Edmund Kemper talks about killing his mother

[PWNDuFTW]

Yes he was a horrible man but its because of his mom, abuse can change a person... Most serial killers are mentally and physical abused which is the reason they become psycos

[skudaarkaat1]

Too bad he couldn't have greased Gloria Allred too.

[sweetkittytwine]

he needs to be fried. he has so much hate inside him for human beings.he did at 12 yrs old when he without any feeling murdered his grands. this bastard was mentally illl. psycho. he disgusts me. raping your headless mother ..he is not sorry he still htes her too much. he turned himself in cus he is a pussy whjo could not make it on his own.

[xDyingZombrado]

you think his mom was good "head"? LOL

[charrison48]

This animal is one of the sickest serial killers on record. He only killed 10 people but what he did to the bodies is unspeakable, no freedom for him, EVER! When he called his Mother's best friend to their home and then strangled her to death shows he will NEVER be rehabilitated. This is NOT a man , he deserved to die in the 70's FOAD Edmund Kemper

[onyxshy]

The devil

[noveltybobel]

He cut his mothers head off, put her vocal cords in the waste disposal, and then had oral sex with her decapitated head.

[creativenameisnotava]

His head looks tiny because he's so huge!

[simondgrass]

Sociopaths would do well in Hollywood....

[tyrannysouls]

Although out of all the serial killers i've read about,I don't think any come close to Albert Fish.He took sadism and cruelty to heights unmatched by even Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer.Not only did he eat a little girl in a stew,he actually wrote a letter to the poor girl's mother detailing the incident.Imagine the sickness and evil lurking in the human psyche to make a man do something that horrible to another human being.

[tyrannysouls]

Is that Weird Al on steroids?Lol.Sorry,not to make light of the situation.Out of all the serial killers in American history,Kemper is definitely right up there with Dahmer,Gacy and Bundy.I've read a lot about him,the head he buried in his mom's garden,he did so because he cruelly joked "She always wanted people looking up to her."Frightening,the lack of empathy.

[scyllaandcharybdis]

God! this guy is fuckin insane!!!! i only found out about him after reading James Patterson's The 6th Target book, Patterson mentions Edmund Kemper in that book thats what got me curious so i googled him and i wish i hadn't! fuckin psycho!

[arnosiemons]

High level I.Q combined with frustration (trauma) make the worst.

Yet the most interresting to interview.

[Isawolfe1]

Wouldn't it be wicked to have a commentary on here from EK himself :-)

[Necroticpus]

Ed Kemper has always been my favorite killer followed closely by Richard Kuklinski. I wish I could've hung out with Ed.

[spaceorbison]

@Necroticpus I know I wish I could have hung out with him just to try and save him. It's very easy for people to go over the edge as children when they have wicked mothers.

[philtirah]

WOW. To actually HEAR him say it! Kemper says she embarrassed, beat, and barraded him even after being released from the hospital after killing his grandparents. I agree with most about Kemper, but I am sure than not too many people are mourning his mother. Evil created evil. Messed up.

[i3ever]

It's natural for people to try and put serial killers into boxes ie abused child, neglected at birth, domanering mother, nerds or lazy bums with no future ... ....

that way we distance ourselves from them because shit never happened to us, we can say we are OK .

The truth is serial killers come from all types of backgrounds welthy, poor middle income, and some come from loving happy families. but we look for the slightest hiccough in the killers past so we can seperate him from ourseves, sad

[joesoap81]

''I came out of her vagina'' nice,maybe womb would be a better description

Eddy boy but hey he did end up fuckin that vagina.

[MegaAce1987]

hes up for parole in 2012 he would be 63 by then what would he do if he ever got out of prison theres not much he can do unless they kept him working at the prison doing what he does now. does he deserve parole, not in my opinion if they did the brain surgery that he wanted maybe, they should have never released him to his mom thats their fuck up, if his parole would have been successful he would have never killed again for sure

[Tehui1974]

Notice how he externalises responsibility by blaming his mother for the death of the women he killed. He talks about himself in third person "her son" like he didn't even do anything. There's an expiry date for people blaming their parents for a poor upbringing, and for them to start taking the steering wheel of their own life.

[Skindoggiedog]

@Tehui1974 - "There's an expiry date for people blaming their parents for a poor upbringing, and for them to start taking the steering wheel of their own life."

Not if the damage they did is life-destroying and permanent.

[chrisher73]

aki llevar jente de esta pa reynosa

[MysticBlueGiminiStar]

he said he cut off her head and "humiliated" her corpse?. I would MAKE him say what he really did. To humiliate his six foot nine inch ass. Yeah his mother was a sick bitch, in fact it would have made more since for her to be a serial killer then him. She seemed insane but Kemp seems rational. He knows right and wrong with his gross ass

[IrishRedRose]

@MysticBlueGiminiStar He definitely knew right from wrong. Don't, however, confuse rationality with sanity. They are not at ALL the same. I agree Clarnell was mentally ill as well; many feel she had BPD, or borderline personality disorder. The children of BPDs usually suffer much abuse. BPD often stems from childhood sexual abuse. Serial murder basically always does; at least I've found NO exception yet. Food for thought re: Kemper. It's important to understand what created his pathology.

[ProfessionalCynic]

@Skindoggiedog how do you/we know that what is "recorded" is actually the truth? if you were not there, you can't know. Obviously this whole subject needs to be studied a great deal more! And obviously, we are not omniscient. I have a friend I've known for 25 years who only just recently revealed what was done to her as a child. Until then, nobody but her and her abuser EVER knew.

[Skindoggiedog]

@ProfessionalCynic "I have a friend I've known for 25 years who only just recently revealed what was done to her as a child."

She's lying. It never happened.

See? Two can play the 'if you were not there, you can't know' game. Kinda silly, no? So let's not play that game.

The claim was that the person hadn't come across a serial killer that wasn't sexually abused as a child, yet there are plenty of serial killers who have no recorded sexual abuse from their childhood.

[Skindoggiedog]

@ProfessionalCynic Whether it happened to every serial killer in the history of the human race, that's a different story, but for someone to say they've never come across a serial killer who failed to report sexual abuse is a statement of extreme myopia.

It's quite reasonable to leave unchallenged the serial killer's claim of a decent childhood knowing what we do of psychopathy and sexual sadism today. Yes, there's more to be learnt, but don't undersell the research already done.

[juanlarios666]

@MysticBlueGiminiStar have you heard of soad-fortress? it's a small tribute to edmund...because for him...he was tramatized. yes, he is grown, but memories are haunting...he actually did those things because to me...humiliation is the only thing that his blindness of rage can do....when you are in a rage, you don't know what to do....you can say you can handle rage, but if you are in that state...what would you do....

[Necroticpus]

@MysticBlueGiminiStar The way he "humiliated" the corpse was that he cut out her larynx(voice box) and put it down the garbage disposal, cut off her head, set it on the fireplace mantle and used it as a dartboard.

[shaaronie]

@Necroticpus

Quite right! He also used his mother's head as a "masturbation tool" which I read in "Mind Hunter". One can only imagine what that means. Sick stuff.

[cmisita]

@MysticBlueGiminiStar But kemp? I think they both had the same name.

[TempterMan]

I would like to see what he looks nowadays. Does anyone have recent footage or photos??

[MegaAce1987]

@TempterMan the most recent photo I seen was in 1991 and thats from the clips I see from him but I'll see what I can find

[Isawolfe1]

Good points IrishRedRose...he does look to be making the most of his existence in prison - especially with regards to palliative care and reading for the blind.

He is an articulate, intelligent, friendly guy and quite likeable really, apart from the fact that he murdered young women and raped their headless corpses. Do you think he ever actually felt genuine empathy for his victims? Or their families?

I actually quite like him but I still perceive him as a serial killer and a psychopath.

[IrishRedRose]

@Isawolfe1 I think that when he was young, he didn't, wasn't capable of it. But he appears to have perceived the lack, which is interesting. I believe that he may have evolved into a person capable of empathy and actual relationships. There are rare interviews from the 90s where he speaks of years of therapy trying to build some kind of normal human personality where he had always just felt emptiness inside, to the point where he could even cry for the death of a friend. Pretty compelling stuff.

[firespinguy]

@IrishRedRose Research shown that therapy don't work on sociopaths and psychopaths, but instead makes them worse and sneakier since they use therapy to learn how to fool people, become better at faking emotions and empathy, and learn the psychology of regular humans.

[BrideOfSnape]

@IrishRedRose I saw a bootleg dvd, early 90s, prolly the same one you saw. I agree, he changed. He was way less externally 'normal'-the prison effect, physically and emotionally-but he was much more what I would call human, though nerdy and eccentric. He wanted to talk about other things, experiences, growth, emotions etc. but the interviewer was only interested in the murders. Kemper obliged but by the end he was visibly tired and seemed upset. I think that was his last interview.

[BrideOfSnape]

It was the French interview which is part of a documentary you can see here on youtube. What is in in the documentary though is not half as interesting as the parts that were left out. Those are what I saw, most of the rest of the footage from what I could tell. Maybe 2/3 of what was shot total? The French guy is a terrible interviewer and not very bright either. Anyway I would not parole Kemper but, he would make a fascinating subject for a non-exploitative, thoughtful biography.

[CynthiaSwallows]

@Isawolfe1 You don't have to "percieve" anything. He IS a serial killer. And if you like him so much, why don't you go visit him in prison? give him a kiss. And if the world is lucky, he'll chop your head off and shove his dick in your neck hole. Dumbass.

[Isawolfe1]

Thanks for the vid IrishRedRose, keep 'em coming!

[Isawolfe1]

Ed Kemper is a fascinating criminal, I've grabbed every book and video that I can on him. Although it may appear that he expresses genuine sorrow for his crimes, I believe that he is talking and acting the way he thinks we would want him to behave. These guys are master manipulators and experts at developing a socially acceptable "mask" from when they are children. Anyways, just an opinion from an EK fanatic :-)

[IrishRedRose]

@Isawolfe1 To an extent, I agree. When it was about hiding his inner fantasy life from the docs @Atascadero, yes. And in this set of interviews, he is definitely trying to be acceptable. But I agree w/one of his early doctors that he was not a psychopath. He has feelings and empathy, which is probably why he tried to kill himself 4 times when, thanks to a medical methedrine and truth serum cocktail in jail, he first saw his crimes as a normal person would--"pure horror" as he put it.

[Skindoggiedog]

@IrishRedRose "He has feelings and empathy, which is probably why he tried to kill himself 4 times"

Psychopaths have feelings for themselves. They'll break down and cry when it comes to something affecting them. Most of this video is an act in a ploy for future parole hearings.

[IrishRedRose]

@Isawolfe1 I also feel that for someone to put himself thru 25 years of intensive therapy, even to requesting brain surgery, there has to be a genuine and powerful wish for healing--to whatever extent possible. His remarkable record of charity work in prison (which gets him absolutely nothing but a few meager cents an hour and some measure of normal self-esteem) also speaks volumes to me. I've heard from people who know him that he feels tremendous guilt and something makes me feel this is true.

[Skindoggiedog]

@IrishRedRose "25 years of intensive therapy"

Yeah, he tried, but he's untreatable and knows it.

"requesting brain surgery"

He did request that, but only in the knowledge that he was irreparably broken. He's a necrophillic psychopath and will be 'til the day he dies.

As much as I like Kemper, you have this romanticized notion of him that's just not realistic. Like I said, most of this video is bullshit. He's acting how he thinks he should be acting. It's all about gaining parole.

[IrishRedRose]

@Skindoggiedog that theory doesn't hold up if you know that he's voluntarily chosen not to try for parole for years. I believe it's mandatory that your name come up but you don't have to make a case for your release if you don't want to. He sounds pretty realistic about the whole thing. Mind you that could change. But it wouldn't surprise me if he'd rather stay inside, as he often said that his years at Atascadero were the happiest of his life. You are very into pronouncing opinion as fact. ;-)

[Skindoggiedog]

@IrishRedRose "that theory doesn't hold up if you know that he's voluntarily chosen not to try for parole for years"

You've got to be kidding me. He knew he didn't have a hope in hell. His only chance was to bide his time

"He sounds pretty realistic about the whole thing"

No shit. That's why experienced, trained mental health professionals let people out who go on to murder again.

"something makes me feel this is true"

Let us all be glad that you'll never be on any parole board.

[IrishRedRose]

@Skindoggiedog I might add that I don't believe you'd accuse me of "romanticized notions" if I were male, lol. I could say that I wouldn't be alone in a room with Kemper if ya paid me and I think I'll stick with that. Better safe than sorry! But I'd rather assess the question in person, be armed with facts and inside information before making any firm assessment of his current status as a potentially dangerous madman. Anyway, there's nothing romantic about Edmund Kemper. Sad, yes. Romantic no.

[Skindoggiedog]

@IrishRedRose "there's nothing romantic about Edmund Kemper. Sad, yes. Romantic no."

I find it hard to believe you've actually misunderstood me so thoroughly, considering the context in which I used the phrase, but it may be the case. So:

==Romantic - fanciful; impractical; unrealistic. Imbued with or dominated by idealism==

Please read what I said again with that in mind.

[noodles41]

@Isawolfe1 I am looking for a good book about Kemper, but have so far be unsuccessful. Can you recommend one you thought highly of? Cheers pal.

[spaceorbison]

@Isawolfe1 I agree he is a fascinating criminal. His giant stature, his 138 I.Q., and of course what he did to his victims. They all make for a fascinating profile but what he did to all those girls is truly horrific.

[BrideOfSnape]

Ultimately I don't believe anyone knows what anyone else does or doesn't feel. Moreover, we all wear a mask with others; at some point we all say what we think people want us to-we try to please, or deceive. People assume all sks are psychopathic, but maybe we fear the idea that a feeling human being could still have an uncontrollable urge to kill. Imo some sks do feel intense pain, sadness, perhaps even remorse. Doesn't change much, but w/Kemper, maybe it's why he turned himself in.

[IrishRedRose]

Today, Edmund Kemper is almost 61. He has resided at the CA Medical Facility in Vacaville CA for 37 years. He is a hardworking inmate, always kind and courteous, and has a perfect disciplinary record. He has lived up to what he told an interviewer when he was first imprisoned: that he wanted to study and learn, and try to help others, and maybe work with researchers to try and figure out how he had become so fractured and dangerous, maybe somehow help them prevent it happening to others.

[TempterMan]

@IrishRedRose He is almost 62, not 61.

[ProfessionalCynic]

@TempterMan hahaha, well.....I guess I get an F in math again. Thanks ;-)

[TempterMan]

@ProfessionalCynic haha Yes, 61 he already is! I just have the habit of paying attention to importless details. Never mind.

[IrishRedRose]

He received several public service awards for heading a nonprofit charity which produces books on tape for the blind. He has worked in the prison library, and currently cares for terminally ill inmates after taking courses in hospice care from the University of CA at Davis. In the late 70s, he actually requested a lobotomy to help quell his violent urges (he was refused), and underwent extensive therapies for 25 years to reprogram and heal himself.

[JackDante69]

@IrishRedRose Well, wtf society? WTF???? He should have been put down like the dog he is at 15, but instead, he gets to win awards, study from a University and live another day. Six naive, but innocent girls never got to finish their studies.

[IrishRedRose]

@JackDante69 that's where our opinions diverge: with someone as capable of articulating his labyrinthine and dangerous mental processes as Kemper, I'd much rather study him. You don't seem to place much value on learning and understanding; but I believe if we can prevent someone like Kemper from even getting started, a LOT of innocent people will not have to die. And if someone wants to work their butt off in prison I'd rather they do that, too. Good policy: make them work for their keep.

[IrishRedRose]

. Despite prison psychiatrists certifying him ready for release in 1988, he does not seek parole; in one statement, he said "public sentiments don't support in any way the release into society of a mass or serial murderer. Parole consideration for me would just devolve into a media event and sound-bite opportunity for the District Attorney's office." There is little doubt that he will live out the rest of his life behind bars, a quiet ending to a difficult and tragic life.

[JackDante69]

@IrishRedRose yea, they said he was ready for release a couple years after he slaughtered his grandparents. WTF, California? Fucking shrinks are fucking insane.

[IrishRedRose]

@JackDante69 LOL...with that, I agree. Or I think, more aptly: they really don't know what they are doing most of the time! It seems to me that understanding the mysteries of the brain and the human psyche might be a wee bit more important than waging war; but no, our society puts most of our $ towards stuff like that. I will say that there is more to Kemper than meets the eye; but he is not the norm. With most violent offenders what you see really IS what you get, and it's pretty damn lacking.

[SmackLoons]

@mulhane89 Totally. That interviewer is smart. He really created empathy with Kemper and made him feel safe. Ive seen other interviews where there was subtle tension bc the interviewer asked confrontational questions and put Kemper on his guard. He seems to be a hugely insecure self-hating person who, not like a typical SK type imho, craves approval and kindness from others and opens up a lot when he gets it.

[SmackLoons]

Wow, this is really fucking sad. Maybe he is just saying what we want to hear when he says stuff like 'those people, not things' but my impression is that he sincerely believes that. You want to see a real sociopath, check out Gerard Schaefer or Ted Bundy or Dennis Rader. They could never display pain and sorrow like this. I've seen them try and it is laughable. I mean if this is faking it's beyond any Oscar performance. He's like a mentally ill, heartbroken little kid in a grown man's body.

[IluvEdKemper]

Awesome. Thanks for sharing.