If he said Islam is Islam. then the terrorists must be practicing wrong Islam. Btw america is founded by intolerance and racism. America also happens to be formed by slaves and natives smarter than the euros. Many of the slave were Muslim same with some people fought in the revolutionary war of USA and whatwrong with thins community center if you guys have ymca.
1. The hadiths are not to mixed with the quran muslims belief only the QURAN is god's word
2. Is this any problem, lets say there are less woman in the paradise so what??? that is nothing against womans
3. Its funny you say study without the holy-spirit, even christians scholars, scientist, priests convert to islam did they not never had the ''Holy-spirit''
Ill just react with a simple math code. 1+1+1 can never be 1 Only 3!
It is completely ludicrous when people such as Pamela Geller say that Islam is an ideology that promotes violence and support this statement with the actions of extremists within the religion. If we were to follow that logic, I could say all Christians are hateful, violent human beings based on the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK. But because I am not an ignorant human being who blames the actions of a few on an entire religion, I would never make make such a statement.
OH MY GOD, how did this woman get this famous, she really is either VERY stupid or blinded by the hatred of Islam, she gets answers and from both the presenter and the Imam, but she keeps saying the same bullshit.. Get over yourself, 2000 americans convert to Islam every year and even if you deport the non native muslims you can't stop that religion from spreading and overtake the world
Congratulations, Pam Geller!! The SOIA (Stop Islamization of America) has finally and officially been recognized for all of your efforts as an hate organization!!
Woo-hooo!!
I'm sure that you and your mindless minions are just thrilled with that dubious honor....
I even talked to these folks daily but it was a study. I finally broke under the "force deportations of all Muslims from the West".
OK, so I'm starting a campaign for ANYONE to dig up video or even audio/stills of the "Blondie/new wave type band that" Pamela "was in with a bunch of women in the early 80s". Help this cause! (and yes, Gmail archived all of it)
Hell, I don't want any religious government, ANY, and most of my Muslim friends came here for FREEDOM! Thanks for posting!
maybe there are 15,000 attacks because the US army is in iraq, etc. in THIER land. Taking THIER resources (OIL). and don't you remember 1993? this old ass bitch needs to worry about her botox and stay the fuck out of this.
Islam forbids the killing of innocent people, therefore it has NOTHING to do with 9/11. That event was orchestrated by the US government, they were inspired by their own MANMADE ideologies that contradict Islam (all the isms). This is NOT a mosque and NOT near ground zero. they have no problem with a STRIP CLUB but complain about a mosque? Muslims never did 9/11 so ISLAM has nothing to do with it, they have a RIGHT to have a mosque. You hypocrites parrot FREEDOM but don't allow Muslims have it?
OMG - This lady should really take a peek at the OT and see all the hate and violence preached in there that was the reason for countless acts of "terrorism" as she puts it throughout history. The texts themselves have context, and if people misread the context and turn a holy text into hate that's their wrongdoing not the wrongdoing of the religion. Wake up!!!
PEMALA GELLER IS AN IDIOT. SHE NEEDS TO GO TO A MASJID AND LISTEN TO THE SERMON. NEVER IS VIOLENCE EVER PREACHED!
WE ARE ONLY SUPPOSE TO HARM THE ONES WHO HAVE HARMED US. NOT THE INNOCENT! 9/11 WAS NOT DONE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. IT WAS DONE BY IDIOTS WHO THINK LIKE PAMALA GELLER AND THE DOCTOR OF DOVE'S CHURCH!
@laikahmom You said it and you are correct 100%, Pamela Geller is a Zionist cunt who hates morality who thinks that you can make fun of people like Jesus, Moses, Mohammad and so on. Pamela, if you are trash who thinks trash, other people are not. Shut your smelly mouth, you Zionist asshole of the year. As an American I welcome all Muslims to come to our country, live here, build their mosques while we do not welcome liars and hate mongers like Pamela. Pamela, go back to where you came from..
This lady Geller is wacked cause there isn't plurality in Christianity, no plurality in Judaism, and no plurality in Islam as well. All of these religions believe that their the ones are right. So, what the heck is she is talking about?
@jinwanc The problem is Geller says to read the Quran. She is Jewish, obviously.
Has she read the TORAH? The TORAH talks about slaughtering Canaanites, Hivvites, David having his general killed, so he could take Bathsheba for his wife.
I guess she didn't pay attention in schul, synagogue. You can't take a religious book literally to act as if all human beings follow a certain program or thinking. That's how Hitler thought, and that led to the holocaust.
That's a Hadith, not the Quran. And the Bible's a heck of a lot worse. In the Bible, a woman is to be stoned to death IF SHE IS RAPED but fails to shout loud enough. As I said, the Bible literally INSTRUCTS its followers on how to rape women from amongst their enemies. Paul speaks on how women are to be silent in church and be submissive to the men. Compared to the Bible, the Quran is ACLU material.
That's not the Quran, that's the Hadith, and the authenticity of that particular hadith is in doubt amongst scholars.
As for the New Testament, I've studied the Bible for years, I'm not getting the context wrong.
“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12)"
Of course, the Biblical God you worshiped endorsed HORRIFIC treatment of women in the OT as well.
@amibidhrohi2006 I know it is Hadith I said that. Looking at what is going on in the world I don't get the feeling that it is in doubt among muslims! Again show me verses in the NEW Test that would suggest beating and killing women!
Jesus in the NT says that he has not come to cancel the Laws set in the OT. He also says that a person won't go to heaven who breaks the least of the commandments. Every Christian preacher and pastor cites the books of Exodus, Deutoronomy, Numbers, etc. So don't you dare pretend those books aren't relevant.
"BIBLE:DEUTORONOMY:22:23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. "
@amibidhrohi2006 What you don't read what I write to you, I already explained this to you. Last time This was BEFORE the new covenant and God was dealing with primitive man in THE AGE UNDER LAW. Jesus brought the NEW test and the age of GRACE, What did Jesus do when the town was gonna get stone caught in adultry? Jesus said "He who is without sincast the 1st stone" The crowd dropped their stones and all left. Jesus said women where are you accusers, she said no one, He said neither do I accuse
Where did Jesus himself speak of this "new covenant", or believing that he's the literal son of god to the exclusion of everyone else, or that salvation doesn't require you to abide by the Law? This is all crap you Christians made up AFTER Rome adopted Christianity and mixed 3 parts of paganism with 1 part of his teaching.
I read what you've written, and I know enough to see where you've been misinformed. Your Christianity is a bastardization of Jesus' original teachings.
The very notion that Jesus was the son of God was even in dispute up through the Council of Nicea in 325AD. And yet in the gospel, Jesus very clearly rebukes those who treat him as though he's holy (Mk10:18). Even Thomas Jefferson so despised these bastardizations that he made his own Bible excluding these heretic texts.
Don't argue with a Muslim. Many Muslims know the Gospels better than chuch-going Christians.
@amibidhrohi2006 Again you are showing your lack of knowledge about Jesus and the Bible. Stop taking things out of context that you know nothing about Complete the sentence Mathew 5;17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Jesus fulfilled all the requirments of the law THAT NO MAN COULD DO for us that will recieve him, when the Father see's the true believers, he see's His children! Simple, what is so hard to understand?
It's embarassing to see I know more about Christianity than most Christianity:
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
Nothing's hard to understand, except that you failed to read your gospels in full. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
Whoever then relaxes the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
Give me a reliable source that shows all Muslims are to believe that "ALL NON-MUSLIMS" are included in the "house of war" category.
To my knowledge, Muslims are only to fight where other Muslims are being OPPRESSED. So yeah, I support the Palestinians' right to fight the Israelis who've kept them in concentration camp like conditions for the past half century. But I believe it's WRONG for Muslims to engage in warfare where the non-Muslims give them equal treatment.
Mo told his followers to aggressively make war on non-Muslims: 9:5, 29. Sura 9 was one of the last Suras given by Muhammad. Initially, when Muhammad's group was weak, he ordered his followers to try to get along with other people. After the Muslims became powerful, he ordered them to spread Islam by force. Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman continued his wars of aggression. A few of Muhammad’s actions include
Anyone wonder why the media ignored 10,000 prosters to the building of this mosque in New York? It looks like youtube is blocking the videos of this historic event also. To see it google "Jiihad watch" Plenty of videos!
I'm very familiar with the Bible. Every complaint coming from a Jew or Christian assures me that you people are utterly unfamiliar with your own Bible.
Islam forbids the killing of women children, & men given to nonviolence. In the Bible, God tells Moses kill them all. In the NT, Paul rants on how cruelly women should be treated, how subservient they should be towards the men. In Islam, women have responsibilities to men and men have to women. The Bible's evil and corrupted.
@ImanFeisalAbdulRauf- "...we feel 9/11 very, very much, we belong in this area.." You and your kind "feel" absolutely nothing for the "infidel". Liar! You don't belong here! You care first for, Numero-Uno and then for your cult. Promoting Islamic dogma for the enslaving of this nation and the globe is what you're indoctrinate with and seek. You need to find the right people who will help you launder enough "petrol dollar".
@GrandeRio01 You are a man of vision into the deception of islam! It is a death cult from hell! Did you ever see the list of beautiful young muslim girls raped and killed and beheaded BY THEIR FATHERS AND BROTHERS in the so called honor killings. We can just start with that I could write a book on the evils of the=is primitive death cult of darkness! HOW CAN A MAN CUT OFF HIS DAUGHTERS HEAD WHILE CHANTING THE SATANIC ALLAH IS GREAT? I think that pretty much sums up this demonn controlled cult!
Read the Quran you stupid bitch Pamela Geller, you havent got a clue what you are talking about. Exactly what the cnn woman said that americans should not be ignorant against islam due to a terrorist organisation who dont go by the islamic faith, it doesnt promote violence. Dumb people who need to learn how to read.
Islam is not simply a religion, it is also a GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEM, just like Nazism was. Islam is the only widely practiced religion which demands an external law system, and therefor it should not be looked upon and treated as simply a religion. People should think of this when they reference rights and the First Amendment.
@amibidhrohi2006 Really? does it have Sharia law? Canon law is internal(only deals with believers themselves) BTW. only one problem with other religions is that they still claim authority and special rights (religious indoctrination/misleading) and genital mutalation (circumcision). Other than those, and by far, Islam is the only religion with a full governmental system, and by far, Islam claims authority over the rights and freedoms of others (ie. Saudi-Arabia).
@amibidhrohi2006 Why do you think they call it the OLD Test? We have been given a promised New Test. Mo's forgery in the Koran is nothing more then twisted copies of the Old Test where the muslims are still stuck in that stone age mentality, Christians have evolved to the New covenant, I suggest you read the entire Bible starting with the new Test for our age of Grace from God through Yeshua!
Only Christians call it the Old Testament. To the Jews, it's still the Torah.
The New Testament? I know the New Testament quite well. It contains repetitions of a narrative based on a lost gospel, an acid or mushrooms trip via Revelations, and a bunch of bigoted and cruel rules set by the likes of Paul.
"1Tim 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array "
@amibidhrohi2006 I am well aware of the Torah, ShaluShalomYerashalayim
Can you show me Paul teaching his followers to stone the women if they don't obey?
Or cut off their heads? Basically he is saying women should not disrupt the church looking sexy and take the mens minds off off God
NO HEAD CHOPPING OR HONOR KILLINGS! The word of Adonai is foolishness to those that are perishing! If you try to understand the Holy scriptures with out the Holy Spirit, Adonai's word is foolishness to the lost
Paul doesn't have to repeat what's in the OT. And don't give me that "well, that's the OT" crap. It's still in the Bible. The Jews who were with the Israeli "Lehi" butchered women based on depictions in the OT, cutting out fetuses from dead pregnant arabs, and raping school girls.
I mean, your version of God actually taught your people how to RAPE. Looks up Deutoronomy 21:11. The Quran is FAR more humane and progressive regarding the treatment of people than the Bible is.
@amibidhrohi2006 AGAIN what is it you don't under stand about the word NEW Test? The Bible has different dispensations, before the law age, then the law age for primitive man, then the age of grace (now) then the age of the great 7 year coming tribulation! If you know the Bible you will know the different dispensations! Isalm is still stuck in the primitive law and never evolved into the the age of grace! Moving fast toward the tribulation age! It is very simple to understand " Be not decieved
@amibidhrohi2006 Mohammad told his followers to aggressively make war on non-Muslims: 9:5, 29. Sura 9 was one of the last Suras given by Muhammad. Initially, when Muhammad's group was weak, he ordered his followers to try to get along with other people. After the Muslims became powerful, he ordered them to spread Islam by force. Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman continued his wars of aggression.
The verses you cite speaks of treaties made near the sacred mosque. It's overwhelmingly obvious that this is in regards to a PARTICULAR conflict in a particular geography, not non-Muslims in general.
@amibidhrohi2006 Right tell that to the stupid infidels, I am an infidel that knows better! I could give you 100s of such damning suras. But this is getting old!
I hope you do see the truth before you meet God at your judgment without Jesus salvation covering you, You will be lost as you are now but for eternity, you still have a chance now, study!
Christianity is a cheap religion. The belief that you'll be judged by anything other than your actions is a great comfort for people who want to feel they have license to cheat, lie, kill, dishonor their spouses...And they'll be rewarded regardless because they believe in this myth which you've plagiarized from pagans. I mean, c'mon, the Jesus story isn't even original. The gospels are littered with accounts stolen from the stories of pagan deities.
Allah asks his followers to sacrafice their children for him, Oh yea don't forget the 72 virgins (cult of death)
YHWH sacraficed HIS beloved son Yeshua Nebi Isa son of Maryim for all of as the will believe to recieve salvation! No drunking orgy in YHWH's heaven. We shall be as the angels not marrying. We shall be as Yeshua a Spiritual being!
Isalm is a carnal mess of confusion and darkness! Sorry! Keep studying!
More lies. Children aren't allowed on the battle field.
According to your Bible, Jesus died because he was betrayed and he got caught. His last words were words suggesting a lack of faith: "Lord, Lord, why hast thou forsaken me". What a cowardly thing to say. This notion that he died for out sins is an invention of latter questions who tried to explain away the failure of their supposed messiah.
@amibidhrohi2006 Man are you confused, it is harram to speak bad of Nebi Isa.
You are showing how little you know about the word! at that moment HE took on all the sins of the world FOR US that except his salvation YHWH can not look at sin, Jesus human side felt more pain it that moment when the Father turned his back on him then any human that ever lived, then after that Yeshua said Tetelesti in Greek meaning "Paid in full" some translations say "It is finished" Think before baspheming Jesus!
I consider Isa and your mixed up version of him u call Jesus to be two different characters. Read P. Perkin's and T.Gandy's studies of the NT and the Jesus myth. Most of what you believe about him are bits and pieces plagiarized from ancient myths. Dying for sins, turning water to wine, "son of god", are all things plagiarized from the stories of Mithras, Bacchus, etc. Your Jesus is poor work of fiction. That is not to say anything of Isa, or Yeshua as the Hebrews knew him.
God bless Pamela Geller. Cordoba is a name used for a mosque built in Spain as
as a sign of conquest 1200 AD, Pamela is right Read the koran and the hadiths and understand what these muslims are doing. America is no Europe or Eurobia they are demmi already. We are Americans Red, White, Brown, Black and Yello and we will fight to the death to keep our freedom. This isn't about race IT IS ABOUT OUR VERY FREEDOM!
Of 44 Muslim-majority countries, only 5 countries have any form of Islamic law, and only 2 fully embrace Shariah. The 3 biggest Muslim countries in the world are all Democratic Republics, 2 of them had female heads of state.
Muslims in the US are as American as anyone else. They tend to be better educated than the average American, earn more, etc. This is all according to the US state dept.
@amibidhrohi2006 just wait until their numbers increase. Always the same old record replaying itself, over and over again. I am sick and tired of these lemmings, time to put them on the place for once and for all. My life and my future is not going to be taken from me because of some ignorant lazy-minded sadomasochistic tyrant. The secular way is superior.
@amibidhrohi2006 In the Qur'an, Allah commands Muslims, "Take not the Jews and Christians as friends....Slay the idolaters [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them.... Fight against such...as believe not in Allah..." (Surah 5:51; 9:5 etc..).
Qur'an 9:5, known as "the verse of the sword," declares, "Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem."
@amibidhrohi2006- Obviously you're Muslim. One only has to take a serious look at Europe's population growth. In every region the child-birth to a Muslim family is 3 to1 and increasing. It is being dominated and soon run totally by Islam. "Infidels" have no future there. Every culture is feeling the 'sting' of a serpent's venom. Europe failed to remember history. Lets hope American learns a valuable lesson.
@MrNickbento YYEEEAAAHHHH!!! FREEDOM!!! Stop and think about what you're saying. Go look up the word in a dictionary...just try not to spit it out when it's least relevant in some situation. Seriously, what you said just lacked any form of a point or...some opinion. OK -- for example, you're trying to say something about...the name Cordoba and how...ok, your point?..scratch that. Pamela is right. OK! there you go, you agree! The koran/hadiths...any examples? who? what? FREEDOM!!.......hhoooww?
If it weren't Islam it would have been any of the thousands of groups that the CIA created in which to perpetrate such crimes. WAKE UP to the fact that popies are protect by the US troops, oil it pumped minute to minute and no one says anything about those to crimes, as for the fact that the Perps of the 911 attacks were from Syria, not Iran, not Iraq not Afhganistan, not Pakistan. So by now everyone knows that this is all WAR BY PROXY
@clarisd As much as I'm glad people like yourself know this, you are preaching to the choir. :( Sadly, the others won't listen to you. Just like if you were telling them it was daytime and you are outside pointing at the the sun, just blind.....
If he said Islam is Islam. then the terrorists must be practicing wrong Islam. Btw america is founded by intolerance and racism. America also happens to be formed by slaves and natives smarter than the euros. Many of the slave were Muslim same with some people fought in the revolutionary war of USA and whatwrong with thins community center if you guys have ymca.
BatmanbinSuperman12 5 months ago
@ 1:55 Wrong. As a non muslim I visited a mosque during a service. And I was very welcome. And no,they did not even TRY to convert me.
FootSomeGuy 5 months ago
@MrNickbento Thats not the quran but a hadith.
1. The hadiths are not to mixed with the quran muslims belief only the QURAN is god's word
2. Is this any problem, lets say there are less woman in the paradise so what??? that is nothing against womans
3. Its funny you say study without the holy-spirit, even christians scholars, scientist, priests convert to islam did they not never had the ''Holy-spirit''
Ill just react with a simple math code. 1+1+1 can never be 1 Only 3!
Lizzio1980 7 months ago
It is completely ludicrous when people such as Pamela Geller say that Islam is an ideology that promotes violence and support this statement with the actions of extremists within the religion. If we were to follow that logic, I could say all Christians are hateful, violent human beings based on the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK. But because I am not an ignorant human being who blames the actions of a few on an entire religion, I would never make make such a statement.
Sparkidance 7 months ago
OH MY GOD, how did this woman get this famous, she really is either VERY stupid or blinded by the hatred of Islam, she gets answers and from both the presenter and the Imam, but she keeps saying the same bullshit.. Get over yourself, 2000 americans convert to Islam every year and even if you deport the non native muslims you can't stop that religion from spreading and overtake the world
Spyfff 9 months ago
Congratulations, Pam Geller!! The SOIA (Stop Islamization of America) has finally and officially been recognized for all of your efforts as an hate organization!!
Woo-hooo!!
I'm sure that you and your mindless minions are just thrilled with that dubious honor....
DeucePrez 1 year ago
She really does get schooled at the end. Awesome. Sad that this intelligent young man has to defend his country against this man-faced she-devil.
surfrider001 1 year ago
I even talked to these folks daily but it was a study. I finally broke under the "force deportations of all Muslims from the West".
OK, so I'm starting a campaign for ANYONE to dig up video or even audio/stills of the "Blondie/new wave type band that" Pamela "was in with a bunch of women in the early 80s". Help this cause! (and yes, Gmail archived all of it)
Hell, I don't want any religious government, ANY, and most of my Muslim friends came here for FREEDOM! Thanks for posting!
LexeconKiddo 1 year ago
maybe there are 15,000 attacks because the US army is in iraq, etc. in THIER land. Taking THIER resources (OIL). and don't you remember 1993? this old ass bitch needs to worry about her botox and stay the fuck out of this.
patriotsmvp2013 1 year ago
Pamela Geller need a hair cut, he looks ugly with that hair do.
islamDick 1 year ago
Islam forbids the killing of innocent people, therefore it has NOTHING to do with 9/11. That event was orchestrated by the US government, they were inspired by their own MANMADE ideologies that contradict Islam (all the isms). This is NOT a mosque and NOT near ground zero. they have no problem with a STRIP CLUB but complain about a mosque? Muslims never did 9/11 so ISLAM has nothing to do with it, they have a RIGHT to have a mosque. You hypocrites parrot FREEDOM but don't allow Muslims have it?
muslim9x9x 1 year ago
OMG - This lady should really take a peek at the OT and see all the hate and violence preached in there that was the reason for countless acts of "terrorism" as she puts it throughout history. The texts themselves have context, and if people misread the context and turn a holy text into hate that's their wrongdoing not the wrongdoing of the religion. Wake up!!!
psychlopes1976 1 year ago
PEMALA GELLER IS AN IDIOT. SHE NEEDS TO GO TO A MASJID AND LISTEN TO THE SERMON. NEVER IS VIOLENCE EVER PREACHED!
WE ARE ONLY SUPPOSE TO HARM THE ONES WHO HAVE HARMED US. NOT THE INNOCENT! 9/11 WAS NOT DONE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. IT WAS DONE BY IDIOTS WHO THINK LIKE PAMALA GELLER AND THE DOCTOR OF DOVE'S CHURCH!
laikahmom 1 year ago
@laikahmom You said it and you are correct 100%, Pamela Geller is a Zionist cunt who hates morality who thinks that you can make fun of people like Jesus, Moses, Mohammad and so on. Pamela, if you are trash who thinks trash, other people are not. Shut your smelly mouth, you Zionist asshole of the year. As an American I welcome all Muslims to come to our country, live here, build their mosques while we do not welcome liars and hate mongers like Pamela. Pamela, go back to where you came from..
MARZOOGI 1 year ago
This lady Geller is wacked cause there isn't plurality in Christianity, no plurality in Judaism, and no plurality in Islam as well. All of these religions believe that their the ones are right. So, what the heck is she is talking about?
jinwanc 1 year ago
@jinwanc The problem is Geller says to read the Quran. She is Jewish, obviously.
Has she read the TORAH? The TORAH talks about slaughtering Canaanites, Hivvites, David having his general killed, so he could take Bathsheba for his wife.
I guess she didn't pay attention in schul, synagogue. You can't take a religious book literally to act as if all human beings follow a certain program or thinking. That's how Hitler thought, and that led to the holocaust.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
That's a Hadith, not the Quran. And the Bible's a heck of a lot worse. In the Bible, a woman is to be stoned to death IF SHE IS RAPED but fails to shout loud enough. As I said, the Bible literally INSTRUCTS its followers on how to rape women from amongst their enemies. Paul speaks on how women are to be silent in church and be submissive to the men. Compared to the Bible, the Quran is ACLU material.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
That's not the Quran, that's the Hadith, and the authenticity of that particular hadith is in doubt amongst scholars.
As for the New Testament, I've studied the Bible for years, I'm not getting the context wrong.
“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12)"
Of course, the Biblical God you worshiped endorsed HORRIFIC treatment of women in the OT as well.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 I know it is Hadith I said that. Looking at what is going on in the world I don't get the feeling that it is in doubt among muslims! Again show me verses in the NEW Test that would suggest beating and killing women!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Jesus in the NT says that he has not come to cancel the Laws set in the OT. He also says that a person won't go to heaven who breaks the least of the commandments. Every Christian preacher and pastor cites the books of Exodus, Deutoronomy, Numbers, etc. So don't you dare pretend those books aren't relevant.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006
Having said that:
"BIBLE:DEUTORONOMY:22:23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. "
What a sick god you worship, "Mr Nick".
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 What you don't read what I write to you, I already explained this to you. Last time This was BEFORE the new covenant and God was dealing with primitive man in THE AGE UNDER LAW. Jesus brought the NEW test and the age of GRACE, What did Jesus do when the town was gonna get stone caught in adultry? Jesus said "He who is without sincast the 1st stone" The crowd dropped their stones and all left. Jesus said women where are you accusers, she said no one, He said neither do I accuse
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Where did Jesus himself speak of this "new covenant", or believing that he's the literal son of god to the exclusion of everyone else, or that salvation doesn't require you to abide by the Law? This is all crap you Christians made up AFTER Rome adopted Christianity and mixed 3 parts of paganism with 1 part of his teaching.
I read what you've written, and I know enough to see where you've been misinformed. Your Christianity is a bastardization of Jesus' original teachings.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006
The very notion that Jesus was the son of God was even in dispute up through the Council of Nicea in 325AD. And yet in the gospel, Jesus very clearly rebukes those who treat him as though he's holy (Mk10:18). Even Thomas Jefferson so despised these bastardizations that he made his own Bible excluding these heretic texts.
Don't argue with a Muslim. Many Muslims know the Gospels better than chuch-going Christians.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 Again you are showing your lack of knowledge about Jesus and the Bible. Stop taking things out of context that you know nothing about Complete the sentence Mathew 5;17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Jesus fulfilled all the requirments of the law THAT NO MAN COULD DO for us that will recieve him, when the Father see's the true believers, he see's His children! Simple, what is so hard to understand?
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
It's embarassing to see I know more about Christianity than most Christianity:
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Nothing's hard to understand, except that you failed to read your gospels in full. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
Whoever then relaxes the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Give me a reliable source that shows all Muslims are to believe that "ALL NON-MUSLIMS" are included in the "house of war" category.
To my knowledge, Muslims are only to fight where other Muslims are being OPPRESSED. So yeah, I support the Palestinians' right to fight the Israelis who've kept them in concentration camp like conditions for the past half century. But I believe it's WRONG for Muslims to engage in warfare where the non-Muslims give them equal treatment.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 How many you want?
Mo told his followers to aggressively make war on non-Muslims: 9:5, 29. Sura 9 was one of the last Suras given by Muhammad. Initially, when Muhammad's group was weak, he ordered his followers to try to get along with other people. After the Muslims became powerful, he ordered them to spread Islam by force. Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman continued his wars of aggression. A few of Muhammad’s actions include
MrNickbento 1 year ago
Anyone wonder why the media ignored 10,000 prosters to the building of this mosque in New York? It looks like youtube is blocking the videos of this historic event also. To see it google "Jiihad watch" Plenty of videos!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
I'm very familiar with the Bible. Every complaint coming from a Jew or Christian assures me that you people are utterly unfamiliar with your own Bible.
Islam forbids the killing of women children, & men given to nonviolence. In the Bible, God tells Moses kill them all. In the NT, Paul rants on how cruelly women should be treated, how subservient they should be towards the men. In Islam, women have responsibilities to men and men have to women. The Bible's evil and corrupted.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
All here should google .jihadwatch and
The Peoples Cube..... to see what the media isn't showing us!
Let the truth be known!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@ImanFeisalAbdulRauf- "...we feel 9/11 very, very much, we belong in this area.." You and your kind "feel" absolutely nothing for the "infidel". Liar! You don't belong here! You care first for, Numero-Uno and then for your cult. Promoting Islamic dogma for the enslaving of this nation and the globe is what you're indoctrinate with and seek. You need to find the right people who will help you launder enough "petrol dollar".
GrandeRio01 1 year ago
@GrandeRio01 You are a man of vision into the deception of islam! It is a death cult from hell! Did you ever see the list of beautiful young muslim girls raped and killed and beheaded BY THEIR FATHERS AND BROTHERS in the so called honor killings. We can just start with that I could write a book on the evils of the=is primitive death cult of darkness! HOW CAN A MAN CUT OFF HIS DAUGHTERS HEAD WHILE CHANTING THE SATANIC ALLAH IS GREAT? I think that pretty much sums up this demonn controlled cult!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
Read the Quran you stupid bitch Pamela Geller, you havent got a clue what you are talking about. Exactly what the cnn woman said that americans should not be ignorant against islam due to a terrorist organisation who dont go by the islamic faith, it doesnt promote violence. Dumb people who need to learn how to read.
buttasg1 1 year ago
Islam is not simply a religion, it is also a GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEM, just like Nazism was. Islam is the only widely practiced religion which demands an external law system, and therefor it should not be looked upon and treated as simply a religion. People should think of this when they reference rights and the First Amendment.
simplybornhuman 1 year ago
@simplybornhuman
Clearly you've never read the Old Testament of the Bible.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 Really? does it have Sharia law? Canon law is internal(only deals with believers themselves) BTW. only one problem with other religions is that they still claim authority and special rights (religious indoctrination/misleading) and genital mutalation (circumcision). Other than those, and by far, Islam is the only religion with a full governmental system, and by far, Islam claims authority over the rights and freedoms of others (ie. Saudi-Arabia).
simplybornhuman 1 year ago
@simplybornhuman Well said!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 Why do you think they call it the OLD Test? We have been given a promised New Test. Mo's forgery in the Koran is nothing more then twisted copies of the Old Test where the muslims are still stuck in that stone age mentality, Christians have evolved to the New covenant, I suggest you read the entire Bible starting with the new Test for our age of Grace from God through Yeshua!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Only Christians call it the Old Testament. To the Jews, it's still the Torah.
The New Testament? I know the New Testament quite well. It contains repetitions of a narrative based on a lost gospel, an acid or mushrooms trip via Revelations, and a bunch of bigoted and cruel rules set by the likes of Paul.
"1Tim 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array "
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 I am well aware of the Torah, ShaluShalomYerashalayim
Can you show me Paul teaching his followers to stone the women if they don't obey?
Or cut off their heads? Basically he is saying women should not disrupt the church looking sexy and take the mens minds off off God
NO HEAD CHOPPING OR HONOR KILLINGS! The word of Adonai is foolishness to those that are perishing! If you try to understand the Holy scriptures with out the Holy Spirit, Adonai's word is foolishness to the lost
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Paul doesn't have to repeat what's in the OT. And don't give me that "well, that's the OT" crap. It's still in the Bible. The Jews who were with the Israeli "Lehi" butchered women based on depictions in the OT, cutting out fetuses from dead pregnant arabs, and raping school girls.
I mean, your version of God actually taught your people how to RAPE. Looks up Deutoronomy 21:11. The Quran is FAR more humane and progressive regarding the treatment of people than the Bible is.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 AGAIN what is it you don't under stand about the word NEW Test? The Bible has different dispensations, before the law age, then the law age for primitive man, then the age of grace (now) then the age of the great 7 year coming tribulation! If you know the Bible you will know the different dispensations! Isalm is still stuck in the primitive law and never evolved into the the age of grace! Moving fast toward the tribulation age! It is very simple to understand " Be not decieved
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 Mohammad told his followers to aggressively make war on non-Muslims: 9:5, 29. Sura 9 was one of the last Suras given by Muhammad. Initially, when Muhammad's group was weak, he ordered his followers to try to get along with other people. After the Muslims became powerful, he ordered them to spread Islam by force. Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman continued his wars of aggression.
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
The verses you cite speaks of treaties made near the sacred mosque. It's overwhelmingly obvious that this is in regards to a PARTICULAR conflict in a particular geography, not non-Muslims in general.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 Right tell that to the stupid infidels, I am an infidel that knows better! I could give you 100s of such damning suras. But this is getting old!
I hope you do see the truth before you meet God at your judgment without Jesus salvation covering you, You will be lost as you are now but for eternity, you still have a chance now, study!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Christianity is a cheap religion. The belief that you'll be judged by anything other than your actions is a great comfort for people who want to feel they have license to cheat, lie, kill, dishonor their spouses...And they'll be rewarded regardless because they believe in this myth which you've plagiarized from pagans. I mean, c'mon, the Jesus story isn't even original. The gospels are littered with accounts stolen from the stories of pagan deities.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 كنت تظن أنك حصلت عليه معا ، وأنا أراهن معرفة القرآن الكريم والأحاديث أكثر ثم تعلمون الكتاب المقدس
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 YHWH and ALLAH are not the same beings!
Allah asks his followers to sacrafice their children for him, Oh yea don't forget the 72 virgins (cult of death)
YHWH sacraficed HIS beloved son Yeshua Nebi Isa son of Maryim for all of as the will believe to recieve salvation! No drunking orgy in YHWH's heaven. We shall be as the angels not marrying. We shall be as Yeshua a Spiritual being!
Isalm is a carnal mess of confusion and darkness! Sorry! Keep studying!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
More lies. Children aren't allowed on the battle field.
According to your Bible, Jesus died because he was betrayed and he got caught. His last words were words suggesting a lack of faith: "Lord, Lord, why hast thou forsaken me". What a cowardly thing to say. This notion that he died for out sins is an invention of latter questions who tried to explain away the failure of their supposed messiah.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 Man are you confused, it is harram to speak bad of Nebi Isa.
You are showing how little you know about the word! at that moment HE took on all the sins of the world FOR US that except his salvation YHWH can not look at sin, Jesus human side felt more pain it that moment when the Father turned his back on him then any human that ever lived, then after that Yeshua said Tetelesti in Greek meaning "Paid in full" some translations say "It is finished" Think before baspheming Jesus!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
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MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
I consider Isa and your mixed up version of him u call Jesus to be two different characters. Read P. Perkin's and T.Gandy's studies of the NT and the Jesus myth. Most of what you believe about him are bits and pieces plagiarized from ancient myths. Dying for sins, turning water to wine, "son of god", are all things plagiarized from the stories of Mithras, Bacchus, etc. Your Jesus is poor work of fiction. That is not to say anything of Isa, or Yeshua as the Hebrews knew him.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
WTC "Ground Zero" is not a War Memorial. I think she is just making this along with the rest of the stuff she is saying up as she goes.
rowdyism 1 year ago
funny, because 8 out of 8 mosques i've visited all discuss their loathing of terrorism....
ninja7654 1 year ago
Dang, Pamela really wtfpwn the muslim sympathizers. It was like watching an atheist pwn a creationist.
Bloodthr0e 1 year ago
God bless Pamela Geller. Cordoba is a name used for a mosque built in Spain as
as a sign of conquest 1200 AD, Pamela is right Read the koran and the hadiths and understand what these muslims are doing. America is no Europe or Eurobia they are demmi already. We are Americans Red, White, Brown, Black and Yello and we will fight to the death to keep our freedom. This isn't about race IT IS ABOUT OUR VERY FREEDOM!
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento
Don't buy Pamela's BS.
Of 44 Muslim-majority countries, only 5 countries have any form of Islamic law, and only 2 fully embrace Shariah. The 3 biggest Muslim countries in the world are all Democratic Republics, 2 of them had female heads of state.
Muslims in the US are as American as anyone else. They tend to be better educated than the average American, earn more, etc. This is all according to the US state dept.
So quit the paranoia.
amibidhrohi2006 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 just wait until their numbers increase. Always the same old record replaying itself, over and over again. I am sick and tired of these lemmings, time to put them on the place for once and for all. My life and my future is not going to be taken from me because of some ignorant lazy-minded sadomasochistic tyrant. The secular way is superior.
simplybornhuman 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006 In the Qur'an, Allah commands Muslims, "Take not the Jews and Christians as friends....Slay the idolaters [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them.... Fight against such...as believe not in Allah..." (Surah 5:51; 9:5 etc..).
Qur'an 9:5, known as "the verse of the sword," declares, "Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem."
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@amibidhrohi2006- Obviously you're Muslim. One only has to take a serious look at Europe's population growth. In every region the child-birth to a Muslim family is 3 to1 and increasing. It is being dominated and soon run totally by Islam. "Infidels" have no future there. Every culture is feeling the 'sting' of a serpent's venom. Europe failed to remember history. Lets hope American learns a valuable lesson.
GrandeRio01 1 year ago
@GrandeRio01 I agee 100% It is now Erobia WE ARE AMERICANS we will not bow down to the worshipers of the moon god!
Most will fight to the death before excepting muslim rule as dhimmi's to out muslim masters controlled by jinns (demons)
MrNickbento 1 year ago
@MrNickbento Deeply worries me that the world is so doped.
- If you really wanted to 'bridge the gap' then why would you name it by the name of something that was used to prove defeat??
simplybornhuman 1 year ago
@MrNickbento YYEEEAAAHHHH!!! FREEDOM!!! Stop and think about what you're saying. Go look up the word in a dictionary...just try not to spit it out when it's least relevant in some situation. Seriously, what you said just lacked any form of a point or...some opinion. OK -- for example, you're trying to say something about...the name Cordoba and how...ok, your point?..scratch that. Pamela is right. OK! there you go, you agree! The koran/hadiths...any examples? who? what? FREEDOM!!.......hhoooww?
yazzam 1 year ago
@MrNickbento -Well state Nicki...
GrandeRio01 1 year ago
If it weren't Islam it would have been any of the thousands of groups that the CIA created in which to perpetrate such crimes. WAKE UP to the fact that popies are protect by the US troops, oil it pumped minute to minute and no one says anything about those to crimes, as for the fact that the Perps of the 911 attacks were from Syria, not Iran, not Iraq not Afhganistan, not Pakistan. So by now everyone knows that this is all WAR BY PROXY
clarisd 1 year ago
@clarisd As much as I'm glad people like yourself know this, you are preaching to the choir. :( Sadly, the others won't listen to you. Just like if you were telling them it was daytime and you are outside pointing at the the sun, just blind.....
ninja7654 1 year ago
@clarisd yes, reptilian(i'm using sarcasm) obama is all behind this, watch out. :rolleyes:
simplybornhuman 1 year ago