Universal Techno Pt.2 - Kevin Saunderson & Derrick May

[Disquoo]

i think derrick may is talking a bit a shite in this

[kennyconga]

juan atkins coined the term techno to describe a style of music. that's why people say techno was invented in detroit. just like house music. similar things were going on in both new york and chicago at the same time, but the word house was coined in chicago. 

europeans heavily influenced techno and house in its early stages. that is a fact. kraftwerk being a perfect example. we can also talk about italo disco records like capricorn and i'm hungry. what about e2 e4?

[tecnoladave]

"techno" the first time is as the name to a certain type of music was used for a sound that was created in detroit was a melding of electronic kraftwerk inspired sounds and funky soul parliament inspired sounds. what came out of those two was something totally new.

[wayneulmer]

I just wanted to point out that I think it's VERY MISLEADING to play Kraftwerk's 1991 mix of "The Robots" in the film and display it as released in 1978.

[atlantichouse]

Techno is electro by another name. Detroit didn't invent jackshit, they listened to the sounds of kraftwerk (and other european electronic new wave) being played all over the radio at the time and then sought to imitate that beat, so excuse me but how in hell could they of invented the genre when it was already in existence? all that Detroit did was to give it its name. the idea that they created this new sound is pure bullshit.

[donotseemecricket]

@atlantichouse man, that is your opnion, and it isn't one shared by most of the people in the electronic music world. if you believe that, well so be it. but whining about it on youtube isn't going to change the fact that just about anyone who listens to it will consider techno a genre that was formed in Detroit. you should stop hating, shut the fuck up and DANCE!

[atlantichouse]

@donotseemecricket i'm not whining and i'm certainly not a hater.. i'm merely pointing out that detroits claim on the creation of the techno/electro genre is pure bullshit... now if you want to believe in fairy-tales then i guess thats your business. i'm not trying to denigrate your city. detroit has a towering record regarding musical history but they didn't create the electro genre, they copied kraftwerk. but don't take my word for it... research it yourself, your come to the same conclusion.

[COMISQUI123]

@atlantichouse echno is electro by another name. what that fuck are u talking about , u don't even know how electronic music is sub generalized

[atlantichouse]

@COMISQUI123 i'm taking about the source of the genre - how and where it began (which predates Detroit) I'm not talking about the sub-generalizations that came later. This new electronic genre was in existance before detroit began to imitate the sound. Detroit are kidding themselves if they believe that it was they who found this new beat. Detroit copied the sound of Kraftwerk - which was being played all over the radio at the time.

Imitation not innovation!

youtube: raymond scott IBM probe

[tecnoladave]

you couldnt be more wrong. all of those european artists were influential to many people including these guys and they have been very vocal about it. techno now has become a broad term for edm and i think you may be blurring the lines a bit. when a group of guys influenced by parliment and kraftwerk set out to make something new...music melding those things together. and the did it. that was the music that was first called techno.

[atlantichouse]

@COMISQUI123 or perhaps you tube raymond scott - base line generator.

It is these artist's who are the true creators of 'Techno' and not Detroit - as you all have been lead to believe.

[atlantichouse]

@COMISQUI123 or try out: Tom dissevelt & kid baltan - syncopation

another pioneer creating electro/techno years before detroit got anywhere near it.

[giacomo23]

KS IS THE MAN! woooo... this guy teach techno 2 the world

[subsub808]

@fenderrhodesmechanic suck balls u simple Yank retard !!!

[Atetrakz]

First song

Underground resistance - living for the nite (master reese's late night mix)

Second song

Kevin saunderson - Your love (clubbed up UK vocal mix)

[lasoo88]

What is the song Kevin puts on at 1:34m? Anyone know?

[Arielforsklein]

Yo, what is the track playing @ 1:34? the dark and deep.

[peteblaker]

the time a new record was holy!

[atonly]

1:40 can someone link this possibly...

[DYLX2100]

@atonly can listen here mate - discogs.com/Underground-Resist­ance-Featuring-Yolanda-Living-­For-The-Nite-Remixes/release/2­32842

[NotTonTon]

wonder what the texts that come up mean...oh btw any body heard of sarcasm?

[Kidnasium]

hey man, absorbing footage \o/

[DYLX2100]

love kevin's shorts.

[andrewwowk]

@DYLX2100 Was just about to say the same thing

[12345chandelier]

@lynamhill16 Inner City - Your Love (Kevin Saunderson Clubbed Up UK Dub)

[djvartan]

the blue shorts are key

[BeatzFollower]

nice shorts

[lynamhill16]

Track at 1.34?? Please...anybody

[livershot]

Its funny how Iggy sang "dance to the beat of the living dead" on Raw Power in '74 and talked about making music that sounded like car factories and then a few years later all this starts up

[santiagomarulanda]

THE FIRST TRACK IS : UR ft YOLANDA - living for the night - master reese 's nite mix ...

[psychadelialove]

yea what the hell is that song at 1:35 ?

that is a banger and it's definitely not just want another chance by reese... please let us know, that would be dank!!!

[DrSanguine]

@psychadelialove go to this on youtube: "your love" (kevin saunderson clubbed uk vocal mix)

[psychadelialove]

@DrSanguine HELL TO THE YES i should buy you a beer

[DrSanguine]

@psychadelialove glad to help

[thephaseshifter]

haha,,, 1:14 the dude on the back is like WTF !

[188488]

does someone know where to find the particular remix on 1:35?

[ZMOK1000]

Reese - Just Want Another Chance (A3)

[jacknesky]

woh, wuts the name of the tune he puts on at 1:35?

[enmedallo]

Derrick May says so much intelligent things here. I wanna be his friend. :)

[midnightstepper]

Nice shorts Kev!!

[pfhrmb]

derrick may says some pretty heavy shit

[jadizm]

anyone know the track when he says "i like it dark"?

[tomtomsoundz]

Techno is invented in Detroit. End of story!

Great upload!!

[monoperez4]

not so dark before the minute...

[dsandwhich00]

I can appreciate his contribution to electronic music, but Derrick May is sort of a douche.

[vonjugel]

Without Chicago ... Detroit would just be Electro.

[Dopedagainmusic]

@vonjugel do you have some kind of special power to guess the future? go to the facts. not to the Ifs!

[N3H3C]

"I like the Darkness ... I like it dark and Deep..."

Words and an opening of a track I will never forget in my life ...

[brulione]

@N3H3C wich track is? and the track before? anybody knows?

[spangla777]

AUX 88 DB, JUAN,KEVIN, ROBERT HOOD

[noeld333]

Don't make them like this anymore!.........PITY!

[retroferret]

i dont know why you all have to argue about origins and how shit one type of electronic is or how "real" another is... the musicians from detroit probably dont argue about how they started it all and how shit europe is etc etc

90 percent of the comments here are close minded.

[FetidToecheese]

Yeah it's mad - I'm really enjoying this documentary, but the comments pages are full of stupid shite. Stop trying to claim ownership of anything and enjoy the music. It's fascinating to hear from the detroit people themselves. Also listen to Krafterk talk about their origins. All great stuff. Love this music

[AndyLarkinCanada]

I love old detroit techno, it is a REAL TECHNO, not that popular "new era techno shit" that people listen today.

[fuanfosegomez]

yeah man, detroit techno, was, is, and is going to be the REAL TECHNO forever.

[hsd628]

Lol how old are you? There was techno before Detroit techno. Stop being so closed minded. Detroit was merely an evolution of what came before. That's how all music works. If you persist in a mindset that any kind of music is "the REAL x" then you will be stuck listening to the same thing for the rest of your life. Hell, really.

[fuanfosegomez]

hummmm let me ask u something, do u really watched the documental or wath?...actually i´m a producer, i know musical tendences in and out of electronic music...and for meeee, and maybe people with nice taste, the detroit techno is the born of the SOUND, the feeling, of others kind of music...but techno is one and i respect the all kinds...

[seungyup]

@hsd628 what do you mean 'techno' before detroit techno?

that doesnt make any sense. sure there were other electronic

music out there, and yes detroit techno was

an evolution of chicago house, but there was no techno the genre

before detroit. i think you meant to say there were other forms of

electronic music before detroit techno.

[Proton1]

TIESTO IS TEH RILZ TEKNO! YAAAA!

Oh my god, I'm so fucking kidding.

[floresed]

Kevin Saunderson rules!!

[batitombo]

i like it dark, that's was up

[luroh]

like it dark .. deep

[BobSeiji]

They are all look so young!!!

[rhinonose]

can anyone ID the track at 1:36

[daimonxp]

Yeah no kidding. I'm curious as well. I'd love to have that track.

[daimonxp]

Ah found it....

Kevin Saunderson - Just Another  Chance (Original)

[rutturu]

nope that aint it, not even close

[gaztherobot]

it sounds like the intro to fingers inc.distant planet on dj international...up detroit

[stareveo]

hevently , beye  BABE

[wittenbergdoor]

nice shorts, kevin!

[stevee0303]

Giving far too much respect to detroit for my liking. THEY never created techno??? It existed before them, they merely gave it the name and built their detroit scene.

The rest of the world adopted the title of techno but already had it's own electronic scenes.

I don't like the way detroits think they are the elite. Techno would exist regardless of detroits contributions!!!

The europeans brought it to them, they gave it a name and messed with it a little.

[freeeekyyy]

americans didn't invent electronic music. They didn't invent electronic dance music. They did invent techno. Just like the germans invented synthrock.

[AestheticizeAnalog]

You are right, but unfortunately the european edm that predates techno and house makes me laugh whenever I hear it.

[Tougemaster06]

What about House which is credited with starting the Electronic Dance Music revolution?

[ingy6969]

sick shorts kevin!

[RecollectionRoad]

I love chicago house and detroit techno, and im european. I got records from Joe smooth, Sterling void, Inner City, Ten City, Saunderson, Fingers Inc, Knuckles, Mr Fingers. Great Docu. btw!

[specialbuddy1]

Kraftwerk needs to come to DEMF(Movement Festival) in Detroit.

[Caffeine205]

Track at 0:41 is Underground Resistance - Living For The Night (Kevin Saunderson Mix) and track at 1:50 is Inner City - Your Love (Kevin Saunderson's Clubbed UK Vocal Mix)

[rutturu]

I found the version you mentioned on soulseek but it sounds nothing like it. Could you upload it somewhere?

[MythE86]

track at 1:50 anyone ?

[tubechango]

there's an old italian man called Luigi Russolo father of synthetic sounds and besides creator of the materpiece "art of noises"

[harlemoneagain]

Track ID @ 1:40?

[acidhouse1988]

Saw Kraftwerk in 2004. Like the vid says they inspired alot of todays music ie, Techno and also hiphop via afrian bambaattaa

[tubechango]

yeah at least someone whose agree with me

[djsintek]

that's a cool bassline on min 1.40 :D

[damnzenman]

Wow that beat Mr. Saunderson is playing has a dirty bassline WheWW!

[matzomaniac]

underground resistance 4 life!

[tubechango]

the black guy at the end of the video takes a lot of credits in the industry of mechanic and electronic music. i think it's not at all Detroit the craddle of techno i think it's more european. the birth of techno

[HJC4000]

Techno was invented in Detroit end of story. Sure they may be influenced by Europe, but techno come from Detroit, made by people living in Detroit.

[Tougemaster06]

Agreed. The Europeans did more the hurt the genre then anything. THe Europeans created the negative drug stereotype for the music.

[lordoid]

"THe Europeans created the negative drug stereotype for the music?" What the hell does that mean? Music and Drugs are going hand in hand all over the world. And there are always people using drugs and people don't. No matter where they come from.

And nobody hurt any genre. Electronic music was and is big in europe and inspires the whole world. The same in US and all around the globe. Music is universal. If Artists would think like you than there would be no evolution!

[Tougemaster06]

You have a point. I take it back then..

[donwolfie]

omg never seen a debate end so cleanly on youtube, epic stuff :)

[subsub808]

`Europeans did more the hurt the genre then anything` You serious mate. Agreed Tecno began in Detrioit and House began in Chicago,BEGAN AND ENDED !! Our American friends didnt go with it , decided in thier infinate wisdom to go with RAP/HIPHOP instead. So whilst in Europe we were all getting loved up on E`s the Americans, were popping a cap in each others arses, smoking crack and genrally turning into a generation of violent runts. Without drugs the genre would have died long ago - so what?

[LongDongSilver666]

are you crediting music with urban violence? Real smart.

I would advise you, as a violent American runt from Detroit, to quit destroying your fucking brain with drugs and learn a thing or two. Your generalization is as broad, sweeping, and untrue as when an American, for example, calls French people a bunch of pussified dick grabbers or says that all Germans are nazis.

You don't have rap only because your music evolved from a different path and origin than ours.

Uppity European twat.

[redgixxer18]

rap and hip hop came from blues and jazz dipshit euroturd, go drink some car oil in your cloud city wanker

[fenderrhodesmechanic]

Yes, this logic is study in the chronically disillusioned Cultural Historian. Thanks for the journey to the Origins of "Techno", what Americans "chose" when asked apparently if Techno or Rap/Hip Hop was the "Options" (LOL at this Mania). The 80's characterized so cleverly by E consumption in Europe and Americans experiencing a crime epidemic. With Drugs, that is for you, anti-psychotics, and possibly Shock Therapy, you do stand a slim chance of transforming from Total Moron to Moron.

[fenderrhodesmechanic]

Yes, this logic is study in the chronically disillusioned Cultural Historian. Thanks for the journey to the Origins of "Techno", what Americans "chose" when asked apparently if Techno or Rap/Hip Hop was the "Options" (LOL at this Mania). The 80's characterized so cleverly by E consumption in Europe and Americans experiencing a crime epidemic. With Drugs, that is for you, anti-psychotics, and possibly Shock Therapy, you do stand a slim chance of transforming from Total Moron to Moron.

[tubechango]

what do you know about music ahh? fucking amateur well i don't think that i can share names like karlheinz stockhausen with you

so i would not start any kind of discuss STFU

[Symmetriad]

You can't classify all electronic music as "techno." Many aspects of electronic music were created and/or inspired by Europeans, yes, but the specific genre of techno was created in Detroit, and the specific genre of house in Chicago. Those are historical facts by any metric.

[ashanaha33]

You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Even most europeans know that techno, house, and hip hop were born in the USA in Detroit and Chicago. Check your history facts idiot.

[tubechango]

ohh do you?

[elefou]

True.

[IheartFreedom]

Derrick May's music is mediocre compared to Saunderson and Atkins and his ego's too big. I still remember reading the biography of Depeche Mode in which Alan Wilder had some not nice things to say about him.

[wstunder]

I read stuff too, but I met May in 98 in Pittsburgh. i greeted him and asked for his autograph (he was on the Transmat tour) and a photo with him. I had never met a more gracious and kinder guy. Don't always believe what you read.

[HJC4000]

So you believe one guy and not the hundreds that have meet DM later and told you he is a humble and nice guy.

[fenderrhodesmechanic]

Wow, Depeche Mode biography is source to confirm Atkins big ego. Alan WIlder is the go to guy. If I had to believe anyone should they talk shit about another musician, it would be him. Also, if I ever reveal that I read the Depeche Mode Biography and reference it to debase a pioneer, readers will know that my Sex Change has been completed.

[frankcastillodoowop]

Amazing. The clip of Kraftwerk is brillance, not to mention the seamless video of detroit in all it's dystopian glory

[hypogenetic]

The first track as Kevin states is a remix he did for Mad Mike Banks & Co. As he is standing in Submerge Records I would summize that he is holding an early Submerge Record Shop Exclusive, by which I mean you actually had to go to Submerge in person to discover the In-house[Submerge & Affiliates] Exclusives.

The second track looks like a few others [generic] on the wall, so they could easily be Submerge's own stash. I have been looking for it for years, since this doco came on SBS in Oz.

[philroyian]

superb video..

[Dhamma74]

Ok his a great artist but derrick is so full of himself,,,Juan on the other hand seems very humble.

[yurbuddy]

OK. . . Does anyone know the first track kevin plays. . .

Thanks!

[JN6]

I think its's Yolanda - living for the night on UR-016

[msg360]

wow this was great really inspirational

anyone who wants to get into this kind of music should watch

[fergiec]

Inner City - Your Love (Kevin Saunderson's Clubbed UK Vocal Mix) woops ass kind find it on limewire god damn it....the darker the better

[josefflorian]

good vid. congrats!

[axel313foley]

2nd track is Inner City - Your Love (Kevin Saunderson's Clubbed UK Vocal Mix)

[hypogenetic]

THANKYOU very much Axel, I have about 40 Reese/Kevin 12"'s and this one slipped by obviously, I am in your debt and I should read the entire thread before posting :) Thanks Again Brother!

[brulione]

@axel313foley Wich one is the first one?

[scottlrp13]

2nd song Saunderson is playing? Anyone?

[p0rr0]

UR 4EVER !

[johnneedslove]

er is it?

[johnneedslove]

that a groove t-shirt? lol nah but that'd be hella tight eh?

[11m11e11k11]

it's a Serious Grooves t-shirt

great house label

[earthancer]

what's the second song Saunderson plays? :-)

[qiplayer]

i lowe this music!!!

[escobareric]

This is classic

Techno 4ever

[kstevenson83]

Dark horrid techno...these people should be crowned!