Funny how they always go back to how they are protecting us from Terrorist. I'm more endangered by a mugger or gang-banger (a US citizen) then some Taliban running through my neighborhood with an RPG.
THE LIES COME FROM EVERY WHERE . ITS A SHAME THAT SO MANY OF OUR POLITITIONS ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID AND BLIND. WE NEED TO START OVER. FIRE EVERY ONE OF THE LIARS THAT CLAIM TO HAVE OUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART. NO ONE THAT CURRENTLY SERVES SHOULD BE RE ELECTED. I PUSH FOR A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN OUR CANDIDATES AND THAT THEY BE BAND FROM RUNNING. WE NEED TO GET THE MONEY OUT. SO WE NEED TO FIRE IT. GET WITH IT PEOPLE.
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were drafted to LIMIT government and keep our PUBLIC SERVANTS in their place- as PUBLIC SERVANTS.
Now the servants want to take over the public. Not on my watch, boys and girls.
Free Speech was and is an excellent idea in that: We the People can readily identify TRAITORS who hold PUBLIC OFFICE and arraign them for a grand jury tribunal, then convict them of TREASON and have them HANGED, Lawfully.
@DStrike0083 bring them on. I will teach them what their oath means, why the flag on their shoulder is inverse, and the meaning of honor and integrity.
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent overthrow becomes inevitable. Send me to Gitmo and see who I bring back with me.
When/where ever I see articles with titles like "is the bill of rights/constitution/# amendment, etc, dead?". This is not something that should be asked & or debated online, in the media, etc. If it's really come to the point where we are pondering & asking ourselves these types of questions, they should instead be discussed outside the capitol building, by millions of heavily armed civilians. There is no such thing as a "guaranteed" right. Rights are a precious commodity & need defending.
The 4TH amendment died on 09/11/01. Terrorism they just love that word don't they? The shit heads running this country are the only threat to the people of America.
wow, this is america for you.....where is freedom and privacy now????
not one european country has this law....europe still has the freedom and rights, americans claim they have, but really, they dont....its called the patriot act....
pathetic....and actually sad....u can be searched, videotaped, phones tagged without warrant or court order and have your privacy violated,legally wow...what a nice civilize free country lol
Interesting to see republicans for this bill, and democrats against it at the time. Now, in 2011 republicans run from it and democrats embrace it! There reason was that we are at war, yet we are always at war with no site in end. Now instead of foriegn terrorist being targeted, the door is opened to me and you being potential terrorist. It alawys shows its true intentions in the end, and people continue to fall for the same tricks over an over. Very very sad to see us sold out by these liars!!!!
@44truefalse That's because they are all frauds. Paul, Kucinich, and Sanders are the only consistent voices in either house. Every other member spews the party line which flip flop as the power shifts.
@HammeredMedia I agree!The sad thing is that issa is now looking into fast and furious. I say that it is sad , not because it isn't the biggest scam pulled on the 2nd amendmant, but because i have no faith in him following it into the rabbit hole! Each side wars with each other over regulations, not because of principle, but over who is in charge of the regulation! If you look into the ruby ridge, or waco hearings you will see the exact game play! They will say it is wrong yet rule otherwise.
what i dont get is this - from 1991 that i'm aware of, the "protocol", "predators" and "carnivor" programs were in full swing and didnt care about legal issues, they just did what they wanted and watched who they wanted anyways and used dirty cops/judges for the warrants. why try to legalize it? theyr doing it anyways long before the patriot act or any other bill like this.
Science is the only answer to a solution if people want one. Half the people in washington dont know that law is an ideology' there is no mortal basis unless there is an agreement; Make no omission' but crap what does the federal gov education really teach about princples?
our country and our sovereign citizenship is being taken from us because we do not know our rights..if we dont know our rights..we have no rights..if we do not defend out rights in a timely manner when they are violated then we loose the right to fight that usurpation of our rights...stop watching footbal and p-laying grabass people!!! start learning your constitution and FIGHT DAMN IT!!!
3.if their powers are not suspended ( &they wouldnt be) then the bill of rights cant be suspended! what a bunch of traitors!!!! by u s code and am jur prud they are guilty of treason!!!
2. NOT EVEN A WAR can suspend the peoples rights!!!! no declaratiopn of 'marshal law' no act of war..NOTHING can suspend the sovereign rights of the people. does it make sense to suspend the alleged 'authority ' of the ones running the country i.e the pres/congress..etc if there is an act of war or or war on teror or war on whatever?
it matters not if they passed this bill....the bill of rights (and the constitution before) says clearly that no law can be written(much less passed) that denies any rights of the people. PERIOD...if it does ..it is NULL AND VOID!!!!! and if you/we are following the constitution,then we have no willfull intent to violate ANY law when we follow that bill of RIGHTS! however..i would say that the gov.elected officials who SWORE AN OATH OF OFFICE to UPHOLD the constitution...are guilty of TREASON!
The more that goes on the more I believe those conspiracy theorist that 9/11 was pulled off by our Govt. just to tighten the grips on their own citizens.
Shit, most people don't even know what their congress men and women are doing!. Wake the fuc up Everything is not OK.. we are becoming Nazi Germany. they will kill us before we even have a chance. this shit makes me sic
Sheila Jackson, although usually a low-level, foul mouthed "sistah" type, actually seems to see something in our Constitution that she likes. Funny thing is, she's likely thinking about the drug thugs back home and not wanting them to get busted, but as long as she's flapp'n her gums in favor of freedom, well, good for her!
Fascism, simple as that. This is based on pure paranoia, understandable to a certain extent but this is just retarded, listen to the guys talking about how good it is, It's just hollow metaphors.
I'm sorry but I can't help but laugh at the sound bite "you can be survailed for 60 days" replayed throughout many times... Its certainly not a funny thing that they are currently spying on us, it just made me laugh to hear that repated sound bite.
When all is said and done.....and karma reaps what it sows.....and judgement has passed......These statesmen will exerpeince a hell so unreal....and so fair to their actions
Indiana barne vs indiana states "We hold that there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers." The scotus is whittling away at the 4th amendment and it isnt right. Everyone knows the war on drugs is just throwing money away anyways, but to give the opportunity to police to knock on your dorr "assume" you are guilty and bust in because they thought you were doing somthing destroys the 4th. What ever happend to home sovriegnty? the gestapo loved these rights too.
@TheStrazy they SMELLED the marijuana coming from the door. they HEARD the folks trying to destroy the evidence and scuttling around in the apartment.
frankly, i could care less if someone is doing drugs, as long as they're only hurting themselves.
BUT those drugs are illegal, and they KNEW the drugs were illegal. they shouldnt have had them.
as such, the police coming in and inspecting the place seems 'reasonable' to me.
@TheStrazy in 'barnes', i copied what was said by the court.
it was because of the 911 call, his yelling at the police outside the apartment, and his wife saying 'let them in', PLUS his assaulting an officer that allowed the police to go into the apartment.
that's not 'whittling away' anyone's rights. he should have:
@TheStrazy really? go to 'the 4th amendment is dead' video. the guy is whining about a health inspector on his property...in 2007. obama wasn't president THEN, was he.
during the 'dunn' case, also 1987, the court ruled what is/is not covered by the 4th. bush was president.
or go to the 'hester' case (also before the supreme court). it was 1924, which said 'open fields aren't covered by the 4th' and said only 'curtilage' is. that was 37 years BEFORE OBAMA WAS BORN.
@neoconsnightmare3 Please looks at "barnes vs indiana" may 12 2011 and SCOTUS may 16 2011 kentucky ruling. It wasnt right then and its not alright now but then people actually paid attention to what bush and the government was doing, unlike today where they are shredding the 4th and no one is saying a word.
@TheStrazy ahh, i looked up 'barnes' and here's what the indiana supreme court said:
the police were responding to a 911 call placed by mr. barnes' wife. he was throwing the main phone against the wall to keep her from calling her sister. she used her cell phone to call 911 and said he was throwing things around. it was a 'domestic dispute'.
he walked out, ran into a police officer, they told him they were responding to the 911 all, he said he was leaving, the wife threw a bag at him.
he followed her back to their apartment, the police, STILL RESPONDING TO THE 911 call and now his yelling at them, went there.
when he walked into his door, he blocked the police from entering. his wife didnt direcly invite the police in, but she said 'stop this' and 'let them in' (invitation of one of the home owners?).
when a policeman tried to enter, barnes three him against a wall (misdemeanor). the two policement choke held him and tasered him.
"Here, the trial court‘s failure to give the proffered jury instruction was not error. Because we decline to recognize the right to reasonably resist an unlawful police entry, we need not decide the legality of the officers‘ entry into Barnes‘s apartment. We note, however, that the officers were investigating a ―domestic violence in progress‖ in response to a 911 call.
"A 911 call generally details emergency or exigent circumstances requiring swift police action. In these cases, the officers are responding to rapidly changing or escalating events, and their initial response is often based on limited information. "
"The officers cannot properly assess the complaint and the dangers to those threatened without some limited access to the involved parties. It is unrealistic to expect officers to wait for threats to escalate and for violence to become imminent before intervening. Here, the officers acted reasonably under the totality of the circumstances."
so, they indiana supreme court didnt say police could illegally enter your home and you can't resist.
@TheStrazy people didnt pay attention to what bush was doing...they all said 'yeah, the patriot act is good', because the figured they'd only be going after 'others' (muslims in this case).
most folks in the u.s. didnt whine when COINTELPRO was going on in the 1960s-1970s...but then again, they were only going after blacks and anti-war people, so i guess that made it okay.
you can't have it both ways. obama aint taking your rights, thats why the assault weapons ban wasnt resigned.
"Police do not need a search warrant if, after knocking on a closed door and announcing their presence, they discern that evidence of a crime is being destroyed on the other side, the US Supreme Court ruled Monday."
this is a tricky situation, but ultimately, that's life when you commit drug crimes.
"Police were in pursuit of an individual who had just purchased crack cocaine during an undercover sting operation. Uniformed police officers followed the suspect into an apartment complex, but did not see which of two apartments he entered – the door on the right or the door on the left.
As they approached, police noticed a strong odor of marijuana coming from under the door on the left. They assumed the suspect was hiding in that apartment. (In fact, he had entered the door on the right.)
Police knocked on the door on the left, announcing their presence. When no one answered, they pounded on the door. After hearing noises suggesting evidence was being destroyed, the police kicked the door open."
@TheStrazy Once inside the apartment, they noticed marijuana and powder cocaine in open view. A subsequent search revealed crack cocaine, cash, and drug paraphernalia.
Mr. King was convicted of drug trafficking and sentenced to 11 years in prison. On appeal, his lawyer argued that the police violated King’s Fourth Amendment rights by failing to obtain a search warrant before entering the apartment."
so, folks had weed and crack on a table, and tried to destroy the evidence.
@neoconsnightmare3 The rights are erodeing as evidence by this video, The government is slowly trying to do away with them. Obama is not totally at fault i agree, what my staement meant was, Bush passed the patriot act(treason in my book) and everyone screamed. Now the patriot act is still in force and the amendments are under fire with states and the SCOTUS. and no one is saying anything.
@neoconsnightmare3 As for these folks they need locked up i agree, but to errode the 4th amendment for everyone just opens the door for the next admin to bust in your house warrentless, arrest you for domestic terrorism, Indefinatly detain you for just disagreeing with the administration. The road to a dictatorship is a slow one. We fought for these rights in the revolution and they need to keep them as a check on the government no matter who is in charge. That is the way the syatem is set up .
@neoconsnightmare3 Think of the future abuses this opens up. The need for warrants led to the compiling of evidence against the people, With these laws flushing a toilet or running the sink can be construed to be "destroying of evidence" It is not the point of these two cases per say but the change in those rights opens up the door for abuses in future incounters. When future admins determine me or you are bad, the rules will be in place to arrest you with no evidence to the contrary.
@TheStrazy thing is, look at the 4th. it doesnt say warrants are needed for ALL searches. it protects 'persons, houses, papers and effects' from 'unreasonable searches'.
in the case of the yelling husband, one could argue that the 911 call (domestic dispute) made by his wife, plus his wife saying 'let them in', plus his yelling at the police (who told him to stop yelling or he could be arrested for disturbance of the peace) all allowed the police to enter his home 'reasonably'.
@neoconsnightmare3 Why keep creating laws and easier ways of getting people when the prison system is streched to its limits because people want to do non harmful things to themselves? Im not a big believer in darwinism (in its truest form dont get me wrong he was right) but wouldnt it be best to let some people be seperated from the herd?
Why do i need the government invading my home to dictate what my personal behavior is like behind close doors? There are some stupid laws also.
@TheStrazy as the constitution was written way back in 1787, if one is to say 'think of future abuses', then perhaps thats what they were doing back 230 years ago.
@neoconsnightmare3 I agree thats exactly what they were doing and to allow any court to expand the rights of the government to encroach apon those rights just opens the door for more encraochment in the future, Hence the erodeing of the 4th amendment. Like i said though people are trying to defend the governments actions by say "it wasnt me" and "they will never come for me" but abuses of power are on the horizon with the weakening of our 230 year old laws.
@neoconsnightmare3 The solutions are simple vote in members who will vote in laws prohibiting lobbyist and giant conglomerates, That cater to the infrastructure of the military complex, from buying votes, which lead to wholesale overstepping of the constitution to keep up the prison population for personal gain. The US has more people incarcerated than the rest of the world combined but people are too dumb to realize it and keep voteing the status quo.
the new world order has to be stopped.6 billion people on earth.It takes only one to make a difference and when our goverment says terrorist i think of my favorite terrorist Benjamin Franklin.Can you make a difference?Are you that 1?
the new world order has to be stopped.6 billion people on earth.It takes only one to make a difference and when our goverment says terrorist i think of my favorite terrorist Benjamin Franklin.
wow.....what a free country...any american who says today we are a free country,is a dumb fuck....now every European country has more freedom and more rights than we do.....wow...now we used to be a free country....now we are controlled by our own government lol, something socialized Europe doesnt even have....
Its kinda funny that the dumbie craps are against this bill on this video but which side will they be on when Obama starts his shit?yes they will be sucking his cock just like all the other morons!
@1388dimevader so, sucking bush's/cheney's cock makes more sense? let's just ask the 4500 dead americans in his two wasted wars if they willingly sucked cheney's dick.
what...quiet are you? you were all for their 8 years of taking a surplus and putting us in a deficit. or when cheney moaned 'ronald reagan taught us deficits mean nothing'.
you know jack about politics, economics or common sense.
The shame is that if they aren't just using words like "terrorism" and "dangerous"to manipulate us, then they are stupid....we are either being led by brilliant mastermind fiends, or the stupidest pieces of crap that the human race could drag up into power. -_- Bravo those in power fighting it, UNLESS they are doing it for show. By now even that last bit would not surprise me.
Why dont they spend all this time and money and go after all the rag head fucks that attacked us and make us all safer. Taking my guns, invading my property, censoring my speech, and tapping my phones does not make any of us safer!
terrorism this is the word they will use to strip the rights of the people i would rather live with the chance of terrorism that have my rights taken away. this isnt the same country i grew up in
This is a joke, they do this crap anyway! The Constitution is shredded and if you stand up for it you are called a violent teabagger! Watch how Chris Matthews will NOT letting the Oathkeepers guy talk ( search chris matthews and oathkeepers) Boehener was the main promotor of this crap. He is speaker of the house now. God help us! We need to hang all of those TRAITORS!
Isn't it funny how the Republicans are all about the Constitution nowadays, instead of wanting to overturn our most fundamental principles of government, like they were two years ago? I mean, it's almost like they're making decisions based on self-interest and a desire for power, instead of ones that are for the good of the American people.
One of the problems with the House is that Representatives can give their opinions or plead their cases but most of the time there's no one there to listen to them. Then they come in to vote, after not reading the bills or hearing any arguments against them.
I believe this is wrong, but don't bring out the whole freedom and all men are born equal bullshit. This nation was built with slaves. Quit being hypocrites.
(The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America."
(The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit) The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people."
if the founder fathers were alive to hear that bullshit after all they did to make this country they would be kicking some fucking teeth in. piece of shit people in DC. freedom or GTFO greedy fucksticks
Keep up crap like this and the People will rise up against the government, not a bunch of cave-dwelling terrorists somewhere who supposedly "hate us for our freedoms" and not because we try and force our way of life on them, as well as build bases on their land.
@swu880 EXACTLY!!!...The Corrupted Elect ("SERVANTS") opt to take Privilege and Power from the Citizen ("MASTER") in attempt to address the criminal...since the criminal does not observe the LAW...The SERVANT only accomplish angering the MASTER by taking ONLY his/her FREEDOMS
A Dangerous world? A Muslim with a bomb strapped to his waist?? hahahahahahahaah .... Try the Soviet Tsar Bomb from the cold war or Try living in Troy when the greeks attacked... those were scary times.
Life is dangerous... watch a squirrel while its eating... the fucker is scared shitless.
LIFE OWES U NOTHING. The only thing to fear here is the power junkies looking for more fix
Are people really this fucking stupid? It's the GOVERNMENT that is the terrorists. Not some towel heads from the middle east. Fuck the US. I'm so sick of this bullshit
if the government wanted to wipe their ass, then why didn't they just go out and buy a nice roll of charmin ultra soft toilet paper, instead of using the ruff, old, one ply, bill of rights?
At 1:27, we see the entire support for this bill shredded. We lacked the 'protection' of this bill since midnight Feb 1st until the bill passed. And guess what...we did just fine without it. Thank you for making the case of, at the VERY least, the lack of necessity of this bill, especially with all the sinister baggage it entails, and its INHERENTLY unconstitutional purposes and provisions.
If anyone thinks this bill is just to be used reasonably by moral people to catch only bad guys, just wait until your kid gets busted with a joint, and jailed as an 'enemy combatant', without trial. Coupled with the Patriot Act, it would be a FELONY (5 years in prison) for him to even discuss the details of his arrest with his priest, his lawyer, or his PARENTS. And the justification could be as thin as 'his marijuana money is funding Al Qaida'. These laws are THAT BAD.
One day, we will pull back from this facade of being a 'nation of laws', and be reborn as a 'nation of liberties'. Either that, or we'll be Nazi Germany. Doubt that to your great peril.
The people who support this outrageous legislation have NO CLUE in how many ways it undermines everything America once stood for. And they never will, until it's too late. It's easier to give in to the fear of 'terrorists' and sign away any right to any sort of privacy than to accept the fact that Bush-Cheney have IN EVERY WAY mirrored Hitler-Goebbels.
@JINXEEDAWG Because you have rights under the constitution smart guy. Nothing trumps that fact. That is why hr6304 is wrong. You may as well go to Arlington National Cemetary and spit on the graves of those who did care about your rights afforded by the Constitution of The United States of America. The government is using fear to manipulate you.
It is the wrong way to fight this problem! I just don't like profiling manipulated information that could be out of context. Targeting voice recognition word flagging and profiling through the use of super computers is not infallible and could misdirect honorable investigators into a wild goose chase as well wasting tax payer money with bureaucratic agency spending! Who has the contracts for this technology ad who are their buddies in legislation making is the real question here!
Fuck Democrats! Fuck Republican's! Fuck the entire left right paradigm! Do people still not see that all of this garbage is just a mind fuck to keep people seperated? All of this is a SCAM! It gives you limited choice. Notice how All Dems are for war, all repub. are for war except Ron Paul. I couldn,t even vote for Ron Paul!!
(3) ORDERS- (A) APPROVAL- If the Court finds that a certification submitted in accordance with subsection...(e) are CONSISTENTwith the requirements of those subsections and with the FOURTH AMENDMENT to the Constitution of the United States, the Court shall enter an order...
@RetSquid Section 201. You're a shill. You are consistently on the side of the wrong-headed. This part is PRE-EMPTIVE of any civil action or criminal action against any telecom provider for KNOWINGLY PERFORMING CRIMINAL ACTS, so long as they are 'just following orders' from the President or AG. It gives far too much latitude to claim that there are built-in protections worth a damn.
@RetSquid This is lawyer-speak, and it doesn't hold water with moral people. What you're saying is that this bill justifies itself, and circular logic is the fascist's best tool.
To pre-exempt anyone from prosecution, to simple common sense, already shows MENS RE. It's an open acknowledgment of the anticipation of being brought to court for illegal acts, and then having the pre-defense of saying it's not criminal because the bill says it's not.
@RetSquid You're not stupid. Why don't you take an actual stand for something besides semantics and cheerleading the veneer of legality? This bill is so CLEARLY the skim of legality's teeth, it's not defensible by any reasonable argument. At least, not in the former America.
@RetSquid If you choose to consistently frame any discussion in that sense, then it's not a discussion. It's a regurgitation. I'd make the case that the very notion of acknowledgment that people WILL have cause (but no recourse) regarding future (formerly illegal) actions denotes the predisposition for this bill to be interpreted as pre-existing criminal intent, with pre-existing criminal amnesty built right in. You can argue that it's legal, but it's clearly unconstitutional.
@RetSquid This is not to be dismissive or evasive, since I haven't read it in a week, but look back over it, and see if that 'final say' may also be retroactive. I admit I could be wrong on that. But if not...
I think the most disturbing part of all is the sidestepping, incrementally with this and other bills, of key provisions of the constitution. In this case...'probable cause', with the new standard being 'reasonable suspicion'. Also bypassing specific target identification.
I will have to find and read the entire Act to get all of the facts about this, but the amendment here gives some pretty good assurancesagainst it's misuse. It is for emergency orders from only a few people and it has at least two levels of review, from the courts and from congress.
@RetSquid I'm actually starting to like you, but this comment rankled me. 'Pretty good assurances against its misuse'? You ask a lot of trust of politicians and telcom companies, not to mention what -I- would call 'pretty good assurances against misuse' would be 'the ability to put people in prison for misusing it'. Do you see that kind of language in it? Quite the opposite.
The bill protects the telcoms from suit but not the AG (I don't think). And it is still overseen by the courts, also with periodic review by Congress.
@RetSquid Well, that reassures me completely. I mean, Congressional review is certainly going to help people a lot. I do enjoy your use of the word 'overseen' by the courts. A little more than cursory examination shows that essentially, the courts are a rubber-stamp. At this point, it would take a monumental effort to get a case to the Supreme Court in order to rule on the basic unconstitutionality of this bill, since that would be a natural consequence of being able to sue the telcom at all.
Well, if the Executive, the Courts and Congress already suck (I don't disagree) does this law even matter? And even if you can't sue telcom, that in itself would be enough to get the case into court to be reviewed.
@RetSquid This law, of course, matters. It's the brazen attempt to endorse what is unconstitutional and what was illegal and immoral, and at its core, un-American. It's not just words on paper. It's the paper that will permit, endorse and protect greater intrusions to our liberties.
People, and not just 'terrorists', will suffer for this law. Innocent people.
There are traitors on both sides... don't think the banking elite would just own politicians on one side of the political spectrum, that's a fools notion. I don't trust democrats or republicans, individually they should have to earn your trust. We have to follow them closely and know if they have honest or mischievous inclinations. Where are all the democrat outcries now while we have a Democratic/Muslim/Communist President who shreds our Constitution before our eyes at an alarming rate?
@DanieljDixon Are you for real?? Can you show even ONE example of the constitution being "shredded" by this president?? No, you cannot. You cna however, show MANY examples of that being done by the previous administration. Do you have anything even resembling truth which would back up your claim that this president is either Muslim or Communist?? No, you cannot.
@1angelsdemon You're serious? What does nationalizing our health care system mean to you? How about our banking system? A redistribution of wealth to be given to the financial elite is a step towards communism. He has given the government authority over our auto industry. He calls for a global monetary system that will trump and diminish our national sovereignty. Suing Arizona & subjecting them to U.N. judgment for exercising their States rights is utterly incomprehensible. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!!
@1angelsdem One that really should have caught your attention was the fact that Under his watch... the Department of Homeland Security sent a memo to all law enforcement agencies Nation wide, that outlined America's new terrorist threats. Radical Islam wasn't listed, nor were the manipulators of Zionism, no mention of radical far lefties or political homosexuals whose agenda is to attack family and tradition mentioned. But returning veterans, and those who exercise their free speech rights were.
@DanieljDixon you said this idiocy 9 months ago, and 13 people are stupid enough to thumbs up you cretinism.
obama is a christian, and you morons were all over him for his alleged membership for 10 years in a 'black nationalist christian church', as you fools named it. how in the hell is he NOW a 'muslim'.
'communist'? only morons use that as a word to fear, given 'communism' has already failed.
hey, got a question for you, simp: how long are you going to make an ass of yourself and not address my unassailable points?
dumbasses on the right were crying about obama being part of a 'black nationalist church' for ten plus years. 'church' is associated with the CHRISTIAN faith; then, all of a sudden, he's a 'muslim'? exlain the memory loss?
oh yeah, cretins like you believe anything draft dodging less moronic people like rush limpballs has to say.
@neoconsnightmare3 You are saying nothing except that you are a fool. I don't listen to Rush Limpdong and I never have. He is a tool of the establishment. Obama is a liar... why would you side with a liar?
@DanieljDixon LOL...you don't get to merely say things and they'll be true. you may WISH and HOPE that i 'look like a fool' based on what i say. but that's, at best, your opinion.
so what?
obama is a liar? prove it. if you can't, you're just talking more unfounded idiocy.
now, what proof do you have obama is a 'liar'? documentable proof.
and who should i 'side with'? why? give objective reasons, not some unfounded opinion.
@neoconsnightmare3 All we have is the short form BC. BHO does not have a longform. If you like your doctor you can keep him We will not raise taxes on anyone who makes less than 250K We will force the top 1% to pay their share of taxes. We will put the healthcare debates on CSPAN We will NOT go to war without congressional approval We will CLOSE Gitmo We will not have death panels Global warming is real We just killed Ben Laden! We don't have pictures, we don't have a body. Catch up man!
@DanieljDixon actually, 'we' have his LONG FORM. where've you been the last couple of weeks? i like my doctor and i will keep him...don't need others' permission for that.
i agree...the top 2% (not just 1%) should pay their fair share of taxes. 'wars' like the one in libya don't bother me, but i could agree with you. close gitmo...agreed. the nation currently doesnt have, or recommened 'death panels'. that's an arizona thing. al queda says bin laden is dead.
@DanieljDixon per bin laden, not only did his boys CONFIRM he was dead, but dna confirmed it and members of congress get to see the video.
but YOU need to 'catch up', since you seemingly didnt know obama gave his 'long form' to the media a couple of weeks ago. the 36% of the population that were dumb enough to believe he wasnt born in the u.s. shrunk to a mere 18%.
sad to say, he's proven he was born in the u.s. that issue DIED, and republicans pretty much agreed it's been answered.
3:35 The 4th amendment a fundamental right of citizens without which society would fall apart... OUTDATED? WTF I bet if you search that guy's house without his consent you'd find child porn haha. Mac Thornberry GO FUCK URSELF
@StratoBlaster420 no, definately not through violence. We don't need to use to use violence. These people are all cowards. As soon as someone shines light on the corruption they are involved in, they cower away. Only feds ever call for violence, trying to radicalize people that have legitimate concerns about out of control government. If enough people wake up, it will be easy to take over the house and senate peacefully through voting. But We should hold the criminals accountable in court.
@busbee85 See the thing is America is so brainwashed into thinking the Government is all-righteous it would take complete reworking of the media outlets, millions in advertising funds, and then if the government hadn't noticed and tried to discredit you, you would still have to be on full alert for a CIA/FBI assassin trying to put a bullet in you, like the kind MLK is all to familiar with. If you don't think they'd kill you, you haven't done enough research into CIA/FBI tactics.
@StratoBlaster420 Oh yeah, I know how they operate, but if we turn violent on the system, It doesn't do anything to help the movement. I would bet there are less of us, and more police and government officials. They actually give creedence to individuals when they kill them. It underlines and highlights their message. I used to be like you, and all I wanted to do is overthrow the corrupt system by any means. But nobody listens to a violent Mob. You'll never succeed that way.
@StratoBlaster420 Ah, but I do understand how the FBI/Cia does things. They go alot farther than just assassinating people. They infiltrate different groups, like the Tea Party or good patriotic militias. They then try to radicalize the people, people who may have not been violent or extreme in any way. They try to incite violence against the government so that group or militias message becomes radicalized and irrelevant and nobody goes along with. So don't be violent, its what they want
Funny how they always go back to how they are protecting us from Terrorist. I'm more endangered by a mugger or gang-banger (a US citizen) then some Taliban running through my neighborhood with an RPG.
tsarrite 2 weeks ago
THE LIES COME FROM EVERY WHERE . ITS A SHAME THAT SO MANY OF OUR POLITITIONS ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID AND BLIND. WE NEED TO START OVER. FIRE EVERY ONE OF THE LIARS THAT CLAIM TO HAVE OUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART. NO ONE THAT CURRENTLY SERVES SHOULD BE RE ELECTED. I PUSH FOR A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN OUR CANDIDATES AND THAT THEY BE BAND FROM RUNNING. WE NEED TO GET THE MONEY OUT. SO WE NEED TO FIRE IT. GET WITH IT PEOPLE.
gargoyle1701 2 weeks ago
@~3:40 ...an outdated law? REALLY?
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were drafted to LIMIT government and keep our PUBLIC SERVANTS in their place- as PUBLIC SERVANTS.
Now the servants want to take over the public. Not on my watch, boys and girls.
Free Speech was and is an excellent idea in that: We the People can readily identify TRAITORS who hold PUBLIC OFFICE and arraign them for a grand jury tribunal, then convict them of TREASON and have them HANGED, Lawfully.
Can I get an AMEN?
BenZeneProject 1 month ago
@BenZeneProject sorry obama just signed NDAA. You no longer have 4th amendment rights
DStrike0083 2 weeks ago
@DStrike0083 we still have the 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th. That's enough to convene grand juries and remove traitors from office.
BenZeneProject 2 weeks ago
@BenZeneProject sorry NDAA says, if the government calls you a "terrorist" you have no rights. No trial, no hearing, no jury, no bill of rights.
But you do have the right to indefinite detention at gitmo.
DStrike0083 2 weeks ago
@DStrike0083 bring them on. I will teach them what their oath means, why the flag on their shoulder is inverse, and the meaning of honor and integrity.
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent overthrow becomes inevitable. Send me to Gitmo and see who I bring back with me.
BenZeneProject 2 weeks ago
@BenZeneProject Thumbs up!
schoolboy4321 2 weeks ago
When/where ever I see articles with titles like "is the bill of rights/constitution/# amendment, etc, dead?". This is not something that should be asked & or debated online, in the media, etc. If it's really come to the point where we are pondering & asking ourselves these types of questions, they should instead be discussed outside the capitol building, by millions of heavily armed civilians. There is no such thing as a "guaranteed" right. Rights are a precious commodity & need defending.
gjc82071 2 months ago
The 4TH amendment died on 09/11/01. Terrorism they just love that word don't they? The shit heads running this country are the only threat to the people of America.
bobafettfan32 3 months ago 2
wow, this is america for you.....where is freedom and privacy now????
not one european country has this law....europe still has the freedom and rights, americans claim they have, but really, they dont....its called the patriot act....
pathetic....and actually sad....u can be searched, videotaped, phones tagged without warrant or court order and have your privacy violated,legally wow...what a nice civilize free country lol
muratshawn 3 months ago
The one Republican nay was Dr. Paul
HammeredMedia 3 months ago
Interesting to see republicans for this bill, and democrats against it at the time. Now, in 2011 republicans run from it and democrats embrace it! There reason was that we are at war, yet we are always at war with no site in end. Now instead of foriegn terrorist being targeted, the door is opened to me and you being potential terrorist. It alawys shows its true intentions in the end, and people continue to fall for the same tricks over an over. Very very sad to see us sold out by these liars!!!!
44truefalse 4 months ago
@44truefalse That's because they are all frauds. Paul, Kucinich, and Sanders are the only consistent voices in either house. Every other member spews the party line which flip flop as the power shifts.
HammeredMedia 3 months ago
@HammeredMedia I agree!The sad thing is that issa is now looking into fast and furious. I say that it is sad , not because it isn't the biggest scam pulled on the 2nd amendmant, but because i have no faith in him following it into the rabbit hole! Each side wars with each other over regulations, not because of principle, but over who is in charge of the regulation! If you look into the ruby ridge, or waco hearings you will see the exact game play! They will say it is wrong yet rule otherwise.
44truefalse 3 months ago
what i dont get is this - from 1991 that i'm aware of, the "protocol", "predators" and "carnivor" programs were in full swing and didnt care about legal issues, they just did what they wanted and watched who they wanted anyways and used dirty cops/judges for the warrants. why try to legalize it? theyr doing it anyways long before the patriot act or any other bill like this.
PrimeTargetSecurity 5 months ago
Science is the only answer to a solution if people want one. Half the people in washington dont know that law is an ideology' there is no mortal basis unless there is an agreement; Make no omission' but crap what does the federal gov education really teach about princples?
DrFruedienslip 5 months ago
our country and our sovereign citizenship is being taken from us because we do not know our rights..if we dont know our rights..we have no rights..if we do not defend out rights in a timely manner when they are violated then we loose the right to fight that usurpation of our rights...stop watching footbal and p-laying grabass people!!! start learning your constitution and FIGHT DAMN IT!!!
dasenuff 5 months ago
3.if their powers are not suspended ( &they wouldnt be) then the bill of rights cant be suspended! what a bunch of traitors!!!! by u s code and am jur prud they are guilty of treason!!!
dasenuff 5 months ago
2. NOT EVEN A WAR can suspend the peoples rights!!!! no declaratiopn of 'marshal law' no act of war..NOTHING can suspend the sovereign rights of the people. does it make sense to suspend the alleged 'authority ' of the ones running the country i.e the pres/congress..etc if there is an act of war or or war on teror or war on whatever?
dasenuff 5 months ago
it matters not if they passed this bill....the bill of rights (and the constitution before) says clearly that no law can be written(much less passed) that denies any rights of the people. PERIOD...if it does ..it is NULL AND VOID!!!!! and if you/we are following the constitution,then we have no willfull intent to violate ANY law when we follow that bill of RIGHTS! however..i would say that the gov.elected officials who SWORE AN OATH OF OFFICE to UPHOLD the constitution...are guilty of TREASON!
dasenuff 5 months ago 2
@dasenuff BLESS ur' HEART!! AGREED! Brightest Blessings~
cyniraholt 2 months ago
The more that goes on the more I believe those conspiracy theorist that 9/11 was pulled off by our Govt. just to tighten the grips on their own citizens.
Dojoe54 5 months ago
Shit, most people don't even know what their congress men and women are doing!. Wake the fuc up Everything is not OK.. we are becoming Nazi Germany. they will kill us before we even have a chance. this shit makes me sic
innHD 5 months ago
I dare.....
420darklotus 5 months ago
Sheila Jackson, although usually a low-level, foul mouthed "sistah" type, actually seems to see something in our Constitution that she likes. Funny thing is, she's likely thinking about the drug thugs back home and not wanting them to get busted, but as long as she's flapp'n her gums in favor of freedom, well, good for her!
tuts40 6 months ago
Fascism, simple as that. This is based on pure paranoia, understandable to a certain extent but this is just retarded, listen to the guys talking about how good it is, It's just hollow metaphors.
pmckeown40 6 months ago
Im a terrorist! SURVEY ME before I bomb congress.
lawharrison 6 months ago
Terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit
sfholton 6 months ago
Evil bastards.
Shockofsanta 6 months ago
Why are republicans so evil?
mikedav9O 7 months ago
I'm sorry but I can't help but laugh at the sound bite "you can be survailed for 60 days" replayed throughout many times... Its certainly not a funny thing that they are currently spying on us, it just made me laugh to hear that repated sound bite.
joewalker77 7 months ago
When all is said and done.....and karma reaps what it sows.....and judgement has passed......These statesmen will exerpeince a hell so unreal....and so fair to their actions
Illgothe2150wu 7 months ago
TERRORISM MY FUCKING ASS!!!
jonasidas 8 months ago
Indiana barne vs indiana states "We hold that there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers." The scotus is whittling away at the 4th amendment and it isnt right. Everyone knows the war on drugs is just throwing money away anyways, but to give the opportunity to police to knock on your dorr "assume" you are guilty and bust in because they thought you were doing somthing destroys the 4th. What ever happend to home sovriegnty? the gestapo loved these rights too.
TheStrazy 8 months ago
@TheStrazy they SMELLED the marijuana coming from the door. they HEARD the folks trying to destroy the evidence and scuttling around in the apartment.
frankly, i could care less if someone is doing drugs, as long as they're only hurting themselves.
BUT those drugs are illegal, and they KNEW the drugs were illegal. they shouldnt have had them.
as such, the police coming in and inspecting the place seems 'reasonable' to me.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy in 'barnes', i copied what was said by the court.
it was because of the 911 call, his yelling at the police outside the apartment, and his wife saying 'let them in', PLUS his assaulting an officer that allowed the police to go into the apartment.
that's not 'whittling away' anyone's rights. he should have:
not thrown the phone;
thrown other things;
made his wife call 911;
yelled at the police;
blocked them when the wife said let them in;
assaulted the officer.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
But now obama is in office its "ok" to shred the 4 th amendment.
TheStrazy 8 months ago in playlist 4th amendment doublespeak
@TheStrazy really? go to 'the 4th amendment is dead' video. the guy is whining about a health inspector on his property...in 2007. obama wasn't president THEN, was he.
during the 'dunn' case, also 1987, the court ruled what is/is not covered by the 4th. bush was president.
or go to the 'hester' case (also before the supreme court). it was 1924, which said 'open fields aren't covered by the 4th' and said only 'curtilage' is. that was 37 years BEFORE OBAMA WAS BORN.
don't blame him.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy oh yeah, look at when this video was uploaded:
"Jun 21, 2008"
obama wasnt elected until NOVEMBER of 2008, and didn't take office until JANUARY of 2009.
if you're going to talk idiotic and baseless bullshit, at least get your timelines right.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Please looks at "barnes vs indiana" may 12 2011 and SCOTUS may 16 2011 kentucky ruling. It wasnt right then and its not alright now but then people actually paid attention to what bush and the government was doing, unlike today where they are shredding the 4th and no one is saying a word.
TheStrazy 8 months ago
@TheStrazy ahh, i looked up 'barnes' and here's what the indiana supreme court said:
the police were responding to a 911 call placed by mr. barnes' wife. he was throwing the main phone against the wall to keep her from calling her sister. she used her cell phone to call 911 and said he was throwing things around. it was a 'domestic dispute'.
he walked out, ran into a police officer, they told him they were responding to the 911 all, he said he was leaving, the wife threw a bag at him.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy barnes, cont:
he followed her back to their apartment, the police, STILL RESPONDING TO THE 911 call and now his yelling at them, went there.
when he walked into his door, he blocked the police from entering. his wife didnt direcly invite the police in, but she said 'stop this' and 'let them in' (invitation of one of the home owners?).
when a policeman tried to enter, barnes three him against a wall (misdemeanor). the two policement choke held him and tasered him.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy the supreme court of indiana said:
"Here, the trial court‘s failure to give the proffered jury instruction was not error. Because we decline to recognize the right to reasonably resist an unlawful police entry, we need not decide the legality of the officers‘ entry into Barnes‘s apartment. We note, however, that the officers were investigating a ―domestic violence in progress‖ in response to a 911 call.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy barnes cont.
"A 911 call generally details emergency or exigent circumstances requiring swift police action. In these cases, the officers are responding to rapidly changing or escalating events, and their initial response is often based on limited information. "
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy barnes cont:
"The officers cannot properly assess the complaint and the dangers to those threatened without some limited access to the involved parties. It is unrealistic to expect officers to wait for threats to escalate and for violence to become imminent before intervening. Here, the officers acted reasonably under the totality of the circumstances."
so, they indiana supreme court didnt say police could illegally enter your home and you can't resist.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy people didnt pay attention to what bush was doing...they all said 'yeah, the patriot act is good', because the figured they'd only be going after 'others' (muslims in this case).
most folks in the u.s. didnt whine when COINTELPRO was going on in the 1960s-1970s...but then again, they were only going after blacks and anti-war people, so i guess that made it okay.
you can't have it both ways. obama aint taking your rights, thats why the assault weapons ban wasnt resigned.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy about the SCOTUS and kentucky:
"Police do not need a search warrant if, after knocking on a closed door and announcing their presence, they discern that evidence of a crime is being destroyed on the other side, the US Supreme Court ruled Monday."
this is a tricky situation, but ultimately, that's life when you commit drug crimes.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy kentucky cont:
"Police were in pursuit of an individual who had just purchased crack cocaine during an undercover sting operation. Uniformed police officers followed the suspect into an apartment complex, but did not see which of two apartments he entered – the door on the right or the door on the left.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy kentucky cont:
"Strong odor of marijuana
As they approached, police noticed a strong odor of marijuana coming from under the door on the left. They assumed the suspect was hiding in that apartment. (In fact, he had entered the door on the right.)
Police knocked on the door on the left, announcing their presence. When no one answered, they pounded on the door. After hearing noises suggesting evidence was being destroyed, the police kicked the door open."
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy Once inside the apartment, they noticed marijuana and powder cocaine in open view. A subsequent search revealed crack cocaine, cash, and drug paraphernalia.
Mr. King was convicted of drug trafficking and sentenced to 11 years in prison. On appeal, his lawyer argued that the police violated King’s Fourth Amendment rights by failing to obtain a search warrant before entering the apartment."
so, folks had weed and crack on a table, and tried to destroy the evidence.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 The rights are erodeing as evidence by this video, The government is slowly trying to do away with them. Obama is not totally at fault i agree, what my staement meant was, Bush passed the patriot act(treason in my book) and everyone screamed. Now the patriot act is still in force and the amendments are under fire with states and the SCOTUS. and no one is saying anything.
TheStrazy 8 months ago
@TheStrazy so having drugs in the apartment, and after the police banged on the door, they try to destroy the evidence.
that's a tough one, no doubt.
but then, they shouldn't have had powder cocaine and weed and doing these illegal drugs in the first place.
sorry, i don't feel sorry for them even though i have some questions about how things went down.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 As for these folks they need locked up i agree, but to errode the 4th amendment for everyone just opens the door for the next admin to bust in your house warrentless, arrest you for domestic terrorism, Indefinatly detain you for just disagreeing with the administration. The road to a dictatorship is a slow one. We fought for these rights in the revolution and they need to keep them as a check on the government no matter who is in charge. That is the way the syatem is set up .
TheStrazy 8 months ago
@TheStrazy as far as the 'domestic terrorism', i mean, the folks who get locked up do a lot of crazy things.
do i like the 'indefinite lock up' crap? nope. but those folks locked up down there aint your typical citizen.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Think of the future abuses this opens up. The need for warrants led to the compiling of evidence against the people, With these laws flushing a toilet or running the sink can be construed to be "destroying of evidence" It is not the point of these two cases per say but the change in those rights opens up the door for abuses in future incounters. When future admins determine me or you are bad, the rules will be in place to arrest you with no evidence to the contrary.
TheStrazy 8 months ago
@TheStrazy thing is, look at the 4th. it doesnt say warrants are needed for ALL searches. it protects 'persons, houses, papers and effects' from 'unreasonable searches'.
in the case of the yelling husband, one could argue that the 911 call (domestic dispute) made by his wife, plus his wife saying 'let them in', plus his yelling at the police (who told him to stop yelling or he could be arrested for disturbance of the peace) all allowed the police to enter his home 'reasonably'.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Why keep creating laws and easier ways of getting people when the prison system is streched to its limits because people want to do non harmful things to themselves? Im not a big believer in darwinism (in its truest form dont get me wrong he was right) but wouldnt it be best to let some people be seperated from the herd?
Why do i need the government invading my home to dictate what my personal behavior is like behind close doors? There are some stupid laws also.
TheStrazy 8 months ago
@TheStrazy hey, i've said that i could care less if folks do drugs as long as they dont hurt others. get rid of the laws about them.
BUT, as long as the laws are on the books, simply DON'T DO THE DRUGS, DON'T DISTRIBUTE and DON'T WAREHOUSE THEM.
in his case, he was DISTRIBUTING, which takes it away from mere personal use.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@TheStrazy as the constitution was written way back in 1787, if one is to say 'think of future abuses', then perhaps thats what they were doing back 230 years ago.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 I agree thats exactly what they were doing and to allow any court to expand the rights of the government to encroach apon those rights just opens the door for more encraochment in the future, Hence the erodeing of the 4th amendment. Like i said though people are trying to defend the governments actions by say "it wasnt me" and "they will never come for me" but abuses of power are on the horizon with the weakening of our 230 year old laws.
TheStrazy 8 months ago
@TheStrazy if you think they were plotting back in 1787 to expand the rights on the populace, then what you're saying is the constitution is a sham.
so are you saying ELIMINATE the judicial system?
whatever you're saying, WHAT IS / ARE the SOLUTION(S)?
complaining ain't gonna cut it. what can we do?
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 The solutions are simple vote in members who will vote in laws prohibiting lobbyist and giant conglomerates, That cater to the infrastructure of the military complex, from buying votes, which lead to wholesale overstepping of the constitution to keep up the prison population for personal gain. The US has more people incarcerated than the rest of the world combined but people are too dumb to realize it and keep voteing the status quo.
TheStrazy 8 months ago
After obamas election it seems like the political sides have flipped.
panzerkilla 9 months ago
@ 9:27
I'm guessing (highly) that the 1 nay vote for the republican was Ron Paul?
kantoriX1 10 months ago
@kantoriX1
hmm, quick research indicates the one nay vote was from Timothy Johnson good job.
Ten other republicans did not vote that includes Ron Paul, assumption is made he was probably too disgusted to vote at all.
kantoriX1 10 months ago
the only terrorists are these gov muthafuckers!!
guanajuato1987 10 months ago
the new world order has to be stopped.6 billion people on earth.It takes only one to make a difference and when our goverment says terrorist i think of my favorite terrorist Benjamin Franklin.Can you make a difference?Are you that 1?
condemned13 10 months ago
the new world order has to be stopped.6 billion people on earth.It takes only one to make a difference and when our goverment says terrorist i think of my favorite terrorist Benjamin Franklin.
condemned13 10 months ago
wow.....what a free country...any american who says today we are a free country,is a dumb fuck....now every European country has more freedom and more rights than we do.....wow...now we used to be a free country....now we are controlled by our own government lol, something socialized Europe doesnt even have....
what a shame
muratshawn 10 months ago
Its kinda funny that the dumbie craps are against this bill on this video but which side will they be on when Obama starts his shit?yes they will be sucking his cock just like all the other morons!
1388dimevader 11 months ago
@1388dimevader so, sucking bush's/cheney's cock makes more sense? let's just ask the 4500 dead americans in his two wasted wars if they willingly sucked cheney's dick.
what...quiet are you? you were all for their 8 years of taking a surplus and putting us in a deficit. or when cheney moaned 'ronald reagan taught us deficits mean nothing'.
you know jack about politics, economics or common sense.
neoconsnightmare3 9 months ago
The shame is that if they aren't just using words like "terrorism" and "dangerous"to manipulate us, then they are stupid....we are either being led by brilliant mastermind fiends, or the stupidest pieces of crap that the human race could drag up into power. -_- Bravo those in power fighting it, UNLESS they are doing it for show. By now even that last bit would not surprise me.
Chaosprincess01 11 months ago
Why dont they spend all this time and money and go after all the rag head fucks that attacked us and make us all safer. Taking my guns, invading my property, censoring my speech, and tapping my phones does not make any of us safer!
BigDirtyBasterd 11 months ago
terrorism this is the word they will use to strip the rights of the people i would rather live with the chance of terrorism that have my rights taken away. this isnt the same country i grew up in
keverc 11 months ago
"They prefer operating under an outdated law..." Laws that protect personal liberties never gets outdated, its fundamental.
pussiestroker 11 months ago
This is a joke, they do this crap anyway! The Constitution is shredded and if you stand up for it you are called a violent teabagger! Watch how Chris Matthews will NOT letting the Oathkeepers guy talk ( search chris matthews and oathkeepers) Boehener was the main promotor of this crap. He is speaker of the house now. God help us! We need to hang all of those TRAITORS!
rev66blessu 11 months ago
Isn't it funny how the Republicans are all about the Constitution nowadays, instead of wanting to overturn our most fundamental principles of government, like they were two years ago? I mean, it's almost like they're making decisions based on self-interest and a desire for power, instead of ones that are for the good of the American people.
RincewindsHat66 11 months ago
GO SHEILA JACKSON LEE!
tlages 1 year ago 3
OH MY GOD PLEASE PROTECT ME GOVT.
BUT WHO IS GOING TO PROTECT ME FROM THE GOVT.?
jasonfulton 1 year ago
Ridiculus. Cue the Circus Music and clowns.
Great work Master...
nazaxprime 1 year ago
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scary .... now you know who is the traitor.. >>>> REPUBLICAN ......
IF YOU STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WATCH THESE VIDEO
superwhiz88 1 year ago
1:43 chancellor palpatine anyone?
doctorcrapable 1 year ago 2
One of the problems with the House is that Representatives can give their opinions or plead their cases but most of the time there's no one there to listen to them. Then they come in to vote, after not reading the bills or hearing any arguments against them.
NoGuff 1 year ago
I'm shocked to see Shelia Jackson doing the right thing. One thump up for her.
Zalahblue 1 year ago 7
Come to Canada!
-woot- we own.
UrSoMeanBoss 1 year ago
@UrSoMeanBoss yeah, at least our dictator isn't a warmonger eh?
pr0pr0 1 year ago
I believe this is wrong, but don't bring out the whole freedom and all men are born equal bullshit. This nation was built with slaves. Quit being hypocrites.
s227h 1 year ago
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Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.
(The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America."
(The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit) The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people."
- Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919.
Revelation 2:9,,3:9
MsMihailescu 1 year ago
if the founder fathers were alive to hear that bullshit after all they did to make this country they would be kicking some fucking teeth in. piece of shit people in DC. freedom or GTFO greedy fucksticks
420fury 1 year ago 16
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PEOPLE SHOULD NOT FEAR THEIR GOVERNMENT...GOVERNMENT SHOULD FEAR ITS PEOPLE!!!!!!
420fury 1 year ago
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
MCSkatee 1 year ago
Anybody want to hear the most annoying sound in the world?
"You can be servailed for 60 days."
God, her voice is annoying.
alexdlocoa 1 year ago
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
Relevant Star Wars quote.
fjl2x2 1 year ago
Keep up crap like this and the People will rise up against the government, not a bunch of cave-dwelling terrorists somewhere who supposedly "hate us for our freedoms" and not because we try and force our way of life on them, as well as build bases on their land.
shounenbat510 1 year ago
abusing power FTW >:l way to be a douche bag government
Nessorioch123 1 year ago
The greatest form of terrorism always comes from the state & its violations on individual rights!
swu880 1 year ago
@swu880 EXACTLY!!!...The Corrupted Elect ("SERVANTS") opt to take Privilege and Power from the Citizen ("MASTER") in attempt to address the criminal...since the criminal does not observe the LAW...The SERVANT only accomplish angering the MASTER by taking ONLY his/her FREEDOMS
AudiRS4Life 8 months ago 2
"Americas at war" yea so? what else is new.
ORACLE063 1 year ago
@ORACLE063 We still haven't actually declared war... We've just been policing for almost a decade.
fjl2x2 1 year ago
A Dangerous world? A Muslim with a bomb strapped to his waist?? hahahahahahahaah .... Try the Soviet Tsar Bomb from the cold war or Try living in Troy when the greeks attacked... those were scary times.
Life is dangerous... watch a squirrel while its eating... the fucker is scared shitless.
LIFE OWES U NOTHING. The only thing to fear here is the power junkies looking for more fix
ORACLE063 1 year ago
what an FN Nightmare...
AudiRS4Life 1 year ago
Weve always lived in a "dangerous" world.. And TERRORISM only exists in the so called "Leaders of America"
NicoLico17 1 year ago 4
Weve always lived in a "dangerous" world..
NicoLico17 1 year ago 3
god help us all
rodmanbull 1 year ago
i love how this is ass backwards now.
RebelliousPatriot 1 year ago
Are people really this fucking stupid? It's the GOVERNMENT that is the terrorists. Not some towel heads from the middle east. Fuck the US. I'm so sick of this bullshit
MrMaryJanes 1 year ago
United States does not exist anymore
jrhd00d84 1 year ago 5
@jrhd00d84 it never existed =( the banking elite controlled this country ever since 1776
MrsIzaguirre1 1 year ago
if the government wanted to wipe their ass, then why didn't they just go out and buy a nice roll of charmin ultra soft toilet paper, instead of using the ruff, old, one ply, bill of rights?
mmcclain88 1 year ago
At 1:27, we see the entire support for this bill shredded. We lacked the 'protection' of this bill since midnight Feb 1st until the bill passed. And guess what...we did just fine without it. Thank you for making the case of, at the VERY least, the lack of necessity of this bill, especially with all the sinister baggage it entails, and its INHERENTLY unconstitutional purposes and provisions.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
If anyone thinks this bill is just to be used reasonably by moral people to catch only bad guys, just wait until your kid gets busted with a joint, and jailed as an 'enemy combatant', without trial. Coupled with the Patriot Act, it would be a FELONY (5 years in prison) for him to even discuss the details of his arrest with his priest, his lawyer, or his PARENTS. And the justification could be as thin as 'his marijuana money is funding Al Qaida'. These laws are THAT BAD.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
One day, we will pull back from this facade of being a 'nation of laws', and be reborn as a 'nation of liberties'. Either that, or we'll be Nazi Germany. Doubt that to your great peril.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
The people who support this outrageous legislation have NO CLUE in how many ways it undermines everything America once stood for. And they never will, until it's too late. It's easier to give in to the fear of 'terrorists' and sign away any right to any sort of privacy than to accept the fact that Bush-Cheney have IN EVERY WAY mirrored Hitler-Goebbels.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
129 patriots 293 fear mongering fascists.
airbornepatriot1 1 year ago
this is like watching a snuff film...
Just another nail in the coffin.
fuzzwahmrp 1 year ago
WE ARE FUCKED WITH THESE BASTARDS IN CONGRESS!
fromthe209 1 year ago
If you haven't done anything wrong WHO CARES!!!
It protects the innocent.How dumb are they!
JINXEEDAWG 1 year ago
@JINXEEDAWG thats like people in nazi germany saying, well if you're not a jew then who cares?
fuzzwahmrp 1 year ago
@JINXEEDAWG Because you have rights under the constitution smart guy. Nothing trumps that fact. That is why hr6304 is wrong. You may as well go to Arlington National Cemetary and spit on the graves of those who did care about your rights afforded by the Constitution of The United States of America. The government is using fear to manipulate you.
airbornepatriot1 1 year ago
Please post a list of the 293 Representatives to never vote for again.
foolm2 1 year ago
welcome to the NWO and the end of the people's rights.
woddensoapbox 1 year ago
It is the wrong way to fight this problem! I just don't like profiling manipulated information that could be out of context. Targeting voice recognition word flagging and profiling through the use of super computers is not infallible and could misdirect honorable investigators into a wild goose chase as well wasting tax payer money with bureaucratic agency spending! Who has the contracts for this technology ad who are their buddies in legislation making is the real question here!
13thLabyrinth 1 year ago
I do not recognize this country anymore.
lycanthropy2010 1 year ago 15
Fuck Democrats! Fuck Republican's! Fuck the entire left right paradigm! Do people still not see that all of this garbage is just a mind fuck to keep people seperated? All of this is a SCAM! It gives you limited choice. Notice how All Dems are for war, all repub. are for war except Ron Paul. I couldn,t even vote for Ron Paul!!
lamiac2411 1 year ago
(3) ORDERS- (A) APPROVAL- If the Court finds that a certification submitted in accordance with subsection...(e) are CONSISTENTwith the requirements of those subsections and with the FOURTH AMENDMENT to the Constitution of the United States, the Court shall enter an order...
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid Section 201. You're a shill. You are consistently on the side of the wrong-headed. This part is PRE-EMPTIVE of any civil action or criminal action against any telecom provider for KNOWINGLY PERFORMING CRIMINAL ACTS, so long as they are 'just following orders' from the President or AG. It gives far too much latitude to claim that there are built-in protections worth a damn.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
Nice try, but there would be no criminal act if they are ordered to do it. And it would be a court that orders it, after it has been reviewed.
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid This is lawyer-speak, and it doesn't hold water with moral people. What you're saying is that this bill justifies itself, and circular logic is the fascist's best tool.
To pre-exempt anyone from prosecution, to simple common sense, already shows MENS RE. It's an open acknowledgment of the anticipation of being brought to court for illegal acts, and then having the pre-defense of saying it's not criminal because the bill says it's not.
Writing blank checks like this is dangerous.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
I never said it was "right" or "safe".
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid You're not stupid. Why don't you take an actual stand for something besides semantics and cheerleading the veneer of legality? This bill is so CLEARLY the skim of legality's teeth, it's not defensible by any reasonable argument. At least, not in the former America.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
I thought the argument was "legal or not legal"?
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid If you choose to consistently frame any discussion in that sense, then it's not a discussion. It's a regurgitation. I'd make the case that the very notion of acknowledgment that people WILL have cause (but no recourse) regarding future (formerly illegal) actions denotes the predisposition for this bill to be interpreted as pre-existing criminal intent, with pre-existing criminal amnesty built right in. You can argue that it's legal, but it's clearly unconstitutional.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
If I read it right, the courts have the final say on whether or not 'spying' takes place.
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid This is not to be dismissive or evasive, since I haven't read it in a week, but look back over it, and see if that 'final say' may also be retroactive. I admit I could be wrong on that. But if not...
I think the most disturbing part of all is the sidestepping, incrementally with this and other bills, of key provisions of the constitution. In this case...'probable cause', with the new standard being 'reasonable suspicion'. Also bypassing specific target identification.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
I will have to find and read the entire Act to get all of the facts about this, but the amendment here gives some pretty good assurancesagainst it's misuse. It is for emergency orders from only a few people and it has at least two levels of review, from the courts and from congress.
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid I'm actually starting to like you, but this comment rankled me. 'Pretty good assurances against its misuse'? You ask a lot of trust of politicians and telcom companies, not to mention what -I- would call 'pretty good assurances against misuse' would be 'the ability to put people in prison for misusing it'. Do you see that kind of language in it? Quite the opposite.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
The bill protects the telcoms from suit but not the AG (I don't think). And it is still overseen by the courts, also with periodic review by Congress.
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid Well, that reassures me completely. I mean, Congressional review is certainly going to help people a lot. I do enjoy your use of the word 'overseen' by the courts. A little more than cursory examination shows that essentially, the courts are a rubber-stamp. At this point, it would take a monumental effort to get a case to the Supreme Court in order to rule on the basic unconstitutionality of this bill, since that would be a natural consequence of being able to sue the telcom at all.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
Well, if the Executive, the Courts and Congress already suck (I don't disagree) does this law even matter? And even if you can't sue telcom, that in itself would be enough to get the case into court to be reviewed.
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid This law, of course, matters. It's the brazen attempt to endorse what is unconstitutional and what was illegal and immoral, and at its core, un-American. It's not just words on paper. It's the paper that will permit, endorse and protect greater intrusions to our liberties.
People, and not just 'terrorists', will suffer for this law. Innocent people.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@OneVoiceMore
My point is that if someone wants to do this secretly, the law wound not matter either way.
RetSquid 1 year ago
@RetSquid I have a feeling this law simply legitimizes practices long underway anyway, so we're in agreement.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
George W. Bush was a neo-con (read Jewish zionist) stooge.
shortist2003 1 year ago
@shortist2003 really? no shit his grandfather was in the hitler youth, what'd you expect?
gninja92 1 year ago
@gninja92 ...HIS GRANDAD WAS A BANKER CAUGHT FUNDING HITLER DURING WW II........LOL.....SOUNDS GOOD THOUGH!!!
treon123456 1 year ago
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There are traitors on both sides... don't think the banking elite would just own politicians on one side of the political spectrum, that's a fools notion. I don't trust democrats or republicans, individually they should have to earn your trust. We have to follow them closely and know if they have honest or mischievous inclinations. Where are all the democrat outcries now while we have a Democratic/Muslim/Communist President who shreds our Constitution before our eyes at an alarming rate?
DanieljDixon 1 year ago 13
@DanieljDixon Are you for real?? Can you show even ONE example of the constitution being "shredded" by this president?? No, you cannot. You cna however, show MANY examples of that being done by the previous administration. Do you have anything even resembling truth which would back up your claim that this president is either Muslim or Communist?? No, you cannot.
1angelsdemon 1 year ago
@1angelsdemon You're serious? What does nationalizing our health care system mean to you? How about our banking system? A redistribution of wealth to be given to the financial elite is a step towards communism. He has given the government authority over our auto industry. He calls for a global monetary system that will trump and diminish our national sovereignty. Suing Arizona & subjecting them to U.N. judgment for exercising their States rights is utterly incomprehensible. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!!
DanieljDixon 1 year ago
@1angelsdem One that really should have caught your attention was the fact that Under his watch... the Department of Homeland Security sent a memo to all law enforcement agencies Nation wide, that outlined America's new terrorist threats. Radical Islam wasn't listed, nor were the manipulators of Zionism, no mention of radical far lefties or political homosexuals whose agenda is to attack family and tradition mentioned. But returning veterans, and those who exercise their free speech rights were.
DanieljDixon 1 year ago
@DanieljDixon go fcuk yourself .. dirt back .. even under these circumstance you still tring to protect your sugar daddy
superwhiz88 1 year ago
@DanieljDixon Are you that stupid..... you really need to ck in to hospital
superwhiz88 1 year ago
@DanieljDixon you said this idiocy 9 months ago, and 13 people are stupid enough to thumbs up you cretinism.
obama is a christian, and you morons were all over him for his alleged membership for 10 years in a 'black nationalist christian church', as you fools named it. how in the hell is he NOW a 'muslim'.
'communist'? only morons use that as a word to fear, given 'communism' has already failed.
grow the hell up, you buffoon
neoconsnightmare3 9 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 Boy you are just dripping in stupidity. If security guards were like you, I would rob banks.
DanieljDixon 9 months ago
@DanieljDixon little girl, that was a non statement to divert from your stupidity. you're too stupid to even find a bank, much less rob one.
have a nice day, simpett.
neoconsnightmare3 9 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 You are so cunning and clever with words.
DanieljDixon 9 months ago
@DanieljDixon yes...yes i am?
hey, got a question for you, simp: how long are you going to make an ass of yourself and not address my unassailable points?
dumbasses on the right were crying about obama being part of a 'black nationalist church' for ten plus years. 'church' is associated with the CHRISTIAN faith; then, all of a sudden, he's a 'muslim'? exlain the memory loss?
oh yeah, cretins like you believe anything draft dodging less moronic people like rush limpballs has to say.
neoconsnightmare3 9 months ago
@neoconsnightmare3 You are saying nothing except that you are a fool. I don't listen to Rush Limpdong and I never have. He is a tool of the establishment. Obama is a liar... why would you side with a liar?
DanieljDixon 8 months ago
@DanieljDixon LOL...you don't get to merely say things and they'll be true. you may WISH and HOPE that i 'look like a fool' based on what i say. but that's, at best, your opinion.
so what?
obama is a liar? prove it. if you can't, you're just talking more unfounded idiocy.
now, what proof do you have obama is a 'liar'? documentable proof.
and who should i 'side with'? why? give objective reasons, not some unfounded opinion.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
DanieljDixon 8 months ago
@DanieljDixon actually, 'we' have his LONG FORM. where've you been the last couple of weeks? i like my doctor and i will keep him...don't need others' permission for that.
i agree...the top 2% (not just 1%) should pay their fair share of taxes. 'wars' like the one in libya don't bother me, but i could agree with you. close gitmo...agreed. the nation currently doesnt have, or recommened 'death panels'. that's an arizona thing. al queda says bin laden is dead.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
@DanieljDixon per bin laden, not only did his boys CONFIRM he was dead, but dna confirmed it and members of congress get to see the video.
but YOU need to 'catch up', since you seemingly didnt know obama gave his 'long form' to the media a couple of weeks ago. the 36% of the population that were dumb enough to believe he wasnt born in the u.s. shrunk to a mere 18%.
sad to say, he's proven he was born in the u.s. that issue DIED, and republicans pretty much agreed it's been answered.
neoconsnightmare3 8 months ago
3:35 The 4th amendment a fundamental right of citizens without which society would fall apart... OUTDATED? WTF I bet if you search that guy's house without his consent you'd find child porn haha. Mac Thornberry GO FUCK URSELF
Mooseboy240 1 year ago
Republicans are lying and the Democratic are trying to worn us.
geraldlee33 1 year ago
Ah yes the scary men with long beards and turbans.
what a croc, all the ones supporting this bill repubs and dems are new world order scum. They are all traitors to America and its people
busbee85 1 year ago
@busbee85 Traitors that need to be dealt with through violent revolution.
StratoBlaster420 1 year ago
@StratoBlaster420 no, definately not through violence. We don't need to use to use violence. These people are all cowards. As soon as someone shines light on the corruption they are involved in, they cower away. Only feds ever call for violence, trying to radicalize people that have legitimate concerns about out of control government. If enough people wake up, it will be easy to take over the house and senate peacefully through voting. But We should hold the criminals accountable in court.
busbee85 1 year ago
@busbee85 See the thing is America is so brainwashed into thinking the Government is all-righteous it would take complete reworking of the media outlets, millions in advertising funds, and then if the government hadn't noticed and tried to discredit you, you would still have to be on full alert for a CIA/FBI assassin trying to put a bullet in you, like the kind MLK is all to familiar with. If you don't think they'd kill you, you haven't done enough research into CIA/FBI tactics.
StratoBlaster420 1 year ago
@StratoBlaster420 Oh yeah, I know how they operate, but if we turn violent on the system, It doesn't do anything to help the movement. I would bet there are less of us, and more police and government officials. They actually give creedence to individuals when they kill them. It underlines and highlights their message. I used to be like you, and all I wanted to do is overthrow the corrupt system by any means. But nobody listens to a violent Mob. You'll never succeed that way.
busbee85 1 year ago
@StratoBlaster420 Ah, but I do understand how the FBI/Cia does things. They go alot farther than just assassinating people. They infiltrate different groups, like the Tea Party or good patriotic militias. They then try to radicalize the people, people who may have not been violent or extreme in any way. They try to incite violence against the government so that group or militias message becomes radicalized and irrelevant and nobody goes along with. So don't be violent, its what they want
busbee85 1 year ago