im really glad glenn beck is off the air. He really is a dangerous man, and shouldnt be allowed to speak his mind. Only hate will come if people like beck and rush are allowed to say what they want
@gaara508 Beck's still on the air. There's also no violence suggested by him, supported by him, or condoned by him. I have also seen no evidence of violence incited by him
@TheKus it would make very little sense for him to just support violence lol that's not the american way. He is more subtle then that, you are probably a stable person but in the minds of others he infects them with a deep hatred and paranoia of Obama. If you can't see it you seriously need to look a little harder.
This guy who hosts the tyt is absolutely retarded and frankly I'd love to see a debate between him and beck cuz beck would fuck him up this guy defends and sides with self admitted communists Wtf is up with that when did communists and socialists become the good guys this world is more fucked than ppl know if ppl believe the garbage this young turk fag spews...oh and if he loves America why is his show called the young Turks which by the way is fucking terrible
@kbuds1 Thats precious. Beck would fuck up this guy....socialism...wtf..communism.....fag.....fucked up.......loves America......fucking terrible. If you dont mind I'm not going to take your word that Beck would beat Cenk in a debate. You are too stupid to believe.
@Jeffersonwazright hahahah here comes the peronal attacks. you must be on cenks jock right defending this puke its ok your just another commie or leftist or marxist or socialist its to be expected but nothing changes what ive stated its you can argue all day against the truth but at the end of the day its still THE TRUTH
TYT Claims Beck lies and simply laughs at the accusations of Marxist Gurrilla, BUT you Mother F er, is it true?????!!!! No, you don't really dig in like a news guy should. You posture just like Van Jones acting all "Barney like" treating Marxism like a benign thing. What a joke people are like this TYT guy, evil lurks behind those who don't expose the truth when they are titled to DIG the F into whether the Beck accusations were true or false. I''m waiting for you to correct him TYT guy!
Rep. Rangel noted that he was “very surprised” at the West's words,” but “he doesn’t come from the political party that can talk about plantations and that type of thing.” What? Meaning only Democrats own blacks? It's time the Republican party stopped saying "all people" and let blacks know that "all" includes BLACKS. What's good for the country, is good for blacks..and all other minorities for that matter.
Cenk, YOU are a liar. You can't stand the truth. Van Jones IS a comminust. As are most of Obama's administration. They love Marx, Mao and all the evil and wickedness that comminusm brings. Glenn is standing up for America. A foreign country to you.
@Hughganaught and YOU love Ayn Rand, who loves killing little girls. See, anyone can just blurt out attacks and lies without actually going fact by fact. You are a brainless moron, prove me wrong.
@Hughganaught Marx believed in everyone working to improve community life and Mao was a dictator who murdered people for disagreeing with him so please don't throw their names around as if they are the same kind of person
@megeles Everybody but him. Karl Marx was a miserable eletist who was born rich and died poor. Mao was a murderous dictator just like Fiedel Castro, Joeshop Stalin, Lennin, Hugo Chavez and others I see a lot os simularities in this administration.
You're delusional. Glenn cares about his money and ratings and will say and do whatever it takes to stay ontop. He and people like him don't give a damn about the country - patriotism just sells.
@RepublicAgent It is liberals like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton who lie all the time about almost evrything. It liberals who lack empathy. They care only about themselves. Clintion was constantly late and kept people waiting. Obama is out on the golf course all the time. No, Glen Beck is a good man and is telling the truth.
@Hughganaught Liberals lack caring? So fucking what! people that like the GOP are evil fuckers who want God in everyones life. Liberals care about the truth not some idiot that loves to make up shit so they can go on about there sister fucking redneck life and get fucked but it is ok because there puppet loves GOD. wake the fuck up nobody in government gives a shit about the american people or what we want.
@carnypimp Obama cares only about himself. He's a liar, a bully and a thug. Woe to thase wh enact wickedness through stature. Aborticide, soddomy and socalism. Fearing God is the beginning of wisdom. Fear he that can take your life plus your soul. He is sending down floods, fires, earthquakes and hurricanes. Economic collapse and civil unrest. These are acts of God and he is displeased at our behavior.
@Hughganaught Since im agnostic I believe the same thing I call it mother nature instead of God. When people treat it bad it fights back. Nature is my Lord.
@Hughganaught Global warming can not be tamed. We pissed the Lord off so we are getting what we deserve. No government regulation can prevent global warming.
@Hughganaught Global warming is not fake science proves you and Fox News wrong. I like Ron Paul he said we all can help the environment out of the goodness of our heart. We don't need government to make us do it.
@carnypimp No YOU are wrong, Global warming is a myth. Global warming is a scam. Global warming was invented to SWINDLE the American people out of their money, and properity rights by taking them away.
@Hughganaught Government has stolen property since the country started. If you own a home you have to pay uncle sam or it is gone. If they want a military base or anything they can take your property period. The governmnet has always been a bully. Global warming has been proven. I understand where you are coming from all the environmental regulations are bs, they are because if you pay enough you don't have to go by them. The EPA is pointless because it can be bought by rich crooks.
@carnypimp Excuse me? Eminiment domain and properity tax hasn't always been the case. They are implimented by evil liberal government. Global warming IS aSCAM and the EPA is evil becausse it enforces a pagan earthworshiping religon on us.
@Hughganaught No religion period should be in government christian, pagan, or whatever. The law of the land is to be seperate from the law of God. Blame it on the liberals as much as you like even though for the last 35 years have been dominatly republican. It is both sides that are screwing the american people.
@carnypimp How do you do that? You can seperate church from state, but not government from religon. Government is religous by nature. Just what laws do you enforce? Comminust? Sharia? Common law? All are relgous in their foundation. Enviromental laws are religous in nature. Hate crimes laws target conservative christians and nobody else. How is that fair?
@carnypimp Israel is jewish and it is also socalists. Israel is a very unfriendly place for Christians. Better if America returnes to it's Christian common law roots. Everyone dose not have to be a christian, but the laws do. Non-belivers would find their properity pr otected under equal protection under the law. A Christian principle.
@carnypimp Israel is jewish and it is also socalists. Israel is a very unfriendly place for Christians. Better if America returnes to it's Christian common law roots. Everyone dose not have to be a christian, but the laws do. Non-belivers would find their properity protected under equal protection under the law. A Christian principle.
@RepublicAgent What's delusional is beliveing in the wicked idology of Marxism. Marxizm fails all the time, every time. Van Jones is a thug. As is our president and his entire adiminstration..
Van Jones is a self avowed Communist. watch?v=RXd3nZhlJNU . watch?v=LzQb42A1Nqs The next few decades will determine whether the Human Species is a locust species that will scour this planet to the bones…” . “Need change on a revolutionary scale to survive as a species.” . watch?v=bgKr480RYc4. Obama's Former Green Jobs Czar and Communist, Van Jones Admits Left is 'PRETENDING' Need for Regulations in Green Movement
@YouJussGotCurbed Obama and the Democrats are turning the US into a socialist utopia. When the president of the United States lets a self described Marxist into his administration is a CLEAR sign what the Obama administration and many other influences outside the US are trying to do.
Palin says that we should not be afraid of people like him, but instead quietly sedate him before placing him on the cleansing pyre to burn all that nasty icky non-christianness out of him
The Soviet Union was run by the communist party.When one party,or one leader runs a country its called a dictatorship,not a form of anarchism.
Because anarchy means with out laws or rules.The communist party did have rules and laws,just like the nazi party & fascist party (stupid rules,but rules non the less),wich will make them non-anarchist countries.
My parents lived in a communist country and they would have to dissagree with your statement.
The soviet union was run by a communist party - and this is exactly why the Soviet Union was not communist. You are 100% correct that it was a dictatorship - but it was not communist. Just because a country calls itself communist, does not make it so. Congo calls itself a "democratic republic" - but its not. You are missing the point.
Marx very famously said that when the workers assume control of the means of production, the state will "wither away" and classes will cease
As soon as the soviet union became a "communist state" it ceased to be communist. I 100% agree that it was a dictatorship, and that prolly your parents lives sucked when they lived under a "communist state." but that, as described by marx, is not communism.
p.s that last sentence is an appeal to authority, for your future reference.
@spinner883 You cant take Marxes views to littelary!
Thats like the Bible.If you follow it to the letter,you woud have to kill anybody who's gay,eats shellfish,or wears clothes that are made from different materials.People who dont do crazy stuff like that still call them selfs Christians,they just live a more moderate life.By your defenition they would have to call themselfs something other than Christians.
And my parents lifes didnt suck,.They had moore freedom as workers than today.
1) I don't really understand what the fuck this conversation is about but ill try to respond. Especially since you pull a red herring with the Christian reference.
2) Except the fact that a stateless/classless society is a very big factor of Marx's theory. Its not a small bit. I don't understand why you can't take his views... literally? My whole point, of the original post, was some guy sayiing that "anarcho-communism" was an oxymoron and me telling him he's wrong.
@spinner883 1.How can you not understand that i used Christianity as my point to explain how radical views dont work,be they religios beliefs or political beliefs.
2.Stateless and classless societys are not a form of anarchy,because there are still going to be rules and laws introduced by some form of authority (like the tribes do when they listen to the village elder).Humans always need leaders,thats in our genes.
Thats why i was defending that persons oxymoronic view
A village with a tribal elder is not a state. And no humans don't need to live in a class based society - for about 95% of our existence (pre-agricultural revolution), we lived in very egalitarian soceities. In fact, the Massai, Inuits, !Kung - they still live like that.
This we need leaders is not set in stone - Peter Kroptkins "Mutual Aid" debunked that myth like a Century ago - he was also an anarchist. You are looking at things through today's dominant discourse
Many people would actually consider those, who you have described, as not christian. Me, I am an atheist, so i don't really give a fuck.
As for you parents life's sucking - I don't know which "communist state" they lived in and you also said they use to live under a dictatorship - I can't imagine that was a good thing. Even still, "communist states" as we have seen in history, tend to be state capitalism - factories, while state owned, a run like capitalist factories.
@spinner883 Why would some people consider those people not as Christans?
So let me get this straight,muslim extremist crashed plains into buildings to kill infidels,like its says in the Koran.They are true muslims because they are radical,but those one billion muslims who just take the good part of the Koran and live their life peacfully,they are not muslim.
Im atheist too and i dont believe in that shit,but i just used that to explain how radical political or religious views are stupid.
@torca1950ancola They would not consider them christians because the Bible is really not that moderate...moderate christianity or liberal christianity is a modern day transformation of religion. Look up Sam Harris, "God is not moderate"
Marx calls for a stateless society. You can be more moderate than that (lets say a state socialist or state-welfare society) and thats fine as well - I was saying what Marx says. Your opinion is irrelevant - one can live how they want, but there is a definition!
and we should take Marx literally to some extent - otherwise, we have people who use his name for that of their bastardization his theory. They aren't "moderate marxists" - they are just something else.
@spinner883 Thats why you dont take Marxes views on how society should be literally.His biggest contribution is the protection of workers and thats why people like his theory.
My parents lived in Yugoslavia.Wich was a communist dictatorship,but that all changed when Tito after the student riots wrote the constitution,that protected the people from communist purges and gave moore freedom to the press.It was still runned by one party and one man,but the constitution made it better to live in.
But actually, that's not what Marx said and this is one of the biggest misconceptions about Marx's writings - he wasn't for class warfare/class consciousness so much as he was for historical consciousness. Marx realized the constraints that capital put on the CAPITALIST class, as much as the working class - how they are forced to use more and more of their surplus value to invest and keep their expanding business alive. Read the 1844 manuscripts again - human emancipation!
and another reason why your analogy is dubious. Marx wrote Kapital. We don't really know whot the fuck wrote the Bible. This isn't an argument about whether or not communism is moral or whether or not it is right, but what Marx said. You keep telling me not to take him literally - but what my opinion on the possiblity of Communism is another topic. In the original post, I simply was stating what Marx wrote and meant - not whether it is good or possible.
@spinner883 Anarchy dosent last long.The term originated from ancient Rome,when there were fighting for who is going to be the next ruler.When the armies were fighting,there was nobody to inforce the laws of Rome.Anarchy only stoped when common sense prevailed and when another ruler was in power.
In the comment that people need leaders i didnt ment that he had to be physical.He could be spiritual (like a god,or spirits of your ancestors).Just wanted to correct myself on that one.
if you have a state, then you don't have classlessness and thus, you don't have communism. end of argument. Whether or not this is good/moral, is another argument.
@spinner883 You just proven my point in your third comment.You said that communisam is with out state & classes,and that makes it a form of anarchy.But the Massai are not a state & dont have classes,but we still dont call their simple society an anarchy.
If one Massai kills another he would be receiving punishment for his deed,because they still have laws & rules and anarchy is with out both.That was the bases for your whole argument.
The massai defintely fall into the defintion of an anarchist group. They don't have a top-down state telling them what to do - they socially monitor themselves. Thats what anarchism is. That is what is meant by Marx and the anarchist movement. Anarchism isn't some kind of neo-hobbsian world - you have no idea wtf you are talking about.
@spinner883 anarchism has no lead, they dont socially monitor themselves anarchist do whatever they want when ever they want, thats what anarchist do, if you think otherwise get a dictionary, look up the word
Cool I will say it again. Prodhoun, Benjamin Tucker, Kroptkin, Bakunin. Kroptkin, one of the most famous Anarchists of all time, wrote a book called Mutual Aid, with the thesis being that organisms tend to be quite cooperative until having a top down, hierarchial system put on them (i.e capitalism, which relies on the State to maintain private property of capital).
@Dufis38 A few more things, since you don't know wtf you are talking about.
Benjamin Tucker on anarchy - "not neccesarily abscence of order, as is generally supposed, but an abscence of rule."
Comes from the greek word "anarchos" - meaning without government. Not without social order.
They do socially monitor themselves - if not, one person would dominate the others and then there would not be anarchy, but the same hierarchial notion they are rebelling against..
@spinner883 1.No rules and laws is what anarchy is all about.
2.massai are not anarchist
3.Christians are discriminating Atheists,but because there are laws,you can sue them for discrimination
4,im not going argue on a Glenn Beck video anymoore,because he likes to drop words that sound scary to scare his viewers and listeners (he once called Obama a muslim and attacked his following of rev. Wrights in the same sentece.So he is a muslim/christian-thats a first)
@spinner883 I love laws & rules and im not an anarchist.They are there to protect people who cant protect them selfs.Me and you being atheists are a minority.Imagine what the religious people would do to us if we didnt have laws to protect us.
First they would discriminate us,then we wouldent get the same opportunity in education and jobs as them,then lastly they would burn us at the stake if we dont accept their belifs as our own.
Yes they are crazy that way.And yes the Bible is bullshit too.
@StirItUP1973 Actually traditional Communism was stateless, but when Beck talks about Communism he's talking about the Soviet perversion of it. So yeah, he's still a retard.
@StirItUP1973 Religious...Atheist. Hmm....Welll....If you we're trying to compare two opposites as I'm sure you were, than you failed. You failed miserably, might I add. What is it to be "religious?" Can you honestly answer that? I can, and will. To be religious simply means to have faith in something, be it a set of values and morals, a deity, or even your self-established reality. To be an atheist denies the existence of a deity. So....that leaves you with two choices to "follow religiously."
fuck you mother fucker ..yuo mother fuckers amercans ..the fuckn 9/11 is not islamic the mother fucker bush have dumb ass .. plan to destory the islamic world ..
ok fuck you you will tech me how to speak and you shit not know ...why the priest want to Burn holy book...i ask why ..muslims not doing so agaist anther religions ...but oly the you people why.. i ask why ... .... this is politiical issue not religion issue .....
The direct medical cost of obesity and indirect economic loss to obesity has been estimated to be as high as $51.64 billion and $99.2 billion in 1995, respectively this rose to $61 billion and $117 billion in 2000. Researchers for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
obesity-related medical problems, including type II diabetes, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and disability- "Statistics Related to Overweight and Obesity". CDC
You're talking about a report which claimed 45% of them would be covered in just 4 months after the report was made. 2004 and 2005 have come and gone. The number of uninsured has gone up to nearly 50 million as of 2010 according to the CDC.
@kim8040 - Yes they have as the CDC report is from 2010. Your report is from 2004 and claimed the situation would change in just 4 months from that month in 2004. So the CDC report takes place AFTER whatever change took place took effect.
@kim8040 - 2004 is old news. The number of uninsured has increased since then and the 4 months have passed since the report claimed the number of uninsured would decrease by 45%.
@kim8040 - None legit workers? What is that supposed to mean?
Anyway, insurers have guidelines. Not just anyone can "buy" insurance. There is such thing as "preexisting conditions" and "prudent patient responsibility". People who don't meet that are not eligible for coverage.
The majority of Americans want the Public Option. Gibbs is not the American public. I love how you believe he represents us all though, which means we all must be Democrats. Lol
"How about buying across state line ? Ending Needless lawsuits ?"
The CBO said that wouldn't do much and wouldn't save much money. They also said it would do next to nothing to bring down costs. Just allow them to move to low-regulation states and charge high rates.
(D) had all the power they wanted to pass anything - they could have done it - where is it ? Maybe it was a bad idea - Public and what they want is not always the best thing - Out leaders have to do the right thing
@kim8040 - Alan Grayson put it on the floor as the Public Option Act. It is up for being voted on.
"Public and what they want is not always the best thing"
So now you've gone from using Argument From Popularity and saying "America rejected it!" to not caring what the public thinks when the majority disagrees with you and comparing Americans to Germans who voted for Hitler.
Keep running around and backpeddling. Now you've invoked Godwin's Law.
I love how you've gone from saying "America rejects you!" to comparing citizens to Nazi Germany now that you can't rebut the fact they actually disagree with you.
"i think he's a dangerous guy"...thats about where this guys loses credibility
PsionSoul 1 week ago
Marxist Gorilla?
timmg3 2 weeks ago
im really glad glenn beck is off the air. He really is a dangerous man, and shouldnt be allowed to speak his mind. Only hate will come if people like beck and rush are allowed to say what they want
gaara508 1 month ago
@gaara508 Beck's still on the air. There's also no violence suggested by him, supported by him, or condoned by him. I have also seen no evidence of violence incited by him
TheKus 3 weeks ago
@TheKus it would make very little sense for him to just support violence lol that's not the american way. He is more subtle then that, you are probably a stable person but in the minds of others he infects them with a deep hatred and paranoia of Obama. If you can't see it you seriously need to look a little harder.
HillsideKlepht 1 week ago
what a joke you are...Glen is a bigger Man then you will ever be.....and the race thing is gone in this country except from people like YOU!
AmberDMcClure 1 month ago
Isn't Beck soon gonna be involved in that whole gold scandal bait and switch scam that is about to hit the airwaves? That should be interesting.
SeanMBryans 3 months ago
You're a freaking knuckle head.
Joez86 4 months ago
This guy who hosts the tyt is absolutely retarded and frankly I'd love to see a debate between him and beck cuz beck would fuck him up this guy defends and sides with self admitted communists Wtf is up with that when did communists and socialists become the good guys this world is more fucked than ppl know if ppl believe the garbage this young turk fag spews...oh and if he loves America why is his show called the young Turks which by the way is fucking terrible
kbuds1 4 months ago
@kbuds1 You sound like you are 16, angry, and ran out of pot. Sorry bro, Beck has been terminated. :[ You can always get more pot though.
DexxterMorgan 4 months ago
@kbuds1 Thats precious. Beck would fuck up this guy....socialism...wtf..communism.....fag.....fucked up.......loves America......fucking terrible. If you dont mind I'm not going to take your word that Beck would beat Cenk in a debate. You are too stupid to believe.
Jeffersonwazright 3 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright hahahah here comes the peronal attacks. you must be on cenks jock right defending this puke its ok your just another commie or leftist or marxist or socialist its to be expected but nothing changes what ive stated its you can argue all day against the truth but at the end of the day its still THE TRUTH
kbuds1 3 months ago
Glenn Beck is a fraud.
MrJohnnyrace 4 months ago
TYT Claims Beck lies and simply laughs at the accusations of Marxist Gurrilla, BUT you Mother F er, is it true?????!!!! No, you don't really dig in like a news guy should. You posture just like Van Jones acting all "Barney like" treating Marxism like a benign thing. What a joke people are like this TYT guy, evil lurks behind those who don't expose the truth when they are titled to DIG the F into whether the Beck accusations were true or false. I''m waiting for you to correct him TYT guy!
brother234 5 months ago
RADICAL RADICAL
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Rep. Rangel noted that he was “very surprised” at the West's words,” but “he doesn’t come from the political party that can talk about plantations and that type of thing.” What? Meaning only Democrats own blacks? It's time the Republican party stopped saying "all people" and let blacks know that "all" includes BLACKS. What's good for the country, is good for blacks..and all other minorities for that matter.
vechorik 5 months ago
This is all getting very romantic
Groth1175 7 months ago
i can't even stand to listen to that fruitcake's voice
PersephoneSwimming 7 months ago
Cenk, YOU are a liar. You can't stand the truth. Van Jones IS a comminust. As are most of Obama's administration. They love Marx, Mao and all the evil and wickedness that comminusm brings. Glenn is standing up for America. A foreign country to you.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught and YOU love Ayn Rand, who loves killing little girls. See, anyone can just blurt out attacks and lies without actually going fact by fact. You are a brainless moron, prove me wrong.
Teremei 7 months ago
@Teremei I know Mr Cenk's opinion on a lot of issues and he is wrong all the time, everytime.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught - thank you for your nuanced, well considered, intelligently expressed opinion..
frokenstein 7 months ago
@Teremei - Well said. One tip, however: don't waste too much of your time debating this jackass.
frokenstein 7 months ago
@Hughganaught Marx believed in everyone working to improve community life and Mao was a dictator who murdered people for disagreeing with him so please don't throw their names around as if they are the same kind of person
megeles 7 months ago
@megeles Everybody but him. Karl Marx was a miserable eletist who was born rich and died poor. Mao was a murderous dictator just like Fiedel Castro, Joeshop Stalin, Lennin, Hugo Chavez and others I see a lot os simularities in this administration.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught
You're delusional. Glenn cares about his money and ratings and will say and do whatever it takes to stay ontop. He and people like him don't give a damn about the country - patriotism just sells.
RepublicAgent 7 months ago 5
@RepublicAgent It is liberals like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton who lie all the time about almost evrything. It liberals who lack empathy. They care only about themselves. Clintion was constantly late and kept people waiting. Obama is out on the golf course all the time. No, Glen Beck is a good man and is telling the truth.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught Liberals lack caring? So fucking what! people that like the GOP are evil fuckers who want God in everyones life. Liberals care about the truth not some idiot that loves to make up shit so they can go on about there sister fucking redneck life and get fucked but it is ok because there puppet loves GOD. wake the fuck up nobody in government gives a shit about the american people or what we want.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp Obama cares only about himself. He's a liar, a bully and a thug. Woe to thase wh enact wickedness through stature. Aborticide, soddomy and socalism. Fearing God is the beginning of wisdom. Fear he that can take your life plus your soul. He is sending down floods, fires, earthquakes and hurricanes. Economic collapse and civil unrest. These are acts of God and he is displeased at our behavior.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught Since im agnostic I believe the same thing I call it mother nature instead of God. When people treat it bad it fights back. Nature is my Lord.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp As in global warming? It is a scam. a lie. Your soultion is to limit my freedom. Mine is for us to repent.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught Global warming can not be tamed. We pissed the Lord off so we are getting what we deserve. No government regulation can prevent global warming.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp Not by repenting of our fossel fuel consumption, and lifestyle, but our sin of sodomy, abortacide, covetness, and idolotry.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught Global warming is not fake science proves you and Fox News wrong. I like Ron Paul he said we all can help the environment out of the goodness of our heart. We don't need government to make us do it.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp No YOU are wrong, Global warming is a myth. Global warming is a scam. Global warming was invented to SWINDLE the American people out of their money, and properity rights by taking them away.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught Government has stolen property since the country started. If you own a home you have to pay uncle sam or it is gone. If they want a military base or anything they can take your property period. The governmnet has always been a bully. Global warming has been proven. I understand where you are coming from all the environmental regulations are bs, they are because if you pay enough you don't have to go by them. The EPA is pointless because it can be bought by rich crooks.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp Excuse me? Eminiment domain and properity tax hasn't always been the case. They are implimented by evil liberal government. Global warming IS aSCAM and the EPA is evil becausse it enforces a pagan earthworshiping religon on us.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught No religion period should be in government christian, pagan, or whatever. The law of the land is to be seperate from the law of God. Blame it on the liberals as much as you like even though for the last 35 years have been dominatly republican. It is both sides that are screwing the american people.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp How do you do that? You can seperate church from state, but not government from religon. Government is religous by nature. Just what laws do you enforce? Comminust? Sharia? Common law? All are relgous in their foundation. Enviromental laws are religous in nature. Hate crimes laws target conservative christians and nobody else. How is that fair?
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught It never is fair.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp Under Christin common lw, we had more perfict union.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught Yeah if we lived in a country that was all christian wich we do not. I suggest you think about moving to Isreal.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@carnypimp Israel is jewish and it is also socalists. Israel is a very unfriendly place for Christians. Better if America returnes to it's Christian common law roots. Everyone dose not have to be a christian, but the laws do. Non-belivers would find their properity pr otected under equal protection under the law. A Christian principle.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@carnypimp Israel is jewish and it is also socalists. Israel is a very unfriendly place for Christians. Better if America returnes to it's Christian common law roots. Everyone dose not have to be a christian, but the laws do. Non-belivers would find their properity protected under equal protection under the law. A Christian principle.
Hughganaught 7 months ago
@Hughganaught I like that part.
carnypimp 7 months ago
@RepublicAgent What's delusional is beliveing in the wicked idology of Marxism. Marxizm fails all the time, every time. Van Jones is a thug. As is our president and his entire adiminstration..
Hughganaught 7 months ago
lol Barney
britneyslut 7 months ago
Since when facts are hate and franklly this jerk who is just another beck hater needs to focus on facts and not their emotions
joeldewitt 8 months ago
Van has a future in ACTUAL POLITICS
Glenn has a future in ACTUAL car shows and lectures at fake schools like Liberty U and Bob Jones.
beesleeper 9 months ago
Twilightifyable 10 months ago
Young turks swallow, van jones blows and Obama does both
klst56 11 months ago 2
actually beck, he was a marxist communist democrat who is also a republican liberal
24xEBK 11 months ago
I like Van Jones ,, I wonder if obama would sell this nigger to me?
ekajeht 11 months ago
Who switched YOUR BRAIN of?
Arche2012 11 months ago
van jones is a racist/commie/conspiracy theorist!
ashken79 11 months ago
BUM NIGGER !
sandhogy 1 year ago
Van Jones is as crazy as Obamas minister.
howardthecoward07 1 year ago
Van Jones is a self described Marxist (bit{dot}ly/4Zko3R), those are his words not Beck's.
Van Jones is a 9/11 truther (bit{dot}ly/Itu9A)
Van Jones supported cop killers (bit{dot}ly/2oQwgE)
These are not crazy conspiracies, these are well documented facts.
WayyTooEasy 1 year ago
@WayyTooEasy comment fail i love when republicans talk about facts the irony is off the charts
YouJussGotCurbed 1 year ago
@YouJussGotCurbed Obama and the Democrats are turning the US into a socialist utopia. When the president of the United States lets a self described Marxist into his administration is a CLEAR sign what the Obama administration and many other influences outside the US are trying to do.
WayyTooEasy 1 year ago
TYT is just another socialist lftist group. Are you guys really turkish? The Rajput beat you guys in battle every time! Glenn Beck rules!
artislife271 1 year ago
I have to disagree with Cenk on this. I love glenn beck. He's fucking amazing. 100% classic material.
Squee505 1 year ago
@Squee505 fuck beck somebody should burn the book of moron in front of him
doox420 1 year ago
Glenn Beck is a piece of shit, we need to tar and feather him.
Chaz2096 1 year ago
Omg! @0:48 he says he's not a Christian!!!
Palin says that we should not be afraid of people like him, but instead quietly sedate him before placing him on the cleansing pyre to burn all that nasty icky non-christianness out of him
neverfearchrisishere 1 year ago
Don't do anything that might help some black people ever because that's reparations... so it's be a communist or racist.
drzendoom 1 year ago
Cent: Once a video rolls, please shut up.
MLP88 1 year ago
The young jerks maybe :*)
joeldewitt 1 year ago
fagget
jimbob1234567 1 year ago
Jones maybe a nut, but there is nothing wrong with cop watch.
defiythelie 1 year ago
Communist Anarchist...
Well that totally makes sense.
HEY GLENN! I'M A RELIGIOUS ATHEIST!
StirItUP1973 1 year ago 25
@StirItUP1973
Communism is a form of anarchism you fucking idiot. It is a stateless society, no debate. Soviet Union was not communist
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 No its not!
The Soviet Union was run by the communist party.When one party,or one leader runs a country its called a dictatorship,not a form of anarchism.
Because anarchy means with out laws or rules.The communist party did have rules and laws,just like the nazi party & fascist party (stupid rules,but rules non the less),wich will make them non-anarchist countries.
My parents lived in a communist country and they would have to dissagree with your statement.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
The soviet union was run by a communist party - and this is exactly why the Soviet Union was not communist. You are 100% correct that it was a dictatorship - but it was not communist. Just because a country calls itself communist, does not make it so. Congo calls itself a "democratic republic" - but its not. You are missing the point.
Marx very famously said that when the workers assume control of the means of production, the state will "wither away" and classes will cease
spinner883 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
As soon as the soviet union became a "communist state" it ceased to be communist. I 100% agree that it was a dictatorship, and that prolly your parents lives sucked when they lived under a "communist state." but that, as described by marx, is not communism.
p.s that last sentence is an appeal to authority, for your future reference.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 You cant take Marxes views to littelary!
Thats like the Bible.If you follow it to the letter,you woud have to kill anybody who's gay,eats shellfish,or wears clothes that are made from different materials.People who dont do crazy stuff like that still call them selfs Christians,they just live a more moderate life.By your defenition they would have to call themselfs something other than Christians.
And my parents lifes didnt suck,.They had moore freedom as workers than today.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
1) I don't really understand what the fuck this conversation is about but ill try to respond. Especially since you pull a red herring with the Christian reference.
2) Except the fact that a stateless/classless society is a very big factor of Marx's theory. Its not a small bit. I don't understand why you can't take his views... literally? My whole point, of the original post, was some guy sayiing that "anarcho-communism" was an oxymoron and me telling him he's wrong.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 1.How can you not understand that i used Christianity as my point to explain how radical views dont work,be they religios beliefs or political beliefs.
2.Stateless and classless societys are not a form of anarchy,because there are still going to be rules and laws introduced by some form of authority (like the tribes do when they listen to the village elder).Humans always need leaders,thats in our genes.
Thats why i was defending that persons oxymoronic view
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
A village with a tribal elder is not a state. And no humans don't need to live in a class based society - for about 95% of our existence (pre-agricultural revolution), we lived in very egalitarian soceities. In fact, the Massai, Inuits, !Kung - they still live like that.
This we need leaders is not set in stone - Peter Kroptkins "Mutual Aid" debunked that myth like a Century ago - he was also an anarchist. You are looking at things through today's dominant discourse
spinner883 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
Many people would actually consider those, who you have described, as not christian. Me, I am an atheist, so i don't really give a fuck.
As for you parents life's sucking - I don't know which "communist state" they lived in and you also said they use to live under a dictatorship - I can't imagine that was a good thing. Even still, "communist states" as we have seen in history, tend to be state capitalism - factories, while state owned, a run like capitalist factories.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 Why would some people consider those people not as Christans?
So let me get this straight,muslim extremist crashed plains into buildings to kill infidels,like its says in the Koran.They are true muslims because they are radical,but those one billion muslims who just take the good part of the Koran and live their life peacfully,they are not muslim.
Im atheist too and i dont believe in that shit,but i just used that to explain how radical political or religious views are stupid.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola They would not consider them christians because the Bible is really not that moderate...moderate christianity or liberal christianity is a modern day transformation of religion. Look up Sam Harris, "God is not moderate"
Marx calls for a stateless society. You can be more moderate than that (lets say a state socialist or state-welfare society) and thats fine as well - I was saying what Marx says. Your opinion is irrelevant - one can live how they want, but there is a definition!
spinner883 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
and we should take Marx literally to some extent - otherwise, we have people who use his name for that of their bastardization his theory. They aren't "moderate marxists" - they are just something else.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 Thats why you dont take Marxes views on how society should be literally.His biggest contribution is the protection of workers and thats why people like his theory.
My parents lived in Yugoslavia.Wich was a communist dictatorship,but that all changed when Tito after the student riots wrote the constitution,that protected the people from communist purges and gave moore freedom to the press.It was still runned by one party and one man,but the constitution made it better to live in.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
But actually, that's not what Marx said and this is one of the biggest misconceptions about Marx's writings - he wasn't for class warfare/class consciousness so much as he was for historical consciousness. Marx realized the constraints that capital put on the CAPITALIST class, as much as the working class - how they are forced to use more and more of their surplus value to invest and keep their expanding business alive. Read the 1844 manuscripts again - human emancipation!
spinner883 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
and another reason why your analogy is dubious. Marx wrote Kapital. We don't really know whot the fuck wrote the Bible. This isn't an argument about whether or not communism is moral or whether or not it is right, but what Marx said. You keep telling me not to take him literally - but what my opinion on the possiblity of Communism is another topic. In the original post, I simply was stating what Marx wrote and meant - not whether it is good or possible.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 Anarchy dosent last long.The term originated from ancient Rome,when there were fighting for who is going to be the next ruler.When the armies were fighting,there was nobody to inforce the laws of Rome.Anarchy only stoped when common sense prevailed and when another ruler was in power.
In the comment that people need leaders i didnt ment that he had to be physical.He could be spiritual (like a god,or spirits of your ancestors).Just wanted to correct myself on that one.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
cool
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 And your cool too :D
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
if you have a state, then you don't have classlessness and thus, you don't have communism. end of argument. Whether or not this is good/moral, is another argument.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 You just proven my point in your third comment.You said that communisam is with out state & classes,and that makes it a form of anarchy.But the Massai are not a state & dont have classes,but we still dont call their simple society an anarchy.
If one Massai kills another he would be receiving punishment for his deed,because they still have laws & rules and anarchy is with out both.That was the bases for your whole argument.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
The massai defintely fall into the defintion of an anarchist group. They don't have a top-down state telling them what to do - they socially monitor themselves. Thats what anarchism is. That is what is meant by Marx and the anarchist movement. Anarchism isn't some kind of neo-hobbsian world - you have no idea wtf you are talking about.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883 anarchism has no lead, they dont socially monitor themselves anarchist do whatever they want when ever they want, thats what anarchist do, if you think otherwise get a dictionary, look up the word
Dufis38 1 year ago
@Dufis38
Cool I will say it again. Prodhoun, Benjamin Tucker, Kroptkin, Bakunin. Kroptkin, one of the most famous Anarchists of all time, wrote a book called Mutual Aid, with the thesis being that organisms tend to be quite cooperative until having a top down, hierarchial system put on them (i.e capitalism, which relies on the State to maintain private property of capital).
Actually, the first proponent of
spinner883 1 year ago
@Dufis38 A few more things, since you don't know wtf you are talking about.
Benjamin Tucker on anarchy - "not neccesarily abscence of order, as is generally supposed, but an abscence of rule."
Comes from the greek word "anarchos" - meaning without government. Not without social order.
They do socially monitor themselves - if not, one person would dominate the others and then there would not be anarchy, but the same hierarchial notion they are rebelling against..
spinner883 1 year ago 3
@spinner883 And who upholds this social order. Who sets the laws, and who makes people follow them?
The police, and who pays for the police when its private. Those with money, and that means the police serves who?
Anarchism, described by those on the right, is the very thing we saw in Europe in times like 1840.
gulbirk 4 weeks ago
@spinner883 1.No rules and laws is what anarchy is all about.
2.massai are not anarchist
3.Christians are discriminating Atheists,but because there are laws,you can sue them for discrimination
4,im not going argue on a Glenn Beck video anymoore,because he likes to drop words that sound scary to scare his viewers and listeners (he once called Obama a muslim and attacked his following of rev. Wrights in the same sentece.So he is a muslim/christian-thats a first)
5.watch TYT Glenn Beck to see
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@spinner883 I love laws & rules and im not an anarchist.They are there to protect people who cant protect them selfs.Me and you being atheists are a minority.Imagine what the religious people would do to us if we didnt have laws to protect us.
First they would discriminate us,then we wouldent get the same opportunity in education and jobs as them,then lastly they would burn us at the stake if we dont accept their belifs as our own.
Yes they are crazy that way.And yes the Bible is bullshit too.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
Anarchism does not mean any rules. anarchism does not mean any rules. anarchism does not mean any rules.
people already discriminate against atheists, regardless of laws that no one enforces.
spinner883 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola
look up Prodhoun, look up Benjamin tucker, kevin carson, kroptkin, bakunin...
spinner883 1 year ago
@StirItUP1973 You have no idea what you're talking about either.
ErikBarmon 1 year ago
@StirItUP1973 Actually traditional Communism was stateless, but when Beck talks about Communism he's talking about the Soviet perversion of it. So yeah, he's still a retard.
SirPwn4lot 9 months ago
@StirItUP1973 Religious...Atheist. Hmm....Welll....If you we're trying to compare two opposites as I'm sure you were, than you failed. You failed miserably, might I add. What is it to be "religious?" Can you honestly answer that? I can, and will. To be religious simply means to have faith in something, be it a set of values and morals, a deity, or even your self-established reality. To be an atheist denies the existence of a deity. So....that leaves you with two choices to "follow religiously."
downwitflav 7 months ago
@StirItUP1973 there is actually such a think as an anarchist communist actually
niall922 6 months ago
@StirItUP1973
/facepalm
You idiot, there is such a think as Anrachist-Communism.
csmith1234567891 6 months ago
@StirItUP1973 lol that made my day
saari985 4 months ago
@demarcos69 BTW its not a sure thing that Beck is going blind.
Braves0056 1 year ago
Communist AND anarchist? Is Glenn Beck fucking retarded?
CENSOREDFORSEX 1 year ago
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thompsonk196 1 year ago
umm, glenn YOU CAN'T BE A COMMUNIST AND AN ANARCHIST AT THE SAME TIME! it's called opposing ideologies, derrr.
FascistFashion 1 year ago
@FascistFashion But yet there still is lots of so called anarcho/ communist and anarcho/ socialist.
defiythelie 1 year ago
@FascistFashion fag
jimbob1234567 1 year ago
ready.gov and noattack.gov are part of the T.I.P.S program. Research and warn others.
Blit67 1 year ago
I like this guy just as much as I like glen beck
TheMightyBaconator 1 year ago
Agreed! Glen Beck is an idiot.
KTS1223 1 year ago
fuck you mother fucker ..yuo mother fuckers amercans ..the fuckn 9/11 is not islamic the mother fucker bush have dumb ass .. plan to destory the islamic world ..
you mother fuckers
MsNoorkhan 1 year ago
@MsNoorkhan Learn to speak before doing so.
defiythelie 1 year ago
ok fuck you you will tech me how to speak and you shit not know ...why the priest want to Burn holy book...i ask why ..muslims not doing so agaist anther religions ...but oly the you people why.. i ask why ... .... this is politiical issue not religion issue .....
MsNoorkhan 1 year ago
but you guys make it reliogion issue .........
MsNoorkhan 1 year ago
@A86 Daily mail
First published in 1896
United Kingdom's second biggest-selling daily newspaper after The Sun
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 California Nurses Association
what a crank you are
California Nurses Association - SEIU and pushing BHO care -
why not just give alink to BHO handing out white Lab coats
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 Michael Moore, politicians and the media use inflated numbers of those without health insurance to promote universal coverage.
Fact Sheet about Michael Moore
By Julia A. Seymour
Business & Media Institute
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 articles talk about Britons who never had dental care
and that is the point - NHS failed to provide Dental care - They collect the TAX then Fail to provide the care -
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 You spouting off left wing nonsense is hardly offcial proof -
BTW I guess legit References to you are from whitehosue BHO daily updates
Again
Secret NHS plan to ration patient care - Times Online
Cancer patient told life-prolonging treatment is too expensive for NHS - politico
BBC NEWS | Health | Experts in drug 'ration' warning
Top cancer specialists say NHS drug "rationing" is forcing cancer patients to remortgage homes to pay for treatment
Prove things have not changed since 2008
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 No the FDA and the AMA work with Drug Company and drives up the cot
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 amednews
Again you are pushing the AMA witch is in bed with Drug Company and BHO
CDC lumps us all in to one big pot -
The do nto include those who are between jobs but will get insurance -
The Count the Mexicans that jump our boarder
they count those making above 75 Grand but chose not to buy Insurance
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86
Costs of Treating Obesity Soar - WSJ
The direct medical cost of obesity and indirect economic loss to obesity has been estimated to be as high as $51.64 billion and $99.2 billion in 1995, respectively this rose to $61 billion and $117 billion in 2000. Researchers for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
obesity-related medical problems, including type II diabetes, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and disability- "Statistics Related to Overweight and Obesity". CDC
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 Better check out the Obesity problem with America - that is our leading cost and death -
Yea we have a huge Car accident Compared to most countries - So yea we are dying off faster -
The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says Canada's health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it
Try to discredit all you like sweetie
kim8040 1 year ago
*but, I meant.
A86 1 year ago
This is the most recent report as of last month: "Health reform savings barely dent deficit, CBO says"
A86 1 year ago
@A86
It is still not budget-neutral,
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 Other words (D) lied , Gave union kick backs - Back room deals for Health care votes -
they are not to be trusted
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 I think states should sue the GOV for Education cost and Health care cost of people that aren’t citizens
The GOV fails to protect our boarders
kim8040 1 year ago
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@kim8040 - "invalidating all the claims of 40+ million “Americans” without health insurance"
They're still counted as "Americans" whether they're here legally or not.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 Now why would a Illegal Alien be counted as an American
your argument is really going south for you to where the American voter View are at
but then when you are slammed with the fact - you try and crawl your way out
And was my point the 40 million with out Insurance Number you like to boast includes numbers like !) million Illegal Alien
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 Umm 2004 - 2009 not that much time
hello - theses guys do not crunch number every week -
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - "Umm 2004"
You're talking about a report which claimed 45% of them would be covered in just 4 months after the report was made. 2004 and 2005 have come and gone. The number of uninsured has gone up to nearly 50 million as of 2010 according to the CDC.
A86 1 year ago
@A86
And the CDC again does not take into account the groups I have listed -
they count none legit people
on and on
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - Yes they have as the CDC report is from 2010. Your report is from 2004 and claimed the situation would change in just 4 months from that month in 2004. So the CDC report takes place AFTER whatever change took place took effect.
A86 1 year ago
@A86
I am not arguing the CDC report but they do not break it down into groups -
like people that just lost their insurance and just started a Job and will have Insurance
they count none legit workers , Mexican sneaking across the boarder
On and on
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - Your "groups" are pretty worthless as they're from an old report. The CDC report is up-to-date.
"people that just lost their insurance and just started a Job and will have Insurance"
And how many of those people are there?
A86 1 year ago
@A86 but the CDC does not break it down into groups
they count none citizen
and btw
I used news buster wich knocked you in the head - The '40 Million Uninsured' Myth | NewsBusters
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - Illegal immigrants are still counted as "Americans".
"I used news buster"
Which you just backed away from when I pointed out the report is old bullshit:
"we do not know"
Keep backing up so I can knock your head open again. Backpeddle your little life away.
A86 1 year ago
@A86
no it is not old BS
Just cause you left wing cranks say so does not make it so -
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - 2004 is old news. The number of uninsured has increased since then and the 4 months have passed since the report claimed the number of uninsured would decrease by 45%.
The CDC busted your right-wing peabrain open.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 whereas nearly 50 percent regain health insurance within four months ...
CBO website
They have not updated the INFO as it still stands as it changes they will change the report
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - This claim is 6 years old. The number of uninsured has only risen since then.
The CDC busts your head wide open.
A86 1 year ago
@A86
give the source what are they claiming now ?
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - CDC Early Release Data June 16, 2010: 1. Lack of health insurance coverage and type of coverage.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 yea I have looked at it and they are just lumping us all into one big group
None legit workers
people that can afford it but does not buy insurance
Also CDC director ? Big Time BO care pusher - big time
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - None legit workers? What is that supposed to mean?
Anyway, insurers have guidelines. Not just anyone can "buy" insurance. There is such thing as "preexisting conditions" and "prudent patient responsibility". People who don't meet that are not eligible for coverage.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 so I agree with taking out preexisting conditions , How about buying across state line ? Ending Needless lawsuits ?
we could have passed a simple to the point bill - Fixing all out issues -
but what did we get ?
Back room deals
a bill 20000000000 pages think that noone had time to read
We got the SEIU beating up old people .
I wanted True reform and debate -
If there was a pool for a public option ? talk about it instead of that they did it was wrong .
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 I am sure the numbers has went up
bho failed 3 recovery package and not one damn job
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 @A86 whereas nearly 50 percent regain health insurance within four months ...
CBO website
They have not updated the INFO as it still stands as it changes they will change the report
40 Million Uninsured' Myth | NewsBusters
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - It has updated. The CDC report is from 2010.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 Are you now claiming 200 million with out insurance
and that mother are stealing kedney from kids because we do not have a public option and that everyone is dying
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 Over 9 million of the “uninsured” have household incomes over $75000. CBO 2010
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - "have household incomes over $75000. CBO 2010"
1) Where is the source?
2) Having over $75,000/year doesn't mean you have insurance. Apparently you've never heard of such a thing as "preexisting condition".
A86 1 year ago
@A86 Well I am not against reform
what I am against is a system like Canada and BHO agree - (D) agree they took the public option off the table
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - "they took the public option off the table"
Alan Grayson put it back on.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 they can get coverage -
just not for that condition -
kim8040 1 year ago
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@kim8040 - "just not for that condition"
If you're dumped for having a "preexisting condition" you don't have coverage at all. Obviously you're not familiar with this.
A86 1 year ago
@A86
You can get coverage but not for the "preexisting condition"
other words if you had a bad heart you would not be covered for anything related to that illness -
You have no clue how insurances work do you ?
Like your fake Educational claims on your Website -
kim8040 1 year ago
@A86 I wash H Clinton was in office - or Ron Paul
At least they are honest
H Clinton will tell you she is a far left loon
Ron Paul is just smart and has the best ideas
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - I don't care about Clinton or Ron Paul.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 White House Spokesman Robert Gibbs Bashes 'Liberal
They will be satisfied when we have Canadian healthcare and we’ve eliminated the Pentagon. That’s not reality.’ ”
BHO (D) took pubic option off the Table - when will you face it noone buys your BS ? your all alone kiddo
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - "noone buys your BS ?"
The majority of Americans want the Public Option. Gibbs is not the American public. I love how you believe he represents us all though, which means we all must be Democrats. Lol
"How about buying across state line ? Ending Needless lawsuits ?"
The CBO said that wouldn't do much and wouldn't save much money. They also said it would do next to nothing to bring down costs. Just allow them to move to low-regulation states and charge high rates.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 where is the public option ?
(D) had all the power they wanted to pass anything - they could have done it - where is it ? Maybe it was a bad idea - Public and what they want is not always the best thing - Out leaders have to do the right thing
Most of Germany Agreed with Hitler
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - Alan Grayson put it on the floor as the Public Option Act. It is up for being voted on.
"Public and what they want is not always the best thing"
So now you've gone from using Argument From Popularity and saying "America rejected it!" to not caring what the public thinks when the majority disagrees with you and comparing Americans to Germans who voted for Hitler.
Keep running around and backpeddling. Now you've invoked Godwin's Law.
A86 1 year ago
@A86 Alan Grayson
you mean the nut Job ? the Grandstander ?
you mean the guy the (D) whipe said was a fry short of a happy meal
please please please -
I said we have a vote - they better tread lightly -
but at the same time like Germany the public wanted Hitler - not always a good thing what the public wants
that is why we have check and balances
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - And I view Ron Paul as a nutjob.
I love how you've gone from saying "America rejects you!" to comparing citizens to Nazi Germany now that you can't rebut the fact they actually disagree with you.
"Gibs said"
Reality > what Gibbs thinks
A86 1 year ago
@A86 I am not comparing American to germans
I am comparing popular public view - it is not always correct
our founders did not trust the GOV - they did not trust Voters - they did not trust the states -
this is why they put check and Balances - this is why they put control over the GOV
so we do not have dictator or Mob rule
kim8040 1 year ago
@kim8040 - So in other words public opinion only matters when it agrees with what you think.
A86 1 year ago