The funny thing about his joke "IT WAS ON A TUESDAY" is because Tuesday is called like that after TYR, the Germanic god of war, actually, Tuesday in Spanish, for example, is MARTES, the day of MARS, the Roman god of war. And the airplane he talks about is called ARES, the Greek god of war. (Damn, I'm a nerd!)
how will it be fueled? and how will it be controlled once in the atmosphere of mars, i love the idea of this project and i really think it should be pushed
That's actually quite a big plane for what's effectively a space probe. Though I suppose it makes sence when you want something to fly in a not so dense atmosphere. You'll need all the help you can get.
It always saddens me how I see these great ideas and projects going on, & still only a small amount of money (in terms of a country's budget, whatever it may be) is ever invested in them. Perhaps we need someone like Carl Sagan to reinvigorate & stress the importance of science space travel
very interesting! I only have one question.. is the structure of the air at a 100.000 feet altitude on earth the same as the structure of air on 1 mile altitude on mars? He only told that the density is the same. But also is the structure of gases not important for flight performance?
nasa is involved with human including child torture experiments mkultra,cathy obrien,duncan ofinioan,aaron mccollum,brice taylor and thousands women/children-no moral limits where scientific status/dictatorship greed is concerned,project paperclip allowed nazi docs were allowed to continue auswich experiments on usa own citizens-irish,scot,native indians,kidnapped children docs pay for-used and died in experiments- child pow s continue in nasa and underground military bases-learn,rescue children
wait for some millions years for sun to get bigger and closer to mars and due to increase in temperature ,life will strt on mars.., in that time, we will have the capability to transport from earth to mars in few days and so the story ends..
Nature is preparing another planet for humans to live on...when we will wxhaust mars, step to jupitor...till the last planet(I consider Europa as last though its controversial..:D)
@WavyMinds even if temperature went up you still have the gravity/magnetic field problem. Weak magnetic field and you are killed by radiation. No Earth-like gravity and you are killed by muscle loss. And we haven't even talked about the potential pathogenic threat from microbial life, if indeed exists.
@WavyMinds Ohh that's what he says? I didn't catch that, thanks for clarifying that up. I knew he couldn't have made such a mistake when talking in front of an audience like TED's.
There is no valid reason to go to mars i'm sorry... Nice try though. We have a hard enough time trying to understand our own planet never mind one we can't live on. Yes science should be funded but put it into our own planet.
The US must amp up the educational standards if they hope to produce the next generation of scientists to continue the legacy of the great country that used to be the United States.
@HimmiJoe its not about education standards, its about inspiration. inspired kids will push themselves to learn, raising testing standards makes kids hate school. if you want to inspire people, new, ambitious scientific exploration is what we need. the Apollo program inspired the last generation of scientists, but all this generation has to look at are programs being shut down all around them. no more human space program, no more fermilab, no more vision of what humans can achieve.
@riceman1230 I'm with you on the lighter than air idea brother. Those mighty little rovers are evidence of the surprising reliability that can be achieved.
i think if you think about it, maybe not 20 or 50 years from now, maybe not even 100 years but eventually and definitely we're gonna need more land. consider that as humans become more advanced in medicine the human life span will increase and the population will then grow faster and faster. the only way to house and feed all these people is A) global population control (who knows what moral implications that would provide) B) find more land. seems simple enough to me. better now then later.
@Luper1billion Umm, the world population will begin to peak and then crash long before we need more land. Stewart Brand discusses it in another TED video.
If only super-developed countries like the US spent half as much money on fighting world hunger as they do on their space programs or military budgets...
While you're right that we really spend very little on humanitarian aid, I wouldn't lump space programs ($19B) and military budget into the same category ($720B).
Also, when you go through the budget, depending upon which line items you actually see as fighting world hunger (financial development support vs. direct food purchases), it actually may exceed half as much as the space program. So there.
Interplanetary missions cannot be yet financed and undertaken by private corporations and congress is always out to cut some "earmarks", which we call science, science education and technological innovation.
Kennedy could still do "those other things" next to putting a man on the moon.
I feel ya. It be awesome if we could help em get something like that started, so that thety could feed themselves and all. And what i said may sound nut's. But, thats just what i think would work the best. I may be wrong. What would work is if we as humans banded together to end poverty and work together to further our understanding of things and advance our selves to new heights. But, we're all to damn stubborn to co-exist with each other peacefully. Religion being the worst enemy, Racism 2nd.
@branboom If that was true, why wouldn't they pay for it voluntarily? In fact, we don't even know if they would, because they have always been forced to pay for the federal space programs. And let me refute the "they voted for it in a free election" argument. No, the people who _pay_ are not the same people who _vote_ . You must understand that a small minority, the people in the upper income levels, pay nearly all tax money. They represent only a small percentage of votes.
You can't just stop all research because we "could" use our money for "helping people". Plus with the current system, it would take centuries to have helped them all, e.g. africa, asia and south america as well.
this project costs pennies compared to our war budget and has a real return on investment, (war = 23% of our national budget, NASA is less than .5% (yes thats less than one half of one percent) we need to cut the war budget and boost the science budget.
but yes, I do agree that we need to beat poverty and et cetera.
@aSheeple You're absolutely right, and from what I've seen we can cut the war/defense budget by say 75%, and still out spend the rest of the world by about a factor of 3.
Then with all the extra money (something like $500 Billion) per YEAR, we can set up regular cruises to Mars. Right after we fix world hunger, poverty, and education; and then going on to get them electricity and clean water too. Then with the 2nd years surplus maybe even fix our OWN education and social security systems too.
@aSheeple Yes, because every other european noation who doesnt spend money on the military still lack anything close to Nasa, so clearly the only answere is stop spending money on the military, who told you that? some hippies?
sure there are nations that spend little on military and little on science but I dont see how thats relevant to how we in the US choose to spend our money.
assuming your talking about my claim about the national budget, no I didnt "hear that from hippies" I read the us federal budget summary, its available at whitehouse(dot)gov if you want to check it out. (cont.)
The third page of the 'summary tables section' is particularly enlightening. you can see on line 1 column 2 - tot security outlays (military spending) $844 B
Truly noble, and yes we should. However, an optimal overall plan should work towards solving current problems, prevent future problems, improving current conditions, and thinking for the future. ie, solve world hunger, cure AIDS, fight poverty, and get into space (respectively). If we don't start now, when? "Later" is procrastination. The time to act is now. So, we need to do these things you said, but we should also go to Mars or the moon again or start more space stations.
but its pretty much a waste of time exploring planets that there are no intelligent life-forms on just to compare it with earth. say we find some water and micro-organisms what the next stage?? do we all just say hurray yes indeed there is micro-organisms but we just wasted millions of pound that could have been put to earths use... lets go do the same on anotther dead planet, whilst people are starving down here. NOOO stop! its pointless and selfish serious!
Well that's one argument. I would say though, that the presence of life on Mars would show that life is somewhat common. If life can survive on the Red Planet it will widen our accepted view of where life can be found. Though I personally think Europa and Titian are more likely (And how cool would it be for life to be on Titian using liquid amino acids instead of water). It'll expand our understanding of life in the universe and who knows, maybe lead to cures.
@1994kman In general, people in the western world spend more on RINGTONES than they do on space programs and helping people. If it's a redistribution of wealth that you're after then you're barking up the wrong tree.
@aSheeple not just politicians. Both wars were very popular when they started. The problem is always with the stupid plebs not their few hundred puppets in Congress and the White House.
What I don't get is why scientists get so fixated on the idea of finding water and oxygen. They say that: If there is no water or oxygen, then "there is no life". But this is completely untrue!!!
Why are scientists so limited sometimes? Why can't there be life (even intelligent life) on planets without oxygen or water? They could breath helium, or something else! I don't get it.
Exactly. I mean humans can't fly through the sky right? Humans don't have wings like the birds do. You need wings to fly, it just makes sense. It's impossible otherwise.
Even the most brilliant of scientists are still human; close-minded and arrogant by nature.
@RenataVentura - I know, right? Probably what they mean is with no water or oxygen, there's no chance of supporting *human* life. Unless a planet is capable of supporting the interests of Earth monkeys, scientists will be hard-pressed to get funding for further exploration. *sigh*
Personally, I would be very much interested to know what sort of life is out there, regardless of water, oxygen, or carbon based-ness. And hopefully we won't blow each other up if we run into each other.
you do realize that NASA's budget is less then 1 percent of the total us budget. If your worried about wasted money, you should probably bitch about something else.
PS NASA and its research has made most of the major discoveries of the 20th and 21st century.
those before us have killed every other place to live this is it where all the last of everything every life is just the last thing human to germ its all the last earth is the arc
The talk was focused mainly on what we can find out on Mars ... I still don't think he explained the question why we need to go back to Mars? as in terms of why we need to spend so much money on it? .. If it's for ensuring the development of future STEM, then we might as well concentrate on the problems we having here right now (Energy, pollution, etc)
this is so amazing, i cant whait to see the results, what if life started on mars and then whe transported life to earth because of the danger and now we are under the same situation of having to go somewhere else..
What about Solar Powered Heilcopter like Cinncook 46 twin rotors for flight in Mars ??? Any Planes can't to land becauce soil are too soft or too rough.
NASA should focus on finding a way to pick up their own trash that is floating around Earth, and also new space shuttles are needed, same with a new Hubble. The Government is cutting their budget as the return value of their fansy projects is very small.
One would think that a blimp/dirigible mission would work better, last longer than an hour with the ability of flight and landing during the night, waiting for day solar heat and light for power. But I guess a jet plane for an hour is a decent start.
This wd be so inspirational if it worked...wonder how much speed they wash of wit those shutes. Cd also be the forerunner for a new type of lander for people...
it is likely that theatmosphere is light, but if a plane can fly in it i would think it would be possible for zeplin to work (but i really dont knw much about zeplings nor lift on mars, if someone cares to direct me to interesting litirature, it would be awesome)
but i agree with you seems a lot of fancy work for not much gain. KISS is often true (Keep it Simple Stupid) seems that there would be lots of opportunities to fail with this idea, but still kinda cool.
The plane here has to travel rather fast to create sufficient lift to stay in flight.
Heating atmospheric molecules to lift a zepplin would require hotter chemical fires (to agitate the air) than those used on earth to generate comparable levels of lift.
yes so one would just need a gas that is lighter then mars atmoshere.
i just think a plane that we cant control in real time is a poor idea, especially one with very limited flight time. we could keep a zeplin going for very very long time (at least in good conditions) with some solar power or hell if we are willing to send a plane why not a nuclear power cell?
they need to sent more perminant devices rather then some toys that would only last a few days.
For anybody talking with "ChristFavorsME," here's an 'educational' video for you :) (I wouldn't watch it at work though, unless you've got a really relaxed boss) /watch?v=_QyYaPWasos .
why bring it back? all we need are the transmission that will be sent from it through....space! but if you are really concerned about the plane I think humans will be on mars this century. ok
Ummm....they don't. Same as every other probe/lander. It'll do it's thing, send back the data (hopefully) and then when it's fuel has been expended, it'll crash.
@RonaldsSulcs They don't, they just leave it there, like they have with all the other probes so far. There's no point bringing it back, it sends all its data to Earth electronically.
the plane will never get back to earth at least in a few years, only the information will get back to earth, and the plane will most likely get back to earth when humans visit mars and pick it up again and bring it back with them..
..Well it may take a hundred years, or they may just one day set up a museum on Mars... But they won't be bringing it back any time soon, that's for sure.
They not gonna git the plane back to Earth. It's going to crash-land somewhere on Mars when it runs out of fuel. I don't know how long it can fly, maybe 6-12 hours or so? Its purpose is just to take abundant readings during that flight time and send it all back to Earth immediately.
it does not need to be sent beck to earth. as he says in the video the data it collects gets transmited back like every other lander that has been to mars.
I don't think they intend to. I believe their plan is to have the samples analyzed by the equipment aboard the craft. Or least that was my understanding of it.
It won't come back; it will just stay there forever unless we can send something back to get it at some point. But it would stay there like the rovers.
@jussts I'm not proposing that. I could tell the speaker mentioned the inspiration stuff to put in some practical reasons to better advertise his cause, though.
@jussts I was also intrigued that the question is why we NEED to go back to Mars, implying necessity. What kind of horrors will occur if we don't go to back Mars? Nothing gave, really. The speaker sort of cornered himself a little bit.
@geezwoman I expect this mission to cost a few hundred mln $. To put this number into perspective here's how much americans choose to spend on some things every year (data from 2003):
The funny thing about his joke "IT WAS ON A TUESDAY" is because Tuesday is called like that after TYR, the Germanic god of war, actually, Tuesday in Spanish, for example, is MARTES, the day of MARS, the Roman god of war. And the airplane he talks about is called ARES, the Greek god of war. (Damn, I'm a nerd!)
DerAnstifter 4 months ago
how will it be fueled? and how will it be controlled once in the atmosphere of mars, i love the idea of this project and i really think it should be pushed
OodlesOfDoodlesZOMG 1 year ago
go back to britania
elisei00 1 year ago
That's actually quite a big plane for what's effectively a space probe. Though I suppose it makes sence when you want something to fly in a not so dense atmosphere. You'll need all the help you can get.
It always saddens me how I see these great ideas and projects going on, & still only a small amount of money (in terms of a country's budget, whatever it may be) is ever invested in them. Perhaps we need someone like Carl Sagan to reinvigorate & stress the importance of science space travel
DeadWhiteButterflies 1 year ago
very interesting! I only have one question.. is the structure of the air at a 100.000 feet altitude on earth the same as the structure of air on 1 mile altitude on mars? He only told that the density is the same. But also is the structure of gases not important for flight performance?
p.s sorry for my english
yonieter 1 year ago
Why are days of the week so funny :P "It was a Tuesday"...
Pluvialis 1 year ago
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nasa is involved with human including child torture experiments mkultra,cathy obrien,duncan ofinioan,aaron mccollum,brice taylor and thousands women/children-no moral limits where scientific status/dictatorship greed is concerned,project paperclip allowed nazi docs were allowed to continue auswich experiments on usa own citizens-irish,scot,native indians,kidnapped children docs pay for-used and died in experiments- child pow s continue in nasa and underground military bases-learn,rescue children
lmollot 1 year ago
Why not send balloons? Lots and lots of little balloons.
clearmenser 1 year ago
Why not send a zeppelin?
TheShogunu 1 year ago
wait for some millions years for sun to get bigger and closer to mars and due to increase in temperature ,life will strt on mars.., in that time, we will have the capability to transport from earth to mars in few days and so the story ends..
Nature is preparing another planet for humans to live on...when we will wxhaust mars, step to jupitor...till the last planet(I consider Europa as last though its controversial..:D)
WavyMinds 1 year ago
@WavyMinds even if temperature went up you still have the gravity/magnetic field problem. Weak magnetic field and you are killed by radiation. No Earth-like gravity and you are killed by muscle loss. And we haven't even talked about the potential pathogenic threat from microbial life, if indeed exists.
sondano 1 year ago
@sondano yea but u might have also consider genetic engineering and mutationn development.. :) together thngs will settle I presume.. :)
WavyMinds 1 year ago
He contradicts himself saying there is no water on mars than saying there is.
krraa 1 year ago
@krraa he said thr is no "liquid" water...but thrz is frozen water,,and dry CO2 in northern hemisphere..
WavyMinds 1 year ago
@WavyMinds Ohh that's what he says? I didn't catch that, thanks for clarifying that up. I knew he couldn't have made such a mistake when talking in front of an audience like TED's.
krraa 1 year ago
amazing...THAT's why i want to be an aerospace engineer
Qasimbajwaa 1 year ago
@Qasimbajwaa Wow, what an awesome profession. Good luck (:
ticklemelia 1 year ago
Super! Tnx for this video!
Just a comm: I would combine ✈ & balloon
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Mars5OO 1 year ago
One question though, will this be powered by jet fuel? And if so, it won't be up in the "air" for long right?!
5233484 1 year ago
At 01:54 he says: Yes, the red planet is red. Immediately after that at 02:04 he shows a yellow mars hahaha
2014andBeyonD 1 year ago
Jet fuelled? Why wouldn't they make it solar powered with propellers, surely that would give it a longer life wouldn't it?
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
If you use rockets in an atmosphere if methane wont that be like farting onto a lighter flame?
wookster77 1 year ago
somebody phone Obama and tell him to start writing a check!!
tehKap0w 1 year ago
There is no valid reason to go to mars i'm sorry... Nice try though. We have a hard enough time trying to understand our own planet never mind one we can't live on. Yes science should be funded but put it into our own planet.
chvick 1 year ago
@chvick mars is our planet. who else would it belong to?
rileyo629 1 year ago
@rileyo629
Martians...
bigpotatofive 1 year ago
Subduction on Mars? lol
It's hard to digest, the assumption that Mars was covered in liquid H20. Odd that it's accepted as fact.
The presence of all that ice is amazing. And methane too! If they go to Mars, I hope they send a drill rig.
etzel33 1 year ago
The US must amp up the educational standards if they hope to produce the next generation of scientists to continue the legacy of the great country that used to be the United States.
HimmiJoe 1 year ago 8
@HimmiJoe its not about education standards, its about inspiration. inspired kids will push themselves to learn, raising testing standards makes kids hate school. if you want to inspire people, new, ambitious scientific exploration is what we need. the Apollo program inspired the last generation of scientists, but all this generation has to look at are programs being shut down all around them. no more human space program, no more fermilab, no more vision of what humans can achieve.
aSheeple 2 months ago
awesome
nicrochenov 1 year ago
We have liquid water, we have ice lol
dryan22 1 year ago 3
This is going to sound so horrible, but the title reminded me of Total Recall... "Get your ass back to Maaaas"
Ok, done... continue on.
timidgothica 1 year ago
that interesting fact he made that the mass of mars is equal to the land of earth cool learn something new every day.
AirwarriorX2 1 year ago
Why not use lighter than air craft? Then you could loiter around much longer than 1 hour!! Come on - 1 hour? Why bother?
Let's just send people there already.
riceman1230 1 year ago
@riceman1230 I'm with you on the lighter than air idea brother. Those mighty little rovers are evidence of the surprising reliability that can be achieved.
biggest23 1 year ago
hey, wright brotheres did not make the worlds first powered flight!
apart from that yeh i love this :)
quosmo1 1 year ago
inspirational indeed...
AlexFate101 1 year ago
ooooooh look at the plane! *sarcasm
Mtihc 1 year ago
Why can't we just get on with science instead of all this fighting? If you aren't interested in making the world a better place gtfo.
omegavalerius 1 year ago
sounds to me like you'd like The Venus Project.
HayteStreet 1 year ago
@HayteStreet
Well I regard the profit motive and the free market as good tools in achieving a better world so I don't know where I would fall with my opinions.
omegavalerius 1 year ago
i think if you think about it, maybe not 20 or 50 years from now, maybe not even 100 years but eventually and definitely we're gonna need more land. consider that as humans become more advanced in medicine the human life span will increase and the population will then grow faster and faster. the only way to house and feed all these people is A) global population control (who knows what moral implications that would provide) B) find more land. seems simple enough to me. better now then later.
Luper1billion 1 year ago
@Luper1billion Umm, the world population will begin to peak and then crash long before we need more land. Stewart Brand discusses it in another TED video.
sef789 1 year ago
@PainterofYou That's a complete strawman in every way, but at least you're kicking that strawman's ass. Good job!
blurglide 1 year ago
This is important for US security? WTF
macmalley 1 year ago
@macmalley ...he has to say that in order to get "American support" for this. ;)
jittendroloin 1 year ago
If only super-developed countries like the US spent half as much money on fighting world hunger as they do on their space programs or military budgets...
OscardelaParraE 1 year ago
@OcardelaParraE
While you're right that we really spend very little on humanitarian aid, I wouldn't lump space programs ($19B) and military budget into the same category ($720B).
Also, when you go through the budget, depending upon which line items you actually see as fighting world hunger (financial development support vs. direct food purchases), it actually may exceed half as much as the space program. So there.
HamiltonMadisonJay 1 year ago
Put a camera on it so that we can make a video and put it up on youtube :)
vlasevmovement 1 year ago
...yeah but whose paying?
Interplanetary missions cannot be yet financed and undertaken by private corporations and congress is always out to cut some "earmarks", which we call science, science education and technological innovation.
Kennedy could still do "those other things" next to putting a man on the moon.
hyperseauton 1 year ago
I feel ya. It be awesome if we could help em get something like that started, so that thety could feed themselves and all. And what i said may sound nut's. But, thats just what i think would work the best. I may be wrong. What would work is if we as humans banded together to end poverty and work together to further our understanding of things and advance our selves to new heights. But, we're all to damn stubborn to co-exist with each other peacefully. Religion being the worst enemy, Racism 2nd.
MrTrance420 1 year ago
design a way for the glider to slowly collect methane and re-launch itself once every year.... and I'll pooooop my pants!!!!
planetdarwin 1 year ago
@planetdarwin so thats supposed to motivate me?
T3rraBahamut 1 year ago
@T3rraBahamut
well, due to a genetic defect my feces is 20% gold nuggets, so maybe?
planetdarwin 1 year ago
why dont we use zero gravity propulsion technology?
delimuharrem 1 year ago
interesting. however shouldnt we be putting our money to better use i.e helping people, beating poverty etc
1994kman 1 year ago 2
Technology that comes from projects like this help improve the lives of people around the world.
branboom 1 year ago 26
@branboom Ok, I´ll bite. How so?
OscardelaParraE 1 year ago
@branboom If that was true, why wouldn't they pay for it voluntarily? In fact, we don't even know if they would, because they have always been forced to pay for the federal space programs. And let me refute the "they voted for it in a free election" argument. No, the people who _pay_ are not the same people who _vote_ . You must understand that a small minority, the people in the upper income levels, pay nearly all tax money. They represent only a small percentage of votes.
AlexanderLee1 11 months ago
@1994kman
You can't just stop all research because we "could" use our money for "helping people". Plus with the current system, it would take centuries to have helped them all, e.g. africa, asia and south america as well.
swiitzerland 1 year ago
this project costs pennies compared to our war budget and has a real return on investment, (war = 23% of our national budget, NASA is less than .5% (yes thats less than one half of one percent) we need to cut the war budget and boost the science budget.
but yes, I do agree that we need to beat poverty and et cetera.
aSheeple 1 year ago 81
@aSheeple You're absolutely right, and from what I've seen we can cut the war/defense budget by say 75%, and still out spend the rest of the world by about a factor of 3.
Then with all the extra money (something like $500 Billion) per YEAR, we can set up regular cruises to Mars. Right after we fix world hunger, poverty, and education; and then going on to get them electricity and clean water too. Then with the 2nd years surplus maybe even fix our OWN education and social security systems too.
Charlesincharge42 1 year ago 3
@aSheeple Yes, because every other european noation who doesnt spend money on the military still lack anything close to Nasa, so clearly the only answere is stop spending money on the military, who told you that? some hippies?
quezcatol 1 year ago
@quezcatol
sure there are nations that spend little on military and little on science but I dont see how thats relevant to how we in the US choose to spend our money.
assuming your talking about my claim about the national budget, no I didnt "hear that from hippies" I read the us federal budget summary, its available at whitehouse(dot)gov if you want to check it out. (cont.)
aSheeple 1 year ago
@quezcatol
The third page of the 'summary tables section' is particularly enlightening. you can see on line 1 column 2 - tot security outlays (military spending) $844 B
and on line 12 col 2 - total outlays $3,643 B
(Military spending) / (total spending) = .231 = 23%
easy peazy lemon squeezy
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple of those two, war is the one makking the least progress in beating poverty and et cetera.
spaik007 2 months ago
@1994kman
Truly noble, and yes we should. However, an optimal overall plan should work towards solving current problems, prevent future problems, improving current conditions, and thinking for the future. ie, solve world hunger, cure AIDS, fight poverty, and get into space (respectively). If we don't start now, when? "Later" is procrastination. The time to act is now. So, we need to do these things you said, but we should also go to Mars or the moon again or start more space stations.
PSK11489 1 year ago
Its so frustrating that there's like no public support for space exploration.
koren1124 1 year ago 3
but its pretty much a waste of time exploring planets that there are no intelligent life-forms on just to compare it with earth. say we find some water and micro-organisms what the next stage?? do we all just say hurray yes indeed there is micro-organisms but we just wasted millions of pound that could have been put to earths use... lets go do the same on anotther dead planet, whilst people are starving down here. NOOO stop! its pointless and selfish serious!
1994kman 1 year ago
@1994kman
Well that's one argument. I would say though, that the presence of life on Mars would show that life is somewhat common. If life can survive on the Red Planet it will widen our accepted view of where life can be found. Though I personally think Europa and Titian are more likely (And how cool would it be for life to be on Titian using liquid amino acids instead of water). It'll expand our understanding of life in the universe and who knows, maybe lead to cures.
koren1124 1 year ago
our people are starving down here because of the system, not because of lack of resources.
HayteStreet 1 year ago
@1994kman In general, people in the western world spend more on RINGTONES than they do on space programs and helping people. If it's a redistribution of wealth that you're after then you're barking up the wrong tree.
TornLoveNotes 1 year ago
@koren1124 because I'd rather watch the superbowl =)
alexmusic2909 1 year ago
@koren1124
I think theres public support for science, but apparently bombs and bullets are more important to the politicians who decide on the budget.
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple not just politicians. Both wars were very popular when they started. The problem is always with the stupid plebs not their few hundred puppets in Congress and the White House.
sondano 1 year ago
What I don't get is why scientists get so fixated on the idea of finding water and oxygen. They say that: If there is no water or oxygen, then "there is no life". But this is completely untrue!!!
Why are scientists so limited sometimes? Why can't there be life (even intelligent life) on planets without oxygen or water? They could breath helium, or something else! I don't get it.
RenataVentura 1 year ago 3
Exactly. I mean humans can't fly through the sky right? Humans don't have wings like the birds do. You need wings to fly, it just makes sense. It's impossible otherwise.
Even the most brilliant of scientists are still human; close-minded and arrogant by nature.
takigan 1 year ago
@RenataVentura - I know, right? Probably what they mean is with no water or oxygen, there's no chance of supporting *human* life. Unless a planet is capable of supporting the interests of Earth monkeys, scientists will be hard-pressed to get funding for further exploration. *sigh*
Personally, I would be very much interested to know what sort of life is out there, regardless of water, oxygen, or carbon based-ness. And hopefully we won't blow each other up if we run into each other.
brercrow 1 year ago
you do realize that NASA's budget is less then 1 percent of the total us budget. If your worried about wasted money, you should probably bitch about something else.
PS NASA and its research has made most of the major discoveries of the 20th and 21st century.
mote30 1 year ago
Helium superpressure balloons appear to make more sense, IMO.
tmtyler 1 year ago
That is absolutely mind blowing. The first terrestrial aircraft flown on Mars.
bluebeard2 1 year ago
It as a Tuesday.
FlyingSpaghetti171 1 year ago
maybe they can show us how to make a round wheel next week
dmagdaleno 1 year ago
they dont lol
TheLockdawg 1 year ago
Wow! I hope this project succeeds.
gunslinger7878 1 year ago
they should invite Robert Zubrin to speak about Mars.
theinsane102 1 year ago
Awesome project, they deserve all the support they can get.
franczazou 1 year ago
those before us have killed every other place to live this is it where all the last of everything every life is just the last thing human to germ its all the last earth is the arc
MiguelsChatBox 1 year ago
maybe we came from mars? just a thought
p6a9u1l42 1 year ago
or maybe, mars came from US!
mindblowing, I know.
Exestenz 1 year ago
?so why do we need to go back to mars ?
HAN2929 1 year ago
The talk was focused mainly on what we can find out on Mars ... I still don't think he explained the question why we need to go back to Mars? as in terms of why we need to spend so much money on it? .. If it's for ensuring the development of future STEM, then we might as well concentrate on the problems we having here right now (Energy, pollution, etc)
silverlining111 1 year ago
HUZZAH! This is bloody brilliant!
GO MARS PLANE!
JingleJoe 1 year ago
this is so amazing, i cant whait to see the results, what if life started on mars and then whe transported life to earth because of the danger and now we are under the same situation of having to go somewhere else..
leonelastengo 1 year ago
Me, I hope there ISN'T life on Mars.
Because that way it can be terraformed without any controversies in the future. (As soon as there's a somewhat better propulsion system to go there.)
Lets hope Mars is dead, then there won't be any discussions about native Martian life later.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
I really hope they get enough funding and really go through with this. Excellent talk.
thejakel11225 1 year ago
Or solar powered Quad heilcopter ????
john1966elliott 1 year ago
What about Solar Powered Heilcopter like Cinncook 46 twin rotors for flight in Mars ??? Any Planes can't to land becauce soil are too soft or too rough.
john1966elliott 1 year ago
NASA should focus on finding a way to pick up their own trash that is floating around Earth, and also new space shuttles are needed, same with a new Hubble. The Government is cutting their budget as the return value of their fansy projects is very small.
BGSoccerMagic 1 year ago
Once again, nasa proves to be full of bouffons, all this for just one hour flight of a plane that might crash?
Fool me for thinking that the rover spirit, a self sustaining robot working and sending data from another planet was a good idea already.
morfeo82 1 year ago
One would think that a blimp/dirigible mission would work better, last longer than an hour with the ability of flight and landing during the night, waiting for day solar heat and light for power. But I guess a jet plane for an hour is a decent start.
BowynAerrow 1 year ago
I am looking forward to space tourism... on mars.
mrmaciejm 1 year ago
God made Mars' surface magnitized.
DrQuijano 1 year ago
i hope it works
apache1234657 1 year ago
This wd be so inspirational if it worked...wonder how much speed they wash of wit those shutes. Cd also be the forerunner for a new type of lander for people...
kahnicles 1 year ago
I am impressed....
cinderellatlh 1 year ago
wouldnt it be easier to sand an zeplin or something like that, dont need to worry about crushing as much nor fuel needs?
seems over complicated.
Crazylalalalala 1 year ago
maybe the atmosphere is too light for balloons to work?
I think a plane is a cool idea, but 1 hour worth of flight doesn't seem worth the effort.
Surely it is better to wait a few years for technology to catch up. I imagine that propeller driven solar planes wouldn't work in mars' atmosphere.
There has to be a better way.
BinaryReader 1 year ago
@BinaryReader
it is likely that theatmosphere is light, but if a plane can fly in it i would think it would be possible for zeplin to work (but i really dont knw much about zeplings nor lift on mars, if someone cares to direct me to interesting litirature, it would be awesome)
but i agree with you seems a lot of fancy work for not much gain. KISS is often true (Keep it Simple Stupid) seems that there would be lots of opportunities to fail with this idea, but still kinda cool.
Crazylalalalala 1 year ago
The plane here has to travel rather fast to create sufficient lift to stay in flight.
Heating atmospheric molecules to lift a zepplin would require hotter chemical fires (to agitate the air) than those used on earth to generate comparable levels of lift.
Or so would seem logical to me.
abyssquick 1 year ago
@abyssquick
u dont need to heat anything for a zeplin just a gas lower in density, a zeplin is not a hot air balloon like you are implying.
in anycase im just saying that the plane thing seem too complex for little benefit.
Crazylalalalala 1 year ago
@Crazylalalalala - I knew there was something off (stupid) about my logic. I just didn't know it was that obvious. Thanks.
abyssquick 1 year ago
You need a heavy atmosphere for Zeppelins as well. They float because of the difference in density.
BaileysBeads 1 year ago
yes so one would just need a gas that is lighter then mars atmoshere.
i just think a plane that we cant control in real time is a poor idea, especially one with very limited flight time. we could keep a zeplin going for very very long time (at least in good conditions) with some solar power or hell if we are willing to send a plane why not a nuclear power cell?
they need to sent more perminant devices rather then some toys that would only last a few days.
Crazylalalalala 1 year ago
For anybody talking with "ChristFavorsME," here's an 'educational' video for you :) (I wouldn't watch it at work though, unless you've got a really relaxed boss) /watch?v=_QyYaPWasos .
someguyneedsanewname 1 year ago
nasa needs to be privatized.
sugarkang 1 year ago
one question. How they gonna get the plane back to the Earth?
RonaldsSulcs 1 year ago
why bring it back? all we need are the transmission that will be sent from it through....space! but if you are really concerned about the plane I think humans will be on mars this century. ok
JosephW99 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs
u dont need too. you can have the equipment necessary on it and transmit the needed information.
Crazylalalalala 1 year ago
They don't need to, the images/data will be transferred remotely to our earth.
Youanden 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs
It's just about getting the data they need. It would be too complicated/ expensive I reckon to get it back
ParaParagon 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs
I don't think they bring it back just the data is sent back.
hawlybawls 1 year ago
Ummm....they don't. Same as every other probe/lander. It'll do it's thing, send back the data (hopefully) and then when it's fuel has been expended, it'll crash.
killalmostwise 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs probably not at all.
Arudoloff 1 year ago
They fly it here.
DrQuijano 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs They don't, they just leave it there, like they have with all the other probes so far. There's no point bringing it back, it sends all its data to Earth electronically.
DrToonhattan 1 year ago
they aren't.
the plane dies there. it has all the instruments it needs on board, and when it runs out of juice, it dies on mars
De4sher 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs
eum?
Probably not, why?
klootzakisme 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs : They will not bring the plane back. It's like with the Rovers... once there, there forever!
rodrigofquinteiro 1 year ago
the plane will never get back to earth at least in a few years, only the information will get back to earth, and the plane will most likely get back to earth when humans visit mars and pick it up again and bring it back with them..
leonelastengo 1 year ago
They don't plan to.
Mrmoc7 1 year ago
A huge elastic band :)
JingleJoe 1 year ago
It doesn't come back.
maslada 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs
..Well it may take a hundred years, or they may just one day set up a museum on Mars... But they won't be bringing it back any time soon, that's for sure.
MRSketch09 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs They'll probably just leave it there.
takethestreetcarhome 1 year ago
they get the information from mars and they won't need the plane anymore
jetadebajo 1 year ago
they dont, it lands/crashs on mars after the rocket is all used up(1hr flight) and it transmits the data while in flight
dropinaduce 1 year ago
Why would they need to get the plane back to Earth?
CrashGames2108 1 year ago
they're not
ineffige 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs
They not gonna git the plane back to Earth. It's going to crash-land somewhere on Mars when it runs out of fuel. I don't know how long it can fly, maybe 6-12 hours or so? Its purpose is just to take abundant readings during that flight time and send it all back to Earth immediately.
jasonlajoie 1 year ago
They wont? Unmanned mission never come back.
Very cool Idea I hope they pop for this.
TheKturner05 1 year ago
it does not need to be sent beck to earth. as he says in the video the data it collects gets transmited back like every other lander that has been to mars.
spacecoke 1 year ago
they won't, after sending all the data it needs to collect, it sends it t earth, runs out of fuel, and crashes. thats it
Nocturnox65 1 year ago
what for? data from its instruments is the only important thing
fmonroyl 1 year ago
They won't. That would be unneccessary.
RobertMarx 1 year ago
they wont. it just sends info back.
alzlon 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs I'm pretty sure they leave it on mars once it runs out of fuel :-p
aditj84 1 year ago
I don't think they intend to. I believe their plan is to have the samples analyzed by the equipment aboard the craft. Or least that was my understanding of it.
Draknid 1 year ago
@RonaldsSulcs they are not sending it back, it will send the info in real time, after it will eventualy fall down?
alksin 1 year ago
same way they get rovers back, they don't
Hrel88 1 year ago
It won't come back; it will just stay there forever unless we can send something back to get it at some point. But it would stay there like the rovers.
Skullworld 1 year ago
Please tax me to carry out this mission.
UniversalBrother108 1 year ago 7
@UniversalBrother108 Better this mission than wars in the middle east.
takethestreetcarhome 1 year ago
@UniversalBrother108
Very funny comment.
As if you had a choice:P
jasonlajoie 1 year ago
this mission will cost the government less than funding all christian organisations for a year.
Nocturnox65 1 year ago
So the practical purpose for spending money on this is because it will probably inspire people. Hmmm...
geezwoman 1 year ago
@geezwoman
Because everything must have immediate practical applications or it's just not worth it... right?
jussts 1 year ago
@jussts I'm not proposing that. I could tell the speaker mentioned the inspiration stuff to put in some practical reasons to better advertise his cause, though.
geezwoman 1 year ago
@jussts I was also intrigued that the question is why we NEED to go back to Mars, implying necessity. What kind of horrors will occur if we don't go to back Mars? Nothing gave, really. The speaker sort of cornered himself a little bit.
geezwoman 1 year ago
@geezwoman I expect this mission to cost a few hundred mln $. To put this number into perspective here's how much americans choose to spend on some things every year (data from 2003):
Jacnas 1 year ago
Jacnas 1 year ago
@Jacnas gotta have them potato chips
Luper1billion 1 year ago
progress, that's what happens, otherwise we have no point rotting here on this planet for eternity
Nocturnox65 1 year ago
I want to throw money at these people so hard
Inferno41 1 year ago
I can't wait for the day when they discover life on mars :]
vanmaren962 1 year ago
You'd better be hoping for *microbial* life only.
For my part, I'm far more curious to see what just *might* be swimming around inside of the oceans of Europa or Ganymede.
ChristFavorsME 1 year ago
@ChristFavorsME .....no i was talking about a hidden civilization below the surface..............
vanmaren962 1 year ago
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vanmaren962 1 year ago
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