Details about Patterson might include some suspicious activity, but let's not forget Hieronimus's fumbling of the facts re. the alleged suit - not to mention those by the apparent suit's creator. Bob Hieronimus was 26 years old when he claimed to have appeared in the film, it's highly doubtful his body was the shape and size it became in old age, and as many have pointed out, the so-called suit in the video would had to have been worn by somebody of unusually large proportions.
I like how they say he can look at it in HD.....LOL NO HE CAN"T!...He can look at an old blurry film in HD but it's still going to be blurry. No matter how much he messes with the film it's still old and you can't clean it up to be truly HD like today's HD videos. Plus if you mess with it to much then people start to wonder what you done to it and then it becomes a "OH he messed with it a lot so it would look like that" film. It just makes it look more questionable to me.
Well, since you're all obviously not getting anywhere with this, I'll just give you the answer; it's an "ape" in an ape suit, and this man was stupid to not test permutations of other guneses, let alone other species of humans, Tunisians for example, have entirely unsimilar body structures than any other known species of human.
How come we got specimens of every other known animal? We got specimens of a 0.5 ounce mouse or of an insect 4 mm long but we can't find a dead monster 8 ft tall weighing 700 lbs? Bigfooter logic..
Mig---national geographic did not confirm bigfoot existence. Even if you randomly choose to believe heironimus is lying there is still ZERO scientific evidence for bigfoot. All this babble over pgf and bob h is just a way to avoid talking about the lack of evidence.
@Mingaggins It's absolutely fake. They were shooting a movie about a ficticious bigfoot they wrote and got balls deep in debt and had warrants for their arrests and got no footage so they made this hoax for some money, it is all detailed.
Watch Pax Lie Detector right here on YT. You can see Bob Heironimus taking and passing his second polygraph test in which he proves yet again he wore the costume.
@seymourbbest lol. And you cant fake a polygraph test? :-D
This is a freaking national geographic documentary. Nat GEO the kings in debunking everything like, loch ness, ufo's, area 51 etc. And for once with another serious investigation, they confirm a theory they would normally debunk. It speaks for it self.
And how many time has dear bob heironimus lied about his story so far? ;-)
If you get a really tall person, or a midget and put them in a costume, you would think that it isn't a 'normal' human because the proportions are all wrong.
Maybe that's what happened here. It seems highly unlikely that this creature could stay hidden all these years. What happens when they die? They hide the bodies too ?
Get retort Adam calling me retarded. Wow. You've been to the school of bigfooter logic I see. But to address your point my guess is ALL the apes known today have been found WITHOUT any government putting up massive resources.you really think the 3rd world countrys where these discoveries are made are spending money on wildlife research? Not hardly. Its private research not governmental.
It is hilarious you people are like see there people think it could possibly be real so why are we still arguing and then completely dismiss someone admittting to it as not enough proof to let it go.
One this weeks "finding Bigfoot" matt moneymaker is promising to answer the age old question of why we can't get clear photos or video of a giant monster supposedly roaming the USA by the thousands. I don't expect an answer. Moneymaker is a greasy headed mealy mouthed liar who never answers skeptics.
@seymourbbest You're retarded, if you put a Great Ape into one of our forests you will never see it again no matter how hard you looked for it. You know why? They are very elusive creatures. If we don't even have over 1% of our planet's oceans discovered do you really think we could find a Great Ape without the Government putting all of its resources into it?
It's just madman sewerblewey in a nutshell, some folks have no life so they 'live' to troll. Watch them all disappear when it's proven real. They'll continue the old troll line that it never will be right up until it is, which we all know that it will sooner rather than later probably, and then they'll shut up. Until then they'll spam on. It's not even fear so much for these geeks, it's basically jealousy and boredom when it comes down to it. Otherwise, why care about others' interests.
hasn't anybody but me noticed that it's a female it has got tits!, look when it turns around, you can see the boobs swing round after!! 1min 38secs and 4mins 14secs clear as day how come none of these pro analyists have noticed? it seems a strange detail to put on a fake suit???? if indeed it is a fake, i think it is a genuine new species!
I love how you'll respond to a comment I made no telling how long ago and when I've not posted for days. Desperate for attention much? You're a fool. Not even worth bothering with anymore. You bore me. Go to upstate new england and hunt caribou.
Bigfoot's not an ape, dummy. That is the primary, perhaps sole, reason we haven't conclusively proven their existence to the world yet. Rest assured it's coming, just like the same is probably true for similar unknown humanoid/hominid beings across the globe. These are very interesting times, it's like you'll be hard pressed to find scientists today not supporting or promoting the idea of life elsewhere in the universe, only the most gullible flat earthers still doubt the Sasquatches & Co. now.
Lots of animals in the congo that aren't in the usa. What bearing does that have on bigfoot in the USA? None. Matt Moneymaker was an hour outside NYC looking for bigfoot on a recent show. That's the silly reality for you bigfooters...not an ape story in the congo.
In 2008 a troop of lowland gorilllas were found in the Congo...the last cencus puts their numbers at 80,000...yep.. that's right.. EIGHTY-THOUSAND apes, unknown to science until 2008.....now if I told you in 2007 that the Congo had 80,000 gorillas there, unknown to science, I'm sure any scientist would have been able to give you multiple reasons on why that couldn't BE...and yet...it's fact...
If Sasquatches exist, based on their cranial structure they should hold some kind of sentient intelligence. They'd live in packs probably in the sides of mountains to keep away from humans and other dangers.
In the comparative anatomy part, he states that the bloke in the suit, has comparatively short calves compared to long thighs... which is complete bullshit! Also, the shoulders and hips... it's bullshit! Look at the photographs with the average human model in it, and it matches perfectly, and we know, the bloke who wore the suit, Bob heironimus... isn't an average sized bloke. These people make up lies to bolster all this bullshit! It's over, deal with it! It's fake! Christ! LOOK AT HIS LEGS!
Why are people still fighting over if the footage still arguing that this is a hoax if the guy in the fucking video just proved its not? I hate people who close their minds to things like this just so they dont piss themself's when they got out at night.........
@gigaironhulk Maybe because the person who was in the suit already admitted to it being him and the fact they just happened to see a bigfoot while filming a movie they were making involving a ficticious bigfoot. Honestly what is more likely, it's a real bigfoot and if it was real footage then it is being hoaxed. You should probably look at all of the numerous facts that conclude they faked it.
@gigaironhulk The guy who admitted he was in the suit would have to be an incredibly fucked up human being to hoax real footage. Unless you can show me the certificate that says he is the biggest cunt on the planet it's fairly safe to assume he is telling the truth.
@adrenacrumb ...if you think he is telling the truth watch "Bob Herionimus walks in a BIgfoot suit" Natinal Geographic was ready to do a story on him...until he walked out in his suit...they poacked up and left...no story there...at all...
@joeyvader So you expect me to believe what is the only real video of bigfoot was hoaxed? Honestly what kind of cunt would you have to be to try and discredit the only real footage we supposedly have?
@joeyvader Also when you say they packed up and left you must mean they made an episode about it in 2005 on a show called 'Is it Real"? and concluded he was telling the truth.
@adrenacrumb So National Geographic DID do an article on Heronimus? I didn't know that....I've been an avid reader of the magazine for years...which issue did his article appear in??
Do U think if fake, Gimlin would still say it's real? Answer that, seyeygit. Roger said she could even be 7ft, love how U always leave that part out. And indeed she was 7ft. BobH can't even wear a cowboy hat & not look dumb, much less any suit. Which by the way, we saw him do in his infamous Morris clip. BobH's own height of 6ft positively rule him out, or he'd have to grow a longer torso than he had as it's the long part of both Patty or any BF. Hence, why Hollywood can't & why Patty's taller.
Patterson wasn't the smartest cookie.he ripped both heironimus and gimlin off. Gimlin left because of a money dispute with patterson and patterson went on tour with a fake gimlin to promote the film. Do you think if the film was real gimlin and bob h would have split with patterson over a few bucks? Answer that.
Jay--its been proven that Bob heironimus who is 6'2" wore the costume that day. Patterson initially gave a height of 6'4" for the "creature" because he knew how tall bob was. Only later did other liars say the "creature" was over 7'.
"" Patterson initially gave a height of 6'4" for the "creature" because he knew how tall bob was.""
Absolutely rubbish lies.
October 21st 1967. The day after the footage was shot. The Times Standard article said Roger Patterson said the creature was between six and a half to seven feet tall. Roger Patterson phoned the Times Standard and gave his description to them on the evening of October 20th 1967.
"" Does this moron EVER get tired of being exposed as the lying shit-stain he is...??? I think not...""
Nope, he obviously doesn't get tired of being repeatedly exposed as a liar. Thankfully there are plenty of people around here who will expose him as the liar he undoubtedly is.
That could be a way to do it Jay, but it'd be difficult to operate the head and arms naturally like we see here. It's also too late for skeptics to suggest now, because they've said all along that it's BobH and he's 6ft. They of course made the mistake to think a tall person's suitable because BFs are tall. Duh. They're really clueless on the anatomy of these beings, how they're built more apelike than we are, thinking as long as you have a big guy it's enough. It's not enough, look at movies.
If Patterson knew of the formula to get the height through the film, he could have had a someone with dwarfism use a costume. Body proportions vary depending on the type of dwarfism from my understanding one may fit the proportions given. Just a theory.
Yeah Joey, this nisey guy's way ignorant. Patty's height and proportions prove her real, that some people even use the football pads excuse anymore says how naive they think. You can't have football pads if you can't reach up there in the first place, and that's the case with Patty. Her legs are fully seen yet her upper body's longer, so how did they figure a guy reaching the head and shoulder area? Can't, simple as that. Hollywood guys in the past weren't aware, maybe still not of BF anatomy.
mann joe, i kept tellin mfs he was real!! YALL BIG FOOT REAL!! HE WAS IN WAUKEGAN,IL in 1999! I WAS AT CAMP RIGHT, IT WASN NO RESTROOMS AVAILABLE SO I SAID FUCK IT AND TOOK A SHIT IN THE WOODS, I LOOKED AROUND I COUNDN FIND THE TISSUE I BROUGHT WIT ME.........I JUST HAPPENED TO LOOK BEHIND......BIGFOOT HAD THAT SHIT!!!!!! HIS EXACT WORDS WAS......... "LIL NIGGA U KNOW WHERE THE FUCK U AT?!!" IAINT SAY SHIT I JUST RAN LIKE THE FOOTAGE AT 12:35 ON THIS VIDEO #REAL SHIT ...........LOL SUBSCRIBE
@seymourbbest I can't believe you're still arguing about this. Give it up you ratard, what have you accomplished? People that want to believe still do and you haven't changed a thing in anyones life.
Why didn't this guy take into account the damned football gear that they had under the costume to account for the shoulder height? I guess if you purposely leave out information, you'll pretend bigfoot is real all day long.
The great one---you seem to have the affliction that strikes lots of Bigfooters-being purposely obtuse and pretending not to understand so as not to have to address the issue before them.
seymour's just feeling miserable it's no hoax, bitter guys like that claim to see no toes or no muscles or anything when everybody else see it clearly. lol It's very fashionable to deny the most obvious things apparently. You can find plenty of stills of Patty lifting her foot and all five toes are clearly present for the whole world to see, it is one of the silliest straw grasping lies in the hoax claim.
The bigfooters are the ones claiming to see toes. One of the big giveaways to this being fake is the close up stills of the feet in midstep that shows just a white foot pad with NO toes. Your claims of seeing muscles flex etc are equally bogus.besides a film isn't proof of anything. Where is the scientific proof? There is none. Not a speck.
@seymourbbest you can think its a suit all day long but if it is a hoax(which it isnt) bob h is not the guy in the suit,his legs are to long and his upper body to short,his shoulder to elbow is not long enough also,bob h is a flat out liar
@seymourbbest How do u expect to see toes on footage that is primarily shot from the Sasquatch's back? In addition, during 90 percent of the clip, you can't even see the creature's feet as they are completely blocked by debris. The muscle's in the Saquatch's back, thighs, arms, and even calves are plainly seen flexing and contracting as the beast moves. I'm not sure I understand your point about being able to see muscles but not toes. Muscles are visible, toes are no. So why the confusion?
I know Bigfoot is real but I still have doubts about the Patterson film- one frame in particular- we see the bottom of the left foot- it doesn't even have toes !!!!!!!!
""I know Bigfoot is real but I still have doubts about the Patterson film- one frame in particular- we see the bottom of the left foot- it doesn't even have toes !!!!!!!!""
That's because it's covered in mud. The grey-blue undersides is soil/sand/mud. The right foot has less mud (that's why we can make out the toes) but the left foot has obviously stepped in a wetter and more gooey patch of soil/sand/muck/mud.
It you look at frame 332 you can see this muck spreading over the heel.
@wotan237 ....due to the small size of the framed subject, details can be blurry...would you make an elabotare suit and NOT make toes on one of the feet....???
BobH's laughing himself to sleep at night, knowing he conned so many gullible suckers out there. His act and fun's over sooner than later though, it's game over for the deniers. I think he should probably start counting on them feeling rather cheated, so before this is all over for him anyway I'd suggest he came clean while there's time. He's supposedly this good church going Christian, he should feel rotten about telling all these lies. His Master won't look too kindly on that, surely. lol
Laughing, the thing is, these troll geeks here like sewer used to be mere skeptics now they're just in denial and know very well the PGF's no fake. They know deep down it's much too good to be fake, it's only their basic Bigfoot denial that keeps them going. Once we have this down as a new proven species, which is not far away now probably, they'll be gone like the morning dew. And if they're still here by then, we'll just ignore the lot of them and only talk facts among ourselves in the know.
@reclaimerReclaimer Sasquatch the Quest website is up. It looks very legitimate. It is not over-the-top and discusses current research and briefly discusses evidence encountered. The Ketchum DNA (MULTIPLE samples, by the way) is also discussed briefly. You really will be the voice of truth soon.
Yep bigfooter claim everyone is lying except gimlin. They can't be so stupid to actually believe such nonsense but its the only way they can make their monster stories work.
Ok let's say Bob H is not confused but a liar. How did he manage to get all of this people to go along with his story? Don't they say 3 people makes a conspiracy? So Bob H is part of an elaborate conspiracy to bring down the existence of Bogfoot? It makes total sense that you keep your mouth shut in the beginning if you think your going to get paid. How do you explain Rogers inconsistency? Also if ANE kept the original they would be sued, just like Bob G did to Patricia. That's total BS. The bi
Bob Heironimus may have had some type of gorilla Halloween costume. He may even have intended to play some pranks on the gullible and sincere Roger Patterson around Yakima. Whatever was in the trunk, it wasn't 'Patty'. The description is not Patty at all.
There was another guy who said he saw Bob H with a gorilla suit in 1968.......and that was well after the PGF.
In time this Halloween suit becomes Patty.
Denise Coffey heard Bob H say he would make up a story about being Patty.
You do realise that Bob H changed his storty time and time again, don't you?
One minute he claims the PGF was filmed about 3 weeks before Patterson announced it to the media then another minute he will say the PGF was filmed on the same day Patterson announced it to the media and that's why he took 'the suit' home in the car...because Patterson didn't want 'the suit' anywhere near him when he went into town to announce what he had filmed.
And taking the 'suit' home in a car trunk makes absolutely no sense. A shiny brand new Buick with Washington numbers plates and 'the suit' in the trunk, not even wrapped up?
It would have been better to keep 'the suit' and wrap it up with all the camping and horse stuff and shove it well hidden in the back of Patterson and Gimlin's truck. A much better hiding place that the trunk of a shiny new car unwrapped LOL.
Bob H also initially claimed that he went down to Bluff Creek because his work company (Boise Cascade) was on strike. However when investigators learned that there was NO strike at Boise Cascade in 1967 Bob H then changed his story again and said he had to take time off work.
Bob H is full of lies, story changes and even self contradictions.
Did he spend the night in a Eureka motel or did he drive all the way home? Bob H has claimed BOTH during different interviews.
And why would Roger Patterson even have given Bob Heironimus the film to mail home to Yakima if Bob H was driving home straight away anyway? That doesn't make sense. Bob H would have driven the film home along with 'the suit'.
Bob H's various claims and stories make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Bob h can't remember some details of one day 44 years ago.did he have bacon or sausage that day? BUT Patterson and still today gimlin claims not to know where the negative is of the supposedly rarest film of all time---really? Of course not. An obvious lie. Where's the negative Patricia? Why won't you allow it to be examined? We all know why---->splices -not a continuous shot.
The original film was LOST when Roger Patterson lent it to ANE in 1971. Then he died in 1972 and it was never returned as ANE went into litigation.
This is all well known and established. There is no mystery.
Bill Munns has PROVEN that the film was done in one shot with no editing. With today's hi tech digital equipments even a 1st generation copy would reveal editing/splicing. There is none.The original is IRRELEVANT with today's technology. You are obviously too dumb to know.
Bob H said 'the suit' was a dead read horse with t-shirt torso and no metal or fasteners with waist high waders and he was wearing no shoes.
Then later he changed 'the suit' into a fake fur Morris suit with a zipper down the back, knee high waders and he was wearing his shoes inside the costume.
Why does Bob H keep on changing 'the suit' depending on who he talks to? I'll tell you why? Because he MADE THE WHOLE STORY UP!!!!!!!!!
Bob H one minute says he drove all the way home through the night after filming. The next minute he says he stayed the night in a motel in Eureka.
Bob H one minute says he never saw Patterson and Gimlin take the suit from his car. The next minute he says the last he saw of the suit was when Patterson and Gimlin took the suit out of the car and they were very pleased with what he did.
Listen up idiot-Bob Heironimus can't even make up his mind if the suit was a smelly dead red horse with a t-shirt like torso arrangement, no metal or fasteners, waist high waders and wearing no shoes inside.....or a fake fur Phil Morris suit with a zipper down the back, knee high waders and wearing his shoes inside He also claims his car keys made a huge bulge through 3 layers of clothing....his jeans, rubber waders and a fucking fur suit..
Bob H said the creek was dry. WRONG. It was wet and flowing. Bob H says they were off the road a ways and hidden from view. WRONG. Patterson started filming ON the road and they were in plain view in the middle of an open clearing. Bob H says Patterson filmed him from his horse. WRONG. Patterson was on the floor running and was close to the ground.
According to bigfooters bob h has holes in his story cause he can't remember the water level in the creek 44 years ago. But gimlin and patterson claimed not to remember where the film negatives were so they could be examined and gimlin continues to tell different versions of that day but that's just fine according to bigfooters. Bigfooter logic at its finest....
""According to bigfooters bob h has holes in his story cause he can't remember the water level in the creek 44 years ago""
No. Bob H said the creek was dry. WRONG. It was wet and flowing.
Bob H says they were off the road a ways and hidden from view. WRONG. Patterson started filming ON the road and they were in plain view in the middle of an open clearing.
Bob H says Patterson filmed him from his horse. WRONG. Patterson was on the floor running and was close to the ground.
I love how Bob H. claims that HE left with the suit in his car...so these guys create an elaborate suit, at great expence to them, then they let the ONE man who could expose them all, leave with the suit...then they don't pay him...yep...sounds feasible doesn't it??
Bob Gimlin "hey, Roger...should we pay Heronimus yet...he could expose our hoax..!!"
Patterson "nah...I'm counting on him remaining silent for 30 or 40 years.."
Hehe and what is worse, Bob H claimed Patterson and Gimlin gave him the 'suit' becuase they went into town to announce the film to the media.
Yet a few years before, Bob H told Greg Long that Patterson didn't announce the film to the media for about three weeks after the actual filming.
One minute Bob H claims it was filmed three weeks before it was announced then the next minute Bob H claims it was announced on the same day it was filmed.
Why would Patterson even give the 'suit' to Bob H to take home in his car if Patterson and Gimlin are going home anyway? That makes no sense.
A shiny brand new car with Washington number plates would stand out like a sore thumb on any northern Californian roads.Bob H knew that was too silly a story so later on he changed his story and said he took the suit home because Patterson stayed there and went into town to tell the media about the film and didn't want the suit near him.LMAO
Yeah and I live in TN. In 2011 there were 581 bears killed in TN but not one bigfoot killed in TN or anywhere in the world. More to your point there have been dead bears found.museums are full of their skeletons. Zoos are full of live ones too!
Anyone who claims a sky deity has more chance of existing than a bipedal ape is a fvcking mental case......and that's all there is to it.
He have bipedal apes in the fossil record. There is ZERO evidence for sky deity. Nothing. Zilch. Zip. Just some silly superstition in a dusty old book written thousands of years ago.
More joey lies krantz wasn't head of the dept. He barely got tenure due to his idiotic theories. The last paper he ever wrote was rejected for publication due to being devoid of supporting evidence. Krantz tended to make stuff up without offering evidence---that works on bigfooters but Krantz's peers were NOT impressed with his babble.
Bob Heironimus can't even make up his mind if the suit was a smelly dead read horse with a t-shirt like torso arrangement, no metal or fasteners, waist high waders and wearing no shoes inside.......or a fake fur Phil Morris suit with a zipper down the back, knee high waders and wearing his shoes inside.
He also claims his car keys made a huge bulge through 3 layers of clothing....his jeans, rubber waders and a fucking fur suit. What fucking car was HE driving? A 50 ft long one?
@GuideStones101 Obviously there are extremists for any religion out there(9/11). But there are many more believers in God than in Bigfoot so there is a higher chance for some crazy lunatic to blow themselves and others up. But when you think about it, how would the Bigfoot species be able to survive? By the way it's comonly described, I don't see how any living creature could kill it. So wouldn't it have an immensly higher population?
@GuideStones101 no i believe in God as an energy..or a higher power that put us here thats the only evidence i need..I, you, we all exist and something put us here! GOD! but u sound like a fuckin nut case if u think this monkey "seen" by millions but never found one dead one..exist..not one fuckin dead one? lmao..people are fuckin nuts
@GuideStones101 this is the dumbest thing i ever heard out of a human being..u believe in some bullshit big foot..dont you think we woulda found at like one fuckin dead one? yea....oh and no God? well tell me how the fuck we got here...
Comparing Bigfoot to God is like comparing apples to oranges. Bigfoot is claimed to be a physical creature whereas God is claimed to be a spiritual being, so of course there will be more physical evidence of "Bigfoot". Plus there are many more than a few people who claim to have seen God. And not on a grilled cheese sandwhich.
Uber--do you find it as hilarious as I do that bigfooters will whine that bob h can't recall what he had for breakfast that morning 45 years ago so he must be lying but they pretend not to notice that patterson and gimlin told 10 different versions of that day and claimed to have managed to have lost the film negatives. Haha talk about gullible.
"" bigfooters will whine that bob h can't recall what he had for breakfast that morning""
I'm not talking about 'breakfast'.
Since when is THE SUIT HE CLAIMS to have worn, breakfast?
Since when is getting EVERYTHING about the PFG wrong, breakfast?
Dry creek? White sand? A ways off the road? Patterson filming from his horse? WTF? These are all MASSIVE BLUNDERS 100% proven wrong by the footage itself and you keep yammering on about 'breakfast'.
sewerplop's quite an amazing specimen, isn't he. Acting all innocent after verbal attacks, oh my. How many times must we explain to U it's you believing in monsters, it's to you BF is fantasy and for some reason you get off on annoying people who know better than you via encounters. There's really only name calling suitable for a troll like you. The one with a lousy life is you, punk. lol To bigfooters there's nothing supernatural about the species, it's flesh and blood, you're the spectre. lmao
Heres a thought joey--post some bigfoot evidence and less personal attacks.oh wait I forgot there is no bigfoot evidence just babble and name calling. The childish name calling from just about every bigfooter perfectly illustrates the maturity level of those who believe in monsters. You must have a lousy life to have such rage over a myth. Sux to be you I guess.
So prove proof heironimus is a sociopath like bundy and you might have something otherwise your analogy is a fail.prove one word of your bigfoot lies. You can't.
@seymourbbest Isn't it a riot how the biggest liars are ALWAYS using the word 'lies'...he posts the word 'lies' every 2 minutes...One doesn't need a psych degree to see what you are...
More lies from joey. Bob h exposed the hoax fairly early--he took his first poly in 1975. Bob h has proven his story many times.many ways. Bob gimlin on the other hand refuses to take a poly and to this day cannot prove a word of his bigfoot gibberish,has can no one who claims to see them.
@seymourbbest Bob H says they let him leave with the suit...they used their ]powerful Hollywood connections' to fabricate an amazing suit, at great cost no doubt, and then let the ONE guy that could expose them, they LET him take the suit, then screwed him out of his money...sounds rock solid to me!! ahahahahahahahahahah
@seymourbbest Tell us your other great lie, that there are no sightings on record pre 1950's...another lie from the sewer mouther mongoloid..bet your mother wish she aborted you... Are the scars on your forehead coat hanger marks from where she tried??
@seymourbbest you can think the film is a hoax and thats just fine but bob h has huge holes in his story,he is a liar,nobody would rip off the guy in the costume,not roger,me or you
@SuperTestfreak I love how Bob H. claims that HE left with the suit in his car...so these guys create an elaborate suit, at great expence to them, then they let the ONE man who could expose them all, leave with the suit...then they don't pay him...yep...sounds feasible doesn't it??
Bob Gimlin "hey, Roger...should we pay Heronimus yet...he could expose our hoax..!!"
Patterson "nah...I'm counting on him remaining silent for 30 or 40 years.."
its so funny how people will believe in a fuckin fake monkey but try to disprove our existence and belittle God..you guys are idiots.. i hope big foot makes u successful and gives u another waking day because obviously God didnt give u life..dumbasses.
Details about Patterson might include some suspicious activity, but let's not forget Hieronimus's fumbling of the facts re. the alleged suit - not to mention those by the apparent suit's creator. Bob Hieronimus was 26 years old when he claimed to have appeared in the film, it's highly doubtful his body was the shape and size it became in old age, and as many have pointed out, the so-called suit in the video would had to have been worn by somebody of unusually large proportions.
lateleigh 9 minutes ago
I like how they say he can look at it in HD.....LOL NO HE CAN"T!...He can look at an old blurry film in HD but it's still going to be blurry. No matter how much he messes with the film it's still old and you can't clean it up to be truly HD like today's HD videos. Plus if you mess with it to much then people start to wonder what you done to it and then it becomes a "OH he messed with it a lot so it would look like that" film. It just makes it look more questionable to me.
awamrblack 1 day ago
Well, since you're all obviously not getting anywhere with this, I'll just give you the answer; it's an "ape" in an ape suit, and this man was stupid to not test permutations of other guneses, let alone other species of humans, Tunisians for example, have entirely unsimilar body structures than any other known species of human.
Omatollis
Omatollis 1 day ago
How come we got specimens of every other known animal? We got specimens of a 0.5 ounce mouse or of an insect 4 mm long but we can't find a dead monster 8 ft tall weighing 700 lbs? Bigfooter logic..
seymourbbest 1 day ago
@AbuBishir The world is a huge place that still has many undiscovered locations. There r a number of reasons we can't find a Bigfoot corpse.
druid299 1 day ago
Mig---national geographic did not confirm bigfoot existence. Even if you randomly choose to believe heironimus is lying there is still ZERO scientific evidence for bigfoot. All this babble over pgf and bob h is just a way to avoid talking about the lack of evidence.
seymourbbest 2 days ago
I'm still undecided whether this is real or not - the most doubt is thrown in by Heironimus's statement.
Even if this footage is faked, I still believe Sasquatch/Bigfoot is real.
Mingaggins 2 days ago
@Mingaggins It's absolutely fake. They were shooting a movie about a ficticious bigfoot they wrote and got balls deep in debt and had warrants for their arrests and got no footage so they made this hoax for some money, it is all detailed.
adrenacrumb 1 day ago
all i have to say is come to upper fruitland NM find them for yourself . . . No shackY camz lol Film F'N RIGHT!!! PLZ!!!!!
MsCljoe 2 days ago
Watch Pax Lie Detector right here on YT. You can see Bob Heironimus taking and passing his second polygraph test in which he proves yet again he wore the costume.
seymourbbest 2 days ago
@seymourbbest lol. And you cant fake a polygraph test? :-D
This is a freaking national geographic documentary. Nat GEO the kings in debunking everything like, loch ness, ufo's, area 51 etc. And for once with another serious investigation, they confirm a theory they would normally debunk. It speaks for it self.
And how many time has dear bob heironimus lied about his story so far? ;-)
mig97217 2 days ago
If you get a really tall person, or a midget and put them in a costume, you would think that it isn't a 'normal' human because the proportions are all wrong.
Maybe that's what happened here. It seems highly unlikely that this creature could stay hidden all these years. What happens when they die? They hide the bodies too ?
AbuBishir 2 days ago
Get retort Adam calling me retarded. Wow. You've been to the school of bigfooter logic I see. But to address your point my guess is ALL the apes known today have been found WITHOUT any government putting up massive resources.you really think the 3rd world countrys where these discoveries are made are spending money on wildlife research? Not hardly. Its private research not governmental.
seymourbbest 4 days ago
It is hilarious you people are like see there people think it could possibly be real so why are we still arguing and then completely dismiss someone admittting to it as not enough proof to let it go.
adrenacrumb 4 days ago
You mean, kind of like yourself then?
reclaimerReclaimer 4 days ago
One this weeks "finding Bigfoot" matt moneymaker is promising to answer the age old question of why we can't get clear photos or video of a giant monster supposedly roaming the USA by the thousands. I don't expect an answer. Moneymaker is a greasy headed mealy mouthed liar who never answers skeptics.
seymourbbest 4 days ago
@seymourbbest You're retarded, if you put a Great Ape into one of our forests you will never see it again no matter how hard you looked for it. You know why? They are very elusive creatures. If we don't even have over 1% of our planet's oceans discovered do you really think we could find a Great Ape without the Government putting all of its resources into it?
AdamColeD 4 days ago
It's just madman sewerblewey in a nutshell, some folks have no life so they 'live' to troll. Watch them all disappear when it's proven real. They'll continue the old troll line that it never will be right up until it is, which we all know that it will sooner rather than later probably, and then they'll shut up. Until then they'll spam on. It's not even fear so much for these geeks, it's basically jealousy and boredom when it comes down to it. Otherwise, why care about others' interests.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 days ago
proves bigfoots walk one direction and never return
robh64 5 days ago
holy shit its a big foot!
pittpens10562 5 days ago
Bigfoot doesn't exist. Prove that's a lie or stfu. Prove me wrong asshole. Go on prove me a liar. Bigfoot is a myth. Prove me wrong moron or stfu.
seymourbbest 5 days ago
@seymourbbest L0l u wanna start something bad lol
DuskxMidget 5 days ago
Tell your sorrow to eminbozo, seyey. That's the geek desperately looking for old comments to babble on in the crazy attention crave she/you have.
reclaimerReclaimer 6 days ago
@lozzdip they said it was a female that's why they kept saying her...national geographic/bigfoot five parts they say it has breasts
jamesjordan42069 1 week ago
hasn't anybody but me noticed that it's a female it has got tits!, look when it turns around, you can see the boobs swing round after!! 1min 38secs and 4mins 14secs clear as day how come none of these pro analyists have noticed? it seems a strange detail to put on a fake suit???? if indeed it is a fake, i think it is a genuine new species!
lozzdip 1 week ago
I love how you'll respond to a comment I made no telling how long ago and when I've not posted for days. Desperate for attention much? You're a fool. Not even worth bothering with anymore. You bore me. Go to upstate new england and hunt caribou.
seymourbbest 1 week ago
@seymourbbest ...and we all love how you NEVER respond to being exposed as a liar, time and time again...idiot...
joeyvader 6 days ago
@seymourbbest
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz seen anymore of that 'tropical' style snow and ice, ya loony tune?
LaughingGravy31 5 days ago 3
Bigfoot's not an ape, dummy. That is the primary, perhaps sole, reason we haven't conclusively proven their existence to the world yet. Rest assured it's coming, just like the same is probably true for similar unknown humanoid/hominid beings across the globe. These are very interesting times, it's like you'll be hard pressed to find scientists today not supporting or promoting the idea of life elsewhere in the universe, only the most gullible flat earthers still doubt the Sasquatches & Co. now.
reclaimerReclaimer 1 week ago
Lots of animals in the congo that aren't in the usa. What bearing does that have on bigfoot in the USA? None. Matt Moneymaker was an hour outside NYC looking for bigfoot on a recent show. That's the silly reality for you bigfooters...not an ape story in the congo.
seymourbbest 1 week ago
@seymourbbest
Listen dummy.
The PGF was not filmed an hour outside New York City.
It was filmed in the mountains of northern California.
Matt Moneymaker and NYC has got bugger all to do with this footage.
LaughingGravy31 1 week ago 2
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In 2008 a troop of lowland gorilllas were found in the Congo...the last cencus puts their numbers at 80,000...yep.. that's right.. EIGHTY-THOUSAND apes, unknown to science until 2008.....now if I told you in 2007 that the Congo had 80,000 gorillas there, unknown to science, I'm sure any scientist would have been able to give you multiple reasons on why that couldn't BE...and yet...it's fact...
joeyvader 1 week ago
If Sasquatches exist, based on their cranial structure they should hold some kind of sentient intelligence. They'd live in packs probably in the sides of mountains to keep away from humans and other dangers.
Karkenou 1 week ago
@Karkenou Read Grover Krantz's book 'Big Footprints"...
joeyvader 1 week ago
@joeyvader
Does it explain what I just said, or does it hold an oppositional theory?
Karkenou 1 week ago
@Karkenou I'll let you puzzle it out...
joeyvader 6 days ago
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In the comparative anatomy part, he states that the bloke in the suit, has comparatively short calves compared to long thighs... which is complete bullshit! Also, the shoulders and hips... it's bullshit! Look at the photographs with the average human model in it, and it matches perfectly, and we know, the bloke who wore the suit, Bob heironimus... isn't an average sized bloke. These people make up lies to bolster all this bullshit! It's over, deal with it! It's fake! Christ! LOOK AT HIS LEGS!
Spillage66 1 week ago
Yes, sadly a lot of geeks out there don't like the Bigfoot reality, so they'll spam endlessly in their bitter defeat on the matter.
reclaimerReclaimer 1 week ago
Why are people still fighting over if the footage still arguing that this is a hoax if the guy in the fucking video just proved its not? I hate people who close their minds to things like this just so they dont piss themself's when they got out at night.........
gigaironhulk 1 week ago 7
@gigaironhulk *go*
gigaironhulk 1 week ago
@gigaironhulk yes this is true....the earth is not flat ...lol
TheSleepermgm 1 week ago
@gigaironhulk yeah, im still waiting for it to come back from where it was walking to to get more pics
robh64 5 days ago
@gigaironhulk Maybe because the person who was in the suit already admitted to it being him and the fact they just happened to see a bigfoot while filming a movie they were making involving a ficticious bigfoot. Honestly what is more likely, it's a real bigfoot and if it was real footage then it is being hoaxed. You should probably look at all of the numerous facts that conclude they faked it.
adrenacrumb 4 days ago
@gigaironhulk The guy who admitted he was in the suit would have to be an incredibly fucked up human being to hoax real footage. Unless you can show me the certificate that says he is the biggest cunt on the planet it's fairly safe to assume he is telling the truth.
adrenacrumb 4 days ago
@adrenacrumb ...if you think he is telling the truth watch "Bob Herionimus walks in a BIgfoot suit" Natinal Geographic was ready to do a story on him...until he walked out in his suit...they poacked up and left...no story there...at all...
joeyvader 2 days ago
@joeyvader So you expect me to believe what is the only real video of bigfoot was hoaxed? Honestly what kind of cunt would you have to be to try and discredit the only real footage we supposedly have?
adrenacrumb 2 days ago
@joeyvader Also when you say they packed up and left you must mean they made an episode about it in 2005 on a show called 'Is it Real"? and concluded he was telling the truth.
adrenacrumb 2 days ago
@adrenacrumb So National Geographic DID do an article on Heronimus? I didn't know that....I've been an avid reader of the magazine for years...which issue did his article appear in??
joeyvader 2 days ago
@joeyvader What? National Geographic has a television channel fool, they did the story on the TV station they own.
adrenacrumb 1 day ago
@gigaironhulk "Why are people still fighting over if the footage still arguing..."
Did you even read what you wrote before you posted?
YouKilledYourMaster 3 days ago
true and straight!
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Do U think if fake, Gimlin would still say it's real? Answer that, seyeygit. Roger said she could even be 7ft, love how U always leave that part out. And indeed she was 7ft. BobH can't even wear a cowboy hat & not look dumb, much less any suit. Which by the way, we saw him do in his infamous Morris clip. BobH's own height of 6ft positively rule him out, or he'd have to grow a longer torso than he had as it's the long part of both Patty or any BF. Hence, why Hollywood can't & why Patty's taller.
reclaimerReclaimer 1 week ago
Patterson wasn't the smartest cookie.he ripped both heironimus and gimlin off. Gimlin left because of a money dispute with patterson and patterson went on tour with a fake gimlin to promote the film. Do you think if the film was real gimlin and bob h would have split with patterson over a few bucks? Answer that.
seymourbbest 2 weeks ago
Real and Lesbian
harijoel 2 weeks ago
Jay--its been proven that Bob heironimus who is 6'2" wore the costume that day. Patterson initially gave a height of 6'4" for the "creature" because he knew how tall bob was. Only later did other liars say the "creature" was over 7'.
seymourbbest 2 weeks ago
@seymourbbest bob h is not the patterson bigfoot,no way no how,nobody on earth would rip off the guy in the costume,would you?
SuperTestfreak 2 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
"" Patterson initially gave a height of 6'4" for the "creature" because he knew how tall bob was.""
Absolutely rubbish lies.
October 21st 1967. The day after the footage was shot. The Times Standard article said Roger Patterson said the creature was between six and a half to seven feet tall. Roger Patterson phoned the Times Standard and gave his description to them on the evening of October 20th 1967.
You lose.
I win (again).
Roger Patterson said "6 1/2 to 7 ft"
LaughingGravy31 1 week ago
@LaughingGravy31 Does this moron EVER get tired of being exposed as the lying shit-stain he is...??? I think not...
joeyvader 6 days ago
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@joeyvader
"" Does this moron EVER get tired of being exposed as the lying shit-stain he is...??? I think not...""
Nope, he obviously doesn't get tired of being repeatedly exposed as a liar. Thankfully there are plenty of people around here who will expose him as the liar he undoubtedly is.
LaughingGravy31 5 days ago
That could be a way to do it Jay, but it'd be difficult to operate the head and arms naturally like we see here. It's also too late for skeptics to suggest now, because they've said all along that it's BobH and he's 6ft. They of course made the mistake to think a tall person's suitable because BFs are tall. Duh. They're really clueless on the anatomy of these beings, how they're built more apelike than we are, thinking as long as you have a big guy it's enough. It's not enough, look at movies.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 weeks ago
If Patterson knew of the formula to get the height through the film, he could have had a someone with dwarfism use a costume. Body proportions vary depending on the type of dwarfism from my understanding one may fit the proportions given. Just a theory.
JayT7 2 weeks ago
Yeah Joey, this nisey guy's way ignorant. Patty's height and proportions prove her real, that some people even use the football pads excuse anymore says how naive they think. You can't have football pads if you can't reach up there in the first place, and that's the case with Patty. Her legs are fully seen yet her upper body's longer, so how did they figure a guy reaching the head and shoulder area? Can't, simple as that. Hollywood guys in the past weren't aware, maybe still not of BF anatomy.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 weeks ago
mann joe, i kept tellin mfs he was real!! YALL BIG FOOT REAL!! HE WAS IN WAUKEGAN,IL in 1999! I WAS AT CAMP RIGHT, IT WASN NO RESTROOMS AVAILABLE SO I SAID FUCK IT AND TOOK A SHIT IN THE WOODS, I LOOKED AROUND I COUNDN FIND THE TISSUE I BROUGHT WIT ME.........I JUST HAPPENED TO LOOK BEHIND......BIGFOOT HAD THAT SHIT!!!!!! HIS EXACT WORDS WAS......... "LIL NIGGA U KNOW WHERE THE FUCK U AT?!!" IAINT SAY SHIT I JUST RAN LIKE THE FOOTAGE AT 12:35 ON THIS VIDEO #REAL SHIT ...........LOL SUBSCRIBE
5150UTGTV 2 weeks ago
19-pretending is all bigfooters have. They have zero proof so they make up and lie their way into pretending bigfoot is real.
seymourbbest 2 weeks ago
@seymourbbest I can't believe you're still arguing about this. Give it up you ratard, what have you accomplished? People that want to believe still do and you haven't changed a thing in anyones life.
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Why didn't this guy take into account the damned football gear that they had under the costume to account for the shoulder height? I guess if you purposely leave out information, you'll pretend bigfoot is real all day long.
19nisey69 2 weeks ago
@19nisey69 Football pads! Mystery solved! You'd think these Oscar and Emmy winning fx guys would've recognized that!
joeyvader 2 weeks ago
@19nisey69 ...did you even LISTEN to his evaluation...?
joeyvader 6 days ago
BobH's religious poly? Yeah, a hoax alright. lol
reclaimerReclaimer 2 weeks ago
Bob h is the only one in this bigfoot hoax proven to be NOT a liar by his two polys. Why won't gimlin take one? You know why.
seymourbbest 2 weeks ago
@seymourbbest bob h is a proven liar,he has giant holes in his lie story
SuperTestfreak 2 weeks ago
@SuperTestfreak Yes he is.
joeyvader 2 weeks ago
Most people actually know there's five toes on Patty's foot, you're way more urban legend than necessary.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 weeks ago
The great one---you seem to have the affliction that strikes lots of Bigfooters-being purposely obtuse and pretending not to understand so as not to have to address the issue before them.
seymourbbest 2 weeks ago
seymour's just feeling miserable it's no hoax, bitter guys like that claim to see no toes or no muscles or anything when everybody else see it clearly. lol It's very fashionable to deny the most obvious things apparently. You can find plenty of stills of Patty lifting her foot and all five toes are clearly present for the whole world to see, it is one of the silliest straw grasping lies in the hoax claim.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 weeks ago
Pointing a DSLR at the projector ain't exactly developing a new technology now is it?
Still a very good approach imo. Yay for Canon.
holleridio 2 weeks ago
The bigfooters are the ones claiming to see toes. One of the big giveaways to this being fake is the close up stills of the feet in midstep that shows just a white foot pad with NO toes. Your claims of seeing muscles flex etc are equally bogus.besides a film isn't proof of anything. Where is the scientific proof? There is none. Not a speck.
seymourbbest 2 weeks ago
Bob Heironimus knew there was two people behind him with the camera....
seymourbbest 2 weeks ago
@seymourbbest you can think its a suit all day long but if it is a hoax(which it isnt) bob h is not the guy in the suit,his legs are to long and his upper body to short,his shoulder to elbow is not long enough also,bob h is a flat out liar
SuperTestfreak 2 weeks ago
this one of the great film-clips of all film-history...
onceANexile 3 weeks ago 2
one of The interesting pieces of this film is that the bf turns and looks back at BOTH individuals....
onceANexile 3 weeks ago
So blurriness explains why we see no toes but then you claim to see muscle movement and facial expressions? More bigfooter logic......
seymourbbest 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest The toes are small in the last frames as the subject is further away....duhhhhhhh
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest duhhhhn duhhhhh duhhhh ever grow weary of being a moron?
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest How do u expect to see toes on footage that is primarily shot from the Sasquatch's back? In addition, during 90 percent of the clip, you can't even see the creature's feet as they are completely blocked by debris. The muscle's in the Saquatch's back, thighs, arms, and even calves are plainly seen flexing and contracting as the beast moves. I'm not sure I understand your point about being able to see muscles but not toes. Muscles are visible, toes are no. So why the confusion?
thegreatone8675 2 weeks ago
What's this bull talk of missing toes, just google the stills, you'll see they're all present. lol
reclaimerReclaimer 3 weeks ago
I know Bigfoot is real but I still have doubts about the Patterson film- one frame in particular- we see the bottom of the left foot- it doesn't even have toes !!!!!!!!
wotan237 3 weeks ago
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@wotan237
""I know Bigfoot is real but I still have doubts about the Patterson film- one frame in particular- we see the bottom of the left foot- it doesn't even have toes !!!!!!!!""
That's because it's covered in mud. The grey-blue undersides is soil/sand/mud. The right foot has less mud (that's why we can make out the toes) but the left foot has obviously stepped in a wetter and more gooey patch of soil/sand/muck/mud.
It you look at frame 332 you can see this muck spreading over the heel.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@wotan237 ....due to the small size of the framed subject, details can be blurry...would you make an elabotare suit and NOT make toes on one of the feet....???
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
BobH's laughing himself to sleep at night, knowing he conned so many gullible suckers out there. His act and fun's over sooner than later though, it's game over for the deniers. I think he should probably start counting on them feeling rather cheated, so before this is all over for him anyway I'd suggest he came clean while there's time. He's supposedly this good church going Christian, he should feel rotten about telling all these lies. His Master won't look too kindly on that, surely. lol
reclaimerReclaimer 3 weeks ago 2
Bigfoot is real, but the breasts are fake.
pbodytakesmewayback 3 weeks ago
Laughing, the thing is, these troll geeks here like sewer used to be mere skeptics now they're just in denial and know very well the PGF's no fake. They know deep down it's much too good to be fake, it's only their basic Bigfoot denial that keeps them going. Once we have this down as a new proven species, which is not far away now probably, they'll be gone like the morning dew. And if they're still here by then, we'll just ignore the lot of them and only talk facts among ourselves in the know.
reclaimerReclaimer 3 weeks ago
@reclaimerReclaimer Sasquatch the Quest website is up. It looks very legitimate. It is not over-the-top and discusses current research and briefly discusses evidence encountered. The Ketchum DNA (MULTIPLE samples, by the way) is also discussed briefly. You really will be the voice of truth soon.
rockstarzep 3 weeks ago
@rockstarzep That sure sounds awesome, will check it out. Thanks for the tip.
reclaimerReclaimer 3 weeks ago
Yep bigfooter claim everyone is lying except gimlin. They can't be so stupid to actually believe such nonsense but its the only way they can make their monster stories work.
seymourbbest 3 weeks ago
Ok let's say Bob H is not confused but a liar. How did he manage to get all of this people to go along with his story? Don't they say 3 people makes a conspiracy? So Bob H is part of an elaborate conspiracy to bring down the existence of Bogfoot? It makes total sense that you keep your mouth shut in the beginning if you think your going to get paid. How do you explain Rogers inconsistency? Also if ANE kept the original they would be sued, just like Bob G did to Patricia. That's total BS. The bi
ffmcmav40 3 weeks ago
@ffmcmav40
What story?
That Bob H had a Halloween costume in a car trunk that didn't look like Patty? It was described as black and no mention of breasts.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@ffmcmav40
""Also if ANE kept the original they would be sued,""
By who? Roger Patterson was dead. And how can you 'sue' a company that is already bankrupt? LMAO.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@ffmcmav40
Bob Heironimus may have had some type of gorilla Halloween costume. He may even have intended to play some pranks on the gullible and sincere Roger Patterson around Yakima. Whatever was in the trunk, it wasn't 'Patty'. The description is not Patty at all.
There was another guy who said he saw Bob H with a gorilla suit in 1968.......and that was well after the PGF.
In time this Halloween suit becomes Patty.
Denise Coffey heard Bob H say he would make up a story about being Patty.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@ffmcmav40
You do realise that Bob H changed his storty time and time again, don't you?
One minute he claims the PGF was filmed about 3 weeks before Patterson announced it to the media then another minute he will say the PGF was filmed on the same day Patterson announced it to the media and that's why he took 'the suit' home in the car...because Patterson didn't want 'the suit' anywhere near him when he went into town to announce what he had filmed.
Bob H makes it up as he goes along.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@ffmcmav40
And taking the 'suit' home in a car trunk makes absolutely no sense. A shiny brand new Buick with Washington numbers plates and 'the suit' in the trunk, not even wrapped up?
It would have been better to keep 'the suit' and wrap it up with all the camping and horse stuff and shove it well hidden in the back of Patterson and Gimlin's truck. A much better hiding place that the trunk of a shiny new car unwrapped LOL.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@LaughingGravy31 like patterson would leave the suit whith a 26 year old moron like bob h who could show it to people lol
SuperTestfreak 3 weeks ago
@ffmcmav40
Bob H also initially claimed that he went down to Bluff Creek because his work company (Boise Cascade) was on strike. However when investigators learned that there was NO strike at Boise Cascade in 1967 Bob H then changed his story again and said he had to take time off work.
Bob H is full of lies, story changes and even self contradictions.
Did he spend the night in a Eureka motel or did he drive all the way home? Bob H has claimed BOTH during different interviews.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@LaughingGravy31 How many lies HAS he told re the hoax story?...I've lost count....
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
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@joeyvader
"" How many lies HAS he told re the hoax story?...I've lost count....""
Bob Heironimus has around FORTY blunders, lies or self contradictions in total. That's a hell of a lot.
If it were just a few I wouldn't be so harsh, but around 40?
NOBODY should give that man any credence.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@ffmcmav40
And why would Roger Patterson even have given Bob Heironimus the film to mail home to Yakima if Bob H was driving home straight away anyway? That doesn't make sense. Bob H would have driven the film home along with 'the suit'.
Bob H's various claims and stories make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
Bob h can't remember some details of one day 44 years ago.did he have bacon or sausage that day? BUT Patterson and still today gimlin claims not to know where the negative is of the supposedly rarest film of all time---really? Of course not. An obvious lie. Where's the negative Patricia? Why won't you allow it to be examined? We all know why---->splices -not a continuous shot.
seymourbbest 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
The original film was LOST when Roger Patterson lent it to ANE in 1971. Then he died in 1972 and it was never returned as ANE went into litigation.
This is all well known and established. There is no mystery.
Bill Munns has PROVEN that the film was done in one shot with no editing. With today's hi tech digital equipments even a 1st generation copy would reveal editing/splicing. There is none.The original is IRRELEVANT with today's technology. You are obviously too dumb to know.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
Nobody talks about bacon and sausages cunty.
Bob H said 'the suit' was a dead read horse with t-shirt torso and no metal or fasteners with waist high waders and he was wearing no shoes.
Then later he changed 'the suit' into a fake fur Morris suit with a zipper down the back, knee high waders and he was wearing his shoes inside the costume.
Why does Bob H keep on changing 'the suit' depending on who he talks to? I'll tell you why? Because he MADE THE WHOLE STORY UP!!!!!!!!!
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
Bob H one minute says he drove all the way home through the night after filming. The next minute he says he stayed the night in a motel in Eureka.
Bob H one minute says he never saw Patterson and Gimlin take the suit from his car. The next minute he says the last he saw of the suit was when Patterson and Gimlin took the suit out of the car and they were very pleased with what he did.
Why does Bob H keep changing his story, cunty?
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@LaughingGravy31 Senile.
NationOfMasturbation 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
White sand, dry creek, off the road a ways, Patterson filming from a horse.
All these LIES have been PROVEN TO BE LIES by the footage itself.
Bob Heironimus is a PROVEN LIAR. The footage shows him to be a liar.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
And patterson and gimlin claim not to know where the negatives are to supposedly the rarest film ever taken.
WRONG.
The hiding of the negative kinda trumps any detail of 44 years ago bob h can't recall.
RIGHT!
seymourbbest 3 weeks ago
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Listen up idiot-Bob Heironimus can't even make up his mind if the suit was a smelly dead red horse with a t-shirt like torso arrangement, no metal or fasteners, waist high waders and wearing no shoes inside.....or a fake fur Phil Morris suit with a zipper down the back, knee high waders and wearing his shoes inside He also claims his car keys made a huge bulge through 3 layers of clothing....his jeans, rubber waders and a fucking fur suit..
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
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Bob H said the creek was dry. WRONG. It was wet and flowing. Bob H says they were off the road a ways and hidden from view. WRONG. Patterson started filming ON the road and they were in plain view in the middle of an open clearing. Bob H says Patterson filmed him from his horse. WRONG. Patterson was on the floor running and was close to the ground.
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
wat documentry is this from
abcdeathabley 3 weeks ago
real and lesbian
harijoel 3 weeks ago
According to bigfooters bob h has holes in his story cause he can't remember the water level in the creek 44 years ago. But gimlin and patterson claimed not to remember where the film negatives were so they could be examined and gimlin continues to tell different versions of that day but that's just fine according to bigfooters. Bigfooter logic at its finest....
seymourbbest 3 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
""According to bigfooters bob h has holes in his story cause he can't remember the water level in the creek 44 years ago""
No. Bob H said the creek was dry. WRONG. It was wet and flowing.
Bob H says they were off the road a ways and hidden from view. WRONG. Patterson started filming ON the road and they were in plain view in the middle of an open clearing.
Bob H says Patterson filmed him from his horse. WRONG. Patterson was on the floor running and was close to the ground.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
I love how Bob H. claims that HE left with the suit in his car...so these guys create an elaborate suit, at great expence to them, then they let the ONE man who could expose them all, leave with the suit...then they don't pay him...yep...sounds feasible doesn't it??
Bob Gimlin "hey, Roger...should we pay Heronimus yet...he could expose our hoax..!!"
Patterson "nah...I'm counting on him remaining silent for 30 or 40 years.."
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
@joeyvader
Hehe and what is worse, Bob H claimed Patterson and Gimlin gave him the 'suit' becuase they went into town to announce the film to the media.
Yet a few years before, Bob H told Greg Long that Patterson didn't announce the film to the media for about three weeks after the actual filming.
One minute Bob H claims it was filmed three weeks before it was announced then the next minute Bob H claims it was announced on the same day it was filmed.
What a lying bastard Bob H is.
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
@LaughingGravy31 bastard is to kind of a word for the liar loser conman bob h
SuperTestfreak 3 weeks ago
@joeyvader
Why would Patterson even give the 'suit' to Bob H to take home in his car if Patterson and Gimlin are going home anyway? That makes no sense.
A shiny brand new car with Washington number plates would stand out like a sore thumb on any northern Californian roads.Bob H knew that was too silly a story so later on he changed his story and said he took the suit home because Patterson stayed there and went into town to tell the media about the film and didn't want the suit near him.LMAO
LaughingGravy31 3 weeks ago
GOD that scard me he is real
GreenWolf34 3 weeks ago
Yeah and I live in TN. In 2011 there were 581 bears killed in TN but not one bigfoot killed in TN or anywhere in the world. More to your point there have been dead bears found.museums are full of their skeletons. Zoos are full of live ones too!
seymourbbest 3 weeks ago
Anyone who claims a sky deity has more chance of existing than a bipedal ape is a fvcking mental case......and that's all there is to it.
He have bipedal apes in the fossil record. There is ZERO evidence for sky deity. Nothing. Zilch. Zip. Just some silly superstition in a dusty old book written thousands of years ago.
LaughingGravy31 4 weeks ago
More joey lies krantz wasn't head of the dept. He barely got tenure due to his idiotic theories. The last paper he ever wrote was rejected for publication due to being devoid of supporting evidence. Krantz tended to make stuff up without offering evidence---that works on bigfooters but Krantz's peers were NOT impressed with his babble.
seymourbbest 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
Bob Heironimus can't even make up his mind if the suit was a smelly dead read horse with a t-shirt like torso arrangement, no metal or fasteners, waist high waders and wearing no shoes inside.......or a fake fur Phil Morris suit with a zipper down the back, knee high waders and wearing his shoes inside.
He also claims his car keys made a huge bulge through 3 layers of clothing....his jeans, rubber waders and a fucking fur suit. What fucking car was HE driving? A 50 ft long one?
LaughingGravy31 4 weeks ago
@GuideStones101 Obviously there are extremists for any religion out there(9/11). But there are many more believers in God than in Bigfoot so there is a higher chance for some crazy lunatic to blow themselves and others up. But when you think about it, how would the Bigfoot species be able to survive? By the way it's comonly described, I don't see how any living creature could kill it. So wouldn't it have an immensly higher population?
xOpsRedx 4 weeks ago
anyone who believe in this is a fuckin nut case..literally go see a shrink. lmao
mickeypolouskin 4 weeks ago
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@mickeypolouskin
Please listen to redicecreations com radio Jeff Hilling - Hour 1 - The Patterson Bigfoot Film January 29, 2012
ssmaan44 4 weeks ago
@mickeypolouskin Grover Krantz was the HEAD of Washington U's Anthropology dept...are YOU more educated than he??? idiot
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@joeyvader they already proved this video is fake.. so yea id so say.
mickeypolouskin 4 weeks ago
@mickeypolouskin Who are 'they' genius??
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@mickeypolouskin So one can assume that you listened to NOTHING in this clip...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@GuideStones101 no i believe in God as an energy..or a higher power that put us here thats the only evidence i need..I, you, we all exist and something put us here! GOD! but u sound like a fuckin nut case if u think this monkey "seen" by millions but never found one dead one..exist..not one fuckin dead one? lmao..people are fuckin nuts
mickeypolouskin 4 weeks ago
@mickeypolouskin Why waste any time on an idiot who sights your existence as proof of a higher power...what an idiot...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@GuideStones101 this is the dumbest thing i ever heard out of a human being..u believe in some bullshit big foot..dont you think we woulda found at like one fuckin dead one? yea....oh and no God? well tell me how the fuck we got here...
mickeypolouskin 4 weeks ago
@GuideStones101
Comparing Bigfoot to God is like comparing apples to oranges. Bigfoot is claimed to be a physical creature whereas God is claimed to be a spiritual being, so of course there will be more physical evidence of "Bigfoot". Plus there are many more than a few people who claim to have seen God. And not on a grilled cheese sandwhich.
xOpsRedx 4 weeks ago
Uber--do you find it as hilarious as I do that bigfooters will whine that bob h can't recall what he had for breakfast that morning 45 years ago so he must be lying but they pretend not to notice that patterson and gimlin told 10 different versions of that day and claimed to have managed to have lost the film negatives. Haha talk about gullible.
seymourbbest 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
"" bigfooters will whine that bob h can't recall what he had for breakfast that morning""
I'm not talking about 'breakfast'.
Since when is THE SUIT HE CLAIMS to have worn, breakfast?
Since when is getting EVERYTHING about the PFG wrong, breakfast?
Dry creek? White sand? A ways off the road? Patterson filming from his horse? WTF? These are all MASSIVE BLUNDERS 100% proven wrong by the footage itself and you keep yammering on about 'breakfast'.
Breakfast? Breakfast?????
LaughingGravy31 4 weeks ago
sewerplop's quite an amazing specimen, isn't he. Acting all innocent after verbal attacks, oh my. How many times must we explain to U it's you believing in monsters, it's to you BF is fantasy and for some reason you get off on annoying people who know better than you via encounters. There's really only name calling suitable for a troll like you. The one with a lousy life is you, punk. lol To bigfooters there's nothing supernatural about the species, it's flesh and blood, you're the spectre. lmao
reclaimerReclaimer 4 weeks ago
Heres a thought joey--post some bigfoot evidence and less personal attacks.oh wait I forgot there is no bigfoot evidence just babble and name calling. The childish name calling from just about every bigfooter perfectly illustrates the maturity level of those who believe in monsters. You must have a lousy life to have such rage over a myth. Sux to be you I guess.
seymourbbest 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest
The presidents of your country believe in a sky deity.
Why don't you go stand outside the White House and berate the leaders of your country for believing in sky spirits?
What's more likely? An ape or a sky spirit?
Hmmmmmm?
LaughingGravy31 4 weeks ago
@LaughingGravy31 True dat
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
So prove proof heironimus is a sociopath like bundy and you might have something otherwise your analogy is a fail.prove one word of your bigfoot lies. You can't.
seymourbbest 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Logic...amazing...one doesn't need to be a 'sociopath' to pass a polygraph, but good try...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Prove to us you aren't a waste of dna...you can't...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Isn't it a riot how the biggest liars are ALWAYS using the word 'lies'...he posts the word 'lies' every 2 minutes...One doesn't need a psych degree to see what you are...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
More lies from joey. Bob h exposed the hoax fairly early--he took his first poly in 1975. Bob h has proven his story many times.many ways. Bob gimlin on the other hand refuses to take a poly and to this day cannot prove a word of his bigfoot gibberish,has can no one who claims to see them.
seymourbbest 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Where's your proof that Jane Goodall made a retraction...lies?? Only from YOU!!
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@joeyvader Where's the list? Where's the link proving that "Meldrum isn't looking anymore." Lies...only from YOU...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Where's his FOOTAGE...only a still montage...hmmmm...retard...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Ted Bundy took and passed a poly indicating he NEVER killed anyone...only about 6o women...idiot
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Bob H says they let him leave with the suit...they used their ]powerful Hollywood connections' to fabricate an amazing suit, at great cost no doubt, and then let the ONE guy that could expose them, they LET him take the suit, then screwed him out of his money...sounds rock solid to me!! ahahahahahahahahahah
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Any more lies halfwit?? You forgot the 'death threats'...
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest Tell us your other great lie, that there are no sightings on record pre 1950's...another lie from the sewer mouther mongoloid..bet your mother wish she aborted you... Are the scars on your forehead coat hanger marks from where she tried??
joeyvader 4 weeks ago
@seymourbbest you can think the film is a hoax and thats just fine but bob h has huge holes in his story,he is a liar,nobody would rip off the guy in the costume,not roger,me or you
SuperTestfreak 3 weeks ago
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@SuperTestfreak I love how Bob H. claims that HE left with the suit in his car...so these guys create an elaborate suit, at great expence to them, then they let the ONE man who could expose them all, leave with the suit...then they don't pay him...yep...sounds feasible doesn't it??
Bob Gimlin "hey, Roger...should we pay Heronimus yet...he could expose our hoax..!!"
Patterson "nah...I'm counting on him remaining silent for 30 or 40 years.."
joeyvader 3 weeks ago
Plenty of evidence for Bigfoot, it could fill shelves and whole warehouses by now that's how much evidence there is.
reclaimerReclaimer 1 month ago 4
There's the same amount of evidence for god and bigfoot----none.
seymourbbest 1 month ago
13.000 Years Ago We ( Yeah We The Mutha Focking Humans!) Where Bigfoots
Length: Between 1,80M And 350M
Weight: Between 100Kg And 450Kg
So Fuck Off That Bigfoot Is FAke Cuz Years Ago It Exsist!!!
RealLifeVlogs 1 month ago
Learn english dude. You're embarrassing yourself calling other people "dumb" with your pitiful grammar and spelling.
seymourbbest 1 month ago
its so funny how people will believe in a fuckin fake monkey but try to disprove our existence and belittle God..you guys are idiots.. i hope big foot makes u successful and gives u another waking day because obviously God didnt give u life..dumbasses.
mickeypolouskin 1 month ago