HD Starcraft 2 SlayerS.MMA v Mouz.Hasu g3

[BillYiOn1]

Inarush r u retarded? Or r u just trolling.

[inarush123456789]

Disgusting. This korean fuck should learn to play macro instead of being a little bitchy rushing noob. I could rush like him and win. Anybody can fucking rush and win. Macroing and winning is much harder and is the sign of a good player. MMA needs to learn its value. And he also needs to switch races. Terran is so fucking imba its ridiculous. Oh look, i dont have to spend gas on ANYTHING besides ghosts and medivacs and I'll win versus a Protoss's heavy gas sentry, HT, collosus, DT army.

[xxXApotheosisXxx]

@inarush123456789 MMA? The guy who won at Blizzard and GSL is a "little bitchy rushing noob?" I hope you're trolling. If not, you're a retard. I like the comment "I could rush like him and win." Why don't you do it? You could make a ton of money. Oh. That's right. You can't do it. Fucktard. Mouz.Hasu must be your boyfriend or something...

[AKNguyen123]

i remember there was a time, when we could play NR 40. those were the good o days, not this newb 5 minute rushes

[IamtheAlienator]

Unreal...

[dukkyfuzz1]

Japan is better then the world...at porn

[klakier19901]

MMA is a MONSTER!!!

[Smeagollum86]

is slayers = slayers boxer?

[roropoh]

@Smeagollum86 slayers = the clan, MMA = the player, but boxer is from SlayerS (the clan)

[dgrandes]

I think that Hasu made the mistake of keeping his stalkers out of his base at a dangerous time. He didnt know what the terran was up to, and even knew the terran favors rushing. He also didnt have blink yet, nor an observer to spot the high ground, it would have been safer and better to hold out in the main until his tech was done. 3 stalkers well positioned coudl have destroyed the medivac and a counter with blink could have been pretty effective. Nice play by MMA.

[hyung0204]

@94entoi Fuck you Korea's best

[94entoi]

fuck korea japan's better

[RedWolfCid]

I beat walling off vs T will become popular again, helion run-by is just so much more of a threat then tank contain anyway

[Pasling270]

oh look terran has a billion units before toss has 3 what a suprise...oh look Air too....

[cramtoro]

Nice to see crushed gaytoss :))

[GothicGirI7]

oh man if he just used the boosts on the blink earlier he could bring stalkers faster or micro them ...

[giladmymon]

Even Though MMA won .i think hasu is a better player

[CODmasterbeast]

@giladmymon joke right?

[MrGeras145]

that was fucking orgasmic

[nights312312]

very good casts! keep it up!!

[FinalSkyTheGamer]

Hey HD :) You know what Diablo mark were in the wings of liberty collector edithen :) ?

[sirkill1]

as good as korea my ass

[vinht11]

SPOILER ALERT: One of them rushes the other.

[rightwraith]

0:51 "tooken." Lol.

[wishvids]

Terran+korean>Blizzard

[wakkaboom1987]

WHITERA FTMOTHERFUCKINGWIN. Fuck anyone else.

[KimCuongBatHoai]

if I'm Protoss player, how can I survive with this Drop-marine / Hellion strategy?

[RJR03]

@KimCuongBatHoai fighting units

[Xero555000]

@KimCuongBatHoai sentries

[MadBagOfHorses]

@KimCuongBatHoai

Anything, really. Spotting it is the trouble. Hasu had no idea it was coming and did the one strategy that just dies to it.

Hasu should have had a couple more units and slightly earlier warp gates, like he would have with any other build, and if he did would have had no problem holding that push specifically.

Without blink, even... just having a few stalkers.

[d3ZoRGG]

gay

[Balgore8]

1 Stalker 7 minutes in lol? Yeah, "GG".

[fenrirbr]

ridiculous

[Killemedkeps]

Why is it so important for HD to find the buildings?

[lexlilicious]

sussess

[cryteeek]

Hasu looks like shit

[LittleBitOfSunshine1]

Never gonna let you down!

[spurrell]

@jun2art “Follow me,” the stalker replied. ” It's just past the Baneling’s nest, next to those colosi and infesters.“

[MadBagOfHorses]

@jun2art

Someone's finally telling it like a joke. Idk how many times I've seen the comment "marines walk into a bar there's no counter".

That shit is horrible. Like 3 year old blonde girls telling each other jokes, what the hell?

[alquiora]

@MadBagOfHorses Yeah I don't understand why some people think "cold" joke is funny. That marine "joke" is as worst as "Dalai Lama goes to a pizza shop"!

[enueck]

@MadBagOfHorses it's actually a pretty good joke though :D dunno I just started playing and watching sc2

[LittleBitOfSunshine1]

Never going to let you down.

[Tusam111]

like in the old times!

[drfter240sx]

where can i get this replay?????? i want it bad

[M1ke9876]

what? how was MMA's gameplay in g2 cheesey? he used drops and took out buildings which were of high importance

[lagerbaer]

@M1ke9876 I think he refers to the bunker in front of the natural and the super-fast hellions on the factory that was lifted to low ground

[M1ke9876]

@lagerbaer ah yes, that'd make sense i guess. i forgot about it, the mid-late game was too intense XD

[Qwerty48121]

how do you rotate the camera?

[xPloSiVgT]

Not bad. Not bad at all

[BotswanaBrother]

obama 2012

[Venim85]

lmao!

[DrPooMonster]

That was sick

[blueskyzfreedom]

Just give up, foreigners will never be as good as Koreans in SC, SCII and any SC coming up

[Killerfang71]

Why don't players in SC2 ever do secret bases anymore. I miss that :(

[kelmorian178]

Nerf Terran!? pffft. Save time.

Nerf the Koreans

[Malacite]

Jank vs Jank!

LOVE IT! <3

[denomemo]

Great vast hd!!!!!!!

[SHAWSDOWS]

when he made that fast factory on the edge i thought he was gonna fly it to protos' base and pressure with helions while pushing with the marines. awesome players though!

[r3nz4h]

T_T



[ImTrainwrekk]

smh

[Karmoon7]

Incredible play.

That ain't cheese in my book.

[braxxo]

I think this matchup is actually fair. Terran get the edge early game because their tier 1 and tier 1.5 units are really good, but lategame I think toss gets the edge because their caster units and archons make short work of a maxxed mma ball. Terran lack AOE and going mech against protoss is actually quite difficult against HT and blink stalkers. Conclusion? If you let a toss max its your fault u lost. Protoss? Get better at holding 1 base all ins. Force the macro game.

[OfficialJerla]

Can you put my fight on your channel? I sent you my replay.

[SSStylish198]

i really miss when you started your vids with a long "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE­Y" :/

[starfox300]

nooo Dennis Schneider!

[wakkaboom1987]

Marines are OP, fuck them,, poor protoss UP...

[MasterDwarf97]

@wakkaboom1987 well the maxed out protoss army with storm and colossus...sertainly ain't underpowered...

[wakkaboom1987]

WHITERA PROTOSS MOTHERFUCKING PRO.

[Chiffyl]

Spoiler on the top comments!.. um... Donuts!



[ghksgmlk23]

@Chiffyl awh damn you spoiler!!

[Venim85]

@Chiffyl

Pink Donut!

[hoshinocrimsonwings]

@Chiffyl Anyone with a third of a brain, might see it coming with the 5 minute long game time. Otherwise, yes a spoiler.

[MOHWORDLIFE]

mma rules hhh just kidding protoss player must had some units befor had another gateway

[ROFLMAOjenkins]

mma cheeses every last game of a series

[pablokma]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ EZ

[chungawanga]

MMA!!!

[billyboy4]

For some reason I don't feel that this game was worth casting.

[lifessaverz]

@Riushinn Force Fields rape marines no joke

[justinharker]

MMA didnt use cheesy play last game. When HD says stupid stuff like that i lose a little respect for him.

[TheDrepulizer]

Sees time of video...cheese

[aleksandersucharski]

OH SHI..

[kickit246]

Wow, crazy fast game. Was hoping for a good macro game. I'd love to see some bc's, but theres so much that counters them. I think they need a buff :/

[TechnoDogge]

MMA WON 

[AlcoEdu]

It seems like MMA didn't want to play a long match. It could have been dangerous

[killerstick1]

@red244 how are U meant to feedback ghosts there so small and they can cloak and Terran has a wider range of early game harrasment and can sometime make the toss player gg as U just saw and Terran units are cheap and effective so even if the toss can rebuild the army im sure Terran can put down a few bunkers to stop toss from attacking and even without bunkers im sure they will have enough units to deny it

[SuperMatthew345]

@killerstick1 Your argument:

Assumption

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Assumption

Closing statment

[red244]

@killerstick1 Oh noes, Ghost can cloak it's not like I have a air detector in my arsenel. (And I doubt many Terrans would be bothered to shoot it down in a major engagement). On top of that storm still hits them, cloaked or not. Sure it's only doing alittle damage over time but it adds up.

Seriously, it's quite simple. The whole point of playing Toss is that you should win late game. You don't play Protoss for early or mid-game that's Terran.

[hookzAndBendz]

@Riushinn

You're actuallly telling me that only templar and colosus can deal with marines ?! ... better check LiquidHero's games and see how Stalkers own marines, no matter the numbers... .. only colosus and templar .. hahh gimme a break..

[EdsonYamamoto]

spoiler,

zerg won with a cannon rush

[ChiyosukeBLC]

SPOILER:

Zerg won with a 6 pool

[starliteinfernal]

MMA just dropped him! PUN INTENDED?!

[wellguesswhatIthink]

that's the price of over-producing buildings early on, you cease production of probes and then you're out of resources to put into all of your buildings if the opponent chooses to attack even earlier

[DJayye]

@Dreez76 Protoss doesn't even need the medivac or scv. Plus, the economic investment of ghosts in similar to High Templar, both of which are gamebreakers. Stop complaining.

[sc2videomaker]

Please come to my channel:)

[Deaznam]

Zerg player wins !!!

[990408chang]

Protoss

[ewbkilling77]

I thought you could only play as Terran and zerg. What is this other race called?

[TheSlitch1]

@ewbkilling77 Protoss

[Dreez76]

EMP EMP EMP EMP EMP EMP... how to play Terran against Protoss.. EMP EMP EMP EMP EMP EMP. How to play Terran against Protoss... EMP EMP EMP EMP.

Gamebreaking ability that the Terran-fanboys, Blizzard, will never nerf.

[sesbech]

@Dreez76 I'm sure you know all about game balance in bronze league. Keep being bad, son.

[KKrigla]

@Dreez76

take EMP away from terrans, and give them shields instead. I think most of terrans would be more than happy....

[Dreez76]

@KKrigla Terran's can be healed & repaired, Protoss can't . Once that shield is gone and damage being done to their body, the damage is permanent, unlike Terran's who just call in an SCV or Medivac.

The EMP needs to be reduced to ST, period. Right now, it gives EZ-mode i-win against Protoss.

[red244]

@Dreez76 Protoss can re-build there army in afew seconds. Terran takes time.

Repairing doesn't do much in battles and mech is almost never used v protoss any more so that point is invalid.

Healing. Is countered by Feedback and storm. Healing doesn't mean anything in storm.

Archons destory bio with their splash damage. Feedback counters ghosts.

[jayhog1283]

@red244 feedback has less range than emp they do almost the same thing cept emp is an aoe attack so i wouldnt say feedback counters ghosts

[Riushinn]

@red244 Well the most drastic point for the Terran is the most op unit in the game, the marine. The most cost-efficient and high-DPS unit in the game, and protoss's only effective and viable counters are the "Colossus" and High Templar" which from what I recall. Are tier 3 units. Protoss needs tier 3 units to deal with a tier 1 unit, which means the terran dominates the early-game. There are a lot more points to talk about

[wastagwaga]

@Riushinn stalkers and even zerglings can overpower marines. they are not op, it's all about micro & macro management.

[red244]

@Riushinn No, marines are only cost effiecent with good controll. Otherwise they are a waste of resources. Stalkers can kite them easily early game and Zealots if get close enough would do decent damage themselves. The only reason he lost last game was because his Archons didn't attack the ball when in the "valley of death."

[Loppy2345]

@Riushinn Zealots rape marines in a straight up fight, archons, high templar and colossus can kill masses of marines in seconds, and force fields trap marines like bugs. How many more counters does protoss need lol.

[UncensoredRhett]

Zealots lose to marines once marines get to high enough numbers.

Archons do the same.

High Templar can only storm so much. Also, marine split

Colossus are really the only things that protoss can use against mass marine

[akaa46]

@UncensoredRhett if u have good micro, blinks stalkers will do the trick too.

[MasterDwarf97]

@UncensoredRhett and that is what 90% of every toss will use....

[1Sky1]

@Loppy2345

High Templar, Archons, Colossus, and Zealots acting as meatshields for the former three will beat Marines (t1) and Marauders (t.5)? No way!? Maybe that means it's time to tech up to Siege Tanks, Thors, and Vikings, with the Marines/Mauraders acting as meat shields and drops around the Protoss base.

[KKrigla]

@Riushinn i would LOVE to use tanks and lets say battlecruisers, but when they simply arent good enough against protoss.

so u need tier 3 units to counter tier 1 units only because terran's tier 3 units are useless against all protoss tier 1 units(zealots own tanks)

Ucant give everything to every1.... terran has early game, toss has late game.If terran doesnt do dmg early game toss will own him late game. Its simple as that

[iLLyNada]

@Dreez76 observers keep track where ghosts are so you can storm feedback etc. You can easily feedback the medivacs which are most likely full energy to do a lot of damage on them. Plus, protoss can bank minerals and chrono boots for a push and continuously assault a terran base for a long period of time while it would take a while for a terran to rebuild

[13letniEmeryt]

@Dreez76 What the fuck? EMP was nerfed to 1.5 radius. And Toss is really easy to play, just make units -_-

[joncito77]

gg

[PrimeBrawler]

Meh, Protoss is the only race that can't do these early shit harass plays. I hope HotS will make some improvements to Protoss.

[1337Jogi]

@PrimeBrawler

true

If you wanted to cheese you have to do  lame cannon rush.

sucks bad

[bingobeawr]

Terran OP,no way to deal with such shit as a toss.

[Equiliptixx17]

@bingobeawr Rofl ... Archons endless splash ... Collosi , Mmmm ... Do you know how to Force Field ? If you don't there's a place to imrpove on ... Lets see ... Imortals ? For those marauders ? just a couple is enough early game. HT FFS !!! Storm Storm Storm Storm ... Storm ... What else could I say ? I think thatz about it .

[DwightkSchrute101]

@bingobeawr an effective way is making units....btw im toss

[thrashish]

great cast. great series. yes to stats.

[Consubtantialem]

@Jastro88 Only because the game is SO balanced for Terran against Protoss. Protoss isn't OP in the late game at all. That's why Korean pros choose most of the time to do 1 base all ins versus Toss, because the late game is so entirely balanced. Because you don't have work three times as hard to beat a Protoss player who makes macro and micro mistakes, and loses an entire expansion. Case in point? The first game of this series. <3

[Jastro88]

@Consubtantialem This is obviously a point of contention between T and P players. As a primarily Protoss player, I'd argue that Protoss players still need to work for that win. With mules (which can mine beyond full saturation), a lost expansion isn't as painful, and the Terran can catch up. That being said I agree that if it wasn't for ghost EMP, terrans late game would have a hard time. (By late game I mean after the ~16 minute mark.) But stimmed MMM is scary all game...

[Consubtantialem]

@Jastro88 Even with Ghost EMP, Terran late game is extremely underpowered. I play both Protoss and Terran, and despite having devoted less than one-tenth of the time to Protoss, I am a league up (Diamond) compared to my Terran (Platinum). Mules are meant to counteract chronoboosted probes and macro drones. Your point is moot. A Terran player who forgets to mule versus any competent Protoss will find himself way behind in income. AND I'm talking about the TOSS losing a Nexus and still winning.

[akaa46]

@Consubtantialem i compelety agree. see, if u look at it this way, the entire game the terran only has one choice, mmm, even in late game, its still mmm. however wiht the protoss, u see blink stalekrs, collosus, then they tech switch into Ht and charged lots.

[1Sky1]

@Consubtantialem

Terran lategame is not underpowered. Most just stay with Marine/Marauder. Of course t1/1.5 units are going to lose against t3 units. Besides, a lot of good terran build an extra orbital command for energy. On maps with a gold a good terran can easily get way ahead of the other races much quicker by flying an orbital over and dropping a bunch of mules. Terran isn't underpowered, most people just stick with the easiest units to get and don't actually use strategy.

[vredes]

@1Sky1 You really dont know nothing about this game.

[Hydrosion61]

@1Sky1 I'm sorry, are you suggesting terran use battlecruisers? LOL. There's a reason Terrans don't use T3, it just isn't effective enough.

[Jastro88]

@Consubtantialem I think to say "extremely underpowered" is a bit... well, extreme. I respectfully disagree with you. Inre: your ladder standings; perhaps you truly are a Protoss player at heart...

[balabalayt]

Did i hear some fingersnap?

[desislavilev]

is that HasuHasi from warcraft 3 ?



[SquishyTurtleDuck]

MMA wins!!!!

[gorthorki]

lame terran OP

[kennyc002]

@gorthorki Actually, just MMA being OP. Terran's balanced if you don't take Slayers and MVP into account. Looks at players like Kas: fantastic terran but still very much so mortal. :P

More importantly, this was just a build order win with a timing attack.

[starcraftrocks1000]

you get that symbol for buying the limited edition of sc2

[zzho039]

excellent timing

[Wargargble]

slayers vs mouz hmm who would have guess that they would win

[gnomaz15]

I don't play this game, but commentator enthusiasm just makes me want to watch theese videos :P

[lifestation1]

Anti-Spoiler:

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[redstreams]

That was sick!

[djsuperstar717]

The build goes like, Get 9th SCV, Build Supply Depot, Make SCVs, Build Barracks and pump out 5 Marines before adding Reactor, Make more SCVs, Build Refineries, More SCVs, Supply Depot, More SCVs, Factory make 3 Hellions before adding Tech, More SVCs, Build Starport and make 1 Medivac before adding Tech.

Then you could Rush with your Hellions and Marines, and if that doesn't work out,

Then you go into midgame and build more Barracks, Factories, Etc

[Slimebase]

sigh..... no anti spoiler :(

[tuestresfat]

despite what these games seem to indicate, hasuobs is no-fucking-where near the level of MMA -_-"

[monkeydude1313]

@tuestresfat Disagree.

[tuestresfat]

@monkeydude1313 MMA recently won gsl. the best foreigners including huk, idra, morrow, naniwa, sen, jinro, can't even make it past code A.

[trbot]

@tuestresfat idra's been code s...

[tuestresfat]

@trbot yea like 6 seasons ago when no1 was good and he still only placed top8 as his best result. this season? knocked out in last place (granted he had a tough group, so it's unfair to say he was bad or anything, but he isn't anywhere near the level of a recent gsl winner).

[tuestresfat]

@trbot and hasuobs is not better than idra lol.

[trbot]

@tuestresfat just replying to the claim "idra [...] can't even make it past code A"

[tuestresfat]

@trbot oh, then yea i agree it was poor phrasing on my part. it wasn't what i meant.

[iamverita]

one of the biggest weaknesses of protoss is their late scouting. unless one chronos the warpgate and goes halu and sentry, there is not way to look into the enemy base until robo+obs which is only possible early with a few builds. scans and overlords are avaoilable almost at once

[cboogey05]

i always tell myself never to read the first comment, i do and thus ruining the game ... FUCK

[0Radex]

@cboogey05 Watch HD's videos on his channel than.

[MontaqV3]

@cboogey05 it's a 5 minute TvP who the fuck do you think would have one?

[Hellwarrior1000]

@MontaqV3 deffinetly not ur english teacher...

[BigNickDigger88]

I hate that new sound when you like a comment