Fucking creationists, they are fucking mind closed, they think everything created by magic in 6 fucking days (because God rest in the 7th dat). Stop watching harry potter.
'proven that mutations do not accumulate' what does that even mean? the genome can be seen as one big mutation-fest, so yeah it accumulate's. where is this so called proof?
'the genome...that it has' again what does that mean to you? single nucleotide mutations (SNP's) can have remarkable effects on phenotype. but besides that i dont really get your point, its limited in the amount of variation? so what? compared to apes?
'not enough actual verifiable history for it to happen' 3rd sentence in a row that doesnt make any sense. I seriously do not understand what you are saying here. do you mean there isnt enough proof? or do you actually mean to say that there is proof against it? i dunno I dont know what to say, there is so much proof.
last sentence; oke well not remotely enough room here to argue that, but lets agree to disagree.
@tomsan84 You seem to be at a loss of words when it comes to your "proof".
There is no evidence of any evolution because mutations do not accumulate. There is a limited amount of variation in each of the species. That is a proven fact.
@JungleJargon why do mutations not accumulate? what do think cancer is? A species is defined by its genome, so yeah there SHOULD be a limited amount of variation within a species, thats almost its definition. rephrasing your earlier points dont make them more valid.
Ill end this discussion right here, with a nice appeal to authority; I am a biomedical engineer, I have a lot of knowledge about- and experience with mutations. I have a strong feeling you have no clue what youre talking about.
In order to have authority, you have be able to back up what you are saying. If not, you have no authority.
I am glad you were able to conceed that the genome is limited. That is an important thing to establish.
I already know that the fossils are life forms that died in the flood because no one has been able to account for millions of cubic miles of sediments contained in the strata resulting from the flood.
@tomsan84 Cancer is not viable and it does not caus variations leading to evolution..
Sorry I did not see this comment sooner.
The genome is the only thing that is able to reorganize the genome. Nothing else can. Natural selection can only select what is reorganized by the genome. There is no direction in mutations so they never organize anything. So where is this evolution that you are talking about?
You need over 50,000 morphological changes for actual evolution to take place.
@JungleJargon The point is, if ONE average sized lake can produce Twenty Five million acre feet of sediment in 28 years (which geologically speaking, is nothing, it is a miniscule amount of time) then all the rivers. Lakes, Ponds, Oceans, streams etc etc on the planet, could easily produce even a billion cubic miles of sediments in even 1000 years. A geologically active planet can produce trillions of miles of sediments. This planet has been active for Billions of years. Do the math, tool.
@JungleJargon' Eroded into the ocean in 20 million years' lol... I can instantly picture the creationist website you got that bogus information from. Go ask a geologist you desperate muppet.
@MegaLolburger The over100 million cubic miles of conscutive layers of micro sediments deposited by the flood did not come from any website and you cannot explain that either. It amounts to over a mile of consecutive layers of micro sediments that were deposited in rapid succession.
@JungleJargon You have got to be a troll, and if you are bravo sir. Go ask a geologist, you know, somebody who has actually studied this. Read a geography text book, look on google (not on creationist websites) etc.
I think you dont want to because you are scared that you'll be wrong. Nah screw that, you are just plain stupid.
@MegaLolburger You are afraid to consider where the over 100 million cubic miles of consecutive layers of micro sediments came from or how they came to cover everything that was living on earth.
@JungleJargon Could you please elaborate, All I keep seeing is this nonsense about micro sediments and 100 million cubic miles - and the only reference to anything I find on it is -suprise suprise - a creationist website. Do you mean how dirt dust etc keep gaining?
Tell any religious biologist, chemist, physicist, geologist etc any of the bogus crea- tard 'facts' you have been spurting on here and they will laugh in your face just as much as we Atheists have.
@JungleJargon Stop making the US look worse than it already does. And i know you are from the US without even having to ask. I live here too. And its humiliating enough how bad our educational system is. Then people like you come along and show the results of it. The world laughs their asses off at our childish immaturity and you are not helping. So get off your knees and stop trying to telepathically communicate with a invisible Jew in the sky. Its embarrassing.
@JungleJargon Nonsense. If there was a global flood ALL fossils would be jammed into 1 thin layer of Earth, and they are not. Even a kindergarten science book can disprove something as silly as a worldwide flood. If the water covered everything, then where did it drain to? If it covered the highest mountains, then Earth would be a frozen ice world with air too thin to breathe. Your high school education does not come close to any scientists education. Stop fantasizing that you are smarter.
@JabberCT The mountains themselves consist of the sediment layers deposited by the flood. The mountains were pushed up after the flood when the water settled in the oceans and formed the ocean plates that press against the continents pushing up the mountains.
You did not say where 60 million cubic miles of sediments came from or how they got there.
@JungleJargon Im not sure where you get this 60 million cubic miles number from. Probably a apologetic website written by someone who knows nothing about the planet. But i would guess its a lot more than 60 million. Louisiana alone dumps 250,000 cubic miles of sediment into the ocean every year, which results in the loss of about 10 square miles of wetlands. Now consider all the coastal land on Earth over billions of years. Im sure that was left out of the equation on whatever site you read.
@JabberCT I know that it is more. I just don't know how much more because the land area of the continents themselves is only 57 million square miles. If there is an average of just over a mile deep of sediments that were deposited, that puts the number around 60 million square miles but I am sure it is much more.
@transtlantic Unconformities are allowed in a global flood and many of them happened after the flood anyway.
It doesn't matter how the sediments were sequenced. What matters is that they were laid down and only a global flood could do it so there is nothing you can say.
The fossils are evidence there was a global flood and there is nothing you can do about it.
Dendrochronology is the science that proves you easily wrong.
ofc it does matter how sediments are sequenced. floods can't brake the laws of physics.
what matters is that heavier objects go faster down than lighter objects. try it on your bathtub. and we see heavier objects on top of lighter ones. so..
the fossils are evidence that there was no flood. 3 ton fossils on top of 3 gr fossils = no possibility for a flood.
@transtlantic Only a global flood is able to deposit 60 million cubic miles of sediments on top of all life forms that ever existed.
Tree ring "chronology" is absurd guessing.
The sea floors are always found on the bottom. You can count on it. Layers were being deposited on top of each other and burying whatever was mixed in and carried by those sediments.
The most well preserved dinosaur on display in Houston was proved to have drowned. Mammoths have also been proven to have drowned.
@JungleJargon there was no global flood. because more than 1 trillion cubic miles of sediments are moved around by a geological active planet. you are not covered with sediments, you dumbshit.
Dendrochronology is the science that proves you easily wrong. anyone can GOOGLE the term and see you wrong. your assumptions do not subtitute the scientific fact that you are wrong.
The sea floors can rise. as proven.
Most dinosaurs observed have been proven to have died from natural death. you fail.
@transtlantic Geologic activity does not deposit 60 million cubic miles of sediments on all life forms on earth. Only a global flood is able to do that. They layers of sediments did not fall from the sky.
Tree ring "chronology" is guessing. It is not a fact that dates can be matched up because all of the trees were buried at the same time by the same 60 million cubic miles of sediments.
Sea floors are pushed up and they will still be on the bottom.
@JungleJargon Of course it does, this planet is a few billion years old. I get the feeling that you think this planet has remained the same for the last 4 billion years. In actual fact this planet has undergone drastic changes; and it still is. It's why we find -for example- ancient whale skeletons in the middle of deserts in Nothern Africa. There was no great flood because if there had been every fossil would be found on the same layer. You are so ignorant to reality that it is embarrassing.
@MegaLolburger No, those tree rings were all buried at the same time under the same 60 million cubic miles of sediments that buried all life forms on earth.
FYI, tree rings rot under normal circumstances and it still does not buy enough time for evolution to happen anyway. Actual tree rings date back to the time of the flood.
@JungleJargon No they weren't you utter fool. This supposed flood happened 4000 years ago, yet there is no historical record of it happening by civilizations that were around at the time, There is no geological evidence for it happening and the only reference to it is in a 2000 year old book written by desert nomads.
If you can do basic math you can disprove it. It shouldn't even be a topic of discussion, its ridiculous.
FYI, WPN-114 that was felled in 1964 was 5000 years old.
@JungleJargon All from the same book. That same book also says over 5 billion species fit on a single boat with dimensions that would render that impossible. Is it really worth explaining? It CANT happen, there is NO evidence outside of the Bible that it happened. If you want to use a book as evidence there is more evidence that Unicorns exist than any global flood. One growth ring represents a year. It's accepted fact for God's sake. How can you be so ignorant of reality?
@JungleJargon Again you are blissfully ignorant of facts... have you not heard of plate tectonics? Bloody hell mate this is a pathetic attempt to hold onto your faith.
@MegaLolburger The land areas consist of layers of sediments deposited by the floods. Plate tectonics cannot deposit layers of sediments like that, it can only push them up into moutain chains after the layers of sediments have been deposited.
@JungleJargon This wasn't about the layers you said there is no other way of depositing 60 million cubic miles of sediments.
If you want to talk about layers your whole bullshit argument can be put to rest immediately; if there was a global flood that ended most life ALL fossils would be found on the SAME LAYER.
Other evidence for the lack of flood include no mention of it by civilizations at the time, and the fact there hasnt been a global extinction even for 65 million years. Argument, over.
@MegaLolburger All fossils were not in the same place so they would not be buried together with life forms that were in different places.
The global flood was 4400 years ago that buried all life on earth. There are over 200 accounts of the same flood with the same details as one family, a large boat, animals and birds released to see if it was safe outside.
Only a global flood is able to deposit arond 100 million cubic miles of sediments that make up all of the continents and mountain chains.
dendrochronology is a science that allows by DIRECT observation to prove that the earth is older than 11,000 years.
there are no accounts of biblical floods. none. zero.
Heavy objects go down quicker than lighter objects in water. we see heavy fossils on top of smaller fossils. ergo it's a physical impossibility a global flood.
dendrochronology is a science that allows by DIRECT observation to prove that the earth is older than 11,000 years. your accusation of fabrication is without support. your straw man moves nothing.
there are no accounts of biblical floods. none. zero.
Heavy objects go down quicker than lighter objects in water. we see heavy fossils on top of smaller fossils. ergo it's a physical impossibility a global flood.
@JungleJargon No according to you all fossil bearing strata were deposited by the Flood then all the animals which became fossils were alive then. Therefore all extinct land animals had representatives aboard the ark So any and all 'fossils' would be found on the same LAYER not place
No. The only references to it are in the Bible. If you claim otherwise provide EVIDENCE
100 mil? You said 60 mil before this. Your argument is fundamentally flawed, inconsistent and you fail to grasp basic geology.
@MegaLolburger You fail to grasp the volume of the sediments deposited on top of all life forms on earth which also make up the material that all the continents and mountain chains consist of.
There was a lot going on at the time with sediments coming up for all over with the water that was coming up from underground and there is no need for things to be in the same layers even though they are found in the same layers.
@JungleJargon I understand the numbers -which you are evidently making up, no one can know how many sediments are deposited on all the current fossils- what you don't understand is that geological activity alone can do that. That's not even taking into account other factors. Yes there is, look up stratiagraphy.
Carbonate hardgrounds disprove the global flood along with an abundance of other evidence including basic math & no mention of it by humans alive at the time. How can you disprove that?
@MegaLolburger Only a global flood is able to deposit sediments in layers stacked like pancakes extending at times from continent to continent. There is nothing you can say.
There are over 200 separate acounts of the same flood with the same details. We have accounts, records and geneologies of people living before the flood. We have descriptions of how different the world was before it was destroyed by the flood.
@JungleJargon No As I said before a global flood would deposit the fossils on the same layer. As for the layering of sediments that is a terrible argument. Look up Diagenesis. So yes, there is something I can say. We have a very full scientific understanding of why there are layers. Is this your question all along? Why there are layers? I could have solved this much earlier
All of that was within the same book.Care to explain how civilizations at the time were blissfully unaware of this flood?
@MegaLolburger What law is there that would restrict all dead things to one layer?
There are many layers because of the many sediments that came up out of the ground at the time of the flood.
Everything on earth died in the flood that swept over all land areas and deposited sediments that now make up all of the continents and mountain chains there are in the world.
The only survivors were our anscestors in the Ark and the animals they took with them. Everything else was drowned and buried.
@JungleJargon A sedimentary layer from the Mesozoic Era for example, would contain fossils of dinosaurs. It's simple.
No there are many layers because of Diagenesis. When sedimentation continues, an older rock layer becomes buried deeper as a result. The lithostatic pressure in the rock increases due to the weight of the overlying sediment. This causes compaction. This is BASIC stuff you poor blinded fool. This is FACT. REALITY. Wake up.
Cheetahs nearly went extinct around 10,000 years ago. As a result, they have little to no genetic diversity. You can perform tissue transplants from any cheetah to any other with little concern for tissue rejection.
If the same occurred to EVERY species 5000 years ago, we would see the same results.
There was no flood.
The evidence is piling against you. This shouldn't be a topic of discussion. Only morons can object reality in the face of evidence.
@JungleJargon Exactly, so most of the races would not exist and we would have little to no genetic diversity.
You are not covered in sediments dipshit. Between 1935 and 1963, about 91,000 acre-feet of sediment was deposited in Lake Mead each year. And that is just one lake. Do the math buddy. Only a moron can still reject reality in the face of evidence. How can you be so thick? Utter garbage, if you ever read a science book you would know that.
@JungleJargon 8 people is plenty of diversity? Are you serious? There were more cheetahs than that at the time of them going nearly going extinct, and they hardly have any diversity.
No, you are a moron who has been permitted to live by society. How your brain dosen't implode from your stupidity is mind blowing.
Like I said, ONE average sized lake produced twenty-five million two hundred thousand acre feet of sediment in 28 years. ONE lake.
@MegaLolburger Cheetahs lost their diversity because they specialized too much.
All races of humans can have viable offspring with each other. That shows how much our genome is the same. All races can have similar facial features and phenotypes. Just the color is different.
Do you even know what millions of years is?
Niagra Falls would be eroded back to Lake Erie by now.
That sediment is nothing compared to more than 100 million cubic miles of sediments that make up all of the continents.
@JungleJargon geologic activity moves the entire planet. way over 60 million cubic miles of sediments. there was no flood. no evidence for one.
lot's of sediments fall from the sky. after a vulcano explosion for example.
Tree ring chronology is DIRECT counting of tree rings. how is that guessing? all people have to do is google: Dendrochronology is the science that proves you easily wrong. anyone can GOOGLE it.
@MegaLolburger Did you respond to the wrong person? lol. I know the planet is billions of years old and agree with everything you said. Im not religious. :)
@JungleJargon the last mass extinction was a bit more than 4400 years ago , also a mass flood is illogical you do realise , there is is certain amount of water on the planet , where did this magical water come from , space rain ?
@MultiLolgasm Water came from above and from below. The water from above came in the form of rain and water from below came up from the ground and by some accounts, was pushed up into the air.
@JungleJargon so please tell me what all of these are ? Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event, Triassic–Jurassic extinction event , Permian–Triassic extinction event , Late Devonian extinction and Ordovician–Silurian extinction event. all proven evidence of evolution science , and completely defies god ,
@JungleJargon you are the one that says all the layers were fromed by a flood , this would leave one layer , i am saying that there is evidence of mass extinction spanning hundreds of milliions of years , it in the grand canyon. you have no knowledge of sedimentary rock or evolution or anything about this kinda thing
@MultiLolgasm There would be as many layers as there would be time and material.
Of course there was a mass extinction, it was caused by the flood that buried everything living on earth in over 100 million cubic miles of consecutive layers of micro sediments
@JungleJargon there were 5 mass extinctions , i dont know all the names but ordocial and devonian were some of them, and the layers have been dated back before 4000 yeaars ago , and also the flood did not kill everything on earth or we would all be micro orgasms again , and floods dont kill fish , your science and logic is flawed by real science and evidence, and it is impossible for the whole world to be submerged in water seeing as there is a set amount of water on the planet
@MultiLolgasm In order for the layers of sediments to be consecutive layers of micro sediments, the have to have been deposited in rapid succession.
Global floods do kill and bury fish.
If there was no global flood, all of the sediments would be in the oceans instead of being on land where they are found.
The mountains are much higher today than what they were before the flood. The land areas now consist of sediments deposited by the flood and what was pushed up after the flood.
@JungleJargon global flood is impossible there is not enough water in the earth to flood it unless the earths surface was pretty much completely flattened and smooth. but your sediment theory is wrong and you know it , the fossils have been dated to millions of years ago , im guessing you have had all your education from christians, please if you do not want to accept science as life go and live in a cave, you are making humanity look bad
@MultiLolgasm The ocean is deeper than commercial aircraft fly high. We can measure the mountains being pushed up. The obviously went up faster in the past and still have not reached as high as they are going to become. It is the pressure of the oceans that is causing the ocean plates to push up the mountains.
Christians care more about the truth than any secular teachers.
The sediments are on land and the only way for them to get there is with a global flood and oceans sinking.
@JungleJargon no not global flooding global shifting, you do not understand that water cannot appear out of no where or simply leave the planet, global flooding is impossible , and please stop repeating yourself, it only proves that you are brainwashed
@MultiLolgasm The oceans sank. That is the reason they are not covered with the sediments that are on land.
You failed to account for the over 100 million cubic miles of consecutive layers of sediments that make up every continent including Antarctica and cover everything that was living on earth.
Address the issues and stop using slander and ad hominem attacks, they only show you have nothing valid to say.
@JungleJargon i have used facts and evidence deal with it. and i have accounted for all sediment, dating back millions of years , please tell me if you were a scientist should you be open to other ideas as all scientist are, the greatest scientists that ever lived wre those who were determined to go deeper into unknown areas and have mad theories, and please do not think you are being righteous christianity is the most violent of all religions
@MultiLolgasm You don't even know what 100 million cubic miles of sediments are let alone telling me how they all came to cover everything living on earth.
Stop slandering Christianity, there is no violence in Christian teaching.
I will stick with the observable evidence that hydrogen working inside of us, when ordered, proves we have a Maker.
You failed to explain why the oceans do not have the same sediments that are on land. Billions of years would erode them into the oceans.
@JungleJargon i know what sediment is and how it works, i know how fossilization occurs and i know that your theory is impossible and that there are fossils of dinosaurs in the sedimentary rock that are from before 10,000 years, so if yo would kindly PM me on how amazing hydrogen is inside our body i will happily educate you on such matters. you see the use oh hydrogen and its polarity with water are all scientific , now please stop repeating the same facts which i have already proven wrong
@JungleJargon this is impossible because the theory of a maker is infinite, but it is just an excuse forr those who are afraid of searching for the real origins of the universe, evolution is 100 proven though i don't see how you can go against it
@JungleJargon but how does it overcome antibiotics with out evolving and changing its dna, its been proven that that's what it does. it has developed resistance to forms of penecillin which it previously wasnt, i think you need to explain how it evolved without evolution
@MultiLolgasm The very possibility is made possible by the preexisting genome. The possibilities are not endless. Nothing would be happening without already having the genome. It did nothing to change the bacteria into something else.
@JungleJargon no that is why mrsa is so dangerous it evolved to be more resistant before it almost everything was susceptible to a form of penicillin, mrsa evolved in hospitals to have an imunity to it , it was not already in the genome
@MultiLolgasm I did not say it was in the genome, I said the possibility was there in the genome. If mrsa could evolve, it would have sprouted wings. The possibilites are not endless. There's a limit to what a genome is able to do. That is the reason there are no natural blue roses. The genome is able to work around obstacles although it cannnot do anything. It is the genome offering the selection. Mutations have little or nothing ot do with it. Evolution needs millions of changes.
@JungleJargon mrsa could not spout wings straight away as it has no need to and has no muscles to use them, and there are no blue roses because red roses were much more succesful , the roses with a bluer tints do not survive, however mrsa did evolve, and bacteria are numbered in the millions that is their advantage
@MultiLolgasm You are wrong, botanists had been trying for decades to come up with a blue rose and they failed to do that because it is not possible because the genome does not have that possibility.
The only way to get blue roses, that are not even blue to begin with, is they genetically modified the rose themselves.
Mrsa cannot grow wings because it cannot be anything other than what it is.
@JungleJargon i am right , you just proved yourself wrong, a blue rose is not in the genome because all genes that could lead to blue roses have died out over millions of years,mrsa cannot grpw wings because it doesnt need to , no becateria have wings because they dont need to, however some have evolved a flagellum for propulsion , if bacteria had wings due to their low mass they would not be able to control themselves also they do not have muscles, but birds have wings and they came from raptor
@JungleJargon there is plenty of evidence to suport that birds have evolved from raptors ,and you say they coexisted which is true for some but there have been many types of raptors not just one , and i am not saying there were genes for blue roses, i am saying the roses which had a bluer tint in them (because not all roses are colour identicle) died off, it's survival of the fittest. it is not assumption it is research and evidence, i think assuming there is a giant maker in the sky is dumb
@MultiLolgasm There are limits to what a given genome can do, the possible variations are limited. You are assuming way too much. Evolution is a belief, it is not a known fact that anything evolved into anything else.
The genome offers all of the selections that are selected. The genome determines what the life form will be and nothing else is able to reorganize the genome.
The function of hydrogen working inside of you as directed proves you have a Maker. It's not assumption.
@JungleJargon no the whole theory of a maker is wild belief, the function of hydrogen simply shows how useful hydrogen is , just because it has one electron does not mean there is a god
@MultiLolgasm All of the most common elements are derived from hydrogen and they are all either essential, beneficial or non toxic to life forms.
17 elements are each one essential to life forms that we cannot live without and the rest of the common elements are beneficial to life forms.
It is impossible to have one single working part without having a maker and most of the most common elements are everything that we need to live and be happy.
@JungleJargon thats a load of crap sorry , i take chemistry, and elements rent derived from other elements. all alpha emission is thanks to helium nucleus' . just because elements exist does not mean there is a maker , its chemistry. but im guessing you were home schooled by another creationist and so will not know much about real science
@JungleJargon i'm schooled fine , and you know that wrong. only radioactive elements decay, and to the nearest stable form,, otherwise everything would be hydrogen, and also everything would be giving off such radiation we would be dead, explain to me how a noble gas would decay , its 100% stable
@JungleJargon the noble gasses are the most stable , hydrogen reacts quite violently with some things , it has one free space in its outer shell, if it was stable there wouldnt be many things containing it. noble gasses full outer shell and do not react
@JungleJargon seeing as you are so heavily into this please explain how from Kane and Able the rest of the worlds population came from two men , i don't believe they went to the nearest village to find wives
@JungleJargon ah but adam and eve were the only humans on earth , then kane and able , where did the wives come from , who were the parents of their wives ?
@Phoboskomboa Exactly. I was like, "Wait, monkeys were alive in the Triassic!?!?" Then I was like, "ah fuck, c'mon man, you didn't just skip over like 200-300 million years, did you?!?!" And, finally, I was like, "Oh fuck, you did."
We have been able to trace back our antecesors through many studies in many different Universities and institutions worldwide competing with each other and people still believe in the literal interpretation of the bible. I believe in god but the evolution is irrefutable. I think God's creation ocured before Big Bang, it is impossible to talk about this topic without crashing with other people's opinions, but at least that's what I think.
well there is alot of scientific criticism but thats alright cause u took artistic lisence. for someone who doesnt know much about evolution u did a fantastic job showing it. great vid man and btw how did u get those visuals?
What makes you think I dont know much about evolution? that one little sentence on faith? I think I have an above average understanding of it. anyways thx for comment, and I ripped it
@ipimees how am i reatarded? "imaginary friends??? and brainwashed? ha i bet you don't know anything about politics or history, your comments says a lot about you. don't even bother commenting back because i take it you are just part of the mass people who do NOT investigate for themselves.
Yes I know it's already been six months. But, why did JungleJargon said that "There is no evidence of any evolution.."
picatooakal 1 month ago
very cool, this remembers me of spore xD
BBClicke 1 month ago
wow cool! too bad this is all bullshit, and that evolution crap is all fitta... this would make a good story though
dolinovodno5000 4 months ago
can anyone tell me the name of that song?
TheBluebananaman 4 months ago
Fucking creationists, they are fucking mind closed, they think everything created by magic in 6 fucking days (because God rest in the 7th dat). Stop watching harry potter.
Viewty2012 5 months ago
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It has already been proven that mutations do not accumulate.
The genome is limited in the amount of variation that it has.
There is also not even enough actual verifiable history for it to happen.
Everything in the fossil record died in the flood 4400 years ago.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon I'd like to react to that;
'proven that mutations do not accumulate' what does that even mean? the genome can be seen as one big mutation-fest, so yeah it accumulate's. where is this so called proof?
'the genome...that it has' again what does that mean to you? single nucleotide mutations (SNP's) can have remarkable effects on phenotype. but besides that i dont really get your point, its limited in the amount of variation? so what? compared to apes?
tomsan84 7 months ago
@JungleJargon
'not enough actual verifiable history for it to happen' 3rd sentence in a row that doesnt make any sense. I seriously do not understand what you are saying here. do you mean there isnt enough proof? or do you actually mean to say that there is proof against it? i dunno I dont know what to say, there is so much proof.
last sentence; oke well not remotely enough room here to argue that, but lets agree to disagree.
tomsan84 7 months ago
@tomsan84 You seem to be at a loss of words when it comes to your "proof".
There is no evidence of any evolution because mutations do not accumulate. There is a limited amount of variation in each of the species. That is a proven fact.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon why do mutations not accumulate? what do think cancer is? A species is defined by its genome, so yeah there SHOULD be a limited amount of variation within a species, thats almost its definition. rephrasing your earlier points dont make them more valid.
Ill end this discussion right here, with a nice appeal to authority; I am a biomedical engineer, I have a lot of knowledge about- and experience with mutations. I have a strong feeling you have no clue what youre talking about.
tomsan84 7 months ago 4
@tomsan84 Cancer is not beneficial.
Why run when things are going so well?
In order to have authority, you have be able to back up what you are saying. If not, you have no authority.
I am glad you were able to conceed that the genome is limited. That is an important thing to establish.
I already know that the fossils are life forms that died in the flood because no one has been able to account for millions of cubic miles of sediments contained in the strata resulting from the flood.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@tomsan84 Cancer is not viable and it does not caus variations leading to evolution..
Sorry I did not see this comment sooner.
The genome is the only thing that is able to reorganize the genome. Nothing else can. Natural selection can only select what is reorganized by the genome. There is no direction in mutations so they never organize anything. So where is this evolution that you are talking about?
You need over 50,000 morphological changes for actual evolution to take place.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon The point is, if ONE average sized lake can produce Twenty Five million acre feet of sediment in 28 years (which geologically speaking, is nothing, it is a miniscule amount of time) then all the rivers. Lakes, Ponds, Oceans, streams etc etc on the planet, could easily produce even a billion cubic miles of sediments in even 1000 years. A geologically active planet can produce trillions of miles of sediments. This planet has been active for Billions of years. Do the math, tool.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger The math has been done and it shows that all of the sediments would be eroded into the oceans in 20,000,000 years.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon' Eroded into the ocean in 20 million years' lol... I can instantly picture the creationist website you got that bogus information from. Go ask a geologist you desperate muppet.
MegaLolburger 1 month ago
@MegaLolburger The over100 million cubic miles of conscutive layers of micro sediments deposited by the flood did not come from any website and you cannot explain that either. It amounts to over a mile of consecutive layers of micro sediments that were deposited in rapid succession.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon You have got to be a troll, and if you are bravo sir. Go ask a geologist, you know, somebody who has actually studied this. Read a geography text book, look on google (not on creationist websites) etc.
I think you dont want to because you are scared that you'll be wrong. Nah screw that, you are just plain stupid.
MegaLolburger 1 month ago
@MegaLolburger You are afraid to consider where the over 100 million cubic miles of consecutive layers of micro sediments came from or how they came to cover everything that was living on earth.
Go and ask your geologist about that.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon Could you please elaborate, All I keep seeing is this nonsense about micro sediments and 100 million cubic miles - and the only reference to anything I find on it is -suprise suprise - a creationist website. Do you mean how dirt dust etc keep gaining?
Tell any religious biologist, chemist, physicist, geologist etc any of the bogus crea- tard 'facts' you have been spurting on here and they will laugh in your face just as much as we Atheists have.
MegaLolburger 1 month ago
@JungleJargon Stop making the US look worse than it already does. And i know you are from the US without even having to ask. I live here too. And its humiliating enough how bad our educational system is. Then people like you come along and show the results of it. The world laughs their asses off at our childish immaturity and you are not helping. So get off your knees and stop trying to telepathically communicate with a invisible Jew in the sky. Its embarrassing.
JabberCT 7 months ago 5
@JabberCT It is to bad that you are unable to address any of the issues.
60 million cubic miles of sediments covering the fossils is proof there was a global flood and there is nothing you or anyone can do about it.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon Nonsense. If there was a global flood ALL fossils would be jammed into 1 thin layer of Earth, and they are not. Even a kindergarten science book can disprove something as silly as a worldwide flood. If the water covered everything, then where did it drain to? If it covered the highest mountains, then Earth would be a frozen ice world with air too thin to breathe. Your high school education does not come close to any scientists education. Stop fantasizing that you are smarter.
JabberCT 7 months ago
@JabberCT The mountains themselves consist of the sediment layers deposited by the flood. The mountains were pushed up after the flood when the water settled in the oceans and formed the ocean plates that press against the continents pushing up the mountains.
You did not say where 60 million cubic miles of sediments came from or how they got there.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon Im not sure where you get this 60 million cubic miles number from. Probably a apologetic website written by someone who knows nothing about the planet. But i would guess its a lot more than 60 million. Louisiana alone dumps 250,000 cubic miles of sediment into the ocean every year, which results in the loss of about 10 square miles of wetlands. Now consider all the coastal land on Earth over billions of years. Im sure that was left out of the equation on whatever site you read.
JabberCT 7 months ago
@JabberCT I know that it is more. I just don't know how much more because the land area of the continents themselves is only 57 million square miles. If there is an average of just over a mile deep of sediments that were deposited, that puts the number around 60 million square miles but I am sure it is much more.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon
how do you explain the non-uniform disposition of sediments?
forget it... you are JUST another retarded homeschooled creationist.
transtlantic 7 months ago
@transtlantic Unconformities are allowed in a global flood and many of them happened after the flood anyway.
It doesn't matter how the sediments were sequenced. What matters is that they were laid down and only a global flood could do it so there is nothing you can say.
The fossils are evidence there was a global flood and there is nothing you can do about it.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon there was no flood.
Dendrochronology is the science that proves you easily wrong.
ofc it does matter how sediments are sequenced. floods can't brake the laws of physics.
what matters is that heavier objects go faster down than lighter objects. try it on your bathtub. and we see heavier objects on top of lighter ones. so..
the fossils are evidence that there was no flood. 3 ton fossils on top of 3 gr fossils = no possibility for a flood.
transtlantic 7 months ago
@transtlantic Only a global flood is able to deposit 60 million cubic miles of sediments on top of all life forms that ever existed.
Tree ring "chronology" is absurd guessing.
The sea floors are always found on the bottom. You can count on it. Layers were being deposited on top of each other and burying whatever was mixed in and carried by those sediments.
The most well preserved dinosaur on display in Houston was proved to have drowned. Mammoths have also been proven to have drowned.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon there was no global flood. because more than 1 trillion cubic miles of sediments are moved around by a geological active planet. you are not covered with sediments, you dumbshit.
Dendrochronology is the science that proves you easily wrong. anyone can GOOGLE the term and see you wrong. your assumptions do not subtitute the scientific fact that you are wrong.
The sea floors can rise. as proven.
Most dinosaurs observed have been proven to have died from natural death. you fail.
transtlantic 7 months ago
@transtlantic Geologic activity does not deposit 60 million cubic miles of sediments on all life forms on earth. Only a global flood is able to do that. They layers of sediments did not fall from the sky.
Tree ring "chronology" is guessing. It is not a fact that dates can be matched up because all of the trees were buried at the same time by the same 60 million cubic miles of sediments.
Sea floors are pushed up and they will still be on the bottom.
All fossils died catastrophic deaths.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon Of course it does, this planet is a few billion years old. I get the feeling that you think this planet has remained the same for the last 4 billion years. In actual fact this planet has undergone drastic changes; and it still is. It's why we find -for example- ancient whale skeletons in the middle of deserts in Nothern Africa. There was no great flood because if there had been every fossil would be found on the same layer. You are so ignorant to reality that it is embarrassing.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@JungleJargon Also Dendrochronology is NOT guessing. It is one of the most absoloute dating methods.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger No, those tree rings were all buried at the same time under the same 60 million cubic miles of sediments that buried all life forms on earth.
FYI, tree rings rot under normal circumstances and it still does not buy enough time for evolution to happen anyway. Actual tree rings date back to the time of the flood.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon No they weren't you utter fool. This supposed flood happened 4000 years ago, yet there is no historical record of it happening by civilizations that were around at the time, There is no geological evidence for it happening and the only reference to it is in a 2000 year old book written by desert nomads.
If you can do basic math you can disprove it. It shouldn't even be a topic of discussion, its ridiculous.
FYI, WPN-114 that was felled in 1964 was 5000 years old.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger There are more than 20 accounts of such a flood. Over 60 million cubic miles of sediments can only be deposited by a global flood.
5000 tree rings do not mean 5000 years. The flood was 4400 years ago. There are always more rings than years.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon All from the same book. That same book also says over 5 billion species fit on a single boat with dimensions that would render that impossible. Is it really worth explaining? It CANT happen, there is NO evidence outside of the Bible that it happened. If you want to use a book as evidence there is more evidence that Unicorns exist than any global flood. One growth ring represents a year. It's accepted fact for God's sake. How can you be so ignorant of reality?
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@JungleJargon Again you are blissfully ignorant of facts... have you not heard of plate tectonics? Bloody hell mate this is a pathetic attempt to hold onto your faith.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger The land areas consist of layers of sediments deposited by the floods. Plate tectonics cannot deposit layers of sediments like that, it can only push them up into moutain chains after the layers of sediments have been deposited.
You need to know what the issues are.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon This wasn't about the layers you said there is no other way of depositing 60 million cubic miles of sediments.
If you want to talk about layers your whole bullshit argument can be put to rest immediately; if there was a global flood that ended most life ALL fossils would be found on the SAME LAYER.
Other evidence for the lack of flood include no mention of it by civilizations at the time, and the fact there hasnt been a global extinction even for 65 million years. Argument, over.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger All fossils were not in the same place so they would not be buried together with life forms that were in different places.
The global flood was 4400 years ago that buried all life on earth. There are over 200 accounts of the same flood with the same details as one family, a large boat, animals and birds released to see if it was safe outside.
Only a global flood is able to deposit arond 100 million cubic miles of sediments that make up all of the continents and mountain chains.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon
dendrochronology is a science that allows by DIRECT observation to prove that the earth is older than 11,000 years.
there are no accounts of biblical floods. none. zero.
Heavy objects go down quicker than lighter objects in water. we see heavy fossils on top of smaller fossils. ergo it's a physical impossibility a global flood.
transtlantic 7 months ago
@transtlantic Tree ring chronology is a fabrication of evidence that does not exist because all of the trees were buried by the same global flood.
There are over 200 separate accounts of the same flood.
The sea floor will always be on the bottom regardless.
Sediments always pile on top of other sediments.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon
dendrochronology is a science that allows by DIRECT observation to prove that the earth is older than 11,000 years. your accusation of fabrication is without support. your straw man moves nothing.
there are no accounts of biblical floods. none. zero.
Heavy objects go down quicker than lighter objects in water. we see heavy fossils on top of smaller fossils. ergo it's a physical impossibility a global flood.
the sea floor made Hawai
transtlantic 7 months ago
@JungleJargon No according to you all fossil bearing strata were deposited by the Flood then all the animals which became fossils were alive then. Therefore all extinct land animals had representatives aboard the ark So any and all 'fossils' would be found on the same LAYER not place
No. The only references to it are in the Bible. If you claim otherwise provide EVIDENCE
100 mil? You said 60 mil before this. Your argument is fundamentally flawed, inconsistent and you fail to grasp basic geology.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger You fail to grasp the volume of the sediments deposited on top of all life forms on earth which also make up the material that all the continents and mountain chains consist of.
There was a lot going on at the time with sediments coming up for all over with the water that was coming up from underground and there is no need for things to be in the same layers even though they are found in the same layers.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon I understand the numbers -which you are evidently making up, no one can know how many sediments are deposited on all the current fossils- what you don't understand is that geological activity alone can do that. That's not even taking into account other factors. Yes there is, look up stratiagraphy.
Carbonate hardgrounds disprove the global flood along with an abundance of other evidence including basic math & no mention of it by humans alive at the time. How can you disprove that?
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger Only a global flood is able to deposit sediments in layers stacked like pancakes extending at times from continent to continent. There is nothing you can say.
There are over 200 separate acounts of the same flood with the same details. We have accounts, records and geneologies of people living before the flood. We have descriptions of how different the world was before it was destroyed by the flood.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon No As I said before a global flood would deposit the fossils on the same layer. As for the layering of sediments that is a terrible argument. Look up Diagenesis. So yes, there is something I can say. We have a very full scientific understanding of why there are layers. Is this your question all along? Why there are layers? I could have solved this much earlier
All of that was within the same book.Care to explain how civilizations at the time were blissfully unaware of this flood?
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger What law is there that would restrict all dead things to one layer?
There are many layers because of the many sediments that came up out of the ground at the time of the flood.
Everything on earth died in the flood that swept over all land areas and deposited sediments that now make up all of the continents and mountain chains there are in the world.
The only survivors were our anscestors in the Ark and the animals they took with them. Everything else was drowned and buried.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon A sedimentary layer from the Mesozoic Era for example, would contain fossils of dinosaurs. It's simple.
No there are many layers because of Diagenesis. When sedimentation continues, an older rock layer becomes buried deeper as a result. The lithostatic pressure in the rock increases due to the weight of the overlying sediment. This causes compaction. This is BASIC stuff you poor blinded fool. This is FACT. REALITY. Wake up.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@JungleJargon 8 people our ancestors?
Cheetahs nearly went extinct around 10,000 years ago. As a result, they have little to no genetic diversity. You can perform tissue transplants from any cheetah to any other with little concern for tissue rejection.
If the same occurred to EVERY species 5000 years ago, we would see the same results.
There was no flood.
The evidence is piling against you. This shouldn't be a topic of discussion. Only morons can object reality in the face of evidence.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger Yes, there is always a limit to what the genome can do.
There certainly is 100 million cubic miles of sediments dumped on top of all life forms on earth. How is it you say there was no flood?
You proved nothing. Objects still do not do anything without being ordered and they never will.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon Exactly, so most of the races would not exist and we would have little to no genetic diversity.
You are not covered in sediments dipshit. Between 1935 and 1963, about 91,000 acre-feet of sediment was deposited in Lake Mead each year. And that is just one lake. Do the math buddy. Only a moron can still reject reality in the face of evidence. How can you be so thick? Utter garbage, if you ever read a science book you would know that.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger There were eight people on the Ark. That is plenty of diversity.
I am a descendant of the survivors that were on the Ark. That is the only reason I am alive today.
The sediments in Lake Mead are like nothing compared to the more than 100 million cubic miles of sediments deposited by the flood.
(If the earth was millions of years old, Lake Mead would be filled up already)
JungleJargon 7 months ago
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MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@JungleJargon 8 people is plenty of diversity? Are you serious? There were more cheetahs than that at the time of them going nearly going extinct, and they hardly have any diversity.
No, you are a moron who has been permitted to live by society. How your brain dosen't implode from your stupidity is mind blowing.
Like I said, ONE average sized lake produced twenty-five million two hundred thousand acre feet of sediment in 28 years. ONE lake.
LMAO!! Could you please repeat that last part?
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger Cheetahs lost their diversity because they specialized too much.
All races of humans can have viable offspring with each other. That shows how much our genome is the same. All races can have similar facial features and phenotypes. Just the color is different.
Do you even know what millions of years is?
Niagra Falls would be eroded back to Lake Erie by now.
That sediment is nothing compared to more than 100 million cubic miles of sediments that make up all of the continents.
JungleJargon 7 months ago
@JungleJargon Because they 'specialized too much'? You are fucking ridiculous.
And just as I look down I see something even more retarded. Do I really need to explain this? It's because we are the same species you dumb fuck.
Yes I do. Do you understand the process of sedimentation? Evidently not.
The Niagra falls are 12000 years old and they have eroded 7 miles since then. When did erosion come into this?
You still dont get the point dont you? Continued....
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@JungleJargon geologic activity moves the entire planet. way over 60 million cubic miles of sediments. there was no flood. no evidence for one.
lot's of sediments fall from the sky. after a vulcano explosion for example.
Tree ring chronology is DIRECT counting of tree rings. how is that guessing? all people have to do is google: Dendrochronology is the science that proves you easily wrong. anyone can GOOGLE it.
Sea floors can also be pushed down.
most fossils died from natural death.
transtlantic 7 months ago
@transtlantic He takes stupidity and ignorance to a whole new level.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
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MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@MegaLolburger Did you respond to the wrong person? lol. I know the planet is billions of years old and agree with everything you said. Im not religious. :)
JabberCT 7 months ago
@JabberCT Oops yeah haha, sorry bud. I actually feel like punching myself talking to this guy. I have no idea how someone can be so god damn stupid.
MegaLolburger 7 months ago
@JungleJargon the last mass extinction was a bit more than 4400 years ago , also a mass flood is illogical you do realise , there is is certain amount of water on the planet , where did this magical water come from , space rain ?
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm There is a lot more water below sea level than there is land above sea level. The ocean is as deep as commercial aircraft fly high.
The only mass extinction was 4400 years ago. All of the life forms are there in the sediments deposited by the flood.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon so how did the water get to earth , did the water defy physics and expand onto land ?
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm Water came from above and from below. The water from above came in the form of rain and water from below came up from the ground and by some accounts, was pushed up into the air.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon do you know how rain is made ?
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm Do you know what powers trillions of electric motors inside of us?
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon so please tell me what all of these are ? Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event, Triassic–Jurassic extinction event , Permian–Triassic extinction event , Late Devonian extinction and Ordovician–Silurian extinction event. all proven evidence of evolution science , and completely defies god ,
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm All of those layers are consecutive successive layers deposited by the flood.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon and what are the layers in between ?
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm What happened to the "missing layers"?
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon you are the one that says all the layers were fromed by a flood , this would leave one layer , i am saying that there is evidence of mass extinction spanning hundreds of milliions of years , it in the grand canyon. you have no knowledge of sedimentary rock or evolution or anything about this kinda thing
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm There would be as many layers as there would be time and material.
Of course there was a mass extinction, it was caused by the flood that buried everything living on earth in over 100 million cubic miles of consecutive layers of micro sediments
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon there were 5 mass extinctions , i dont know all the names but ordocial and devonian were some of them, and the layers have been dated back before 4000 yeaars ago , and also the flood did not kill everything on earth or we would all be micro orgasms again , and floods dont kill fish , your science and logic is flawed by real science and evidence, and it is impossible for the whole world to be submerged in water seeing as there is a set amount of water on the planet
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm In order for the layers of sediments to be consecutive layers of micro sediments, the have to have been deposited in rapid succession.
Global floods do kill and bury fish.
If there was no global flood, all of the sediments would be in the oceans instead of being on land where they are found.
The mountains are much higher today than what they were before the flood. The land areas now consist of sediments deposited by the flood and what was pushed up after the flood.
JungleJargon 4 weeks ago
@JungleJargon global flood is impossible there is not enough water in the earth to flood it unless the earths surface was pretty much completely flattened and smooth. but your sediment theory is wrong and you know it , the fossils have been dated to millions of years ago , im guessing you have had all your education from christians, please if you do not want to accept science as life go and live in a cave, you are making humanity look bad
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm The ocean is deeper than commercial aircraft fly high. We can measure the mountains being pushed up. The obviously went up faster in the past and still have not reached as high as they are going to become. It is the pressure of the oceans that is causing the ocean plates to push up the mountains.
Christians care more about the truth than any secular teachers.
The sediments are on land and the only way for them to get there is with a global flood and oceans sinking.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon no not global flooding global shifting, you do not understand that water cannot appear out of no where or simply leave the planet, global flooding is impossible , and please stop repeating yourself, it only proves that you are brainwashed
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm The oceans sank. That is the reason they are not covered with the sediments that are on land.
You failed to account for the over 100 million cubic miles of consecutive layers of sediments that make up every continent including Antarctica and cover everything that was living on earth.
Address the issues and stop using slander and ad hominem attacks, they only show you have nothing valid to say.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon i have used facts and evidence deal with it. and i have accounted for all sediment, dating back millions of years , please tell me if you were a scientist should you be open to other ideas as all scientist are, the greatest scientists that ever lived wre those who were determined to go deeper into unknown areas and have mad theories, and please do not think you are being righteous christianity is the most violent of all religions
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm You don't even know what 100 million cubic miles of sediments are let alone telling me how they all came to cover everything living on earth.
Stop slandering Christianity, there is no violence in Christian teaching.
I will stick with the observable evidence that hydrogen working inside of us, when ordered, proves we have a Maker.
You failed to explain why the oceans do not have the same sediments that are on land. Billions of years would erode them into the oceans.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon i know what sediment is and how it works, i know how fossilization occurs and i know that your theory is impossible and that there are fossils of dinosaurs in the sedimentary rock that are from before 10,000 years, so if yo would kindly PM me on how amazing hydrogen is inside our body i will happily educate you on such matters. you see the use oh hydrogen and its polarity with water are all scientific , now please stop repeating the same facts which i have already proven wrong
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm You will not prove me wrong until you are able show me a directed function that does not have a maker.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon this is impossible because the theory of a maker is infinite, but it is just an excuse forr those who are afraid of searching for the real origins of the universe, evolution is 100 proven though i don't see how you can go against it
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm There is less evidence of evolution than there is of Santa.
The evidence of us having a Maker is observable, it is a fact. It is not a belief without a basis like evolution is.
The working mechanisms inside of you prove you have a Maker.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon MRSA
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm Bacteria remain bacteria throught bottlenecks just like humans remain humans through bottlenecks.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon but how does it overcome antibiotics with out evolving and changing its dna, its been proven that that's what it does. it has developed resistance to forms of penecillin which it previously wasnt, i think you need to explain how it evolved without evolution
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm The very possibility is made possible by the preexisting genome. The possibilities are not endless. Nothing would be happening without already having the genome. It did nothing to change the bacteria into something else.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon no that is why mrsa is so dangerous it evolved to be more resistant before it almost everything was susceptible to a form of penicillin, mrsa evolved in hospitals to have an imunity to it , it was not already in the genome
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm I did not say it was in the genome, I said the possibility was there in the genome. If mrsa could evolve, it would have sprouted wings. The possibilites are not endless. There's a limit to what a genome is able to do. That is the reason there are no natural blue roses. The genome is able to work around obstacles although it cannnot do anything. It is the genome offering the selection. Mutations have little or nothing ot do with it. Evolution needs millions of changes.
JungleJargon 3 weeks ago
@JungleJargon mrsa could not spout wings straight away as it has no need to and has no muscles to use them, and there are no blue roses because red roses were much more succesful , the roses with a bluer tints do not survive, however mrsa did evolve, and bacteria are numbered in the millions that is their advantage
MultiLolgasm 3 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm You are wrong, botanists had been trying for decades to come up with a blue rose and they failed to do that because it is not possible because the genome does not have that possibility.
The only way to get blue roses, that are not even blue to begin with, is they genetically modified the rose themselves.
Mrsa cannot grow wings because it cannot be anything other than what it is.
JungleJargon 2 weeks ago
@JungleJargon i am right , you just proved yourself wrong, a blue rose is not in the genome because all genes that could lead to blue roses have died out over millions of years,mrsa cannot grpw wings because it doesnt need to , no becateria have wings because they dont need to, however some have evolved a flagellum for propulsion , if bacteria had wings due to their low mass they would not be able to control themselves also they do not have muscles, but birds have wings and they came from raptor
MultiLolgasm 2 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm What makes you think that there ever were genes for a blue rose?
That is your assumption for which you have no evidence.
It is also your assumption that birds came from raptors because they existed at the same time there were raptors.
Everything you believe is all assumptions. You have no proof of anything you believe because objects did not make or refine what you are.
All functions, working parts and mechanisms are made by a maker. Random chance is not enough.
JungleJargon 2 weeks ago
@JungleJargon there is plenty of evidence to suport that birds have evolved from raptors ,and you say they coexisted which is true for some but there have been many types of raptors not just one , and i am not saying there were genes for blue roses, i am saying the roses which had a bluer tint in them (because not all roses are colour identicle) died off, it's survival of the fittest. it is not assumption it is research and evidence, i think assuming there is a giant maker in the sky is dumb
MultiLolgasm 2 weeks ago
@MultiLolgasm There are limits to what a given genome can do, the possible variations are limited. You are assuming way too much. Evolution is a belief, it is not a known fact that anything evolved into anything else.
The genome offers all of the selections that are selected. The genome determines what the life form will be and nothing else is able to reorganize the genome.
The function of hydrogen working inside of you as directed proves you have a Maker. It's not assumption.
JungleJargon 2 weeks ago
@JungleJargon no the whole theory of a maker is wild belief, the function of hydrogen simply shows how useful hydrogen is , just because it has one electron does not mean there is a god
MultiLolgasm 1 week ago
@MultiLolgasm All of the most common elements are derived from hydrogen and they are all either essential, beneficial or non toxic to life forms.
17 elements are each one essential to life forms that we cannot live without and the rest of the common elements are beneficial to life forms.
It is impossible to have one single working part without having a maker and most of the most common elements are everything that we need to live and be happy.
JungleJargon 1 week ago
@JungleJargon thats a load of crap sorry , i take chemistry, and elements rent derived from other elements. all alpha emission is thanks to helium nucleus' . just because elements exist does not mean there is a maker , its chemistry. but im guessing you were home schooled by another creationist and so will not know much about real science
MultiLolgasm 1 week ago
@MultiLolgasm All elements are derived from and decay back to hydrogen.
You are the one that was not schooled properly.
JungleJargon 6 days ago
@JungleJargon i'm schooled fine , and you know that wrong. only radioactive elements decay, and to the nearest stable form,, otherwise everything would be hydrogen, and also everything would be giving off such radiation we would be dead, explain to me how a noble gas would decay , its 100% stable
MultiLolgasm 5 days ago
@MultiLolgasm Hydrogen is the most stable element and it is the only element that does not decay into anything else.
JungleJargon 17 hours ago
@JungleJargon the noble gasses are the most stable , hydrogen reacts quite violently with some things , it has one free space in its outer shell, if it was stable there wouldnt be many things containing it. noble gasses full outer shell and do not react
MultiLolgasm 11 hours ago
@JungleJargon seeing as you are so heavily into this please explain how from Kane and Able the rest of the worlds population came from two men , i don't believe they went to the nearest village to find wives
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm Able was killed. Cain and Seth each has a wife of their own.
The Bible does not mention the women that were born at that time.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon and where did the women come from ? space ?
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm Women came from the same place men came from.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
@JungleJargon ah but adam and eve were the only humans on earth , then kane and able , where did the wives come from , who were the parents of their wives ?
MultiLolgasm 1 month ago
@MultiLolgasm Adam and Eve were the only humans made so it stands to reason, that is where the women came from.
JungleJargon 1 month ago
You jumped from Dinosaurs era to Apes ?? there is a lot missing in between you know ?
EuropeanGuy87 9 months ago
I am showing it to my intro bio class. Its not 100% accurate but exciting and I appreciate you making it.
acromwell 1 year ago
That was cool !
JabberCT 1 year ago
Song name please?
Narsuaq 1 year ago
Excellent Work! Keep it up
Empirical1980 1 year ago
whats the name of the documentary??
shebyXxX 1 year ago
@shebyXxX It's called, "Walking with Monsters" from BBC (same producers as Walking with Dinosaurs). It's a fantastic documentary.
Masiakasaurus 1 year ago
Way to be misleading with the sudden jump from the Triasic to the Austrolopithicines.
Good video though.
Phoboskomboa 2 years ago 7
@Phoboskomboa Exactly. I was like, "Wait, monkeys were alive in the Triassic!?!?" Then I was like, "ah fuck, c'mon man, you didn't just skip over like 200-300 million years, did you?!?!" And, finally, I was like, "Oh fuck, you did."
FutureSuperman 11 months ago
By the way loved the NIN track on this video, it suits it. although Tool would be nice for this video too :)
eldruidacosmico 2 years ago
We have been able to trace back our antecesors through many studies in many different Universities and institutions worldwide competing with each other and people still believe in the literal interpretation of the bible. I believe in god but the evolution is irrefutable. I think God's creation ocured before Big Bang, it is impossible to talk about this topic without crashing with other people's opinions, but at least that's what I think.
eldruidacosmico 2 years ago
well there is alot of scientific criticism but thats alright cause u took artistic lisence. for someone who doesnt know much about evolution u did a fantastic job showing it. great vid man and btw how did u get those visuals?
intrepidrock123 2 years ago
What makes you think I dont know much about evolution? that one little sentence on faith? I think I have an above average understanding of it. anyways thx for comment, and I ripped it
tomsan84 2 years ago
@tomsan84 whats the name of this documentary? i saw it once a while ago, and i cant remember, and been searching for a while now...
shebyXxX 1 year ago
@intrepidrock123 This program was on the Discovery channel.
Ferrari4987 1 year ago
You don't know anything boy. i can tell.
Patriot4300212016 2 years ago
this is something to laugh at. more like a Children's story.
Patriot4300212016 2 years ago
youre retarded,i guess youre a jesus freak then,imaginary friends for the win eh,brainwashed asshole
ipimees 2 years ago
@ipimees yeah evolution for the win. watch my vid for proof.
s0merand0midi0t 2 years ago
@ipimees how am i reatarded? "imaginary friends??? and brainwashed? ha i bet you don't know anything about politics or history, your comments says a lot about you. don't even bother commenting back because i take it you are just part of the mass people who do NOT investigate for themselves.
Patriot4300212016 2 years ago
actually i study history as a hobby and do know something about politics n stuff.Stop trying to profile me trough the internet,asshole.
ipimees 2 years ago 2
you sound like a douchebag so fuck you
Patriot4300212016 2 years ago
haha whatever bro,go burn some books n shit.
Even your name shows what a blind redneck retard you are,so go fuck your family n shit,its what people like you are good at.
:)
ipimees 2 years ago
yea arguing on the internet, i am not even a redneck, i only feel attracted to fucking your sister ;)
Patriot4300212016 2 years ago
LOL
inthedepths714 2 years ago 2
@Patriot4300212016 yeah the only evidence for evolution is in my vid lol check it out
s0merand0midi0t 2 years ago
@s0merand0midi0t you are a sad clown dude seriously get a girlfriend or something.
Patriot4300212016 2 years ago
Patriot4300212016 probably thinks the flintstones is a fucking documentry
hoboguru 2 years ago
it is a good video
spstar1 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
It takes more faith to believe this than it does to believe God exists.
drskaff 2 years ago
it would.. if there wasnt so much proof!
tomsan84 2 years ago 4
huh
stonepete9 2 years ago
@drskaff indeed. watch my vid for evidence for evolution
s0merand0midi0t 2 years ago