Ive seen one of these near where I live . It was a promotional thing . I didnt try it but I watched .
I was surprised at how well people were able to skate on it but you could tell it wasnt all that good . I will stick to inline skates for my off ice practice .
i think many people are missing the point...its NOT meant to replace ice, it is just something that in countries where ice rinks are shutting down, its at least something they can do to get a little more practice time in... Maybe they cant do everything, but they can at least work on SOME things that without it, maybe they couldnt get to...maybe ice time is limited due to the shutting down of rinks. wouldnt hurt us to do that here, save some US bucks, even if just a few dollars here and there!
but wat about toe in jumps like flip, toe loop, lutz and wat about reg. jumps like axel and loop? wouldnt the plastic break if u toed in and if u dug in too hard on a loop jump
There are a lot of movements your skates can not make on this plastic. One of these moves is just simply cutting to a stop. Instead of throwing up your shaveings of "Ice"/"plastic" the blades just cut in deep, and throw you on your side. Extremely good skaters could actually get injured while skateing on this stuff just by doing a simple move. But this is a very good training material for beginners. You could even have your own indoor private rink for letting your child practice at home.
i was once skating on that kind of wax/fiber surface but not with blades but with somekind of inline skating but the wheels were much smaller and there was somekind of metal (as wide as the normal blades) around each of that plastic wheel. i dont know the name of the skates though - it was back 25 years ago.
there was somekind of zamboni as well but for shaving the wax/fiber surface -thats correct.
One of the many problems this would have would be when the plastic gets deep scratches in it, they would be there forever, instead of being just smoothed over by the zamboni. The ice skaters would trip and fall if they went over the scratches.
hmm.. I think there's not much they can do about it. It's gonna cost more if they use the "iceless ice". Plus, that "ice" doesn't look right. xD When I look at it, I feel like I won't be able to skate right.. o.O
By cost more, do you mean by when they buy it or by using it? They were saying the whole time that it would be costing less. I personally think this is a smart idea - maybe not for figure skaters but maybe hockey players. I flinch at the idea of using a toe pick here... LOL, I'd like to have this at home so I can just practice spins. I'd prefer this to my skate spinner - it looks more fun.
I see problems with this. At the end you notice that just on the demo floor, the plastic had a bunch of indentions. That'll only increase over time and prolonged use. Skating rinks would have to replace it at least once a month or so. May still be cheaper then the icey alternative.
I read some japanese news about it...They resurface using some kind of wax. So the indentations and damage you see in the vid is actually the wax being split by the blades. The actual resin dosent get splintered so easily. So instead of water zambonis, you would have wax zambonies, but no cooling system. THATS where the savings are.
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And if you watch the video closely, the figure skater put cuts in the surface just by gliding around in circles. Imagine trying to come to a full speed stop on it!
I Agree Sapien. Can't imagine a plastic surface being too durable. The panels couldn't handle the traffic of more than a few ice hockey games before grooves on the surface become troublesome for skaters and pucks, let alone goalies. Only way would be to design a skate to work on it and not cut, but, like bteeuwen said, you might as well buy roller blades. and peticsu, if you ever fell on ice, you'd know it hurts just as bad or more than a roller surface, but you slide. This stuff's slippery.
It's clearly all about profits as this material appeals more to rink owners rather than having to pay and maintain costly ice surfaces.. but to be there with a straight face and say they developed it to help the young up and coming ice skating hopefuls.. LOL.
We all know how important Ice Skating is anyway right.. I mean, didn't all of you practice figure skating as children after school?.. :\
Should of just appealed to recreational users, instead of lying.
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ok ice is important though its almost a tradition the feeling of stepping ont he ice and the cold chill the sound of the ice as you stop its just the way to go... even though this is pretty neat i wouldent want to skate on this
and i agree with that but especially with hockey which is a very traditional sport i do not think that should be changed for hockey. you wont see soccer change much becuase its a very loved sport and tradition
so....I'm a hockey player. If I'm skating full speed for a puck against a defender and I need to stop quickly, won't I basically break my ankle and flop on the "ice" like I would if I were to hockey stop wearing roller blades?
@drummerwes81 Even worse;your ankles would completely break "off",leaving your skates stuck upright in the "plastice", bleeding to death from your ankles.
this sounds neat.... but will never be the same sensation.
p.s. figure skaters destroy the ice with their dumb toe picks. they should use these... and put springs under it while your at it... like the floor exercise
I agree. How would a figure skater use their toe picks on this new ice less rink while performing their jumps? It's a plastic, so wouldn't using a toe pick on it just tear the boards up? (I get the wax coating thing. But still... ;P) Cool idea though.
this isn't new at all. its just synthetic ice.. look it up.. it works great, my friend built a synthetic ice rink in his backyard.. it allows you to play hockey all summer long
"There aren't enough rinks in Japan, so this is definitely a plus. It may be difficult to practice everything on this rink surface, but it's good for partial moves like spins and steps." um that is kind of bad! what about jumps? i don't reall think it's a good idea. When i start figure skating lessons i want to skate on ice
I Agree Sapien. Can't imagine a plastic surface being too durable. The panels couldn't handle the traffic of more than a few ice hockey games before grooves on the surface become troublesome for skaters and pucks, let alone goalies. Only way would be to design a skate to work on it and not cut, but, like bteeuwen said, you might as well buy roller blades. and peticsu, if you ever fell on ice, you'd know it hurts just as bad or more than a roller surface, but you slide. This stuff's slippery.
if this is the same stuff i heard about awhile ago it will come off on goalie gear, like when goalies go down. I'd assume it would come off on figure skaters skates as well so i don't know what they plan to do about that
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TallRobby 5 days ago
@Revis did he take an arrow to the knee?
SuperExpressway 2 weeks ago
my question is what happens when you tear it up to much to skate on anymore...i mean its gotta get ripped up like normal ice right?
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IceMagicInt 7 months ago
i'm not a figure skater, but i would think it would be scary to dig your toe pick into that for jumps.
HelTra91 8 months ago
What happens when figure skaters make holes?
bunnyinskates 11 months ago
i love how the bloke almost lost it
MrGrog88 1 year ago
Ive seen one of these near where I live . It was a promotional thing . I didnt try it but I watched .
I was surprised at how well people were able to skate on it but you could tell it wasnt all that good . I will stick to inline skates for my off ice practice .
cool idea though
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RickeyFelkner 1 year ago
What a shit o_O I dont want it in my city!
cama9103 2 years ago
You stop as you would on the ice...you only have like 30% of the resistance...its wayyyy slower...but it works
peden64 2 years ago
how do you stop on plastic??
girlygirl127 2 years ago 3
it's frictional. once you get off the plastic ice, you can feel the blades all warm from the friction.
fanboys7 2 years ago
k thats cool
lalajonas4 2 years ago
beautiful and when i stop they have to change that part of the "ice"
anyone who have seen plastic ice closely have seen it is full with such deep graves which could easily make you fall down.
I have seen that the plastic was like peeled up it was looking really horrible.
buignerry 2 years ago
synthetic ice can make your blades dull
fanboys7 2 years ago 3
they save on ice, you waste on blades! lol!
ggd210 2 years ago
Jumps? Not possible? Seems a bit... eugh.
cutecavity 2 years ago
I hear they can, even spins!! :S
ggd210 2 years ago
it's possible. i saw a boy one time do double axel in there.
fanboys7 2 years ago
i think many people are missing the point...its NOT meant to replace ice, it is just something that in countries where ice rinks are shutting down, its at least something they can do to get a little more practice time in... Maybe they cant do everything, but they can at least work on SOME things that without it, maybe they couldnt get to...maybe ice time is limited due to the shutting down of rinks. wouldnt hurt us to do that here, save some US bucks, even if just a few dollars here and there!
looneybun1 2 years ago
i agree
willsing4ramen 2 years ago
i have skated on the nonice plastic surface before it is pretty awesome.
willsing4ramen 2 years ago
that is fucking awesome.
SimpleAndCleann 2 years ago
I'm waiting for this my whole life - really ;-)
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pff i cant do an instant stop ill fall on my side ... thats crap
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but wat about toe in jumps like flip, toe loop, lutz and wat about reg. jumps like axel and loop? wouldnt the plastic break if u toed in and if u dug in too hard on a loop jump
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skating on plastic will damage the blades...
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There are a lot of movements your skates can not make on this plastic. One of these moves is just simply cutting to a stop. Instead of throwing up your shaveings of "Ice"/"plastic" the blades just cut in deep, and throw you on your side. Extremely good skaters could actually get injured while skateing on this stuff just by doing a simple move. But this is a very good training material for beginners. You could even have your own indoor private rink for letting your child practice at home.
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they just told you this was originally manufactured by a Spanish company, yet that didn't stop your ignorant stereotyping. bravo Roses
shortbutsweetimo 2 years ago
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so would you be plastic-skating?
shdwcat13 2 years ago
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no! it's called ICEskating..its the whole point
juicydiamonds52 2 years ago
try a snow plough on that stuff OUCH...lol
leerothuk 3 years ago
lol i still would do the ice then plactic i the best on my team and i think plastic is bull
Saxaphone140052 3 years ago
i cant ice skate anyway :P
nicksalegend 3 years ago
whaaat? i saw this plastic imitation ice stuff at a hockey rink by me at least 5 years ago.
tylerriendeau 3 years ago
its sounds like a great idea...i know for sure ice skating is a costly and demanding sport :)
icedandfrozen 3 years ago 2
I wonder what it feels like...
This is a great idea!
If this ice-less rink is used in Countries in South,we may be able to have Winter Olympic in Africa and South America!
ikachanusa 3 years ago 15
Never tried it but heard it's a bit slower and it takes more energi to skate on the iceless-ice.
dropdeadobnoxious 3 years ago 2
yea it does
glovesave1995 3 years ago
yeah, and this would just be used for ametuer practice or recreation, ice would still be the official surface.
JenShima 3 years ago
@ikachanusa
my friend used to have one of these that was basicly a treadmill for skaters...the coolest thing ever
Revis 10 months ago
@ikachanusa Very unlikely because of the other sports,skiing for example.
MrJohnnyDistortion 2 months ago
I wonder how it really feels...
I wanna try it!
bbyiceyxxx 3 years ago 2
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Hockey is for clowns. Figure skating is all about grace, beauty, inspiration and passion.
waddleduckie1 3 years ago
Bravo!
sophialeb 3 years ago
have you ever watched hockey
get a clue waddleduckie
valaistuscinematics 3 years ago
just because you can't keep up with hockey players, doesn't mean you have to cry about it
sketchWLA 3 years ago
sooooo.
coliquid 3 years ago
I think that is an awesome idea! I really like how it would cut costs.
coastergurl7 3 years ago
i was once skating on that kind of wax/fiber surface but not with blades but with somekind of inline skating but the wheels were much smaller and there was somekind of metal (as wide as the normal blades) around each of that plastic wheel. i dont know the name of the skates though - it was back 25 years ago.
there was somekind of zamboni as well but for shaving the wax/fiber surface -thats correct.
does anyone know the name of the skates?
smurfiennes 3 years ago
One of the many problems this would have would be when the plastic gets deep scratches in it, they would be there forever, instead of being just smoothed over by the zamboni. The ice skaters would trip and fall if they went over the scratches.
Icewolfpromise 3 years ago
Iceless skating rink? Woah!!!
waddleduckie1 3 years ago
less air conditioning will be better for the environment
rsim0waterberries 3 years ago 3
hmm.. I think there's not much they can do about it. It's gonna cost more if they use the "iceless ice". Plus, that "ice" doesn't look right. xD When I look at it, I feel like I won't be able to skate right.. o.O
StarryIllusions 3 years ago 2
By cost more, do you mean by when they buy it or by using it? They were saying the whole time that it would be costing less. I personally think this is a smart idea - maybe not for figure skaters but maybe hockey players. I flinch at the idea of using a toe pick here... LOL, I'd like to have this at home so I can just practice spins. I'd prefer this to my skate spinner - it looks more fun.
booksandblades 3 years ago
Your not supposed to spin on your pick,anyway this would be worse for icehockey where speed and agility is most prevalent.
macsftw 3 years ago
wow.. but wat is the point of it,, ??
bbyiceyxxx 3 years ago
costdown
koibumi2000 3 years ago
I see problems with this. At the end you notice that just on the demo floor, the plastic had a bunch of indentions. That'll only increase over time and prolonged use. Skating rinks would have to replace it at least once a month or so. May still be cheaper then the icey alternative.
Fragacide 3 years ago 4
I read some japanese news about it...They resurface using some kind of wax. So the indentations and damage you see in the vid is actually the wax being split by the blades. The actual resin dosent get splintered so easily. So instead of water zambonis, you would have wax zambonies, but no cooling system. THATS where the savings are.
g4greg2u 3 years ago 2
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asian guy spekin' de engish?
Now i've seen it all
supadox 3 years ago
how would they resurface?? they said there is no resurfacing but it get cut up.....
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Voltano 3 years ago
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First of all who cares about figure skating. this only helps for figur skating not hockey. And HOCKEY IS THE WAY BETTER SPORT BY 100x
NHspartans14 3 years ago
dont think this will work for ice hockey
jacksun12 3 years ago 3
And if you watch the video closely, the figure skater put cuts in the surface just by gliding around in circles. Imagine trying to come to a full speed stop on it!
wayngrove 3 years ago 2
I Agree Sapien. Can't imagine a plastic surface being too durable. The panels couldn't handle the traffic of more than a few ice hockey games before grooves on the surface become troublesome for skaters and pucks, let alone goalies. Only way would be to design a skate to work on it and not cut, but, like bteeuwen said, you might as well buy roller blades. and peticsu, if you ever fell on ice, you'd know it hurts just as bad or more than a roller surface, but you slide. This stuff's slippery.
wayngrove 3 years ago
this is a good idea for recreational skaters but not to competing skaters...
they wont be able to jump there..
no lutz.. no flip... no toe loop...
cant imagine figure skating...
getmewild 3 years ago
lol@ the guy who almost fell.
eternalfoxx 3 years ago
I just like the asian anchor with the australian accent, haha, awesome!
apgully47 3 years ago
For the kids.. what a bunch of bs.
It's clearly all about profits as this material appeals more to rink owners rather than having to pay and maintain costly ice surfaces.. but to be there with a straight face and say they developed it to help the young up and coming ice skating hopefuls.. LOL.
We all know how important Ice Skating is anyway right.. I mean, didn't all of you practice figure skating as children after school?.. :\
Should of just appealed to recreational users, instead of lying.
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inasmacking 3 years ago
XD he does have an accent
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Limegreensox 3 years ago
HA! An Asian dude with an Australian accent.
Maddux99 3 years ago
They should install this at all local parks.
bralen24 3 years ago 4
ya i think this would be neat in a park or sumin but its not the same as real ice.
urmoma443433 3 years ago
ok ice is important though its almost a tradition the feeling of stepping ont he ice and the cold chill the sound of the ice as you stop its just the way to go... even though this is pretty neat i wouldent want to skate on this
havokflicks 3 years ago
Of course ice is a tradition in ice skating, but we DO live in the 21st century. It's the smarter and more efficient way to go, really.
1011375 3 years ago 2
and i agree with that but especially with hockey which is a very traditional sport i do not think that should be changed for hockey. you wont see soccer change much becuase its a very loved sport and tradition
havokflicks 3 years ago
you guys are all forgetting the most important thing... ice hockey is more important than figure skating and figure skating only f*cks up the ice!
I wonder what it would be like to play hockey on this...
P.S. all figure skating enthusiasts should either ignore my message (although it is true) or stop flaming us who tell you the truth...
P.S.S. go get your own damn rinks figure skaters...
pantswoot2 3 years ago
yeah.. like they are hurting each other all the time... what;s good on that... yeah.. ice hockey...
getmewild 3 years ago
yo just to let u retards out there know (getmewild for example) you don't hurt each other in hockey...
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pantswoot 3 years ago
yeah.. do you know about figure skating?
sucker! LOL
getmewild 3 years ago
wow "sucker"
that really hurts...
and i know that it fucks up the ice for hockey players...
you can't skate over the giant holes that they put in the ice
so yeah... i do know
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pantswoot2 3 years ago
LOL.. just keep hitting the "fuck" pantswoot2
getmewild 3 years ago
so....I'm a hockey player. If I'm skating full speed for a puck against a defender and I need to stop quickly, won't I basically break my ankle and flop on the "ice" like I would if I were to hockey stop wearing roller blades?
drummerwes81 3 years ago
Thats exactly what i was thinking, tight turns wouldn't work also.
macsftw 3 years ago
@drummerwes81 Even worse;your ankles would completely break "off",leaving your skates stuck upright in the "plastice", bleeding to death from your ankles.
MrJohnnyDistortion 2 months ago
thats awesome.
at least when you fall and hit your face it wont hurt as much
:]
xXrockmeXx 3 years ago
It's just as solid as ice.....
macsftw 3 years ago
It's called synthetic ice. There are a ton of sites on the internet that sell them. Why is this so new for the japanese?
PariseandBrodeur 3 years ago
this sounds neat.... but will never be the same sensation.
p.s. figure skaters destroy the ice with their dumb toe picks. they should use these... and put springs under it while your at it... like the floor exercise
maxwellcarl 3 years ago
this doesnt sound like steven irvin
allshallperishCHEAA 3 years ago
definately not.
TooManySnakes 3 years ago
thank youuuu
allshallperishCHEAA 3 years ago
who cares?
thatniggapaid 3 years ago
This has been around in th US since the 80s
mikesadick 3 years ago
Wouldn't it be SUPER hard to jump without using ur toe pick to land??
vmkroxmysox 3 years ago
uhh...For all my jumps, I need the toe picks like IN the ice...Wouldn't it be a bit hard to restore the plastic w/ huge dents from the toepicks??
JonnysVitamins 3 years ago
I agree. How would a figure skater use their toe picks on this new ice less rink while performing their jumps? It's a plastic, so wouldn't using a toe pick on it just tear the boards up? (I get the wax coating thing. But still... ;P) Cool idea though.
~T're
TreUrvawi 3 years ago
they will make skates without toe picks
amarmehta01 3 years ago
Evolution to the skates as well.
vamosnippon 3 years ago
i like it..
thewatcher1966 3 years ago
That would take all of the fun away form hockey. Ice hockey will always be best.
Starsfanfrvr 3 years ago
I like normal ice
icecreamman93 3 years ago
this isn't new at all. its just synthetic ice.. look it up.. it works great, my friend built a synthetic ice rink in his backyard.. it allows you to play hockey all summer long
WFwolverines 3 years ago
I seen that type of iceless ice in many places. Its actually a good idea.
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TruthAboutHeaven2126 3 years ago
When you completely "bite" it, I wonder if you glide like you do on ice OR get that horrible burn you get from sliding on a gym floor.
wakunahum 3 years ago 4
i think were all missing the point. an asian wit a british accent wtf.
consegleo 3 years ago
that's an australian accent stupid
Bloodgod40 2 years ago
"There aren't enough rinks in Japan, so this is definitely a plus. It may be difficult to practice everything on this rink surface, but it's good for partial moves like spins and steps." um that is kind of bad! what about jumps? i don't reall think it's a good idea. When i start figure skating lessons i want to skate on ice
LuvnJCandJB 3 years ago
How do they smooth it out? I mean, wouldn't there be unrepairable wear and tear? That would suck to buy new panels every few weeks.
sapienturk 3 years ago 4
I Agree Sapien. Can't imagine a plastic surface being too durable. The panels couldn't handle the traffic of more than a few ice hockey games before grooves on the surface become troublesome for skaters and pucks, let alone goalies. Only way would be to design a skate to work on it and not cut, but, like bteeuwen said, you might as well buy roller blades. and peticsu, if you ever fell on ice, you'd know it hurts just as bad or more than a roller surface, but you slide. This stuff's slippery.
wayngrove 3 years ago
They said they put a special wax on it. Maybe its like really hard or somthing i dont know.
18009011102 3 years ago
Interesting.
estskyline 3 years ago
The amount of co2 produced to keep the ice is way off the chart compared to this.
vamosnippon 3 years ago
Would you share how you know this? I am curious how much CO2 a zamboni emits.
sapienturk 3 years ago
youre screwed if you fall down
peticsu 3 years ago 2
if this is the same stuff i heard about awhile ago it will come off on goalie gear, like when goalies go down. I'd assume it would come off on figure skaters skates as well so i don't know what they plan to do about that
guitarfreek39 3 years ago
whats the point of this? you mine aswell just get a pair of rollerblades.
bteeuwen 3 years ago