Probably the worst part of this is that since no prosecutions are allowed, there will be no way of knowing who did what. The suits against the telecom companies etal is the only way to subpeona info on exactly what happened and who was involved, Without these suits the information stays buried.
So what is Reid doing that's objectionable? If the majority of elected officials support a piece of legislation, that's the way representative democracy works. I think FISA amendments are awful, but using procedural methods to hold up legislation and thwart a vote is objectionable.
What is objectionable about this legistration is that it pardons phone companies for breaking the law and turning over records to the Bush administration without warrents. Anyone who breaks the law, be they goverment offical, business operation, or private citizen, must be held accountable. FISA would basically say that the phone companies can't be punished or sued for turning over records to the Nazi bastards...err, Bush administration.
Well, again, I agree that the legislation is awful. But if citizens don't like it, they should bring pressure to bear on their representatives. If proposed legislation has been passed out of committee, of course it should be brought to a vote. And, hopefully, defeated.
No to FISA, No to S1959, call your senators today, look what they did to those Indians in Malaysia, these bills will give them authority to do that to you
Hard to believe this guy was a marine! Such a wimp. I'am not exactly sure how the senate works but can someone like Dodd or Fiengold stand up a challenge him for that Senate Majority position?
harry reid is such a coward, he has folded on everything. he has immense power to just not put any of this neo-con agenda forward, yet time after time he gives bush what he wants.
the system is rigged, both parties are the same and only differ on social issues.
Six months ago, Gravel proposed the best way to end the war would be to wear out the senate by miring it in endless deliberation on the subject until the republicans gave in. The dems ignored his advice, and now, we see the opposite occuring: the republicans slowing the process down so much that it exhausts the democrats in to caving. I disagree with almost everything the republicans do, but they know how to get what they want.
Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are a nauseating example of ineffectiveness. They're enablers and foolish. Both need to retire -- they cave to Bush on everything.
Reid = Vichy Dem...You want to hasten the demise of the Police State? Create the conditions for REAL Democracy to emerge? Then ABANDON the Dems. THIRTY YEARS NOW--with Dem Majorites or not, in possession of the White House or not, they are PROFESSIONAL dive takers... The RW Judiciary didn't emerge overnight...
Really, if the Dems are gonna consistently cave-in, can't we get someone with more bravado than Reid? I felt like I was listening to Mr. Rogers ghost.
I get your point LOL but a cave In Artist with "Bravado" is no God D@mn different than one without.... I left the DP right after Pelosi announced Impeachment off the Table, then you find out she was bobble heading to Torture all along...It is morally unconscionable to perpetuate the Ruse the Democrats pursue....I will not ratify complicity in War Crimes for political opportunists..
I now say Let it collapse sooner,quicker and perhaps less painfully rather than the excruciating, piece by piece amputation of our Democracy...Let the GOP HAVE IT ALL. The Dems are furnishing it to them anyway..Wake the Hell up...The Vichy Dems are but a flak jacket for the facist GOP...
Who bribed the Dems? I can't believe they can possibly be this spineless. People of America, take back your country from the Democrats AND Republicans! We need a new George Washington.
Don't cave Harry
Tommigril 4 years ago
Probably the worst part of this is that since no prosecutions are allowed, there will be no way of knowing who did what. The suits against the telecom companies etal is the only way to subpeona info on exactly what happened and who was involved, Without these suits the information stays buried.
cdbdbsabzb 4 years ago
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Daily Kos are a bunch of COWARDS.
Their Blogs only allow UberLiberal points of view. Otherwise you are banned.
They have PAID BLOGGERS that are on all day so that they can insult or cxl the account of any person with a different point of view.
They Censor their blog of all but the most extreme views.
Every other blog that I am on allows for multiple points ov view.
Not them. They are phony liars who would do anything to hurt our country.
ajm9797 4 years ago
We have seen the enemy and it is Reid.
gondor124 4 years ago
So what is Reid doing that's objectionable? If the majority of elected officials support a piece of legislation, that's the way representative democracy works. I think FISA amendments are awful, but using procedural methods to hold up legislation and thwart a vote is objectionable.
fishhead06 4 years ago
What is objectionable about this legistration is that it pardons phone companies for breaking the law and turning over records to the Bush administration without warrents. Anyone who breaks the law, be they goverment offical, business operation, or private citizen, must be held accountable. FISA would basically say that the phone companies can't be punished or sued for turning over records to the Nazi bastards...err, Bush administration.
besnugg 4 years ago
Well, again, I agree that the legislation is awful. But if citizens don't like it, they should bring pressure to bear on their representatives. If proposed legislation has been passed out of committee, of course it should be brought to a vote. And, hopefully, defeated.
fishhead06 4 years ago
Feingold for majority leader.
simonineurope 4 years ago
Reid is a traitor, hypocrite, and a piss poor leader of the Senate. Time for a change. RON PAUL for PRESIDENT!
bbburton 4 years ago 2
This is the same party that presents Hillary and Obama as leaders, what a joke.
gopsmbass 4 years ago 2
what a coward. being him must be a non stop embarrassment.
cincimedes 4 years ago 4
No to FISA, No to S1959, call your senators today, look what they did to those Indians in Malaysia, these bills will give them authority to do that to you
ShiekYerbooty 4 years ago
Even the Dems see that Mr. Bush is right! The dems have really come along way since 2006!
RPcantwin 4 years ago
Hard to believe this guy was a marine! Such a wimp. I'am not exactly sure how the senate works but can someone like Dodd or Fiengold stand up a challenge him for that Senate Majority position?
cctaximan 4 years ago
harry reid is such a coward, he has folded on everything. he has immense power to just not put any of this neo-con agenda forward, yet time after time he gives bush what he wants.
the system is rigged, both parties are the same and only differ on social issues.
balomas69 4 years ago
Six months ago, Gravel proposed the best way to end the war would be to wear out the senate by miring it in endless deliberation on the subject until the republicans gave in. The dems ignored his advice, and now, we see the opposite occuring: the republicans slowing the process down so much that it exhausts the democrats in to caving. I disagree with almost everything the republicans do, but they know how to get what they want.
DamNationDiplomat 4 years ago
democrats are very weak, the 'leadership' turns on it's own senators and congressmen, just look what they did to kucinich
forex01 4 years ago 2
what ever happened to the "WE THE PEOPLE.." part of the deal? WHAT DA FUCK??!!!
MojoJuana 4 years ago
Your right. If we want real Democracy we need
to get rid of the Repuklicans that have given
away this country to the rich, and the
Demorats that are their enablers.
bigge525 4 years ago
Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are a nauseating example of ineffectiveness. They're enablers and foolish. Both need to retire -- they cave to Bush on everything.
Christopher0312 4 years ago 2
This man no longer serves the American People - he's a shill for Big Telecom.
Avidsh21 4 years ago 3
Reid = Vichy Dem...You want to hasten the demise of the Police State? Create the conditions for REAL Democracy to emerge? Then ABANDON the Dems. THIRTY YEARS NOW--with Dem Majorites or not, in possession of the White House or not, they are PROFESSIONAL dive takers... The RW Judiciary didn't emerge overnight...
BooHooHooMan 4 years ago
Really, if the Dems are gonna consistently cave-in, can't we get someone with more bravado than Reid? I felt like I was listening to Mr. Rogers ghost.
Musk 4 years ago 2
I get your point LOL but a cave In Artist with "Bravado" is no God D@mn different than one without.... I left the DP right after Pelosi announced Impeachment off the Table, then you find out she was bobble heading to Torture all along...It is morally unconscionable to perpetuate the Ruse the Democrats pursue....I will not ratify complicity in War Crimes for political opportunists..
BooHooHooMan 4 years ago
I now say Let it collapse sooner,quicker and perhaps less painfully rather than the excruciating, piece by piece amputation of our Democracy...Let the GOP HAVE IT ALL. The Dems are furnishing it to them anyway..Wake the Hell up...The Vichy Dems are but a flak jacket for the facist GOP...
BooHooHooMan 4 years ago
Who bribed the Dems? I can't believe they can possibly be this spineless. People of America, take back your country from the Democrats AND Republicans! We need a new George Washington.
ashrakay 4 years ago
You are useless Harry Reid. Just like the "majority" that you supposedly represent.
eddiwardo 4 years ago
a crook. plain and simple. turns out he was a crook all along.
quicksite 4 years ago
Its not a issue of Reid either being a incompetent boob or totally corrupt.
He is clearly both.
Remove this hack from Majority Leadership as he is clearly unfit for this crucial position.
erkd1 4 years ago
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Since when did WARRANTLESS become... LEGAL?
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maxx1000 4 years ago
since 1776,
Warrantless is only permissible when a warrant is sought after. In most cases, no warrants were sought at all.
nkdmansam 4 years ago
ignore first line of comment
nkdmansam 4 years ago
No, you MUST get a warrant to spy on or search a US citizen. Thats the law. Period.
In the case of FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE collection, you may conduct a search before but then you must gain a warrant afterwards.
Thats why is very aptly called "Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act" (FISA)
erkd1 4 years ago
He's as useless as fucking droopy dog. Seniority as a qualification of leadership is a national disgrace.
REID HAS TO GO.
wsmfp 4 years ago 2
Instead of Senate Majority Leader, he sounds like some kid that hasn't done his homework. Pathetic!
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