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  • America... Get your shit together!

  • @Fishstickification It's too late we no longer have control over these leaders they are dogs without leashes now as all the other countries.Might as well kiss our asses goodbye because they don't care about you or me only their agendas.As you see they blame it on science religion and any other thing other than their own problems.Science itself isn't bad but in the hands of these people both are eaqualy destructive.They are all a bunch of greedy bastards.

  • The war is on evolution not science.The only thing that has evolved that we have observed is Technology and Medecine.Theories are just a guess and nothing more than somebodies view on how they consider evidence.And for climate change,the earth has gone thru it's own changes by itself it doesn't mean that we are the ones making it change.Right now they even say we are in some hight of solar flare activity,as this is know by scientists as well.Carbon taxing will not fix the atmosphere Reality.

  • I'm denying Michelle Bachmann. Some say she exists, some say she doesn't. There are hundreds and hundreds of people, some with nobel prizes, who says she doesn't exist. All im saying is that we should not let the goverment take a definite stand in a question thats under debate like this.

  • Intelligent design is retarded. I'm sorry. Once you study biology you see how ridiculous it is.

  • This is why I like msnbc so much more than FOX.

  • good work here

  • The Chinese must be laughing their asses off at how bitchy & bitter USA politicians interfere with science & education. If the brilliant USA scientists move their R&D to China they will get fantastic results. THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING & THE AMERICANS DON'T EVEN KNOW IT. pathetic.

  • very interesting thanks

  • some sweet info here

  • Hundreds and hundreds of scientists...

    Aren't there hundreds of millions of scientists?

  • @matthewtaylorbrown Lol ironically she is accurate with hundreds, 700 out 480, 000 U.S scientists do NOT support evolution...

  • She said, "Obama will be a one-term president!" She seemed pretty confident in her claim. I would wonder how funny it would be if someone edited that clip into older footage from the last campaign. Tee tee hee hee

  • Put all religion on the table then let students decide.

  • Ronald Reagan Jr...Goddamn I love irony!

  • What the fuck! There is no damn controversy over evolution! It's a fucking fact you dumb bitch! Theology is not science!

  • @jc8liter2388 Theology is actually science. It is a science of transcentdental issues. But almost every real theologist will tell you, that the bible is not to be taken as a scientific document and that religion should not interfere with science.

    Just look at the catholic church. Their official statement is, that they belief in evolution and that they strongly disagree with creationism and its way of taking the bible literally.

    Excuse my spelling please, I am not a native english speaker.

  • @RalfWiggum100 Agreed completely. Also, you spell much better than most native English speakers.

  • @jc8liter2388 It is just sad how a few storytellers spread their story and now half of the US beliefs that the earth was created in 7 days -.-

    It is so embarrassing for a great country like the US, because it is the only christian country, which partly denies the evolution. (It is evolution, not evolutiontheory, since it has been proved in many ways and completely accepted by science)

  • Electing believers of pseudoscience and myth to the highest office in the world will be the end of America.

  • @JoeLaTurkeyIII It seems the World is already going to destroy itself with the leaders we currently have.As there hasn't been peace in the world scince the descovery of Oil.And descovering nuclear power diddn't turn out so well either.Most likely science is what will destroy this world if indeed we are contributing to Global warming.And to top it off we need to worry about somebody being stupid and starting a nuclear war.So whats the big deal?Seems we are screwed either way.

  • @korzon There has never been peace, we act like society is so advanced but all that has really happened is living conditions have improved, we still have strife, we still have war, we still have corruption, we still have slavery and we still have idiots as leaders. Science has improved the life of man substantially, to believe that it itself is to blame for the possibility of nuclear war is fallacy. The true blame lies with those who exploit science for destructive means.

  • @Fishstickification I agree with youre first part,but scince has brought us closer to self destruction and men will always be greedy and it is a volitile mix.Some people blame it on religion but if we realy see why wars are made it is simply out of greed and hatred.They just use religion as a scapegoat to cover up their own personal iniquities.Wars are over oil and if they could sell air they would.What good is all this comfort if continues to destroy life?As it destroys more than it helps.

  • Since theists want "both sides" by teaching creationism in schools, science should get it by teaching evolution in churches.

  • Again, the level of American high school students... First learn to read a map and where countries are on it and then come back.

  • I like ron reagan jr a lot more than chris matthews.

  • REasonable doubt? It's like Harry potter vs children science book. What the fuck is wrong with you?

  • "It may be what she believes which indicates a detachment from reality..":-)....nothing more to say...

  • Intelligent design is just crackpot hoo hah.....no science involved just nonsense...

  • I'm not exactly pro-Obama but if America votes for a Republican president in 2012, you guys are so fucked...

  • 8:20  16%?! D-:

  • MAY THE GREAT TURTLE BLESS YOU!

  • Michelle bachman is a prime example of why no woman has held the presidency to date. Seriously, this woman is NOT the best the female population can come up with as a candidate.

  • It's so nice to hear some intelligent americans denounce the retards that seem to hog the air space. There is some hope for the USA.

  • Also when are we finally going to teach that everything revolves around the Earth and that HIV doesn't cause AIDS? We need to teach the controversy!

  • why does her hair look SO big here? It doesn't anywhere else... was she catering to an audience or something?

  • It is time to admit education has no bearing on belief in self deluded people, and politicians. God has become the manifestation of a social--mental--illness, a schizoid relationship with reality because the past was printed and made present.

  • Intelligent design is not science...there is no reasonable doubt. GTFO of the gene pool you fucking waste of oxygen.

  • It's funny how most people bash Michelle Bachman for her creationism but for some strange reason ignore the same idiotic perspective coming from Ron Paul.

  • @ZeerosFate I hear ya on that....Paul is several rungs above Bachmann on the ladder, but he's still a biblebeater, and that makes him completely unfit for any important public office

  • @ZeerosFate cause Paul isn't that crazy on religion.

  • All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! May you all be touched by His noodly appendage...

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  • Ron Reagan always seems like the kind of guy I'd like to have a beer with.

  • "May the Great Turtle bless you"

  • My science teacher doesn't believe in evolution :(

  • @roxyosox122 for real?

  • @roxyosox122

    I live in Ohio we blieve in evolution here ha ha you live in the hick part of the U.S.

  • @roxyosox122 Thumbs down for the teacher. Thumbs up, you wishing for better.

  • Haha America. Country built on great ideas and ideals, and has gone backwards. No wonder they are falling back in science, not just in schools but in industry.

  • lordscully you mean the fifth generation european americans who under the control of media and control media vomit all over the world. But who cares history pass^s without the people in general past present and future will be used-

  • Idiotic broad.

  • Welcome to the Discworld.

  • To all you "evolution deniers", stop going to hospitals and taking our medicine which is wholly founded upon evolutionary biology. Next time a killer virus or bacterium comes to kill all of us, don't look to evolutionary biologists to save your ass. Fucking hypocrites, move to your own state and see how long you live denying evolution.

  • @torontoBluejays87 hey sonny, you have some pretty faulty logic. Just because a pill can help someone get better DOES NOT mean that humans "evolved" from a fish. I don't know about you by im not cousin with a pine tree or a banana.LOL. such a silly concept

  • @Frankelfinkel Hhhhhmmmmmm and how do you think they research vaccines for said viruses? Viruses evolve much much faster than us. You can literally watch 40000 generations go by in a single 5 hour time frame in some cases. If we didn't have evolutionary biologists watching over the new mutations that occur, there would be no developments in vaccine. Like I said, go to your own state, with all of your church going nutcases and see how long you all last without evolutionary biology. Enjoy.

  • @Frankelfinkel Oh another key timbit of fact for you my redneck friend. If you honestly are one of these people who think the universe is only 10000 years old consider this. 10000 light years is not enough room to fit all of the stars we have literally observed in the known universe. We would cook to a crisp if the universe is 10000 years old (I assume you believe that). Why is it, that the closest galaxy to us out of the 100's of billions, is over 2 million light years away? Read a book!

  • Evolution is such a blatant scam, Can't believe people still believe in that crap. Darwin was a nazi and has been discredited. Wake up all you "know-it-all" liberals!

  • @Frankelfinkel

    Sorry. I call Poe's Law on this one.

  • @LoverofWyrd i think he is a legit moron

  • @FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7

    Please have pity on my confidence in the human race. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • @Frankelfinkel lol wut?

  • Now I'm going to say something controversial.. Americans are not idiots. Actually Americans are quite smart generally speaking. But with politics.. WTF?!

  • 00:30 No

    00:40 No

    00:55 ID isn't science

    01:05 No

    How in the world can this woman be so close to actually even be considered to be president of one of the most powerful countries in the world?

  • The government has every reason to choose one side of the arguement when the Creationist side has NO FUCKING EVIDENCE to support it and the Evolutionist side has the support of the vast majority of the scientific community.

  • Let scientists decide what's science, not politicians.

  • @gupsphoo or students.

  • @gupsphoo They have (scientists). Denialists haven't figured that out and are still taking a ride on the clue train.

  • @katetheatheist u need to fight back against this shit. it's crazy for people to be talking like this in the 21st century. it's a genuine threat to children having to be taught this by their parents.

  • @ascendingparadigm it's difficult to know how to change things. teaching children how to think critically would be a good start. education is the key to it. also it would help if people were ridiculed and their idiotic opinions marginalised. the media is as much to blame as anything else. by having these debates on national broadcasts they lend some credence to creationism. these people really should be ignored.

  • There is NO controversy among scientists as to whether evolution is true.

  • what a beautiful and inspiring conversation

  • WOW! Since when did science turn into criminal law? What the hell is "reasonable doubt" in science?

  • Yes, we should teach ALL 'science' - the Flat Earth theory, the geocentric model of the universe, Intelligent falling, etc.

  • Wow, I'm actually finding myself really happy about everything that Reagan is saying! Who knew!

    These backward religious idiots are unbelievably irritating!!!!

  • If evolution is scientific fact, how do atheists explain the ORIGIN of life, and what is one FACT to prove it?

  • @STU7849

    We can create a climate device in a test tube place the needed chmicals in it and wait millions of years for the amino acids to fully form 100% but do you want to fund the maintenance of this costly experiment?

  • @TheMrgoku1985 NO. I certainly do not want to fund such tests. I see your point, and this leads me to two more questions. First, if there is no proof, what is the scientific basis for saying that life formed from non life? Second, if men ever did prove that a cell could form non organic chems, would this not prove that an intelligent mind creating a controlled enviornment was required?

  • @STU7849

    We can It would take millions of years for the amino acids to form do you want to fund the million year maintenance for the devise? and no It would no because they would be recreating the natural environment needed to create the amino acids.

  • @STU7849 No, but under that circumstances life as we know it, could rise from it, and is not a "controlled environment" , they are "reproducing" similar scenarios to what COULD be ( estimative ) but that is enough to predict other results and a chain reaction that would lead at some point blocks that can replicate themselves..and get under the natural selection process. Even planets, orbits, moon black holes are part of the cycle of "natural selection" is not something exclusive to "life"

  • @STU7849 Google is your friend, search up the Millay-Urey experiment if you want proof that life comes form non-life. BTW the theory of evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, Christians can and do believe in the theory of evolution.

  • oops, just saw your reply. Miller did not prove that life comes from non life. He proved that an intelligent life can cause amino acids to form. In order to create a cell, you need DNA, RNA, and protien. The origin of life has EVERYTHING to do with the theory. Even dawkins said that the whole poiint of evolution is that life just happend.

  • @STU7849

    Actually no. What Miller showed is that if one duplicates conditions akin to the early earth amino acids can form on their own. That he set up the conditions does not mean the conditions had to be set up by an intelligent designer in the first place. Subsequent tests with more accurate blends of elements have given us even better results.

    DNA, RNA and Proteins are made from amino acids.

    Your last line is out of context, is dishonesty godlike?

  • @ThieleM You are a fool, UNscientific, and I'm not taking your bait.

    To everyone else, nothing I said above was dishonest. Dick Dawkins actually said that. In those words. It was not taken out of context. Do your research.

  • @STU7849

    I offered no bait and Dr Dawkins quote cannot be used, honestly, in the manner STU tried to use it.

    He is an entirely dishonest poster.

  • @STU7849 An "intelligent mind" would by definition have to be alive. Where did the matter and energy to form this intelligent mind originate and what caused the intelligent mind to come into existence? How did the intelligent mind learn in isolation from other minds? Does the intelligent mind still exist and can you demonstrate it's existence?

  • @STU7849 Oh my science you are stupid as fuck huh ? Evolution and the origin of life is not the same thing .

  • no wonder our country is in such a mess; atleast half of the people are retarded.

  • Hey I've got an idea, maybe Ron Reagan can run as President for the Repig Party nomination...hell since they just LOVE the *legacy* (fallacy) of Reagan's disastrous/ criminal administration and since most of the Reugnant voters appear to be cluelesss bible-thumping morons. I think Ron, Jr. would have a better chance of winning the nomination than the bunch of useless idiots running now, led by the batshit crazy Bachmann...the retards will just see Reagan's name on the ballot & pull the lever!

  • Y'know, after looking deeper into the background of the current (and former) politicians, maybe we shouldn't teach our kids that anyone can grow up to be president :S

  • She says there is a scientific controvery but i've yet to meet a single scientist in my life who didn't acknowledge evolution

  • China's leaderships comes from SCIENCE and ENGINEERING...... America's leaderships comes from religious nut cases and people like Dick Cheney.

    I Place my bets on china.

  • David Corn looks like a grown up Eddie Munster! but yeah.. FUCK CREATIONISM!!

  • How did he come from Ronald Reagan's sperm?

  • Eleven percent of adult Americans can't identify the US on an unlabeled globe. What do you expect of them?

  • I'm sorry but america your fucked

  • I Am Intelligently Designed To know Rellgion Is Superstitious Nonsense

  • I'd like to correct something. The world is NOT a lump of cheese on the back of a turtle, it is in fact congealed milk on the back of a TORTOISE. GET IT RIGHT.

  • @seunketchup88 Ha. That made me lol.

  • Hehe, inbread PeggyMarySues in rural America trying to "fight science!. The rest of the world isn't, so you'll be run over by medicine, technology and all the other things that leave your faith-healers or preachers out of business! Yeehah! ; )

  • she's dumb! crikey please don't vote for this mad woman!

  • I got to say I don't like this one. There are so many other issues with Bachmann to point out. Like how she is ant-homosexual, how she wants to combine church and state, etc. But instead they argue her point on letting people decide for themselves on what they want to believe in. I for one believe in letting people decide for themselves on what that want to believe in. Then they go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with what they were talking about in the first place....

  • @ChameleonLost88 Shut up. If a person wishes to believe in some idiotic idea that denies reality then fine, but when it could be a potential leader then its wrong and they needs some hard facts to back up their claim, and to even think that an alternative to evolution should be taught in schools alongside it is absurd. I am 17 years of age and am correcting someone who is most likely older than me..... what a sad country, and when I do plan on moving to Sweden.

  • @shankerman10 SHUT UP EVIL ATHEIST YOU R WRONG GIT OUTA MI COUNRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @shankerman10 It's our country too bastard

  • @shankerman10 Shut up? Really? Anyway... News flash, you can be an American and be a christian, Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan, Atheist, Agnostic, Buddhist or whatever and still be an elected official in this country and lead. All I am saying is that there is so much more evidence against Michele Bachmann being a leader, that bringing up her position on people choosing for themselves what they want to believe in is absurd. Truth is, she's not for ppl having a choice, that should have been pointed out.

  • It's ironic when people like her talk about intelligent design. After all, aren't they living proof against the concept?

  • @redjirachi1 you hit the nail on the head! I might have to borrow this line :)

  • Do not vote an idiot just like Michelle Bachmann who has a husband who fix gays.

  • *She is a

  • I was happy to see a woman try to go so far, but then so dissapointed to see she'd a dumbass.

  • I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

  • @SirBedevir I hear ya, but sadly we are stuck on this rock with people like this. It just blows my mind that people like Bachmann are in positions of power in this country.

  • @mmawilldesha I want to volunteer for a mission to Mars. Just so I can live on Mars and hopefully get away from creationists.

  • @thacuban13 I know dude, creationists are a pain in the ass.

  • @SirBedevir How do we leave? (Without them!)

  • When you actually look at tall the flaws of living organisms I'd say "Clumsy Design" is a more appropriate name.

  • If she believes in putting all science on the table then that automatically dismisses intelligent design... and she doesn't want government saying that intelligent design can't be taught in the classroom but I'm pretty sure she is one of the same people that would ban the teaching of evolution if given the choice

  • I love watching Science documentaries. The exquisite wonder of how amazing this Universe is and how it all unfolded is a continuous source of awe. I pity those who have been brainwashed by religion to the point that all they can say when they see what Science has uncovered is "it's all bullshit". They think Atheists are missing out on the glory of God's creation but in fact they're the ones missing out on the wonders of nature. It's surprising to see so many deluded people in the 21st century.

  • MORON DESIGN, this has nothing to do with science of any kind and anyone who believes it does is a MORON, idiot and is unworthy of life its self

  • The only reason Michele Bachmann is pushing the Inteligent Design a.k.a. Creationism Theory, is because she is getting lobby funds from the American Family Association and American Family Radio. Both are large Christian Fundamentalist organizations. Someone that takes funds from this sort of place and is willing to put their values and ideals to the side for an office position to push another organizations ideals obviously is not going to do right unless its for money interests.

  • I'm gay, and Mrs. Bachmann, I was not abused as a child. Actually talk to gay people before you speak for them.

  • @GobHobblin haha, you dont have to say that. we all know she (and all her followers) is insane.

    and with her husband saying gays are an abomination(while obviously being closeted) , it just further proves shell never learn

    so disgusting huh?

  • @smokelakes yep yep

  • @styrmirr86 This can happen in a country that is rapidly BECOMING a third world country!

  • This is the most refreshing news article I've watched in a while.

  • Facts have no place in religion or the republican party.

  • This is scary shit. In the cold war did the right side win?

  • americans are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet. no other country is having this bullshit in politics or has a population that (half of them anyway) believes in creationism. the rest of civilisation is laughing at americans. politicians are supposed to be intelligent, they have to run the country for fuck sake. a european politician saying they believed in creationism would become immediately unelectable. you americans who do have brains need to put a stop to this shit. aren't you ashamed

  • @lordscully That's a pretty extreme statement. Actually, American science garners more citations than that from any other nation so they are clearly not all stupid. Its just that a huge number think that you can choose to believe the ideas that are most palatable to you rather than those supported by evidence. Babara Ehrenreich has written a book about this, "Brightsided", about how forcing positive ideas on people caused guilt about having rational thoughts, and also caused the GFC.

  • @lordscully What is the solution???

  • @lordscully trust me the half that don't believe in creationism are very ashamed and are sick of the bullshit.

  • @lordscully i refuse to be ashamed for other people's stupidity....people who have brains have two options:

    a: talk at the walls that are politicians who are scientifically illiterate just to keep creationism out of schools,but not eliminating it.

    b: leave the country and let the fuckers run themselves into the ground.

    i personally am starting to get tired of talking to walls.

  • @lordscully fuck yeah dude america sucks dick butt theres not much you can do when the whole country is full of retards

    the best thing you can do is either move or just stab yourself in the ears so you can be deaf

  • @lordscully I live in Canada, and am very grateful to be in a country where this isn't even a debate. It is remarkable that I am literally an hour away from the USA border yet our country doesn't seem to have this problem. We have many other problems, granted, that most other civilized countries have, but trying to convince politicians that evolution is indeed a fact, is not one of those problems. I hope all of you rational Americans never give up! This will change at some point!

  • @lordscully You said it. only 17% have passports, and 1 in 10 have been abducted by aliens.

    Its really scary. Really scary. A country dangerously close to being run by retards, and the most powerful country in the world. Where are you, all you rational thinkers!!? time to make your voice heard..

  • @lordscully as an American with brains, i can tell you that it is very embarrassing for us. facts have absolutely no bearing on these people and they think the scientific community is a political group with a "liberal agenda". when confronted with facts to support evolution, they say things like "why should scientists have the only say about this?" or "why is it always about the science with you people?"... that being said, we're running out of ideas and things seem to only be getting worse.

  • @leahsetag

    We can make things better, leah. Grassroots movement. We need to help people understand the importance of science. Don't give up just yet.

  • @lordscully Clearly you have never heard of the numerous countries in the Middle East or Arfica.

  • why is okay to believe that the world is a lump of cheese on the great turtle's back? NO... that's NOT okay. It's retarded. Just like the idea that we were created by a god that had himself nailed to a cross in order to forgive us for a crime we didn't commit, so that he doesn't have to send us to a horrible place that doesn't actually exist. People need to wake the @#$& up!

  • How can people deny evolution? REALLY??? You've got to be kidding me.

  • Has it become the dearest ambition of the republican party to have a totally unqualified, borderline retarded, unellectable, & attractive woman to be commander and chief of this nation? Do they WANT to destroy the country? On purpose? One has to ask....

  • Bachmann is both ignorant and is misleading people...she has no right to even think about running for president...she's a totally idiot.

  • its nice to see 3 clear minded intelligent americans having a discussion about evolution, without someone saying jesus did it.

  • So all of America has one goal, and that is overthrowing the Democrats. No, not reducing the debt. Not winning the war on terror. Not winning the war on drugs. Not improving education. Not solving the problem of illegal immigration. Not lowering the world's highest incarceration rate. Not putting an end to the violence that results in 10000 deaths a year cause by firearms. Just get my political opponent out of the Oval Office. This woman is worse then Sarah Palin.

  • @c0p13dn4m3

    There is no real war on terror or drugs, both are flawed concepts to begin with, as well as the concept of illegal immigration. Firearm deaths per person is actually at an low in the US, though the media sure loves to cover it more these days. Education is actually more of an issue of 2 things, bad parenting and schools providing less educational materials and more busy work. The debt will work itself out once we stop our silly practices.

  • @nidodson The war on drugs is quite real, but the war on terror is a joke of course. Still, US armed forces are present in two Middle-Eastern countries they shoudn't be in in the first place, and got their ass kicked. But to say the highest deficit in the world will work itself out is a bit harsh.

  • @c0p13dn4m3

    In what way is the war on drugs and the war on terror any different? Neither have tangible targets or goals that could be claimed as realistic given how mankind is.

    Though we have a high deficit, we also have a high net worth. The deficit could be taken care of surprisingly quick with a few major changes, but our federal government is too greedy and power hungry to allow any of them to happen, they thrive on the fear. (Both parties.)

  • @nidodson I don't agree with the war on drugs. What I meant was the U.S. government takes it seriously, while the real enemy is hiding in Pakistan. Someone invaded the wrong countries.

  • Evolution only explains Adaptation not Speciation.

    Naturalism also has no Origin for Life or the Universe Savvy?

  • @iwanttocrashmybike

    Adaptation over a long period of time results in specialization. You are arguing that dinosaurs didn't evolve into birds. That argument is no different than if you would say old people don't age over a long period of time from babies.

    Here are the facts, we can take the DNA from a baby and the DNA from the same person when they are 60, and prove it is the same person. We have take DNA from dinosaurs and birds and then proven their family tree.

  • @nidodson Well considering the old people reference has to do with Aging not Evolution,it realy doesn't apply.

    Of course we share Genetic Material with every other Creature on Earth,Were all made from the same stuff.

    Consciousness itself dictates that the source of life is in part a type of consciousness.Either our Organic Matter(S) were Given or Gained it,MAtter(S) have COnscoisness,and since all Matter(S) are compressed Energy,Consciousness is a type of Energy.

  • @iwanttocrashmybike

    Actually, aging does apply very well. Many people like you expect to see a crocoduck, which would be as if a baby has an old man's head. Your boldly false assumption as are based on your lack of knowledge of the subject material you are choosing to talk about.

  • @nidodson Wow,Crocoduck really?

    I made no such claim.You seem to think I'm talking about "magic" which would be unnatural or Supernatural.

    I'm talking about the Natural Laws here bud.

    The old man is following his Genetic code that hes been given,where as what your talking about is his offspring taking that DNA combined with its Mother,to create a selected mutation(S) to create a New strand of DNA,which would be called N.S. eh?

  • @iwanttocrashmybike

    An old man aging is a gradual progression over time effected by environmental factors. In identical twins we can see minute or drastic differences in that progression due to environmental factors. That split is still a split, just like speciation. Though they are not the exact same, they are good analogies to one another. The changes in man's life are based on many factors in life. Long story short, speciation is longer story than a moment, which you are look at.

  • @nidodson Yes,the guy changes,but he doesn't turn into a Chicken now does he?Yes like Alcoholism becomes Genetically inherent things are affected by stimuli from other things,but the Alcoholics are still humans eh?They didn't grow a 3rd arm or wings or revert back to apes eh?The radical shift in DNA supports I.D. Along w/Genesis

    Also the Twins can still ....anyway eh?

    Also you seem to have conceded that the rings species can still interbreed so I'm assuming there was no objection to that eh?

  • @iwanttocrashmybike

    See right there, you defined the person as an alcoholic though. You even reference a change in disposition to alcohol. You keep making those types of changes for 10,000 generations, they will be far different than their ancestor from today. Alcohol wouldn't influence an ancestor to grow wings, the need to jump would, and those wings can manifest as skin, like the flying squirrel.

  • @iwanttocrashmybike

    We are all 4 basic chemicals of genetic material, but we share 98%+ of the same genetic order chemical by chemical as a bonobo chimp. Monkeys are ~94% depending on how closely related we are. The further apart the relationship between 2 animals, the greater the difference their DNA has.  Lets say an animal's DNA is a book. The human book and the monkey book is billions of pages long, and 94% of it is word for word the same. That is more than the same stuff.

  • @nidodson True,I as you and everyone else is made of the "same" Matter(S) that were all together at the Soure point of the BB,but now Our Organic Matter(S) which are Basically Energy(S) in a different form,have Consciousness.Given or Gained the capacity is there.So that now as Neurons Consciousness itself is Energy(S)/MAtter(S),If the Universe is self replicating as in that it comes from itself(like GOD ironically)than COnsciosness itself must be a part of it eh?

  • @iwanttocrashmybike

    Consciousness is brain activity. That brain activity is a biochemical reaction. Consciousness can NOT exist without a physical brain. This is common knowledge within the psychology and biology community, as well as the fact that souls definitively and absolutely do not exist. A brain does not have to be biological, it can be made of computer hardware even, and still have consciousness.

  • @nidodson Well obviously the Watson,can be considered as Conscious,but it doesn't feel Pain,Anger,Love.Nor can it think beyond the Physical Savvy?

    True Our brains hold our consciousness,but as Neuroscience can't find Intentionality in the Brain One would reasonably conclude that Consciousness is not limited to the Brain,Even you concede that Consciousness is tangible as in Matter(S),which means that it comes from Energy,obviously Energy takes many forms,thats why we have different Mattertypes

  • @iwanttocrashmybike

    The Watson is like a single cell organism, it doesn't feel pain, anger or love. If you b