know you're probably really busy, but plus don't stop making videos :). It is quite rare to see documentaries where the narrator has charisma and character.
All the best!
tehkseven 2 years ago
I will be making more - thanks again!
tokarski21 2 years ago
ok before anyone else makes stupid comments Ninjas are "Killers for money" and not Ninjas with magic that are hired to help and save other people.
jokerisnomak 2 years ago
Your wrong,Ninjas exist today,everyone says ya ya ya well wheres the proof?Well wheres the proof that thier is no Ninjas today? As I thought, almost nobody knows what thier talking about and the fictional ninja is what everyone thinks is real now which is absolute bullshit, they had armour that was swrod proof and wieghs literally almost nothing, but the modern day ninja has BULLET proof armour that wieghs literally almost nothing, you should do better research on thier armour that they DO have.
tcoxic 2 years ago
Proof is a very profound word, and very elusive. Obviously, I haven't proven anything, nor have I attempted to. It's all information - some right, some wrong, some in the middle. Thanks for watching.
tokarski21 2 years ago
No problem, I see your not an inmature whinny bitch who says thier right about everything, it was still a good video btw.
tcoxic 2 years ago
how do you define a ninja? i think the best way to define one would be someone who has been taught what it is to be a ninja by another ninja. the teachings must be genuine (from when they were first written) and must not be obsolete for todays times.
people are mastering the arts of ninjutsu today but how can you call them a ninja when there weapons and technique are obsolete & give you the lower hand in todays world. you pit a swat officer or a military Lieutenant against a ninjutsu master.
iMute0 2 years ago
the ninjustu master will lose every time. there is more to being a ninja than weapons and combat. i am curious because of the uncanny cleverness and intelligence that i assume ninjas had (especially the ones that survived) if they were able to become a more important part of the earth and through things like religion & meditation if they were able to posess powers and qualities that gave them extended life spans & "supernatural" abilities.
iMute0 2 years ago
Hattori Hanzo Masanari didn't die in a sea battle against the Fuma, he died of natural causes, ie. old age. Also Sasuke Sarutobi is a fictional character from books. Every historian knows he never existed. You should check your facts better.
WraitheDarkbane 2 years ago
Hattori Hanzo probably did die of old age, and yes, Sasuke is a fictional character. Thanks for clearing that up. Remember, the episode is called 'Ninja Lore', not 'Ninja Fact' - although i did try to get things as accurate as possible. I guess if I was a better historian you wouldn't be watching me on Youtube - but I hope you enjoyed the show and I appreciate your viewing it.
tokarski21 2 years ago
in 1500s AD/CE did Japanese shogun use Ninja's against Korea & China?
Uberaoshi 2 years ago
I would like to know if the Japanese ninja was ever used against ancient China & Korea in 1500 AD/CE. During Japanese invasion of Korea and China part 1 (part 2 was in late 1800's, see 1895-1945)
Uberaoshi 2 years ago
thanks for the information
akanohebi 2 years ago
Good video!
superCatia 2 years ago
Thanks.
tokarski21 2 years ago
this guys voice sonds like David Carradine
GhashSnaga 2 years ago
Just don't look for me in your closet.
tokarski21 2 years ago
you got it! lol
GhashSnaga 2 years ago
awful ! it's just terrible joking for japanese.
NyaNyaOneOne 2 years ago
i learned a lot
BrandonDemery 2 years ago