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  • and last, what we call an ordinary or extraordinary hypothesis is all in the eye of the beholder.

    You can test any hypothesis in science as long as the hypothesis is testable, falsifiable, and makes a prediction in the normal distribution under scientific and statistical criteria...

  • @crazypills2 All experiments whether they are from clinical, biological, psychological, etc. are open to lurking variables just like psi-experiments. On the contrary to this video, lurking variables (e.g. sensory leakage, publication bias, etc.) have been slowly adressed and controled as time went by. Finally, the sheep-goat assumption is a valid hypothesis in scientific research since it makes a prediction in both sides of the normal distribution and legitimate for two-tailed t-test...

  • @crazypills2 Sorry, but this antagonistic video of parapsychology is very misleading. It is so misleading, it even expresses your profound ignorance in its literature. "Parapsychology lacks independent replication" Wrong, if you look at, for instance, the ganzfeld you can clearly see the weighted z-score averages in the meta-studies from different researchers have been replicated. Second, the fact that psi experiments are open to lurking variables doesn't make parapsychology bunk. (continue)

  • It should be apparent that I mixed up this video for vid on ID please leave a comment here nonetheless

  • So your analogy of the printer as with most analogies is irrelevant or simply not suited with the ideas you are really dealing with.So ID can be judged as a scientific proposition as it is asserting something about about that which is empirically accessible and its validity/invalidity can be established by empirical means

  • @TheTruthgeneral "So ID can be judged as a scientific proposition as it is asserting something about about that which is empirically accessible and its validity/invalidity can be established by empirical means"

    Can it? ID is a moving target, as shown with the printer analogy. Once you demonstrate something isn't irreducibly complex (e.g. human eye, bacterial flagellum), they simply move the target and say the components upon which these evolved are irreducibly complex. ID isn't truly testable.

  • The problem with your presentation in your improper definition of intelligent design.While I agree with you that it is not necessary to posit its validity there is a distinction between metaphysical creation and the intelligent design proposition.So if a suitable use of Darwinian mechanisms can properly reduce that which is classed as irreducible by ID proponents then one has refuted their main assertion and they cannot go any further as intelligent design is not a philosophical position.

  • As are your unfounded claims in the video, crazypills2. where's your reference list? (I'll go through again and post a note with the specific inaccuracies)

  • @NanZing1 "I'll go through again and post a note with the specific inaccuracies"

    Ok, I'll be happy to review your list. I did note a source in my description box.

  • Sorbonne as Oxford among many others have not been in that fields you quote here - : > advice - > do read all the newnesses, by the great scholars and all involved. In science, we've had a long way to many things - > parapsychology is studied by science and covered by laws of studies under the field of academics - the results as hypotheses are varied and open to analysis and more things.

    ps. - > not everything has to be reproduced for scientific study, there are evaluations of fewer basis

  • Parapsychology has redefined its purposes under, now, the all looks of the all rules of science, it is to high-standard universities right now, as Sorbonne, Oxford among others - > its themes are covered now, by the studies of chemistry, physics, philosophy, theology, etc., to the laws of observation - limitation and the acceptance of all theses to be in for the real look and debate of the greatest in the scientific field - > explanations vary and not all is possible to check right now.

  • Very concise and clear but shot through with a number of inaccuracies. Want to convince folk who are open minded? Get your facts straight.

  • @NanZing1 "Very concise and clear but shot through with a number of inaccuracies"

    Please elaborate. Unsubstantiated statements are meaningless.

  • it is not true to say 'without the use of the senses'

    replace it with' the use of higher senses' or 'extended senses' -

    by those who have unfolded them .

    that would be a better, truer definition.

  • In order to manifest it, is usually only achieved by ones with knowing. As we align with our Pos+/Neg- . When your asleep is the most likely moment to experience the 6th sense in full.

    Meditation technics with masters involves the blackscreen. This in time will allow you to set your destination. As you navigate, the observer AWAKES! This in turn manifests conscious control in deep dream states. Back then people thought dream paralysis was schitzophrenics. And psychology still opresses thinking

  • Its in the EMF amplified throughout your body & generated as a field that can translate outer signals. Its located at the base of the brain. When we slip in time, we recieve frequencies that translate into coming events. As if our electrons were already there. Quantum theory sudjests just that, as we do not see our negative polarity, when we do logically observe, the wave function colapses it into physical knowing. This is what is. The Power of the observer is the only limitation.

  • @LendMeYourHand - "Its in the EMF amplified throughout your body & generated as a field that can translate outer signals"

    How do you test this?

  • EEG has discovered a pre- response to stimuli tied to fear & excitement. They used average brains. a very rare number broke the frequency range by exceeding 30htz-60htz. Fighter pilots got 24htz. These same people that were recieving signals beyond what we originally thought was our limitation, also were in multiple states simultaniously(Delta-Alpha-Gam­ma). This was only originally found in master meditators, but the patients who unknowingly broke these rules were imaginative artists. thank you

  • @LendMeYourHand This was only originally found in master meditators, but the patients who unknowingly broke these rules were imaginative artists."

    Can you point me to published studies related to your claims?

  • The new intro is spiffy and all, but I miss the clip of Will Ferrell from "Zoolander" lol.

  • "The new intro is spiffy and all, but I miss the clip of Will Ferrell from "Zoolander" lol. " - MagnusIan

    You never know, Mugatu might come back :-)

  • Parapsychology may be false science, but it makes good sci-fi, nevertheless, 5 stars.

  • "Parapsychology may be false science, but it makes good sci-fi" - NubianTribesman

    You're damn right. You don't think I watch Star Wars because princess Leia was in a bikini do you?...wait...bad example.

  • The experimental conditions shown in this video show such potential for all manner of extraneous variables don't they Steve? I remember when I did my degree, just about everything was computerised — so as to avoid goat, sheep and any other kind of farmyard agenda. Great video, particular your exposure of the untestable hypothesis of unconscious doubt/belief.

  • Thanks Link. Ok, if not too personal, what is your degree in?

  • Psychology, but it turned out to be a juicy mix of all kinds of stuff — all the usual social/cognitive/experimental aspects, but also dedicated modules on evolution, philosophy, behavioural neurology, psychopharmacology, anthropology. I remember sitting next to this person in the evolution module — she use to open her notepad, write the date, and write in caps, 'EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY' before the class started. Amazing isn't it.

  • I am correcting a post that made it seem like my friend TheraminTrees thinks "evolution is just a theory."

    Here's the entire quote: "I remember sitting next to this person in the evolution module — she use to open her notepad, write the date, and write in caps, 'EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY' before the class started."

    Sorry Link...I guess the U.S. still has the patten on stupidity.

  • in different accasions I felt when something bad happened to my mom or someone in my family... and we live in different countries.

    my mom was seriously ill and I was working when I heard her calling my name. yielling at me! and as I said we live in different countries. I had to tell my boss I wasn't feeling good and I went home. call mom, wasn't there, call my brothers. "everything's ok" they said. 2 weeks after that my brother told me " we almost lost mom" !! but we didn't want you to know.

  • I have experienced similar situations all my life. my mom, my sisters and I have that in common. we have some kind of conexion. how do you explain that?

  • How do you explain it?

  • well, I can't explain it. I just have that kind of experiences, and I'm not the one trying to prove the parapsychology is a false cience... that's why I asked the experts! are you one of them? after all, I was not the one posting on your comments!

  • You're saying that your family have a special connection, I simply asked how you explain it...

    I've not tried to prove anything either, also, what's wrong with replying to comments? There's a "reply" button next to what you said.

  • Ok, sorry. you're right,there's a reply button hehe! is just that every time I post a comment about something, I start getting offensive replies, attacking me and what I say. I've been in defensive mode lately! sorry about that.

  • Maybe you were thinking about your mother because you knew she was ill. And what you experienced is very common. Like sometimes I used to think of a random person and ended up bumping into them somewhere. I've also had some déjàvus that have shocked me. However, there's no physical nor psychological mind connections between any living being. And unfortunately results vary too much in this experiments, making it unmeasurable and untestable. Nice vid CrazyPills! 5/5 and fav!

  • well... I actualy DIDN'T know she was ill. when I heard her voice calling me I started feeling sick and my hands were shaking, so I left work because I though something was wrong with her. and I repeat, we live in different countries and I had contact with my family the week before that happened and everything was ok! until 3 weeks after I talked to her, they finally told me they didn't tell me because they new it would be impossible for me to go see her.

  • Mmmm it's interesting, however it ends up being only a mere coincidence. Your mother is probably a person that tends to get ill easily, and since she's a very special person to you, it would be very common for you to worry often about her. But I agree with you that you get a bad feeling when something goes wrong, but I think that small details are the cause, and your mind accidentally concludes the worst, not making it happen, but waiting for it to happen.

  • Excellent debunking.

  • "Excellent debunking." - ToddAllenGates

    Thanks for stopping by Todd.

  • Why did you start whispering at "sheep and goats"? Did a parapsychologist walk in to the house? :D

    Seriously - if this stuff isn't debunked by now, how can we EVER hope to debunk religious belief?

    nice job as always CP2.

  • "Why did you start whispering at "sheep and goats"? Did a parapsychologist walk in to the house? :D: - AA

    LOL. No, just poor editing:-)

    "Seriously - if this stuff isn't debunked by now, how can we EVER hope to debunk religious belief?"

    I'm surprised by the number of "atheists" who believe in the paranormal. I have popular friend on YT who has been blasted by atheists for his criticism of dualism.

    I'm thinking of making a series on "real atheists don't..." :-) Are you in?

  • Absolutely! I just think you might want to reword it. The problem, as you cast light on, is that "atheists" can and do believe all sorts of things. The only thing they should all be in agreement on is that there is no god/s.

    I've heard of atheists being against abortion, not accepting evolution, being against vaccination, for the death penalty, for anarchy, believing in dualism, believing in ghosts, believing in alien abduction, believing the Illuminati are taking over the world, etc.

  • While I am an atheist, I'm also a science respecting, secular humanist, reason and rationality based thinker, who is politically a democratic socialist. That gives some definition to my atheism. Others can be very, very different and they are still "atheists".

  • @AncientAtheist ....gee AA, you were doing real well until you got to your politics. I'd keep that part quiet.

  • Let me guess.... are you an American? White? Think free markets are the bomb?

    not trying to be a smartass at all. Just that it's almost a certainty, without knowing anything about your background other than the fact that you are an atheist and disagree with my politics that almost guarantees that I could blindly guess 3 things like that. ; )

  • @AncientAtheist ..Wow, your cold reading skills are good. Or you could have looked at my account homepage..Whatever....I just crack up when i run into a real socialist once in a while, and i'm just poking. You seem like a nice person so i don't want to clutter this page up with any more of my bullshit.

  • "The problem, as you cast light on, is that "atheists" can and do believe all sorts of things." - AA

    No *true* atheist would believe such things :-).

    "Real atheists don't eat quiche" is the name. This will satisfy the "fundie" in me while at the same time, create an interesting discussion :-) I'm pretty sure I just lost 500 subscribers by even suggesting this.

  • // No *true* atheist would believe such things //

    I like your attitude. Maybe we can convince them of such. I'm not sanguine. They often think their atheism demands such conclusions. I disagree, strongly.

    But I will say this - there's nothing in the definition of "atheist" that precludes any of those things. Atheist = no god beliefs. Nothing more.

    Why do you think you'd lose subs?

  • Thanks Jordan.

  • Indeed, Ockham's razor is the best approach.

  • "Indeed, Ockham's razor is the best approach." - LJonathan

    Indeed.

  • Great video! I look forward to more

  • "Great video! I look forward to more " - LithodidMan

    Unfortunately I never seem to have enough time, so these may come out slowly.

  • By chance alone, some expirements will get "postive" results for PSI if the standards for "positive" PSI are low enough, even with a fairly large sample sizes in individual test.

    Like rolling a dice, do it enough, and it will likely land on any number many, many times in a row on the number you want it to, that doesn't mean it's telepathically loaded dice.

  • "By chance alone, some expirements will get "postive" results for PSI if the standards for "positive" PSI are low enough, even with a fairly large sample sizes in individual test." - MinervaInTheBrain

    Yes, this is why science requires repeatability.

  • good video.

  • the study of bullshit.

  • Interesting subject, it's a subject that hits close to home for me. When I was a bible-believing Christian, I went through some tough times with my girlfriend, and we had broken up. There was another girl in my life, an acquaintance. I had a feeling about her, so I prayed with someone over the phone (they were in Tennessee, I was in Phoenix AZ) about her, and they got a vision of her and described her to a tee. They also described the situation that I didn't tell them about.

  • The funny thing here is that now she is a Christian, and it's my beliefs that have changed. I can no longer hold on to my old beliefs. Talking snakes & 6000 yr old earth don't work for me now. But now is that all ? I keep thinking there has to be something.

  • "I had a feeling about her, so I prayed with someone over the phone ... about her, and they got a vision of her and described her to a tee. They also described the situation that I didn't tell them about." - dannukesem

    I obviously can't speak specifically about this. However, we have a built-in cognitive bias called Subjective Validation. This is where we take a general description and make it specific to us. We are especially vulnerable to it when we are searching for answers.

  • The mind looks for patterns in the chaos, it's just the way it works. Yet in this situation details were provided, things that couldn't have been known. To be fair, her & I never did get together, and I don't care about it now, but I keep thinking "Where did that come from ?!" Religion can be pretty ridiculous, with many crazy ideas that I can no longer buy into. I've had to be honest with myself. Getting away from it in the last few years has been a struggle for me, as I was raised with it.

  • While parapsychology is indeed bunk, It is uncanny how a spouse can predict your behaviour and even your words in a conversation after a few years.

  • @KasparHauser4

    That is just the results from years of observation. Take it as a complement.

  • DFCDude

    Oh I agree with you 100%

    and thank you.

  • I would love to have pyrokinesis :p

  • Me too! There are a few people I know who could use a good toasting!

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