@dirtychris732 Some changes were made to later versions of Ocarina of Time, such as the Fire Temple music, and the Gerudo symbol. I guess Nintendo thought it was offensive to Muslims even though I read that there never was any public outcry from them.
I wonder if the boss or dungeon itself has religious meaning to it. This seems a bit too deep to come from nowhere. The chants itself overwhelm my ears.
It never actually offended anybody, no Muslim groups ever complained about the song. Nintendo only removed it because they feared it MAY cause controversy. Thus both editions are still available...
This song.. being a Muslim myself, I can sit in a room with this song on infinite loop and be the happiest man on the world. It gives me Iman for some reason.
It's sad that a singular group of people have the ability to get absolutely anything they want changed. If a group of Buddhists, or Christians, or even Wiccans were offended, they would be told to take a hike, and grow a pair.
But when MUSLIMS complain. Oh no. Fear of terrorism. We better do exactly what they say, without complaint.
I'm sure even non-violent(normal) Muslims are offended at the implications of this. They've become completely immune to criticism or satire, through violence.
I let my little Friend Ethyn listen to this song and he was like, it sounds funny. I was like, Ethyn doesn't it sound a bit scary to you, and he's like, no, and he's only five years old. The chanting scared the shit out of me when I was little and it still does a tiny bit, probably because the chanting was used in a scary instrumental in hell based Temple of Flames. Now that I know that the chanting is just a prayer to a God named Allah, it doesn't seem so scary anymore.
I wish they would have kept this in the game. It sounds so much better. I like creepy music, and creepiness kinda fits the temple. For some reason the idea of Ganon feeding Gorons to a dragon disturbed me deeply and I felt like I actually wanted to save them. The chants would have added to the experience. Dumb censorship. Also, I hope everyone enjoyed this comment because YOUTUBE KEEPS GIVING ME AN ERROR MESSAGE SO I HAVE TO KEEP TRYING >:l
I wish they would have kept this in the game. It sounds so much better. I like creepy music, and creepiness kinda fits the temple. For some reason the idea of Ganon feeding Gorons to a dragon disturbed me deeply and I felt like I actually wanted to save them. The chants would have added to the experience. Dumb censorship.
I wish they would have kept this in the game. It sounds so much better. I like creepy music, and creepiness kinda fits the temple. For some reason the idea of Ganon feeding Gorons to a dragon disturbed me deeply and I felt like I actually wanted to save them. The chants would have added to the experience. Dumb censorship.
It seems like this temple mocks you... the big key is through a door right in front of you and in a goron's cage, and the boss is just to the left. Yet you have to climb all the way to the 5th floor for the hammer so you can actually free the goron and get the key. Well plaid, Fire Temple...
Wow, this version is bad-ass. I thought the version with the throat-singing and what I now realise must just be a keyboard choir WAS the version that was considered too controversial but there ya go :P
If this place was a prison, this must have been a LOT better than alcatraz (by the way when you hear the men singing, that might be the voice of the prisoners lost souls, forbidden to leave for eternity).
I also miss the chanting version. As a kid the Shadow Temple didn't creep me out very much. Because of this music and all the scared Gorons who were going to be fed to Volvagia I always found the Fire Temple to be creepier. Shadows don't scare me... but the consuming power of fire did.
I have the N64 version with the chant. The song has always creeped me out in some way. As a kid, I was stuck on this dungeon for a long time, so eventually I started imagining the chant saying "Head's up marines, head's up marines, head's up marines *dramatic death scream*"
I am one of the lucky people that still has the chant in the background, and I always thought it was like that. I only recently (a year or two) learned that there was this version...
I wonder who provided the voices in this song. Everytime I hear it, I think of guys in white robes chanting around a fire, and the leader is reading from a prayer book.
I think it has nothing to do with censorship and more to do with not owning the right to the sound clip. It wouldn't be below someone like a WMG executive to blame Muslims.
in parts of the chant the person is saying allah and allahu Akbar which means God and God is the greatest... the rest of it is hard to make out, but definitely has Islamic influence. Imo it doesn't give it a creepy feeling at all infact it's almost serene and comforting, a complete contrast to the look and feel of the actual dungeon
@FrogJam95128 I was hoping they'd add the extra temples and other scrapped material in the remake, even if it didn't change the story at all (like if it was just an optional thing on the menu to be played separate from the game), but they didn't... I would have liked to see Fado with her disgustingly adorable updated model get the attention she was originally entitled to.
@SirFair1 Interesting. Just to let you know, I live in a tropical island known as Puerto Rico, so that means its kinda summer for us the whole year, 24 hours of day, seven days a week. :P
Though I personally wish to live in a huge temperate country, instead of a tiny tropical island :(
I think the erie chanting makes the fire temple seem scary and it needs it because you'd remeber it more like the water temple, everyone remebers that because it was a bitch of a puzzle :S
You know, maybe they took the chanting out because it didn't fit the Zelda Universe? Why would there be monks praying about Allah in a fire temple? More specifically, in a land where Muslims don't exist. To me it seems like Nintendo just wanted the world to be more convincing, and the chanting kinda takes away from that.
@lolligeir well yes for the muslims but no for other religions because when the OoT came many people complained about this song in various countries (U.S.A and europe)
@lolligeir@Megabrain3000 : in Islam music is prohibited (of course it doesn't mean they don't sing). But singing verses from the coran is completely forbidden. So it's obvious why they removed it. And I'm happy with it cause the other one's better in my opinion
@InfinityDz@lolligeir@Megabrain3000 Not exactly. The majority of Muslims today are totally fine with music and having verses spoken or sung in non-offensive ways. But, like every faith/community/discipline/sect/club/organization or whatever, you have the right-wingers who can get offended pretty easily, and because they are so loud they are always heard first... My friends are Muslim and they love this song.
@lolligeir that's not the issue though. the problem is that it's the "fire" temple, and you can't deny that this place somewhat represents hell. I'm Muslim, and I'm not offended by this, it's just that the chanting/prayers are being tied to hell.
@lolligeir I would have to agree and I believe the game was made in japan and I believe they had good intentions and were not trying to offend anyone. Also japan is a homogenous country.
@lolligeir Having Islamic chants in a temple that sort of resembles hell? Don't think so. It wasn't changed because Muslims were offended, it was changed because Nintendo thought they would.
@eoPism it accually was changed becvouse of muslims tey complained about it sopnintendo had to take itaway same with the muslimseal on the blocks and mirror shield they where canged from a cresent moon and star toa gerudo symbol
@heroofmask I doubt it, since they changed it very quick. Finding a 1.0 and 1.1 version of Ocarina of Time is uncommon. But please, show me source if you have.
There was never a muslim outcry about the fire temple, or the gerudo symbol. It's a myth. Nintendo proactively changed it in later versions so as to erase the possibility of offending anyone.
It doesn't bother me much, though the original Gerudo symbol is far cooler.
I always thought that the fire temples theme did'n fit the game. Compared to the rest it was a little bit to minimalistic, well now I know why. Although I'am a muslim I would have been proud about hearing our religious chants in the game.
@ORCLOVE My parents never bought me the gold cartridge and I liked it. I kinda almost feel like I missed out, this version has a certain creepiness to it, and it's pretty awesome.
Hi, my name's RoboRandy1 and I really don't have anything better to do in my time rather than start arguments on videos with music in them from a game that was made over 10 years ago.
@RoboRandy1 I don't want to get involved in your debate, but, tell me: why do this? You knew what kind of stance the majority of people who frequent this page hold. You drop a bomb like, "what were the game makers thinking?" and then act surprised when hoards of Zelda fans disagree. Were you planning on changing someone's mind? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but I should let you know that petty insults like "12 year old troll" kind of comes off as (don't take it the wrong way) desparate.
@RoboRandy1 People, maybe we shouldn't be talking to this guy. If he wants to think he's got everything figured out and that he represents the pinnacle of sound logic then why not let him? He'll think he's won and feel good about himself and we can enjoy the comments section once he's gone.
Don't think you've got everybody on your side because you've been clearly disproven. If you acknowledge that you've been shut down, go without posting anything.
Maybe it's Gorons who are chanting. I mean, Volvagia was freed before Link went into the fire temple, so maybe the chanting are Goron souls who were killed by Volvagia. Just some thoughts.
If I'd have heard THIS when I first played this game as a kid, I probably would have had to put the controller down and have someone else beat it for me!! x_x
@GibbsGibberstein in some parts you can hear a chant of a muslim and it says something like: In The Name of Allah the most merciful and beneficent. so they removed it to prevent controversy
@GibbsGibberstein your welcome, well in some roms and N64 cartidges (the very first that came out) you can hear this and find the original mirror shield.
I love the pissing-off-Muslims version better than all the later ones. Nintendo also removed the crescent moon from the Mirror Shield and the blue blocks in the Water Temple because of complaints from the Muslim community.
What does Fictional, Gerudo symbols have to do with muslims? And why would they include this in a kids game? Although when I played I never thought of MUSLIMS shouting, I just thought of it as tortured ghosts or something. CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY PROVES THE VOICES ARE SPEAKING MUSLIM???
@RoboRandy1 *sigh* Exactly...the Muslims SHOULDN'T have gotten outraged, but they found a way to get offended over the Middle Eastern imagery used in the game. I don't know whose voices were recorded for this song, but it IS a Muslim prayer; the kind played from minarets that informs followers that it is time to pray toward Mecca. You can even look up the translation online. Koji Kondo thought it would provide the perfect atmosphere, and it did...until some Muslims complained.
If that's an official statement than that would explain alot. But according to pop fiction, they refuse to commment. AND they proved that Muslim community outcries WERE NOT THE CAUSE. Version 1.2 was already made, (The version with the chants removed), on October 25th, ALMOST a month before even version 1.0 was made. So the Muslims COULDN'T have complained about because the game hadn't been released ANYWHERE in the world. So there are very few possibilites why this is.
@RoboRandy1 What motive!? To make the game awesome!? If you're going to get all conspiracy theorist over Ocarina of Time then this conversation is over.
@RunoGruno THERE WAS NO FUCKING REASON TO INCLUDE RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS AND IDEOLOGY. Let alone , MUSLIM RELIGION. NINTENDO IS A DAMN CHILDRENS VIDEO GAME COMPANY. MUSLIM SYMBOLS AND PRAYERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN A HARMLESS, E RATED, KIDS GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE REGARDLESS OF ANY "AMBIENCE". WTF WERE THEY THINKING???
@RoboRandy1 Those symbols existed long before the Muslims. It's a MOON! And about your religion comments; how many video games and movies have epic choruses of Latin ballads in the background in a style that mirrors those large Catholic hymns? A lot! Did the Christians get angry? No!
Because It means a lot more in a post 9-11 world. Arabics and Muslims are now viewed as terrorists even though that wasn't the case 13 years ago. And there is no denying the fact that those aren't random symbols. IT'S THE MUSLIM Flag. So that's another controversy in itself. They obviously put muslim symbols and music into the game. There are so many questions regarding that fact. And I'm very curious to get to the bottom of it. As I said in my previous comments.
@RoboRandy1 The game came out in 1998 and was changed as a result of complaints BEFORE 2001 and there is not such thing as a Muslim flag. The flag design DOES exists in two Muslim countries, but it's not the "Muslim flag".
@RoboRandy1 It blows your argument that the gamemakers should've been sensitive in a post-9/11 world COMPLETELY to hell since it was BEFORE the events.
@RoboRandy1 What are you afraid of children being exposed to? Are you afraid that they'll fall to their knees and convert to Islam or are you afraid that Muslims will retaliate? The first one is unrealistic and the second one is incredibly offensive to the general Muslim population as well as advocating for some sort of appeasement towards extremism. It's a form of melody, THAT'S IT as far as the gamer is concerned.
Ambience isn't an excuse for semi-hidden symbolism in a late 90's game for children. I'm not afraid of anything. I don't know why Nintendo went to the trouble of putting those things in the game when a Fantasy Land has nothing to do with the current world. I don't have any answers just common sense. Whatever, Trolls Gonna Troll.
@RoboRandy1 You've only said it's wrong and haven't given a good explanation WHY it's wrong. You might as well say Link shouldn't be using a sword because "having swords in video games is wrong".
Okay, I'll spell it out. Obviously this didn't mean jack 13 years ago. Not to the world, ME. Now it does. And a whole lot of questions have been raised by Pop Fiction that still lye uncovered. And yes it is disturbing to me to hear Muslim Prayers in an innocent game. It just didn't belong.
@RoboRandy1 ...Sooooo why are you still faulting the game makers for not predicting the future? You just said it didn't matter at the time of the game's creation.
@RoboRandy1 Why are being so foul to 10INTM? He was never even arguing with you. Heck, we don't even know where he stands on the issue. This whole debate is so stupid because it is nothing but a challenge of opinions. It's just "I think it's not appropriate and here's my opinion why" verses "I think it's appropriate and here's my opinion why". There's no facts on either side that PROVE it is or isn't appropriate.
Stop pulling my words out of context when you obviously don't know what your own mean. I said it didn't matter BACK THEN but NOW IT DOES. Dumb bitches are making me hungry.
@RoboRandy1 wtf where they thinking? I think they were thinking about developing a great and epic game with an incredible story. Just because they wanted to add something a little real to the game doesnt make Nintendo evil...
@RoboRandy1 In link's world, the currency is the rupee, which is real/ the same in India. I only say this because a lot of people ignorantly think indian is muslim. Does that further prove that Nintendo is secretly a terrorist? Or are you going to stop connecting invisible lines with invisible dots? I personally prefer this version, my cartridge had it and it wasnt even the gold one, HAHAHA!!!!!!!
But this is the same song as the later one, the only difference is they changed the islamic chanting to some wierd chant
giygas28 4 days ago
what is the song that warps you to this temple called again i forgot
MrGoldenbeard 6 days ago
@MrGoldenbeard Bolero of Fire
SuperYoshiBrosFan 4 days ago
@MrGoldenbeard Bolero of Fire?
JSchmidt259 2 hours ago in playlist Liked videos
So freakin creepy...
alexsvideos1 1 week ago
Wow, this is really creepy. I don't remember whether or not I played this version when I was a kid.
NerdMan1993 1 week ago
Why is it that the fire temple music different when I play it on my gamecube?????
dirtychris732 1 week ago
@dirtychris732 Some changes were made to later versions of Ocarina of Time, such as the Fire Temple music, and the Gerudo symbol. I guess Nintendo thought it was offensive to Muslims even though I read that there never was any public outcry from them.
NerdMan1993 1 week ago
I wonder if the boss or dungeon itself has religious meaning to it. This seems a bit too deep to come from nowhere. The chants itself overwhelm my ears.
PredictableCritic 1 week ago
the chant was not removed because of muslims, no one know why nintendo removed it from some versions before release.
ManvsMachine7 1 week ago
that whole muslim thing ... they're just over-thinking things, come on its just video game music :/
kooozle 1 week ago
It never actually offended anybody, no Muslim groups ever complained about the song. Nintendo only removed it because they feared it MAY cause controversy. Thus both editions are still available...
Oodacious 2 weeks ago
I have Musulmin friends that, instead of feeling offended by this song, they just like it, as a song of any temple.
DarkStarshades 2 weeks ago
Man, I thought the shadow temple one was creepy. well, both these are. I was playing the game at night, lights off and kinda got scared
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Iluvmydogz4ever 2 weeks ago
This song.. being a Muslim myself, I can sit in a room with this song on infinite loop and be the happiest man on the world. It gives me Iman for some reason.
BaltoHusky345 2 weeks ago
@BaltoHusky345 What's Iman?
Delfino224 2 weeks ago
@Delfino224 Iman is faith.
BaltoHusky345 2 weeks ago
It's sad that a singular group of people have the ability to get absolutely anything they want changed. If a group of Buddhists, or Christians, or even Wiccans were offended, they would be told to take a hike, and grow a pair.
But when MUSLIMS complain. Oh no. Fear of terrorism. We better do exactly what they say, without complaint.
I'm sure even non-violent(normal) Muslims are offended at the implications of this. They've become completely immune to criticism or satire, through violence.
lapinbeau 3 weeks ago 2
@lapinbeau Yeah,I'm a Christian,and my religion's teachings are against gay marriage,abortion,etc. but if we complain,we don't get anything...
Delfino224 2 weeks ago
I let my little Friend Ethyn listen to this song and he was like, it sounds funny. I was like, Ethyn doesn't it sound a bit scary to you, and he's like, no, and he's only five years old. The chanting scared the shit out of me when I was little and it still does a tiny bit, probably because the chanting was used in a scary instrumental in hell based Temple of Flames. Now that I know that the chanting is just a prayer to a God named Allah, it doesn't seem so scary anymore.
VaatiTheWindDemon 4 weeks ago
I wish they would have kept this in the game. It sounds so much better. I like creepy music, and creepiness kinda fits the temple. For some reason the idea of Ganon feeding Gorons to a dragon disturbed me deeply and I felt like I actually wanted to save them. The chants would have added to the experience. Dumb censorship. Also, I hope everyone enjoyed this comment because YOUTUBE KEEPS GIVING ME AN ERROR MESSAGE SO I HAVE TO KEEP TRYING >:l
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I wish they would have kept this in the game. It sounds so much better. I like creepy music, and creepiness kinda fits the temple. For some reason the idea of Ganon feeding Gorons to a dragon disturbed me deeply and I felt like I actually wanted to save them. The chants would have added to the experience. Dumb censorship.
ItachiTenshi 1 month ago
I wish they would have kept this in the game. It sounds so much better. I like creepy music, and creepiness kinda fits the temple. For some reason the idea of Ganon feeding Gorons to a dragon disturbed me deeply and I felt like I actually wanted to save them. The chants would have added to the experience. Dumb censorship.
ItachiTenshi 1 month ago
This song, is so ominous... Kinda creeps me out, but I like it better than the original.
XoxenKnight 1 month ago
this song is just amazing
Serotis 1 month ago
4:27-4:37 seems like Gorons saying ''Ganon is a murderer'' although I think it's just Muslims praising Allah
ScarisClaudius 1 month ago
To be fair, it does sound like an Islamic chant or something along those lines. It's also pretty creepy too >.>
kittyrawrz2 1 month ago
Had they put this in the game, I probably would have been scared to death as a kid! XD
Avaz40 1 month ago
dat fake door!
LeonPowalski1 1 month ago
Kind of glad they changed it actually, this version is pretty creepy lol.
WindWaker910 1 month ago
I love the original, the later versions are so boring because the chanting is missing. :-(
geoboii1 2 months ago
I gotta say, Ocarina of Time definetly does the overall best with the dungeon background music.
gameaddict51 2 months ago
This scares me D:
MsMineandcrafter 2 months ago
@MsMineandcrafter lol same here!
ZeldaofHyrule777 2 months ago
It seems like this temple mocks you... the big key is through a door right in front of you and in a goron's cage, and the boss is just to the left. Yet you have to climb all the way to the 5th floor for the hammer so you can actually free the goron and get the key. Well plaid, Fire Temple...
bjornx2 2 months ago
Damn I guess I have one of the earliest copies of the game! Sweet! :D
munchkinmonkey100 2 months ago 2
@munchkinmonkey100
Me to
i had the red blood, the moon in the mirror shield and this music in the fire temple :D
luulol 1 month ago
@chalice4ever yr right it's really creepy.it should of been in the shadow temple instead
TheKingsFW 2 months ago
Why could they not just record a generic gibberish chant and use that?
ReloadPsi 2 months ago
Wow, this version is bad-ass. I thought the version with the throat-singing and what I now realise must just be a keyboard choir WAS the version that was considered too controversial but there ya go :P
ReloadPsi 2 months ago
If I can remember, the 3DS version doesn't have this version in it.
Awesom3Gamer 2 months ago
@Awesom3Gamer Why would it? Not even the later editions of the original have it.
christbl58 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@christbl58 I know, it's actually disappointing. I like this version better. More creepy + awesome!
Awesom3Gamer 2 months ago
If this place was a prison, this must have been a LOT better than alcatraz (by the way when you hear the men singing, that might be the voice of the prisoners lost souls, forbidden to leave for eternity).
lilchris9cmb 3 months ago
I also miss the chanting version. As a kid the Shadow Temple didn't creep me out very much. Because of this music and all the scared Gorons who were going to be fed to Volvagia I always found the Fire Temple to be creepier. Shadows don't scare me... but the consuming power of fire did.
definitelyeric 3 months ago
@definitelyeric ill teach you to fear the shadows
NightshifterXD 2 months ago in playlist LoZ Soundtrack
I have the N64 version with the chant. The song has always creeped me out in some way. As a kid, I was stuck on this dungeon for a long time, so eventually I started imagining the chant saying "Head's up marines, head's up marines, head's up marines *dramatic death scream*"
beaver193 3 months ago 5
I am one of the lucky people that still has the chant in the background, and I always thought it was like that. I only recently (a year or two) learned that there was this version...
The chants are better.
JackMLupin 3 months ago 11
Regardless of all the religious bullshit, the chants are awesome.
ChrisGalford 3 months ago
@ChrisGalford seems you judge a lot, right?
MitoMito0 1 month ago
I wonder who provided the voices in this song. Everytime I hear it, I think of guys in white robes chanting around a fire, and the leader is reading from a prayer book.
Zmario116 3 months ago
this one is way better than the one they changed it to
nattybro92 3 months ago 4
where did you find this sound:)? in the game it does not sound like this, but I like this sound
Linnipinne01 3 months ago
@Linnipinne01 they ended up changing the N64 version from the downloaded version i have the n64 and im only 12!
MegaBattleknight 3 months ago
@Linnipinne01 that is because the music in the fire temple is different when you have the gold cartridge edition
superaziz14 3 months ago
This is very beautiful... It makes me kind of sad that i got the censored version.
SparklePrincePeasley 3 months ago
i feel like this song should have been on the Shadow temple, it goes hand in and with the creepy vibe. thats just me though
chalice4ever 3 months ago
i love this theme of the fire temple than the other. I can't believe they changed it.
ZeldaCrazy123 4 months ago
I think it has nothing to do with censorship and more to do with not owning the right to the sound clip. It wouldn't be below someone like a WMG executive to blame Muslims.
Yamamanama 4 months ago
in parts of the chant the person is saying allah and allahu Akbar which means God and God is the greatest... the rest of it is hard to make out, but definitely has Islamic influence. Imo it doesn't give it a creepy feeling at all infact it's almost serene and comforting, a complete contrast to the look and feel of the actual dungeon
brownrob1980 4 months ago
Man I wish they had made Zelda64 with all the extra temples... makes me kinda sad...
FrogJam95128 4 months ago 4
@FrogJam95128 I was hoping they'd add the extra temples and other scrapped material in the remake, even if it didn't change the story at all (like if it was just an optional thing on the menu to be played separate from the game), but they didn't... I would have liked to see Fado with her disgustingly adorable updated model get the attention she was originally entitled to.
UTAU53Yui 2 months ago
Volvagia. They at LEAST could've changed the name.
1UpMmushroom 4 months ago
The chanting would have made this song better. It makes it a lot creepier.
kickitsmooth 4 months ago
@kickitsmooth it USED to be in it, but they removed it!
sonicaze97 4 months ago
This song reminds me of the megaton hammer for some reason...
AMPTNation 4 months ago
I heard that this summer is going to be really hot this year. Sometime around then, I will play this song on my iPod.
SirFair1 5 months ago 41
@SirFair1 but it's almost october, and it's past summer time. did you mean next year's summer?
youngmyers212 5 months ago
@youngmyers212 Not really. I live in Australia, so where it is winter for you, it's summer for us.
SirFair1 5 months ago
@SirFair1 oh, i'm sorry about that. i'm not familiar with other timezones.
youngmyers212 5 months ago
@SirFair1 Interesting. Just to let you know, I live in a tropical island known as Puerto Rico, so that means its kinda summer for us the whole year, 24 hours of day, seven days a week. :P
Though I personally wish to live in a huge temperate country, instead of a tiny tropical island :(
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SirFair1 5 months ago
I think the erie chanting makes the fire temple seem scary and it needs it because you'd remeber it more like the water temple, everyone remebers that because it was a bitch of a puzzle :S
Wariokart65 5 months ago
You know, maybe they took the chanting out because it didn't fit the Zelda Universe? Why would there be monks praying about Allah in a fire temple? More specifically, in a land where Muslims don't exist. To me it seems like Nintendo just wanted the world to be more convincing, and the chanting kinda takes away from that.
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Whenever I get to this temple I drop my controller right away and start dancing on the spot. I can't control it!
BugKilledTangerine 5 months ago
@BugKilledTangerine Same here! This song is funky in its own way. Koji Kondo- best vg composer eva!
HumourWinsAgain 4 months ago
Even if there were Islamic prayers in the song, wouldn't they be proud to have their religion play part in such a great game?
lolligeir 5 months ago 76
@lolligeir well yes for the muslims but no for other religions because when the OoT came many people complained about this song in various countries (U.S.A and europe)
TheDant2 5 months ago
@lolligeir Muslims are the easiest to offend people on earth.
MrRodneyBewes 4 months ago 6
@lolligeir It was proved to be a myth- there was no outcry.
LadyAlzers 3 months ago 3
@lolligeir yeah but theyre so mamones
cocotorpe 3 months ago
@lolligeir @Megabrain3000 : in Islam music is prohibited (of course it doesn't mean they don't sing). But singing verses from the coran is completely forbidden. So it's obvious why they removed it. And I'm happy with it cause the other one's better in my opinion
InfinityDz 2 months ago
@InfinityDz @lolligeir @Megabrain3000 Not exactly. The majority of Muslims today are totally fine with music and having verses spoken or sung in non-offensive ways. But, like every faith/community/discipline/sect/club/organization or whatever, you have the right-wingers who can get offended pretty easily, and because they are so loud they are always heard first... My friends are Muslim and they love this song.
PoseidonKross2009 2 months ago 8
@lolligeir that's not the issue though. the problem is that it's the "fire" temple, and you can't deny that this place somewhat represents hell. I'm Muslim, and I'm not offended by this, it's just that the chanting/prayers are being tied to hell.
ZeldaRealm 1 month ago 2
@lolligeir
wowftw120 1 month ago
@lolligeir I would have to agree and I believe the game was made in japan and I believe they had good intentions and were not trying to offend anyone. Also japan is a homogenous country.
sinbadoakley1990 1 month ago
@lolligeir Having Islamic chants in a temple that sort of resembles hell? Don't think so. It wasn't changed because Muslims were offended, it was changed because Nintendo thought they would.
eoPism 1 month ago
@eoPism it accually was changed becvouse of muslims tey complained about it sopnintendo had to take itaway same with the muslimseal on the blocks and mirror shield they where canged from a cresent moon and star toa gerudo symbol
heroofmask 3 weeks ago
@heroofmask I doubt it, since they changed it very quick. Finding a 1.0 and 1.1 version of Ocarina of Time is uncommon. But please, show me source if you have.
eoPism 2 weeks ago
There was never a muslim outcry about the fire temple, or the gerudo symbol. It's a myth. Nintendo proactively changed it in later versions so as to erase the possibility of offending anyone.
It doesn't bother me much, though the original Gerudo symbol is far cooler.
lshaw17 5 months ago
Anyone notice that the upper room 2nd to the right looks like Pac-Man? lol
Enragedoctopus11596 5 months ago 3
i have the original gold cartridge. i will keep it with me until i die
GibbsGibberstein 5 months ago 3
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BugKilledTangerine 5 months ago
Except for the chanting, this song sounds much like the intro/background part of Stone Tower.
Salthead75 5 months ago
It clear that the developers wanted the chanting to mean something due to the face that the music sometimes gets lower when the chanting starts.
enclosedfury 5 months ago
@enclosedfury due to the face? I think you mean due to the fact...
HyenaNewsNetwork 5 months ago
@enclosedfury due to the face? I think you mean due to the fact...
HyenaNewsNetwork 5 months ago
@HyenaNewsNetwork Yes, I meant "fact". Simple typo that is easily corrected by the reader.
enclosedfury 5 months ago
@enclosedfury umadbro?
HyenaNewsNetwork 5 months ago
Both versions of the song were made before it was released.
Jonascience2 5 months ago
I'm not Islamic, but I thought the chanting was so cool when I was a kid. :D
When I finally got older, I had some Turkish teachers who were Islamic and they translated the Arabic chanting. It made the temple so cool. :O
Iceechibi 5 months ago
@Iceechibi Really? What are they saying?
TrueGamer13 5 months ago
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@TrueGamer13 Umm, something like "There is no God but Allah" and "God is the greatest". I think there was one more, but I'm not all too sure.
Iceechibi 5 months ago
I always thought that the fire temples theme did'n fit the game. Compared to the rest it was a little bit to minimalistic, well now I know why. Although I'am a muslim I would have been proud about hearing our religious chants in the game.
pogoism1 5 months ago
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1:20 D:
FAGGOKIR 6 months ago
When I first heard the voices in the song, I thought I was supposed to go toward them for the longest time...then I found out it was the song...
jibber102 6 months ago
Allahu snackbar.
PObserver 6 months ago
i'm wondering what the voices are at 0:43
superaziz14 6 months ago
@superaziz14 It's chanting, Sounds alot like there saying "We All Hail"
BeforeThePlagues 6 months ago
@BeforeThePlagues But in a different language, and they're talking about Allah.
Natendo64 6 months ago
Man i remember this.Who remembers the first version of the mirror shield...good times :D
FreakAlchemist 6 months ago
8 people's parents never bought them the gold cartridge.
ORCLOVE 6 months ago
@ORCLOVE My parents never bought me the gold cartridge and I liked it. I kinda almost feel like I missed out, this version has a certain creepiness to it, and it's pretty awesome.
ducuss 6 months ago
They probably removed it because it was too creepy.
Hoodoo65 6 months ago
@Hoodoo65 They removed it because of religious issues.
cyberneticimpostor 6 months ago
Hi, my name's RoboRandy1 and I really don't have anything better to do in my time rather than start arguments on videos with music in them from a game that was made over 10 years ago.
TheHorseWife 6 months ago
i promise, if i become a musician i will sample this in one of my songs.
MichaelBrownMJ 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 I don't want to get involved in your debate, but, tell me: why do this? You knew what kind of stance the majority of people who frequent this page hold. You drop a bomb like, "what were the game makers thinking?" and then act surprised when hoards of Zelda fans disagree. Were you planning on changing someone's mind? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but I should let you know that petty insults like "12 year old troll" kind of comes off as (don't take it the wrong way) desparate.
10INTM 6 months ago
@10INTM
When I'm dealing with ignorant heathens on Youtube there isn't a better label.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 People, maybe we shouldn't be talking to this guy. If he wants to think he's got everything figured out and that he represents the pinnacle of sound logic then why not let him? He'll think he's won and feel good about himself and we can enjoy the comments section once he's gone.
10INTM 6 months ago 13
@10INTM
Don't think you've got everybody on your side because you've been clearly disproven. If you acknowledge that you've been shut down, go without posting anything.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
Maybe it's Gorons who are chanting. I mean, Volvagia was freed before Link went into the fire temple, so maybe the chanting are Goron souls who were killed by Volvagia. Just some thoughts.
trect18 6 months ago
Allah liked this 266 times, beat that muslim dislikers!
TheMachinimanator 6 months ago
I thought the Shadow Temple was scary!!
If I'd have heard THIS when I first played this game as a kid, I probably would have had to put the controller down and have someone else beat it for me!! x_x
truegamer44 6 months ago
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truegamer44 6 months ago
I thought the Shadow Temple was scary.
If I hear THIS when I first played this game as a kid....
I'd probably would have had to put the controller down and have someone else beat this temple!! x_x
truegamer44 6 months ago
This music is creepy as heck.. thumbs up if you agree! If it will let you anyway :P
Clee650 6 months ago
I'm Muslims and i don't found this offensive so i don't know why they censure the song :/
JOSHYTIT1 6 months ago 16
@JOSHYTIT1
A lot of people, though, did find it offensive. :P I'm not one of them, just saying lol
MagitekStudio 5 months ago
@JOSHYTIT1 well they took it out to avoid controversy.
TheDant2 5 months ago
@JOSHYTIT1 wait what? censor?what does it have to do with muslims? someone fill me in?
GibbsGibberstein 5 months ago
@GibbsGibberstein in some parts you can hear a chant of a muslim and it says something like: In The Name of Allah the most merciful and beneficent. so they removed it to prevent controversy
TheDant2 5 months ago
@TheDant2 thanks :) i still think they sgould have let it though.
GibbsGibberstein 5 months ago
@GibbsGibberstein your welcome, well in some roms and N64 cartidges (the very first that came out) you can hear this and find the original mirror shield.
TheDant2 5 months ago
This game is more than legendary.....
Brollyhero93TOP10 6 months ago 2
I hate the stupid losers of the pc world and overprotective parents who ruined this song.
MrSuperleobros 6 months ago
i woke up and this music just poped into my head
volvagia
volvagia
volvagia
volvagia
volvagia
volvagia
volvagiaaaaa...
NintendoFan7141 6 months ago 4
I love the pissing-off-Muslims version better than all the later ones. Nintendo also removed the crescent moon from the Mirror Shield and the blue blocks in the Water Temple because of complaints from the Muslim community.
RunoGruno 6 months ago 2
@RunoGruno
What does Fictional, Gerudo symbols have to do with muslims? And why would they include this in a kids game? Although when I played I never thought of MUSLIMS shouting, I just thought of it as tortured ghosts or something. CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY PROVES THE VOICES ARE SPEAKING MUSLIM???
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 *sigh* Exactly...the Muslims SHOULDN'T have gotten outraged, but they found a way to get offended over the Middle Eastern imagery used in the game. I don't know whose voices were recorded for this song, but it IS a Muslim prayer; the kind played from minarets that informs followers that it is time to pray toward Mecca. You can even look up the translation online. Koji Kondo thought it would provide the perfect atmosphere, and it did...until some Muslims complained.
RunoGruno 6 months ago
@RunoGruno
If that's an official statement than that would explain alot. But according to pop fiction, they refuse to commment. AND they proved that Muslim community outcries WERE NOT THE CAUSE. Version 1.2 was already made, (The version with the chants removed), on October 25th, ALMOST a month before even version 1.0 was made. So the Muslims COULDN'T have complained about because the game hadn't been released ANYWHERE in the world. So there are very few possibilites why this is.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RunoGruno
THAT is the true mystery. And they also included Muslim symbolism like the arabic flag. I just think Nintendo has Dark Alterior motive.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 What motive!? To make the game awesome!? If you're going to get all conspiracy theorist over Ocarina of Time then this conversation is over.
RunoGruno 6 months ago 2
@RunoGruno THERE WAS NO FUCKING REASON TO INCLUDE RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS AND IDEOLOGY. Let alone , MUSLIM RELIGION. NINTENDO IS A DAMN CHILDRENS VIDEO GAME COMPANY. MUSLIM SYMBOLS AND PRAYERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN A HARMLESS, E RATED, KIDS GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE REGARDLESS OF ANY "AMBIENCE". WTF WERE THEY THINKING???
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 Those symbols existed long before the Muslims. It's a MOON! And about your religion comments; how many video games and movies have epic choruses of Latin ballads in the background in a style that mirrors those large Catholic hymns? A lot! Did the Christians get angry? No!
RunoGruno 6 months ago
@RunoGruno
Because It means a lot more in a post 9-11 world. Arabics and Muslims are now viewed as terrorists even though that wasn't the case 13 years ago. And there is no denying the fact that those aren't random symbols. IT'S THE MUSLIM Flag. So that's another controversy in itself. They obviously put muslim symbols and music into the game. There are so many questions regarding that fact. And I'm very curious to get to the bottom of it. As I said in my previous comments.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 The game came out in 1998 and was changed as a result of complaints BEFORE 2001 and there is not such thing as a Muslim flag. The flag design DOES exists in two Muslim countries, but it's not the "Muslim flag".
JOdawla5 6 months ago
@JOdawla5 Nitpicking doesn't solve anything.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 It blows your argument that the gamemakers should've been sensitive in a post-9/11 world COMPLETELY to hell since it was BEFORE the events.
JOdawla5 6 months ago
@JOdawla5
HOW ABOUT ACTUALLY READING THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 I did and RunoGruno made some great points whereas you did not.
JOdawla5 6 months ago
@JOdawla5
Of course. How could a 12 year old, possibly understand?
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 What are you afraid of children being exposed to? Are you afraid that they'll fall to their knees and convert to Islam or are you afraid that Muslims will retaliate? The first one is unrealistic and the second one is incredibly offensive to the general Muslim population as well as advocating for some sort of appeasement towards extremism. It's a form of melody, THAT'S IT as far as the gamer is concerned.
MeLikeyLikey100 6 months ago
@MeLikeyLikey100
Ambience isn't an excuse for semi-hidden symbolism in a late 90's game for children. I'm not afraid of anything. I don't know why Nintendo went to the trouble of putting those things in the game when a Fantasy Land has nothing to do with the current world. I don't have any answers just common sense. Whatever, Trolls Gonna Troll.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 You've only said it's wrong and haven't given a good explanation WHY it's wrong. You might as well say Link shouldn't be using a sword because "having swords in video games is wrong".
MeLikeyLikey100 6 months ago
@MeLikeyLikey100
Okay, I'll spell it out. Obviously this didn't mean jack 13 years ago. Not to the world, ME. Now it does. And a whole lot of questions have been raised by Pop Fiction that still lye uncovered. And yes it is disturbing to me to hear Muslim Prayers in an innocent game. It just didn't belong.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 ...Sooooo why are you still faulting the game makers for not predicting the future? You just said it didn't matter at the time of the game's creation.
MeLikeyLikey100 6 months ago
@MeLikeyLikey100
Obviously they did if they made a version before the ORIGINAL was released, fag. And you call yourself a fan. Pathetic.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 ...Soooo why did you say it DIDN'T matter? I should just post your own comments and you can argue with yourself.
MeLikeyLikey100 6 months ago
@MeLikeyLikey100 Seriously, dude, just let it go. He'll try baiting you and will say anything he needs to say to feel satisfied, but just let it go.
10INTM 6 months ago
@10INTM
Someone's a little butthurt, that they love to start an argument and can't back it up.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 Why are being so foul to 10INTM? He was never even arguing with you. Heck, we don't even know where he stands on the issue. This whole debate is so stupid because it is nothing but a challenge of opinions. It's just "I think it's not appropriate and here's my opinion why" verses "I think it's appropriate and here's my opinion why". There's no facts on either side that PROVE it is or isn't appropriate.
RunoGruno 6 months ago
@RunoGruno
We have already solved it outside of this video. Don't butt in to conversations you don't know about.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@MeLikeyLikey100
Stop pulling my words out of context when you obviously don't know what your own mean. I said it didn't matter BACK THEN but NOW IT DOES. Dumb bitches are making me hungry.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 wtf where they thinking? I think they were thinking about developing a great and epic game with an incredible story. Just because they wanted to add something a little real to the game doesnt make Nintendo evil...
AnthoFlex 6 months ago
@AnthoFlex It was blatantly innapproriate no matter what you consider "Ambience".
RoboRandy1 6 months ago
@RoboRandy1 In link's world, the currency is the rupee, which is real/ the same in India. I only say this because a lot of people ignorantly think indian is muslim. Does that further prove that Nintendo is secretly a terrorist? Or are you going to stop connecting invisible lines with invisible dots? I personally prefer this version, my cartridge had it and it wasnt even the gold one, HAHAHA!!!!!!!
*Begins chanting*
AnthoFlex 6 months ago
@AnthoFlex
Have with fun with that, co-conspirator.
RoboRandy1 6 months ago