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  • Annie agrees it was the pimp who caused it, but says that the pimp was demon-influenced. She says that only God can influence us to do good things. If she continues down that road, she is, ultimately, arguing that we do not have free will. "Perception is the ultimate reality, but not necessarily the ultimate truth." Brilliant!

  • What annie is talking about @1:02 is ego, pride and what she was feeling was not demons but she was oppressing herself because of her shame and guilt resulting from her actions.. See, when you lable your ego as a demon you are transferring the responsibility onto something that you cant conquer or overcome..

  • Feel Sorry for the ex-prostitute, they should not involve her in the conversation so much though, she is way too emotional, closed minded, vulnerable. of-course she believes its all real for her and I cant blame her, glad she got out of it.

    But truth is truth

    "Faith and Ignorance" are the real DEVIL of the people on earth. Instead of using their brains they rely on emotions combined with past on beliefs from their ancestors, and BS continues for generations. What a shame

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  • I agree with pearson a lot in that we can't blame everything on satan, our own nature is what makes us sin a lot of the time. What I don't agree with is his dismissal of Satan completely and the fact that he thinks we can save ourselves. The whole point of christianity is that we can't save ourselves

  • ok i chaged my mind about the hooker, once you have supernatural experiences, that kind of cuts the bullshit that you hear everyday

  • @QuentonB123 nevermind, i agree with some stuff but she goes off on other stuff and contradicts herself, cant take her side

  • This whole debate is full of shit

  • Centuries ago this woman would've been burned as a witch by her own church.

  • @Hektor7788 Not just Annie but many mainstream young women that hit the clubs would be burned.

  • For a truth to be a truth, it needs to be appliable anywhere in the world in any culture, any moment of any century and to anybody. Now wether one decides to accept it's the truth or not doesn't change the fact that it's the truth. Mr. Pearson says to change the things you look at you need to change the way you look at things... Say that to an african child starving to death. Really. The Bible contains what anything anyone, anywhere needs. Jesus is the answer. His love is undefeated. Praise God!

  • Carlton Pearson doesn't have a firm faith in any thing any more when it comes to the things of God. He comes across as so prideful after once being part of the Christian ministry. Saying all the things he once did and trying to prove he was once part of the faith. His doubt was probably eating him up over a number of years, and that doubt just ruined his faith in the bible and now he has a new version of "God". He needs prayer from us badly. What the bible says is true. He doubts that.

  • that prostitute is still suffering from trauma, my semen can help.

  • ya'll needa understand that all this...."science" iz...CREATION....WHY DO PEOPLE PONDER ON CREATION INSTEAD OF THE CREATOR.....

  • She sure BELIEVES alot, but where are the facts.

  • and the devil and his army and god and his army for the most part what you to join sides and want to influence you,and with god he is for the most part, what do you expect hes god, he wants to save you.

  • They don't work on your time they work on there own time there not obligated to do anything they have absolute freewill just like we do..and the same thing with god and his arch angels and angels but with them its quite different, exactly absolutely different..and I'm not generalizing but most of you atheists seem to have no morale standard at all..whenever a christian says anything you are rude and attack..Christians for the most part don't do that but atheists seem very well known for that.

  • if you listen to her there is no free will either "i believe that our mind have bad and positiv and negativ impolses but its allways by a source that is influencing us wether its good or evil either its god or the devil" i believe that makes her an atomaton

    It can either be the manifestation of energy of the devil and his army of arch demons and demons or it can be just be you and you alone, The thing with the devil and his army is they influence you when they fell like it .

  • Christians do believe that people have original sin, it was caused by the Fall in the Garden by Adam and Woman, both made in the image of God, YHWH. We believe that this sin was caused by willfull disobedience to God's covenant with Adam in the Garden(Hosea 6:7). God no longer shines His face on mankind the way He used to before the Fall. Yet, God had other plans. Her allowed the Fall in the Garden to happen. He also announced the first Gospel message before He displaced Adam and his wife.

  • All you gotta do to see the devil is be a hooker? Awesome!

  • so this horny slut didn't decided to become a whore of her own free will, it was the devil who did it?

    easy! So easy to solve problems, the devil made me do it! I didn't steal the money from that bank, the devil amde me do it. I didn't murder that convent of nuns, the devil made me do it....

  • @ccheng21 They like to blame everything on an imaginary creature, instead of accepting their own faults.

    In one word, insecurity.

  • @ccheng21 man, its so easy, and it must feel so good to attack christians, doesnt it ? sad..............

  • @sesamestreetsquad yes, because Christians, like all theists are irrational fools who believe in magic, not science or truth.

  • Deepak Chopra is NOT a Freethinker. He's a New Age snake oil salesman.

  • @KaraRvn You are a fucking MORON. Oh, sorry, that was my rational, logical brain talking there. Anyway, I believe in fairy tales too! Yay!!

  • @MrMeatballs1945 Umm, what?

  • "Perception is the Ultimate Reality , but not the Ultimate Truth" Great Words!!

  • if you listen to her there is no free will either "i believe that our mind have bad and positiv and negativ impolses but its allways by a source that is influencing us wether its good or evil either its god or the devil" i believe that makes her an atomaton

  • chick is dumb.ever hear about an athiest bieng possed by the devil?of course not,only christians get possesed,pretty useless protection lol

  • When will people learn to take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming/thanking an outside/mythical source? It's all excuses and insecurity to me. If I do good, it's because I am a good person, i help people to help people, not to please something that may or may not be there. If i do bad, i made the decision myself. There was no voice, whispers, or influence for me making bad decisions but my own rational, logical (sometimes) thinking.

  • Satisfying answer to Annie at 6:40

  • well if the pimp was influenced by the devil then he doesn't have free will. why does he have to be influenced by any one?

  • Their addressing the wrong issue. No one can give undeniable evidence that the Devil or demons exist, they probably do exist but do they control your actions or do our mind's ignorance control them?

  • Never understood why they represent the devil as a goat , his is the greatest excuse people have come up with for all the fucked up shit that they do , -hence the scape goat.

  • I am amazed that she presents selfishness as a way for demons to be present in people, yet there is not a moment in her rants that she doesnt make this entire concept about herself. In a debate format there is no need to make it about us, its about Jesus. She was'nt prepared for this debate, you gotta have facts. Not personal stories.. they teach nothing but emotion and feeling.

  • now she is saved? after sukin and fukin 1000 cocks?? please she got rich out of the proceess.

  • NBC should rename this show "Circle of clowns"

    None of these people have even the faintest clue what they're talking about. They've shrouded their ability to reason in so much superstition and dogma that they are nearly incoherent. Especially the two on the left.

  • God that bitch is so fucking stupid. Someone put her out of her misery before her idiocy rubs off on someone else.

  • "If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at,...Change!

    I LOVE Carlton, He is a VERY insightful human!

  • this woman is so friggen stupid unbelievable o_O she is a psycho

  • I find it funny when people can't take responsibility for themselves. Annie was molested and raped at an early age and sex was part of her life through out that time, from there she CHOSE the life of a hooker, no demeans chose it for her. Her story of demeans is "pulling her down" is a story in a time when she was taking drugs, drinking, and having constant sex..you can damn well but the brain is going to be a little distorted from all these behaviors.

  • The guy on the right is awesome. He's right on.

  • Or a lot of both.

  • Excellent last few minutes on this section. Out of nowhere.

  • "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

  • @ DJ

    Valid point DJ. I did check out her website and she is trying to a lot to make this world a better place.

  • To everyone making fun of this women why don't you go to her website and see what see is all about. She is helping women and children who are being exploited. Why would you ridicule someone like that??

    Hookers for Jesus is an international, faith-based organization that is committed to abolishing modern day slavery--the realities of human sex trafficking, sexual violence, and exploitation linked to pornography and the commercial sex industry.

  • @djwaynes I have met Annie in real life, i respect what she does and i admire her for coming out of the situation that she was in and taking charge of her life. However, she went from one extreme to another. Just because your life is really bad doesn't mean you need to replace it with all kinds of evidence lacking beliefs, superstitions, and biblical prophecy.. She is doing something good with the Jesus for hookers, but also doing something bad by giving a shade to the fundamental believers.

  • This is hilarious. What a bunch of lunatics.

  • Our interpretations become our realities.

    What happens just happens, when we attach a negative interpretation to reality we live through that negativity.

  • The woman is sick. She needs help. The real help not from the christianity or Islam but from the real doctor, psychologist or something. She keeps blaming evil or Satan for what she experienced. She cannot solve her problem that way. I hope that she gets better soon overcoming Christian idea or muslim idea about evil.

  • Why do you capitalize Christian? and Satan? But not Muslim?

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  • The woman is hallucinating. I hope she gets over the problem of evil. I just feel sorry for what she experienced though I disagree with what she says about Satan.

  • How can anyone take a person seriously after they plainly atate that they were gang raped by black demons!?!?!?!?!

  • Basically because she is stating the exact same things that the Bible affirms and that MANY people know to be true. Jesus always used the lowly and the 'lower' people in society to prove his point. She has a greater spirit than everyone on stage.

  • Many people know that big black demons will come in the night and butt fuck you with their massive hell dong's?!?!?!?! I'm sorry but she is a fruit cake!! Oh and the Bible makes NO reference to violent demon sex'n.

  • At 5:34 Annie is making an assumption that her experience itself makes it real. It can only be real to her because you can make things real over time. That is what Morpheus was explaining to Neo in the Matrix: "How do you define real?" Then he told him later the Matrix makes it real. That is due to electric impulses sent to the brain.

  • Her explanation is rehearsed

  • so are all our explanations. cos we think about what we believe before we say it. whats wrong with that...?

  • What you believe may be a delusion though. It may be wrong. That is the whole point.

  • Yep for any christian who is finding it hard to believe anything more than what they have ever believed or been told to believe, at the bare minimum listen to the black guy he has been there and understands both sides of what we imagine is a fence between someone like mark and deepak. As for the lady, she is just a new christian and is saying what has been told to her. Mark is a good guy but like most christians is sticking to his guns as hes working from a limited source of references

  • The Black Preacher is the best debater on that stage.

  • Actually he's an idiot. He twists more things than I care to talk about.

  • she was doing a great job till she brought up being 'raped by deamons' i mean, if she really feels that way, she may be corrcect but theres so many other factors like drugs and abuse, and lack of oxygen, but overall, i agree with her cuz the devil is real.

  • I don't think Annie was the right person to team with Driscoll.

  • This is so frustrating. The Christians (Mark & Annie) make some good points but they aren't acknowledging that man can sin just fine without the devil influencing them. They need to address the doctrine of original sin, the flesh. That's why this discussion is at a standstill.

  • @Jimbo3783 Are you Christadelphian?

  • @Jimbo3783 That is so true jimbo, If there is a demon or devil then why is that preachers rape/steal/murder/ and rob people blind? Remember Jim Jones, just drink this kool aid and you will be with jesus... yeah, right, and then christians say, "They have the truth and will be able to live forever while everyone else gets blown up by god" Its a joke, If god existed he would love anyone despite whatever faith they believe. I think the illuminati created the world religions to make people weak.

  • @Jimbo3783 No they don't really have to in this debate because it pertains to Satan's existence, not the existence of evil. The doctrine of original sin doesn't support Satan's existence. It supports the existence of evil.

  • @Jimbo3783

    I am with you all the way. There is a lot missing from this debate...and that girl has literally no clue what she is talking about. It's embarrassing to have her up there representing Christianity. They are forgetting James 1:14 "but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed."

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  • annie scares me

  • i would have beleived the white preacher and the ex hooker when i was five but now I want to know why, why a book, why. the indian guy makes so much sense, the bishop make alot of sense too. to be great is to be misunderstood- emerson!

    everyone loves the white preacher but all he can say is what is in a book, theres nothing better then the human mind becuase god created it.

  • This woman is speaking nonsense. She has no logical basis for what she says, she's just giving an interpretation of her life experience. It's interesting, but why believe it? It all comes back to the Bible and whether it is accurate, in whole or in part. That's the starting ground, and then once that is established, accounts such as hers can be considered.

  • HA1L S8AN

  • ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!......is that sylvia brown?

  • they need better christian debaters

  • false mark driscoll is amazing.

  • Driscoll is an amazing preacher!

  • This is the most ridiculous debate I have ever seen. If dateline truly wanted to get the answer they should have selected four people who know what they were talking about.

  • You know, I feel sorry for the Hooker. She must of had a really hard life in order to find her self beliving that evil it self was working against her.

  • Satan exist.

    i didnt believe it myself, but i have seen them (demons) and the demonic powers will steal kill and destroy you.

    its crazy to believe it i know, but its even crazier not to believe it.

    think about it.

  • Consciousness IS the operating system of the Universe!!! Perception is the true reality. The universe and god are within as well as anything you want to believe.

  • Wow!... And I thought the planet was evolving from it's Archaic belif systems and ideas...but this woman is showing not only her vulnerability, but her ignorance on the issue of the self. I feel bad for Deepak to have to listen to her and the preacher who clearly belive that the prime mover is anything but the self, which means...anything bad in my life blame on Satan...anything good that's where god comes in...what about being responsible for whatever YOU manifest into your own life???

  • well said :)

  • @drumfreak08 you are responsible....satan is just there to amplify it

  • a demon is not telling you shit!!! it is you who is telling you.its sad that people are actually clapping for this dummy

  • Guess and die friends.

    Guess and die.

  • That's the devil for ya.. Agree with you, then try to discredit God's word

  • 6:14

    Deepak is ready to go home and do some kama-sutra with his wife. He's sick of hearing a hooker preach at him about the flying spaghetti monster.

  • deepak is a fake dude.

    the blonde girl is telling the fckin truth.

  • ROFL!!

  • ive been in the hospital because i have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, which is a brain chemical imbalance and been on the same floor as people with other afflictions like pyschosis, bipolar, skizophrenia, borderline. much of the time people who have BorderlinePD have been abused as children. she may have a mental disorder.

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  • "I can relate to her a thousand percent!" <-- lol

  • I don't know what to believe anymore... :(

    all 4 make sense

  • many things can be belivable because of good speaking or a crafty tongue but to be bless you have to have confidence in what is good. love is good. God is love. he loves you, and the more you lose confidence in yourself and replace it with confidence in your savior the more he can trust you. that is when he will be your lord. and that is when you will have peace.

  • Thanks for that. I think just focusing on God and His love, you don't even need to fear the devil or evil. Thats how I've gotten by these ast few years. If hell exists I sincerely don't think I'll end up there, purely because I've dedicated my life to God and thats whats important.

    Thanks for your advice

  • God has not given us a spirit of feear but of power love and a sound mind, Jesus already carried the burden of our sin, there is no reason to keep carrying it around. Forgiveness is free to him who accepts unconditional love that he cannot see.

  • This "Bishop" who is a so-called "exorcist" has no idea what the hell demonic possession is.

  • This hooker is absolutly retarded.

  • one of her johns' baby batter was infected with demons.

  • wait deepak just said "we have demonic impulses" and he doesnt believe in demons.

  • I would love to know how much money she took from her Christian johns and the wives they left behind. She is just a guilty person folks she just wants to dump her guilt on anyone except for on herself..

  • There is only One way that demons can be cast out. In the Name of Jesus Christ and by his power. The words Pearson say are nothing, the tribal dances and postions are usless, only Jesus Christ can cast out demons

  • Yes a person that never hear of Jesus be saved?

    Romans 1:18-23.

    The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

  • I actually find myself agreeing with certain aspects of all 4 of these arguements....

  • the hooker has no good aspects. and the white pastor is full of bullshit too. failure, man.

  • This black peacher is a wolf.

  • lol. The bible does talk about him. Phillippians 3:2 "Beware of dogs"

  • She is telling the truth.

  • She should become a porno star, all that she is good for

  • She's like me. We cant do anything by ourselves. We need God to do stuff thro us

  • If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change... wow, I need to write that one down. =]

  • Somebody needs to read the book " He came to set the captives free" enough said.

  • that book is full of bullshit.

  • Deepak Chopra and Bishop Carlton Pearson both make excellent points about Annie Lobert's experience. Ritual for many people can be therapeutic. It is almost like a placebo effect. If you think you are taking medication that helps, it, in many cases, does help. The ritual is that antidote that helps get people out of their current state of mind. The real issue is when that individual's ritual is used as a cure for all. People who don't believe in Christ will need their own different ritual.

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  • My demons tell me to feed the poor, help all the needy, and not to cause suffering.

  • it actually hurts, to listen to this chick,....

  • I wonder if her demon told her to get that horrible bleach job on her hair.

  • lmao!

  • 90% of prostitutes were raped as children- most of the time by family members. So before you rip her apart try and wonder if it was her father that took away her virginity or her uncle. Or maybe a cousin.

    She's just telling her personal story- one that is long and painful and many of us will never experience evil like that.

  • @sirTittytwister they should have picked somebody else to represent christians, she keeps talking about demons.. the demons did this.. the demons did that...

    How about you wake of from your dream!!

  • Repent ,for the kingdom of heaven is at hand Matthew 3:2 PERIOD!!!

  • 2000 years ago, jesus said he would be right back (crickets chirping)

  • I wish I was in this debate, this girl has obviously made too many mistakes to recover from the fact that she's experienced a figment of her own imagination.

  • Where's Christopher Hitchens when you need him.........

  • Carlton Pearson, spent too much time in dominational church! or voodoo.

    who is he preaching for?

    Sad, the ex-prostitute and athiest are better at knowing the truth than the so called ministers. God is waiting

  • Mrpickles and lytonio, GET A LIFE!!! Cause you obviously don't have one!

  • Deepak Chopra can be seen hear very clearly doing the Devels work..

  • what's the devels work?

    oh, do you mean Satin? Satins work?

  • I didn't know a type of cloth could do work...

  • Please tell me this chick likes anal!! I have masturbated to this video no less than 8 times!!

  • Gods whore is a nutcase

  • Religion is fueled by ego. Either one feels that answers and explanations about creation and purpose are necessary in order for their own conscious (as they know it) to remain sane, and/or one simply rejects their own mortality. Both feelings are selfish and egotistic. Birth does not entitle anything. People become religious because they feel entitled to a self-existence (within their current capacity of consciousness) that they themselves approve of. Religion helps people; it doesnt win debates

  • A religion whose founder said "If anyone would follow me he must deny himself," and who lived his entire life homeless and destitute en route to an agonizing death, and knew about the death beforehand is based on ego? A religion which produces a code of conduct that is in conflict with human nature, and which requires service to a God who is by his own account incomprehensible, is constructed ad hoc by people in response to their own problems? It strains credulity.

  • the first minute sounds like a 4000bc fairy tale explanation of sickness and disiese.

    Yet she sits in the year 2009 and believes to be fact. Pure emotion and ignorence.

    Love all ppl but damn some of them.

  • That bishop is a faithless preacher.

  • that girl needs serious help... and she needs it from someone who is going to give better advice than "read this 2000 year old book"

  • WTF is this shit, cud there be a more pointless subject than this? yes on par would be a disscussion about the smerfs living in farthing wood with Badger!!!!! this video/ talk was a waste of every bodys time and shows how fucked up people are with their sense of LOGIC. this video could be a visual dictionary article for the word INSANE.

  • 3:53 "The Hooker: I have dozens."

  • The shit that blond girl said does scare me and it's her belief system that created her delusions. What if she see's some innocent child and believes it's a demon and kills it? What then? She is sick and needs professional help NOT a religion that fuels the fires of her delusion. I know thousands of Christians and NONE of them have EVER seen demons...

  • that doesn't mean other christians might never see them

  • that bitch is damaged fucking goods

  • i think the blond girl opened the puzzle cube and the cenobites raped her. you can see she is still living in fear

  • This show is proof that there is something fundamentally wrong in our society. After seeing that woman talk her BS there should a 1000 psychiatrists who watched this all coming together to sign a petition to have her removed from the general population and put in an insane asylum. She clearly doesn't posses the mental stability to make rational decisions.

  • As a society we should a ll petition to get that delusional woman the help she so desperately needs. Imagine if she has kids. That wasn't a nightmare my little child you were raped by demons now go back to sleep and watch out for the devil or he'll rape you too.

  • Am I the only one turned on by the demons holding her down fucking her?

  • hey everyone, can we all not criticize other peoples beliefs. If those of you who bag on christianity gain some type of sick satisfaction from this act, i think you should rethink your life...and what is it about christianity that you find so threatining, is it the fear of the unknown or the fear that christians may actually be right and you don't know how to obtain what they have. Think about that for a while

  • I find Christianity threatening because it is a horrifying dogmatic religion which lauds murder, slaughter, racism, destruction, pillage, and all manner of other things. I fear Christianity because it wishes to take over the world. I fear Christianity because it HATES. I fear Christianity because it loves its ignorance as one loves their parents.

    I do NOT fear death, life is worrisome, death is nothing to fear.

    You have NOTHING that I don't have, so don't be so presumptive

  • Since when does Chrisianity "laud" murder, slaughter and all of those other things, the 6th commandment says...Thou Shall not kill...racism is never lauded by the bible, but by individual people. Jesus never condones destruction or pillage. Although in the old testament it is spoken of although it is never praised. Christians don't hate, they love....And i am sorry to say that i do have something you don't have. I have jesus in my life. don't be so ignorant and hateful...two things you call me.

  • christian dumbass bullshit , FUCK ME.

    2009 people , 20000000099999!

  • She still looks like a whore? Why is nobody bringing up the fact that people who use meth, get sleep deprived and see weird shit?

  • Because it was SATAN!!! EVIL, EVIL SATAN! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

  • Praise God for speaking through Pastor Driscoll! Lord I have heard of your fame; I stand in awe of your deeds, O Lord... in wrath remember mercy. Habakuk 3:1

  • I WOULD BUTT SEX HER LOL

  • at 1:00 why don't these demons say that to Buddhists? or Jainist? Some of the most peaceful people in the world and they also don't believe in Jesus. Some believe in god but some don't. Why don't these devils attack them, why is it these devils only attack the western world?

  • Also how does she explain hookers who don't get raped by demons. The thing is I know many people who are not Christians and I know many who are. I see good and bad happening to them all. I know Christians whose lives are SHIT and some of my non-believers lives are pretty damn good. The deal is I don't see any difference in the lives of Christians compared to non-believers. They live, die, and experience the good and bad in life... that's it... simple.

  • Because we're stupid!

  • THE STUPID!!!!

    IT BURNS!!!!!

  • I feel sorry for people who only have faith in what works. The Bible teaches us through history that it is by faith in what is unseen that God works. It is a contradiction in our natural way of thinking and overcoming that is precisely what God requires for salvation to be appropriated through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus.

  • I think the crack rock went to her brain.

    do-do-do-do do-do-do-do.........

  • if i change the way i look at things the thing i look at change