how can a person, organism, an individual ever realize its true potential without conditions that make it struggle...hasnt evolution been exactly that?...it seems aimless given the random "bad" conditions that present life with pain, suffering, death etc.. but there is a common generality underneath...self preservation and power...this is tricky when moving from biological to economic exploitation b/c in our case it almost seems denaturalized as in the weakest and mediocre rule???
@f1ghtclub2k3 to use your own critique dont think dualistically ☺ - its not either/or, but both/and. The dualistic extremes are behind the 20th century nightmare.
Cooperate for what? survival of course! Animal bands (including humans organise socially in order to maximise the chance of survival of the tribes genes
Individualism is still good - but its not everything in nature.
was actually a bit closer in realizing the relatively short amount of time change can occur within generations and especially characteristic traits...neuroscience keeps discarding our old ideas of what is totally derived by fanatic readings of Darwin...and I think the neodarwinian notions of harming others to pursue self interest lies in the human need to feel unique and different and to join the world in what is easy to do...are you proposing a stagnant equality where struggle does not exist...
Is not nature precisely that exploitation we so abhor in the human race...I can see the difference in biological exploitation and economic I dont encourage the latter but collective cooperative towards what?...is their a goal for mankind yet? I dont understand your dogma of human nature comment...isnt that a contradiction of concepts...and can we really say there is such a concrete nature of the human being? social darwinism is the product of putting to much emphasis on Darwins account...Lamark
@f1ghtclub2k3 The early explanations of evolutions mechanism were influenced by Hobbes phrase nature red in tooth & claw. Spencer coined the phrase survival of the fittest before Darwin. Nature has been portrayed as overly individualistc & brutal allowing a model of human nature where selfish exploitation was central - not helped by the term selfish gene. Current thinking recognises the centrality of cooperation within species as a driver for group survival not al dog-eat-dog. cont
Many recognise that natural humans are more often motivated by mutual support than cut-throatism despite the way it has been sanctifed throughout the 20th century.
Hopefully this pole of the dualism will be moderated in future social sciences &biology, eg market economists wont be able to rely on Darwin to justify their flawed model of man (dogma) underlying their economics. Thinking christianitys difficulty with evolution is fueled by its traditional rubbishing of altruism in human nature
m/b I miss understood...I am a young intellectual sometimes I jump the gun so to speak....let me watch it again...annnd yes I took a part out of the whole and attacked it...my mistake my fault...this is something I must watch in myself...m/b my vice in wanting to be heard or significant?...Thank you for the video it was actually insightful...I can relate to the last part especially about the gifts of life embedded in an awareness of death...good day.
it's just unfathomable, just inconceivable how immediate existence is, I cannot even start to express the thought of it, the unbearably direct presence of effervescence, the moment, it's so full, replete and frighteningly ripe, yet never recognized, never realized,
accept what comes, release what goes, another powerful video, many thanks for making it,
We talk ourselves away from the direct embodied experience of becoming, putting time in place of duration. As the duality collapses I-thou, time-eternity, language leaves us in astonishment!
altruism is a farce and it is not the opposite of egoism or egoist actions...that duality of thinking allows propaganda to manipulate all the more effectively like your presumed opinion of the "healthcare slaughter" of old people...that was never proposed in fact it was a brilliant propaganda movement by the far right to counter an understanding of Obama's plan...nevertheless still a good video...but watch those black/white thoughts they are dangerous...imagine a plethora of affects in between.
Wow Andrew, Sorry you got that out of what I said..
I agree with you about dualist error. That point is the common thread in almost all my videos the error & reconciliation of split dualities. In this case my point was the problems of embracing individual competition over collective cooperation, as a dogma of human nature supported by neodarwinian readings of evolution.
Re my presumed opinions - a look at some other of my videos should clarify where i am coming from (not that it matters ☺)
Could I please take your voice from this vid and render it into another video, with a simple background and host it on my channel...all ratings and comments disabled with a link to your vid here? So well put.
In this video there is poetry, science, culture, hope, life...
Before death, if we don't think about death, but think about what kind of life we've had, and celebrated it... isn't that a better idea? I would do exactly that.
a litte hard to follow but thanks for the vid! seems to me like u know a lot of that which im trying to learn.
djindox3 2 years ago
how can a person, organism, an individual ever realize its true potential without conditions that make it struggle...hasnt evolution been exactly that?...it seems aimless given the random "bad" conditions that present life with pain, suffering, death etc.. but there is a common generality underneath...self preservation and power...this is tricky when moving from biological to economic exploitation b/c in our case it almost seems denaturalized as in the weakest and mediocre rule???
f1ghtclub2k3 2 years ago
@f1ghtclub2k3 to use your own critique dont think dualistically ☺ - its not either/or, but both/and. The dualistic extremes are behind the 20th century nightmare.
Cooperate for what? survival of course! Animal bands (including humans organise socially in order to maximise the chance of survival of the tribes genes
Individualism is still good - but its not everything in nature.
soulfetcher 2 years ago
google this excellent artical
"Cachet of the Cutthroat"
by J. Wes Ulm.
soulfetcher 2 years ago
was actually a bit closer in realizing the relatively short amount of time change can occur within generations and especially characteristic traits...neuroscience keeps discarding our old ideas of what is totally derived by fanatic readings of Darwin...and I think the neodarwinian notions of harming others to pursue self interest lies in the human need to feel unique and different and to join the world in what is easy to do...are you proposing a stagnant equality where struggle does not exist...
f1ghtclub2k3 2 years ago
Is not nature precisely that exploitation we so abhor in the human race...I can see the difference in biological exploitation and economic I dont encourage the latter but collective cooperative towards what?...is their a goal for mankind yet? I dont understand your dogma of human nature comment...isnt that a contradiction of concepts...and can we really say there is such a concrete nature of the human being? social darwinism is the product of putting to much emphasis on Darwins account...Lamark
f1ghtclub2k3 2 years ago
@f1ghtclub2k3 The early explanations of evolutions mechanism were influenced by Hobbes phrase nature red in tooth & claw. Spencer coined the phrase survival of the fittest before Darwin. Nature has been portrayed as overly individualistc & brutal allowing a model of human nature where selfish exploitation was central - not helped by the term selfish gene. Current thinking recognises the centrality of cooperation within species as a driver for group survival not al dog-eat-dog. cont
soulfetcher 2 years ago
Many recognise that natural humans are more often motivated by mutual support than cut-throatism despite the way it has been sanctifed throughout the 20th century.
Hopefully this pole of the dualism will be moderated in future social sciences &biology, eg market economists wont be able to rely on Darwin to justify their flawed model of man (dogma) underlying their economics. Thinking christianitys difficulty with evolution is fueled by its traditional rubbishing of altruism in human nature
soulfetcher 2 years ago
m/b I miss understood...I am a young intellectual sometimes I jump the gun so to speak....let me watch it again...annnd yes I took a part out of the whole and attacked it...my mistake my fault...this is something I must watch in myself...m/b my vice in wanting to be heard or significant?...Thank you for the video it was actually insightful...I can relate to the last part especially about the gifts of life embedded in an awareness of death...good day.
f1ghtclub2k3 2 years ago
Absolute Legend.....
Thankyou....
danielacheson 2 years ago
it's just unfathomable, just inconceivable how immediate existence is, I cannot even start to express the thought of it, the unbearably direct presence of effervescence, the moment, it's so full, replete and frighteningly ripe, yet never recognized, never realized,
accept what comes, release what goes, another powerful video, many thanks for making it,
almafarag 2 years ago
@almafarag Well said Márk,
We talk ourselves away from the direct embodied experience of becoming, putting time in place of duration. As the duality collapses I-thou, time-eternity, language leaves us in astonishment!
soulfetcher 2 years ago
altruism is a farce and it is not the opposite of egoism or egoist actions...that duality of thinking allows propaganda to manipulate all the more effectively like your presumed opinion of the "healthcare slaughter" of old people...that was never proposed in fact it was a brilliant propaganda movement by the far right to counter an understanding of Obama's plan...nevertheless still a good video...but watch those black/white thoughts they are dangerous...imagine a plethora of affects in between.
f1ghtclub2k3 2 years ago
Wow Andrew, Sorry you got that out of what I said..
I agree with you about dualist error. That point is the common thread in almost all my videos the error & reconciliation of split dualities. In this case my point was the problems of embracing individual competition over collective cooperation, as a dogma of human nature supported by neodarwinian readings of evolution.
Re my presumed opinions - a look at some other of my videos should clarify where i am coming from (not that it matters ☺)
soulfetcher 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing!
pangeaprogress 2 years ago
Thank you. Love.
SilverBuddha 2 years ago
thank you.
egoistorms 2 years ago
Very powerful.
zarkoff45 2 years ago
sweet wisdom...thank you
greatleapforward08 2 years ago
You may be interested in my channel on death and dying (this is Loreleila btw). Interesting exploration. Thank you.
FinalTaboo 2 years ago
Could I please take your voice from this vid and render it into another video, with a simple background and host it on my channel...all ratings and comments disabled with a link to your vid here? So well put.
Elenkhos 2 years ago
@Elenkhos Your welcome to use it. happy it can be of use to you.
soulfetcher 2 years ago
Wonderful video. Many thanks
Professoranton 2 years ago
Fav'ed!
In this video there is poetry, science, culture, hope, life...
Before death, if we don't think about death, but think about what kind of life we've had, and celebrated it... isn't that a better idea? I would do exactly that.
dewinthemorning 2 years ago
Beautiful, thank you Graham
Internalexpansion 2 years ago
Thanks very much for this Grahame. Much appreciated.
conferencereport 2 years ago