Macedonia was never a region of Greece,on the contrary,ancient Greece was subjected to the Macedonians when Alexander conquered Greece in 338 B.C. In 1913 modern Greece and her SLAVIC ALLIES partitioned Macedonia. Today a portion [51%] belongs to Greece it is by virtue of an illegal partition of the whole occupation of the MACEDONIANS. GO TO GOOGLE and TYPE-IN :...... "macedonia before 1913".
@MAlexandros1 GREECE - BANKRUPT SHITHOLE!! HAHAHA! TRY WORKING FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE, GREEK CUNT?? INSTEAD YOU EXPECT GERMANY TO PAY YOUR BILLS?! CUNT!
And i will try to face you with a simple question....
As the whole history says( not only greek). You are Slavic people and slavic people move to Balkans at 6th century... so you cannot be the same macedonians who reach india and conquer the whole persian empire...
You move in the period of Byzantine Empire. In this territory in the period of Alexander the Great they lived greek tribes like Molossian and Paeonians...
(how fyrom people think) if you take them and put them in the shit they will think geniusly that we are shit!!!!! and he will paid to give them back all the shit to his shitland!!!!! FUCK YOU fyrom(SKOPJE)
MACEDONIA IS GREEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are a pseudo-nation.You have not disappeared yet because we conserve you.You have something to fight. Your whole theory is based in untrue evidence.
But when a country lays claim to an ancestry that it does not have, and aggressively makes claims that are based on an invented myth, this is bound to sour the potentially productive relationship that could be developed with its southern neighbour. If you are naked, it does not give you the right to steal someone else´s clothes.
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By Professor John Melville-Jones
Professor John Melville-Jones is a Winthrop Professor in Classics & Ancient History at the University of Western Australia.
@MAlexandros1 Professor, how much money did Greeks put in your pockets? BULLSHIT. MAKEDONIA FOR MAKEDONIANS not greeks not bulgarians not serbs but MAKEDONIANS.
the population of the newly constituted Macedonia had nothing in common with the ancient Macedonians,
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After the Second World War, although the population of the newly constituted Macedonia had nothing in common with the ancient Macedonians, their sharing of the name was used as an excuse for them to begin to appropriate the history of their southern neighbours, and to imply that they were the rightful heirs to the great achievements of Philip II and Alexander III.
The language of the new republic (more Serbian in the west, more Bulgarian in the east) was reformulated in order to create a ´Macedonian´ language which, it was claimed, had always existed. A specifically ´Macedonian´ mythical history was created, borrowing where necessary (for instance, the Bulgarian Czar Samuel was made a Macedonian).
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By Professor John Melville-Jones
Professor John Melville-Jones is a Winthrop Professor in Classics & Ancient History at the University of Western Australia.
It will be difficult, if not impossible, to eradicate the myth, since it is a matter of (brainwased) faith, not reason, and faith can rarely be altered. In addition, if the inhabitants of North Macedonia cannot hang on to this invented association with the Macedonians of antiquity, what sort of identity is left for them?
The Myth of Modern Macedonia – inventing an identity
05 / 05 / 2011
if the inhabitants of North Macedonia cannot hang on to this invented association with the Macedonians of antiquity, what sort of identity is left for them? They will be naked indeed.
The title of the autobiography of their former President, Kiro Gligorov, ´Macedonia is all that we have´,is very true.
By Professor John Melville-Jones is a Winthrop Professor in Classics & Ancient History at the University of Western Australia.
вие сте толкова македонци колкото африканеца е китаец Македонците са мъртви хора само бог знае какво сте //you are so Macedonians as African is Chinese Macedonians are dead people only god knows what you are//
@MAlexandros1 When the one you quote was part of the Government, he defended the Macedonian positions, and also said that we should not accept something that offends the identity of the MACEDONIAN PEOPLE. Keep quoting him hahah. ;)
With a record-breaking unemployment rate of 37%, the citizens of FYROM, like the former East Germans before the fall of communism, massively 'vote with their feet' by acquiring Bulgarian citizenship and migrating to Bulgaria and the EU. As recently noted by French newspaper Le Figaro, three quarters of the population of FYROM (or approximately 1.4 million citizens) are of Bulgarian origin and speak a language which in essence is a Bulgarian dialect.
for the one's do not like to be braiwashed see this video - part 4- with - part 5 - too but my advice is to see them all and try to understand. theDon't let a few idios use you for their personal gain. They make money from books ect ect and get shit.
@MACED0NN - u are muslim albanians (30%), - serbs,bulgarians,- 200.000 greeks live in FYROM today, do the numbers,a country of 2.5million have all these nationalites,who are the real macedonians that you claim to be?...a couple of thousand ?...haha,your "country" is a shithole,stupid how u call yr selves macedonians since u R bulgarian too,
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
If FYROM ulta-nationalists were really interested in the truth, they would not deny their own ethnic Bulgarian roots. Pure losers ashamed of their own heritage.
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
Macedonians spoken Greek,believed to the gods of Olymbus,Alexander believed he was son of Zeus and he was wearing lion skin just like Hercules,their names are Greek,he partisipate in Olymbic games that ONLY GREEKS can do that,architecture & art were similar with the Greeks city-states,he took with him scientists till India and spread Hellenism civilaziation,star of Vergina symbolize Greek gods and the elements,Greek coins,letters,mythology,Alexander's teacher was Aristotle.
Поздрави на всички в Българска Македония. Не забравяйте, че Сърбия не желае Македония да стане пълноправен член на ЕС и чрез петата си колона - сръбските заселници и югокомунистическата олигархия прави всичко възможно да държи родината ни извън Обединена Европа !!! Борбата с тези боклуци трябва да е първостепенна задача за всеки гражданин на Република Македония през 2011 г. !
@deedeegr100 You will be wiped from the face of this earth gypsies. Turkey , Macedonia and Albania will divide you and sell your mums to pay the debt you owe EU
@fkdgreeks LOL first of all you are not macedonia..you are monkeydonia. Second, the albanians will take over your land soon..they are more than you LOLOVSKI and third...the politicians of turkey say " WE RECOGNISED MACEDONIA AND ITS 1000 YEARS HISTORY!" lolovski! let me remind you that alexander the great was not born 1000 years ago..these turks are smart..they know how to fool stupid puppies like Fyromistan and make them their BITCHES.. because this is what you are ;-)))
Krste Crvenkovski (President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia) to Todor Zhivkov (First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria) – May 19, 1967 said:
“And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”
О, неразумни юроде! Поради что се срамиш да се наречиш Болгарин?...Или не са имали Болгаре царство и господарство? Ти, Болгарино, не прелщайся, знай свой род и язик..."
MONKEYDONIANS.. GOOD NEW FOR U ALL the trouth about u is here bellow youtube.com/watch?v=HAc9nuzzJ6k youtube.com/watch?v=4TW5Mr8HwyQ youtube.com/watch?v=aZvbQXYvJ_A youtube.com/watch?v=eEbHl3TkH4w youtube.com/watch?v=g47JUpW0KQ0 youtube.com/watch?v=n4g-7Mf7Q5w FYROMians....GET A LIFE!!!... a REAL life with a IDENTITY that is YOURS!!!
can you please tell me the meaning of the names Alexander (Alexandros=ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ), Philip (Philippos=ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ) and Thessaloniki (=ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗ)in the language of the so called Republic of "Macedonia"?
@paramithis1 u are 1 stupid greek( there are a lot as u). macedonian language is not same as greek, also the ancient macedonian was different than greek.(there are proves in the archaeology).
@thimios41 If he spoke Hellass does not mean he is greek idiot. So everyone who speaks English or writes something in English must be British. He was educated in the Hellass language because his father was a King and Greek was the most used language back then. Macedonians were barbarians not all educated. Even in todays era Kings and queens send their chilldren to England to get educations. Why then did he first slaughter 10,000 of you ? Because he hated hellasses. Your brain is so tiny
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you... " Alexander to Persians
@MrStavrosvaroud Λαζοί λέγονται οι πρόσφυγες Ελληνες που ήλθαν από τα μέρη του Καυκάσου, κατά την ανταλλαγή των πληθυσμών μετά την Μικρασιατική καταστροφή"
Νέα Παιδική και Σχολική Εγκυκλοπαίδεια, έκδοση 1966, τόμος Δ΄, σελ. 242
For all the Greeks out there claiming that "Macedonia is Greek".
It is well known that a "Greek State" never existed before 1829. The Ancient City states were conquered by Philip II, king of Macedonia, in 338 BC. And they were never united into a single nation until the creation of the Greek Kingdom in 1832.
Was it not the Macedonians who conquered the Ancient States? How then can ancient Macedonia be Greek?
Even if the Slavs are there for ages and the "Macedonians" you refer to are 2 digit years on that space? Then that is not liberation call but call for genocide. Shame on you.
When you learn how to speak the language that macedonians spoke since ancient times, maybe you manage to persuade even yourself that you are macedonians.
As long as you cannot read what is written in the graves of macedonians you will never be like them.
@filipbozinovski No you are either Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian or Albanian who lives in the Vardarska Macedonia region. You are macedonian only on regional principle, but not nationality, there is NO macedonian nation, well you try to create one stealing all neighbors history.
Even if he said he is? Then what is a relevant factor to decide. There are millions who declare they are Macedonians, in Macedonia, Pirin Macedonia and Egey Macedonia, and other parts of the world. If you chose not to respect that you do not deserve respect to for your own beliefs or feelings. Can you not see that world has gone very far and left you behind in the dark age denying somebody's identity. Progress, free your mind.
You FYROM citizens live in a part of ancient macedonia,you have many origins as all countries in the area,prominent one is Slavic,you speak the same language with bulgarian,croatian,serbs and all other slavic branch nations.Macedonians speak greek.Define that your country has 3/4 Slavic speaking Christian orthodox and 1/4 albanian speaking muslims.then you can also use the geographic term macedonia,otherwise you are a threat to Greeks.Your map includes parts of my country,wanna die trying?
It's true that part of Macedonia (Aegean Macedonia) is occupied by Greece but the Aegean part is not the only part of Macedonia! Macedonia for the Macedonians!
As Greece has grown and become Macedonia in one day.
August 10, 1913.
Increased the area of Greece from 25,014 to 41,933 square miles and her population from 2,660,000 to 4,363,000. The territory thus annexed included Epirus, southern Macedonia, Salonika, Kavala, and the Aegean littoral.
Samo jedno logicno pitanje.Stara anticka Makedonija,koja je bila Severna Grcka provincija,je imala veci broj stanovnika jos u to vreme nego danas svih makedonaca sto ima zajedno.Logicno bi bilo da nakon 3000godina kako vi kazete slavne istorije,da vas ima bar 100 000 000.Nemoguce da se populacija nije povecala bar za desetostruko i pored svih ratova i godina pod ropstvom Rima,Vizantije,Srbije i Turske.Naprotiv cak vas je manje nego od pre 3000god.Ajde molim vas da se nezajebavamo,nismo deca.
How do you explain the fact that in front of your government building in Skopje you have a stone bearing ancient Macedonian letters which in fact they are ancient Greek . In the stone it is written in ancient Macedonian (Greek):
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΡΧΩΝ ΤΩΝ ΝΑΩΝ ΤΗ ΠΑΤΡΙΔΙ ΣΥΝ ΠΑΝΤΙ ΤΩ ΚΟΣΜΩ ΤΩ ΘΚΤ' ΕΤΕΙ
Can you read or translate that since you claim that you are Macedonian.
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzz2002 Allora che cazzo si sa?Perche' non lo dici anche a me cosi ne confrontiamo i dati?E poi se ti riferisci ai Greci,perche minchia non lo scrivi in greco?Pagliaccio caggasotto.
The Standing Committee of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) adopted Friday in Paris a Resolution on Protection of Minority Rights, which calls on Greece to sign the Convention for Protection of the National Minorities and recognize the Macedonian minority.
@FoVable Greece first appears on a world map in 1869 ,go to a museum once and see for yourself you uneducated goat herder. You dum shits really want to believe your own crap. Alexander slaughtered 10,000 from thebes and athens on his first quest to destroy you. Now you want to claim him as your own. WOW its like jews being proud of what Hitler did. Athenian writings called his father Phillip a Macedonian Barbarian . If you actually learn to read you will be shocked at the truth.
@fkdgreeks thanks to you i learn to read. Thanks. You open my eyes and look what i found thanks to you: 1. Ηρόδοτου ιστορία Η΄ 43. 2. Ηροδότου ιστορία Ε΄ 22. 3. Ηροδότου ιστορία Η΄ 137-138. 4. Ηροδότου ιστορία Θ΄ 45, 2. 5. Ηροδότου ιστορία, Ε΄ 6. 6. Αρριανού, Αλεξάνδρου Ανάβασις A΄, 2. 7. Παυσανία Φωκικά Η 2 και 4. 8. Αρριανού, Αλεξάνδρου Ανάβασις A΄, 2. 9. Αρριανού, Αλεξάνδρου Ανάβασις Α΄, 5, 7 10. Aρριανού, Αλεξάνδρου Ανάβασις Α, 16, 7.
16. «Καίτοι γε πολλώ σεμνότερον ην και δικαιότερον και τη περί της Ελλάδας υπόθεσει τα πεπεραγμένα Φιλίππω συμπεριλαβείν ήπερ εν τη Φιλίππου τα της Ελλάδας» (Πολυβίου ιστορία Η΄ 11 και 13, 4).
@fkdgreeks Alexanders army did slaughter 10 000+ thebes and Athenians BUT all of the city states were at war with each other. The common thing between all of the city states was their language, religion, morales and culture and this is what united greece.
please exlaine for us what tha letters in name filippos means(in mackedonic please...lele maiko...nema!!!)
ΦΙΛΟΣ ΑΛΟΓΩΝ !
now go open a dictionary to find it out!
and when "great nation of macedonia" comes tru then please teach all the macedonians your ancient macedonian language so we all live together like macedonian brothers with same blood!
come on you still have time to create also an ancient macedonian language!!!
hey gayreek fag you should find a life than a history couse you re just a gypsys and noting more go and dig history if you have one or dig graves for your fagot nation on wich i piss on
And I SHIT on your artificial nation of Lego enthusiasts. You're bigger gypsies than the gypsies themselves, always looking out to steal what isn't yours. Macedonia is GREEK. Find your own name.
what have we steal from you ????? the aegean was ocupied from you, steal in 1913 dumb fuck idot whitout brain skrew you and your all faggot thief nation
how can we steal someting from you what isnt yours we were MACEDONIA WE ARE MACEDONIA AND WE WILL BE MACEDONIA
and just for change once you can think with your heads not with your asses explain how did you get the aegean or you havent learnd that part of history
as the acient historical wiliam glasgov said MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS so i can say keep dreaming that this holly name will be yours someday couse ONLY THE SUN IS OLDER THAN MACEDONIA
Keep going; your hysterical rants simply confirm the veracity of my thesis. You are barbarous peasants with no right whatsoever to the Macedonian heritage. Macedonia is Greek, not Slavic. Find your own name.
if you didnt know the acient MACEDONS were barbarians and we are not slavs dumb bustard we are here with centyres not like you camed from central azia broth from the turks in the middle centyry
you realy should read the bible it doesent say gayreece nowere it says st. paule camed in macedonia to spred the cristian religion
so know you can fuck yourself and all your fag nation
In the spirit of the ancient Hellenic Olympic Truce, I propose that we cease all hostilities for the duration of the Olympic Games being held in Vancouver.
the acient gayreeks died long time ago couse they were all fags and you are broth from central azia known as kurds as turkish slaves not so long time ago so fuck off and dont tell us who we are couse you dont know who you are dumb fuck fags from gayreece
Wrong. You are of the same mixed Turkic Bulgar and Slavic stock as the Bulgarians. In fact, you were the same people until Communist Yugoslavia declared otherwise in 1944.
As for the "African gypsy" slur, it only shows how racist you lot are. What makes you think you're better than the Africans or Roma? You're not.
"Using results from the analysis of a single marker, particularly one likely to have undergone selection, for the purpose of reconstructing genealogies is unreliable and unacceptable practice in population genetics", making specific allusion to the findings on Greeks (among others) as "anomalous results, which contradict history, geography, anthropology and all prior population-genetic studies of these groups."
Other authors contradict Arnaiz-Villena's results. In The History and Geography of Human Genes (Princeton, 1994), Cavalli-Sforza, Menozzi and Piazza grouped Greeks with other European and Mediterranean populations based on 120 loci. Then, Ayub et al. 2003 did the same thing using 182 loci.
In a sample of 125 Greeks from Thessaloniki, including Sarakatsani, 2 Asian-specific mtDNA sequences (M and D) were detected (1.6%). No sub-Saharan African genes were observed in this population, therefore, non-Caucasoid maternal ancestry in Greece is very low, as elsewhere in Europe.
Additionally, in a sample of 366 Greeks from thirteen locations in continental Greece, Crete, Lesvos and Chios, a single African haplogroup A Y Chromosome was found (0.3%). This marks the only instance to date of sub-Saharan DNA being discovered in Greece.
In another sample of 42 Greeks, one sequence of the Siberian Tat-C haplogroup turned up, while other studies with larger sample populations have failed to detect this paternal marker in the Greek gene pool and that its frequencies are actually much higher in Scandinavian and Slavic populations.
Also, a paper has detected clades of haplogroups J and E3b that were likely not part of pre-historic migrations into Europe, but rather spread by later historical movements. Greeks possess none of the lineages denoting North African ancestry within the last 5000 years and have only 2% (3/148) of the marker J-M267, which may reflect more recent Middle Eastern admixture.
Another study was conducted in 2004 at Skopje's University of Ss. Kiril and Metodij, using high-resolution typing of HLA-DRB1 according to Arnaiz-Villena's methodology. Contrary to Arnaiz-Villena's conclusion, no sub-Saharan admixture was detected in the Greek sample. LOL! Are you disputing your own Skopjan scientists now?
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Macedonia1ful 1 month ago
I am an alienVSKI and I came from MarsVSKI. HO-HOvski.
gampcptn 1 month ago
U JELLY Gayladians?
TheQuickBones 2 months ago
SLAVA MAKEDONII <3
69tedua 3 months ago
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"We are Slavs who came here in 6th century A.D"-Kiro Gligorof
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FYROM = GYPSIES
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Macedonians are Greeks!
Fyromians are Bulgarians!
MAlexandros1 3 months ago
Защо македонците говорят бъкгарски тогава?
hamanbair 4 months ago
Macedonia is Greece!
FYROM is Bulgaria!
Macedonians are Greeks!
Fyromians are Bulgarians!
"We are Slavs who came here in 6th century A.D"-Kiro Gligorof
"Alexander fought as Greek"-Georgiefski
Accept the truth!
MacedoniaHellen 4 months ago 7
FYROM = GYPSIES
MAlexandros1 5 months ago
@MAlexandros1 GREECE - BANKRUPT SHITHOLE!! HAHAHA! TRY WORKING FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE, GREEK CUNT?? INSTEAD YOU EXPECT GERMANY TO PAY YOUR BILLS?! CUNT!
MoscowMaestro 3 months ago
FYROM = GYPSIES.
MAlexandros1 5 months ago
FYROM = Asian Turkic tribe...same as OTTOs the dirty ANALtolian!!!
ratzP 6 months ago
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I am a Greek but i will try to be logic....
And i will try to face you with a simple question....
As the whole history says( not only greek). You are Slavic people and slavic people move to Balkans at 6th century... so you cannot be the same macedonians who reach india and conquer the whole persian empire...
You move in the period of Byzantine Empire. In this territory in the period of Alexander the Great they lived greek tribes like Molossian and Paeonians...
GeorgeChali95 7 months ago
egw ena aporw.....pws mporei na xwresei tosi polli malakia se ena toso mikro topo......
fan4fun4ever 7 months ago
AN ΞΕΡΕΤΕ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΤΟΤΕ ΘΑ ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΕΤΕ ΑΥΤΟ ΠΟΥ ΘΑ ΠΩ
ΘΑ ΜΑΣ ΚΛΑΣΕΤΕ ΜΙΑ ΜΑΝΤΡΑ ΑΡΧΙΔΙΑ
ΠΟΛΛΟΙ ΛΑΟΙ ΘΕΛΗΣΑΝ ΝΑ ΤΑΥΤΟΠΟΙΗΘΟΥΝ ΜΕ ΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΝΙΑ (ΕΛΛΑΔΑ) ΑΛΛΑ ΔΕΝ ΤΑ ΚΑΤΑΦΕΡΑΝ
ΚΑΙ ΞΕΡΕΤΕ ΓΙΑΤΙ
ΓΙΑΤΙ ΣΑΝ ΕΜΑΣ ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ ΠΟΥΘΕΝΑ ΦΥΛΗ
ΚΥΡΙΟΙ ΒΑΡΝΤΑΣΚΕΟΙ.
ΧΑΧΑΧΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΧΑΧΑΧΑ
ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΓΙΝΕΙΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΠΟΤΕ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΕ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΕ
charlaki1 7 months ago
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(how fyrom people think) if you take them and put them in the shit they will think geniusly that we are shit!!!!! and he will paid to give them back all the shit to his shitland!!!!! FUCK YOU fyrom(SKOPJE)
MACEDONIA IS GREEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jimmykouf 8 months ago
You are a pseudo-nation.You have not disappeared yet because we conserve you.You have something to fight. Your whole theory is based in untrue evidence.
greatjoka 8 months ago
we r now witnessing the RE-birth of the ottoman empire in FYROM !!
the Turks with Arab money and fundamentalist muslim clerics r busy
building hundreds&hundreads of mosques and so called educational
centers even where there r only a handful of muslims!!!viva FYROMistan
ratzP 8 months ago
But when a country lays claim to an ancestry that it does not have, and aggressively makes claims that are based on an invented myth, this is bound to sour the potentially productive relationship that could be developed with its southern neighbour. If you are naked, it does not give you the right to steal someone else´s clothes.
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By Professor John Melville-Jones
Professor John Melville-Jones is a Winthrop Professor in Classics & Ancient History at the University of Western Australia.
MAlexandros1 8 months ago 14
@MAlexandros1 Professor, how much money did Greeks put in your pockets? BULLSHIT. MAKEDONIA FOR MAKEDONIANS not greeks not bulgarians not serbs but MAKEDONIANS.
ellenofag 6 months ago
@ellenofag yeeeeeeee MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS GRRR
ratzP 6 months ago
@ellenofag
How much money does G. Soros really pay you for commercials and statues ?
And why your country is a part of Slavic Union while Macedonians weren't Slavs ? Interesting !!!!
Georgios763 6 months ago
the population of the newly constituted Macedonia had nothing in common with the ancient Macedonians,
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After the Second World War, although the population of the newly constituted Macedonia had nothing in common with the ancient Macedonians, their sharing of the name was used as an excuse for them to begin to appropriate the history of their southern neighbours, and to imply that they were the rightful heirs to the great achievements of Philip II and Alexander III.
MAlexandros1 8 months ago
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The language of the new republic (more Serbian in the west, more Bulgarian in the east) was reformulated in order to create a ´Macedonian´ language which, it was claimed, had always existed. A specifically ´Macedonian´ mythical history was created, borrowing where necessary (for instance, the Bulgarian Czar Samuel was made a Macedonian).
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By Professor John Melville-Jones
Professor John Melville-Jones is a Winthrop Professor in Classics & Ancient History at the University of Western Australia.
MAlexandros1 8 months ago 10
It will be difficult, if not impossible, to eradicate the myth, since it is a matter of (brainwased) faith, not reason, and faith can rarely be altered. In addition, if the inhabitants of North Macedonia cannot hang on to this invented association with the Macedonians of antiquity, what sort of identity is left for them?
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MAlexandros1 8 months ago
The Myth of Modern Macedonia – inventing an identity
05 / 05 / 2011
if the inhabitants of North Macedonia cannot hang on to this invented association with the Macedonians of antiquity, what sort of identity is left for them? They will be naked indeed.
The title of the autobiography of their former President, Kiro Gligorov, ´Macedonia is all that we have´,is very true.
By Professor John Melville-Jones is a Winthrop Professor in Classics & Ancient History at the University of Western Australia.
MAlexandros1 8 months ago
raca4ever нема ми казваш какво да правя
martinlisitsata 9 months ago
вие сте толкова македонци колкото африканеца е китаец Македонците са мъртви хора само бог знае какво сте //you are so Macedonians as African is Chinese Macedonians are dead people only god knows what you are//
martinlisitsata 9 months ago
@martinlisitsata TIHO BE TATAR EDEN MAMKATA DA TI JA EBAM BUGARSKA
raca4ever 9 months ago
Dear history-less mongols,
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"If their (FYR, Slavs) most recent (fake) history is removed, they will identify themselves as either Bulgarians or Serbs", he said.
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Menduh Thaci, leader of the DPA,
MAlexandros1 11 months ago 2
@MAlexandros1 When the one you quote was part of the Government, he defended the Macedonian positions, and also said that we should not accept something that offends the identity of the MACEDONIAN PEOPLE. Keep quoting him hahah. ;)
macedonian89 9 months ago
For over 2000 years thereafter, there has not been even one documented reference claiming an ethnic Macedonian identity.
During 2046 years of recorded history, i.e. from 168 B.C. up until 1878 A.D.,
there is no evidence of the existence of a Macedonian ethnic consciousness.
There is no evidence of the existence of a Macedonian language
FYROmonkey1 11 months ago
“From a strictly linguistic point of view Macedonian can be called a Bulgarian dialect,
as structurally it is most similar to Bulgarian.
— Encyclopedia of Language and Linguistics (1994)
FYROmonkey1 11 months ago 2
Хахахаах ФИРОМ-ите направо могат да побъркат човек от смях.
Kpacupl 11 months ago
With a record-breaking unemployment rate of 37%, the citizens of FYROM, like the former East Germans before the fall of communism, massively 'vote with their feet' by acquiring Bulgarian citizenship and migrating to Bulgaria and the EU. As recently noted by French newspaper Le Figaro, three quarters of the population of FYROM (or approximately 1.4 million citizens) are of Bulgarian origin and speak a language which in essence is a Bulgarian dialect.
trisnna9801 11 months ago 2
Denko Maleski, first Minister of foreign affairs of FYROM (1991 to 1993) and ambassador to the United Nations from 1993 to 1997,
.....
So since you made us invent a history, we invented it!
You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendants of Alexander the Great!
in an interview to Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006
FYROmonkey1 1 year ago
HISTORY LESSON
FYROM
IS NOT MASEDONIA!
.
(FYROM is part of SERBIA)...(MACEDONIA IS IN GREECE:)
GrowUPist 1 year ago
Now all Slavs gypsies say with me ...
WE ARE SLAVS WE ARE SLAV_GYPSIES...
LEFT_OVERS...THAT WHAT WE ARE !
made in USA.. by BUSHit !
LOLOLOL
GrowUPist 1 year ago
/watch?v=7mVb9S5dHgc
for the one's do not like to be braiwashed see this video - part 4- with - part 5 - too but my advice is to see them all and try to understand. theDon't let a few idios use you for their personal gain. They make money from books ect ect and get shit.
they don't care for you lot.
FACT.
GrowUPist 1 year ago
@MACED0NN - u are muslim albanians (30%), - serbs,bulgarians,- 200.000 greeks live in FYROM today, do the numbers,a country of 2.5million have all these nationalites,who are the real macedonians that you claim to be?...a couple of thousand ?...haha,your "country" is a shithole,stupid how u call yr selves macedonians since u R bulgarian too,
...
" i am macedonian" .....MADE IN U.S.A
!
GrowUPist 1 year ago
As you can see from this too...
Kiro Gligorov 1st President
we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" we are Slav .
That's who we are!
We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.
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today they (slvavs) still have 25% our our land and they still no happy, now they want our history.
remember they are left over slav_gypsies and always will be
!
GrowUPist 1 year ago
Truth is logical information based upon facts & reality, which distinguishes between rational & flawed argumentation.
GrowUPist 1 year ago
Read The Latest News... F.Y.R.O.M today... Science ...2000.
"Fyr slavs skeletons" may belong to an unknown human ancestor | Science ...2000.
GrowUPist 1 year ago
Александър Македонски е грък, бе боклуци!!! А вие сте БЪЛГАРИ, които се отричат от родината си!!!! НИЕ СЪЩО ЩЕ СЕ ОТРЕЧЕМ ОТ ВАС БОКЛУЦИ
maximpld 1 year ago
Krste Misirkov, 1903,
"our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
GrowUPist 1 year ago
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new year more fun...lololol
Pure losers ashamed of their own heritage.
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
GrowUPist 1 year ago
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Pure losers ashamed of their own heritage.
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
GrowUPist 1 year ago
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If FYROM ulta-nationalists were really interested in the truth, they would not deny their own ethnic Bulgarian roots. Pure losers ashamed of their own heritage.
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
GrowUPist 1 year ago
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and you actually belive you are Macedonians?ancient Macedonia is a part of your county's history?think again brainwashed retards
Brainiz619Enigma 1 year ago
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Macedonians spoken Greek,believed to the gods of Olymbus,Alexander believed he was son of Zeus and he was wearing lion skin just like Hercules,their names are Greek,he partisipate in Olymbic games that ONLY GREEKS can do that,architecture & art were similar with the Greeks city-states,he took with him scientists till India and spread Hellenism civilaziation,star of Vergina symbolize Greek gods and the elements,Greek coins,letters,mythology,Alexander's teacher was Aristotle.
Brainiz619Enigma 1 year ago
will be 2013
zlatanovski11 1 year ago
will be 2013 !!!
zlatanovski11 1 year ago
Ребята, да никогда вы не получите греческую Македонию. Вы смотрите, чтоб вас Греки, Болгары и Сербы, не разделили на кусочки.
JojeeeK 1 year ago
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Поздрави на всички в Българска Македония. Не забравяйте, че Сърбия не желае Македония да стане пълноправен член на ЕС и чрез петата си колона - сръбските заселници и югокомунистическата олигархия прави всичко възможно да държи родината ни извън Обединена Европа !!! Борбата с тези боклуци трябва да е първостепенна задача за всеки гражданин на Република Македония през 2011 г. !
advfk 1 year ago
FUCK ALL GREEK FAGOTS FUCK GREECE (SOUTH MACEDONIA)
UNITED MACEDONIA
Specialec81 1 year ago
yes sir, Kiro Gligorov - "we are slavs" .....no more to say...
lol
trustmeyou2needhelp 1 year ago
the only thing you can unite is your ass because we tear it apart all the time; FUCK VARDASKA MACEDONIA=GREECE
deedeegr100 1 year ago
@deedeegr100 You will be wiped from the face of this earth gypsies. Turkey , Macedonia and Albania will divide you and sell your mums to pay the debt you owe EU
fkdgreeks 1 year ago
@fkdgreeks LOL first of all you are not macedonia..you are monkeydonia. Second, the albanians will take over your land soon..they are more than you LOLOVSKI and third...the politicians of turkey say " WE RECOGNISED MACEDONIA AND ITS 1000 YEARS HISTORY!" lolovski! let me remind you that alexander the great was not born 1000 years ago..these turks are smart..they know how to fool stupid puppies like Fyromistan and make them their BITCHES.. because this is what you are ;-)))
deedeegr100 1 year ago
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Krste Crvenkovski (President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia) to Todor Zhivkov (First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria) – May 19, 1967 said:
“And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”
greekphalanx 1 year ago
MACEDONIA FOREVER !!!!!!
AzaxSyndrome1 1 year ago
Im waiting Comments about this: youtube.com/watch?v=oXZoUs3ofaQ
criozonic 1 year ago
Proud to be Macedonian, all other shits (Bulgarian, Greek, Albanian) are worthless.
Long live Macedonia and the Macedonian people !!!
SuperGoce 1 year ago
@SuperGoce But you are Bulgarian ;)
Ioannis05 1 year ago
..FOR ANYONE WHO IS NOT A GREEK OR SCOPIAN..
search on youtube : GLIGOROF WE ARE SLAVS
AND SEE A SCOPIAN PRESIDENT TO SAY THE TRUTH
pazarimen2 1 year ago
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MaSSedonia= Fakedonia= Fyromistan =Titoclonia = Monkeydonia = Magaydonija= Maradonia= Matsedonkija = Titostan = Vardarska Bananovina= MyAssedonia
velzevulable 1 year ago
О, неразумни юроде! Поради что се срамиш да се наречиш Болгарин?...Или не са имали Болгаре царство и господарство? Ти, Болгарино, не прелщайся, знай свой род и язик..."
Паисий (1762)
tufituri 1 year ago
kostasdania 1 year ago
MACEDONIA IS GREEK /HELLENIC
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
can you please tell me the meaning of the names Alexander (Alexandros=ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ), Philip (Philippos=ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ) and Thessaloniki (=ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗ)in the language of the so called Republic of "Macedonia"?
thank you very much.
vetdino 1 year ago
Can any of the fake Macedonians who speak Serbian language tell us what they read at the Macedonian monuments ? No ? Ok learn Greek .
G3A3S3 1 year ago
You dont know to speak HELLENIC language you stupid!!!!!!!!!
Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΗΤΑΝ,ΕΙΝΑΙ,Κ ΘΑ ΜΕΙΝΕΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ.
Α Ρ Κ Ο Υ Δ Ι Α Ρ Α Ι Ο Ι , Α Α Ρ Κ Ο Υ Δ Ι Α Ρ Α Ι Ο Ι !!!
paramithis1 1 year ago
@paramithis1 u are 1 stupid greek( there are a lot as u). macedonian language is not same as greek, also the ancient macedonian was different than greek.(there are proves in the archaeology).
1heart3MCD 1 year ago
@1heart3MCD what proofs???? r u insane????? evry archeologichal artifact of Alexanders era,and not only,is written in greek.....
thimios41 1 year ago
@thimios41 If he spoke Hellass does not mean he is greek idiot. So everyone who speaks English or writes something in English must be British. He was educated in the Hellass language because his father was a King and Greek was the most used language back then. Macedonians were barbarians not all educated. Even in todays era Kings and queens send their chilldren to England to get educations. Why then did he first slaughter 10,000 of you ? Because he hated hellasses. Your brain is so tiny
fkdgreeks 1 year ago
@fkdgreeks theres a concept that we use to call civil war u fagat monkeydonian,.....
go and check some serious history books.....not ur shitty false books.....
thimios41 1 year ago
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UNITED MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vikdon1 1 year ago
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the question of u being makednoi is answered by:
Kiro Gligorov - The Macedonian Truth (03 06 1992). look for it here on youtube and move on!!!
kostasdania 1 year ago
u are what? u dont even speak makedonians language , yes they was speaking greeks idiot u know about that? ---> sou gamw tn voulgara mana.!
stefasWQ16 1 year ago
бъди горд Македонец но не отричай че си Българин
tufituri 1 year ago
Da mi go jades kurot MAKEDONSKI !!!!!!
KinezMKD 1 year ago
@tufituri - FALA MU NA ZLATEN GOSPOD, nie Makedoncite nemame nishto zaednichko so toa Bulgar azisko pleme !
BERZITI 1 year ago
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"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you... " Alexander to Persians
idizzzful 1 year ago
SLAV
MrStavrosvaroud 1 year ago
! tourkoguftos/
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istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify sostos
MrStavrosvaroud 1 year ago
@MrStavrosvaroud Λαζοί λέγονται οι πρόσφυγες Ελληνες που ήλθαν από τα μέρη του Καυκάσου, κατά την ανταλλαγή των πληθυσμών μετά την Μικρασιατική καταστροφή"
Νέα Παιδική και Σχολική Εγκυκλοπαίδεια, έκδοση 1966, τόμος Δ΄, σελ. 242
istoriify 1 year ago
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For all the Greeks out there claiming that "Macedonia is Greek".
It is well known that a "Greek State" never existed before 1829. The Ancient City states were conquered by Philip II, king of Macedonia, in 338 BC. And they were never united into a single nation until the creation of the Greek Kingdom in 1832.
Was it not the Macedonians who conquered the Ancient States? How then can ancient Macedonia be Greek?
DirtyCodingHabitz 1 year ago
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DirtyCodingHabitz 1 year ago
YES Macedonia to the Macedonians. LIBERATE Northern Macedonia from slavs NOW. Macedonia is GREECE.
Bender822 1 year ago
@Bender822
Even if the Slavs are there for ages and the "Macedonians" you refer to are 2 digit years on that space? Then that is not liberation call but call for genocide. Shame on you.
sakshama 1 year ago
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@sakshama
hellos slavs. follow this title on utube if you wanna know who you realy are:
Kiro Gligorov - "we are slavs"
FoVable 1 year ago
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this video will clear up all the historical issues
watch?v=EC937xQPKNM
CornFedArmen 1 year ago
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this video will clear up all the historical issues
watch?v=EC937xQPKNM
CornFedArmen 1 year ago
When you learn how to speak the language that macedonians spoke since ancient times, maybe you manage to persuade even yourself that you are macedonians.
As long as you cannot read what is written in the graves of macedonians you will never be like them.
PrincessKonstantina 1 year ago
Macedonia has nothing to do with Vardarska, which is actually western Bulgaria
ArvaniteLegacy 1 year ago
Fuck greece...Im Macedonian and nobody can change that fact! United Macedonia forever!!
filipbozinovski 1 year ago
@filipbozinovski No you are either Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian or Albanian who lives in the Vardarska Macedonia region. You are macedonian only on regional principle, but not nationality, there is NO macedonian nation, well you try to create one stealing all neighbors history.
Macedonian=world wide clowns !
DSetekh 1 year ago
@DSetekh
Even if he said he is? Then what is a relevant factor to decide. There are millions who declare they are Macedonians, in Macedonia, Pirin Macedonia and Egey Macedonia, and other parts of the world. If you chose not to respect that you do not deserve respect to for your own beliefs or feelings. Can you not see that world has gone very far and left you behind in the dark age denying somebody's identity. Progress, free your mind.
sakshama 1 year ago
Good is watching over Macedonia
FREEDOM
Europe Union was watching this and guess what ?
They turn blind and deaf
BLIND AND DEAF EU
BLIND AND DEAF EU
BLIND AND DEAF EU
BLIND AND DEAF EU
PaunBTMakedonski 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski Not exactly the old Yugo-communist are still watching over Macedonia :)
DSetekh 1 year ago
You are a Slavs.
You speak Slavic.
You come from Vardar.
None can change that.
You are hysteric psychos.
PPOLL01 1 year ago
Change the video's title into something like "I am Stupid". It will be more fitting!!!
ToaRaptian 1 year ago
You FYROM citizens live in a part of ancient macedonia,you have many origins as all countries in the area,prominent one is Slavic,you speak the same language with bulgarian,croatian,serbs and all other slavic branch nations.Macedonians speak greek.Define that your country has 3/4 Slavic speaking Christian orthodox and 1/4 albanian speaking muslims.then you can also use the geographic term macedonia,otherwise you are a threat to Greeks.Your map includes parts of my country,wanna die trying?
jhngr 1 year ago
Јас сум Македонец, Македонец се пичува со голема буква а не со мала! :)
Поправи го насовот!
forevermkd 1 year ago
macedonia is GREEK.
originalhellas 1 year ago
@originalhellas
It's true that part of Macedonia (Aegean Macedonia) is occupied by Greece but the Aegean part is not the only part of Macedonia! Macedonia for the Macedonians!
forevermkd 1 year ago
@forevermkd Macedonias had the greek languege, the same culture with us. and not only the ... "aegean macedonians"
originalhellas 1 year ago
@originalhellas
The language of the Ancient Macedonians has no connection with the geographical term Macedonia.
forevermkd 1 year ago
@originalhellas
As Greece has grown and become Macedonia in one day.
August 10, 1913.
Increased the area of Greece from 25,014 to 41,933 square miles and her population from 2,660,000 to 4,363,000. The territory thus annexed included Epirus, southern Macedonia, Salonika, Kavala, and the Aegean littoral.
DedoNaum 1 year ago
Samo jedno logicno pitanje.Stara anticka Makedonija,koja je bila Severna Grcka provincija,je imala veci broj stanovnika jos u to vreme nego danas svih makedonaca sto ima zajedno.Logicno bi bilo da nakon 3000godina kako vi kazete slavne istorije,da vas ima bar 100 000 000.Nemoguce da se populacija nije povecala bar za desetostruko i pored svih ratova i godina pod ropstvom Rima,Vizantije,Srbije i Turske.Naprotiv cak vas je manje nego od pre 3000god.Ajde molim vas da se nezajebavamo,nismo deca.
kenjaj 1 year ago
@Fyromanja
Lol, we all know that not even yourself can understand what is written on our government building. We where barbaric to you clowns remember!!!
bhrisrov1 1 year ago
@bhrisrov1 you where barbaric to us....but not the people of macedonia...they where greek too...
Antdim88 1 year ago
How do you explain the fact that in front of your government building in Skopje you have a stone bearing ancient Macedonian letters which in fact they are ancient Greek . In the stone it is written in ancient Macedonian (Greek):
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΡΧΩΝ ΤΩΝ ΝΑΩΝ ΤΗ ΠΑΤΡΙΔΙ ΣΥΝ ΠΑΝΤΙ ΤΩ ΚΟΣΜΩ ΤΩ ΘΚΤ' ΕΤΕΙ
Can you read or translate that since you claim that you are Macedonian.
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
makedonec do koska
bkimovski 1 year ago
born macedonian live macedonian die macedonian macedonia to macedonians
smrt za dusmani
MARKOforever100 1 year ago
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzz2002 1 year ago
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzz2002 Allora che cazzo si sa?Perche' non lo dici anche a me cosi ne confrontiamo i dati?E poi se ti riferisci ai Greci,perche minchia non lo scrivi in greco?Pagliaccio caggasotto.
Bunnypunker 1 year ago
slaven oder nicht. makedonija ist unser. was wollt ihr griechen dagegen machen!!
seht zu, dass ihr nicht eure inseln an die EU verliert, dank der Wirtschaftskriese.
hahahaha
makedonija wird sich vereinigen, ist nur eine frage der zeit und ausdauer!!
gruss aus der schweiz^^(i love makedonija)
peace
sandman1989gk 1 year ago
Well, If you're Macedonian, I'm from Mars...
geniousboyGR 1 year ago
@geniousboyGR so maybe you are like every gayreek in this world
go and fuck hellass
drumercoka 1 year ago
Well, If you're Macedonian, I'm from Mars...
geniousboyGR 1 year ago
Makedonia is Makedonia, your a Cyprian Gayreek
with Ethiopian blood. Clown
bhrisrov1 1 year ago
makedonia is greece. you are slaves!!!
thinosdrosato 1 year ago
The Standing Committee of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) adopted Friday in Paris a Resolution on Protection of Minority Rights, which calls on Greece to sign the Convention for Protection of the National Minorities and recognize the Macedonian minority.
PhilipMakedon 1 year ago
macednian SO VERBA VO BOG MAKEDONEC DO GROB
stole26ly 1 year ago
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Hey there.
Im a teacher in univercity of skopje.
I can tell you all, that under my and others teachers resurch have not found anything who can connect us to the ancient macedonians.
All thing show that Alexandar was Greek.
And no dubt about it.
Even our own Kiro Gligorov sad that.
Deformedius 1 year ago
UNITED MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kurajberot 1 year ago 12
@kurajberot YEAH SO UNITED THAT U MANAGED TO HAVE 30% ALBANIANS, LOTS O GREEKS AND BULGARIANS WITHIN UR STATE..OHAHAHAHAHHAAH
thimios41 1 year ago
@kurajberot
hellos slavs. follow this title on utube if you wanna know who you realy are:
Kiro Gligorov - "we are slavs"
FoVable 1 year ago
@FoVable Greece first appears on a world map in 1869 ,go to a museum once and see for yourself you uneducated goat herder. You dum shits really want to believe your own crap. Alexander slaughtered 10,000 from thebes and athens on his first quest to destroy you. Now you want to claim him as your own. WOW its like jews being proud of what Hitler did. Athenian writings called his father Phillip a Macedonian Barbarian . If you actually learn to read you will be shocked at the truth.
fkdgreeks 1 year ago
FoVable 1 year ago
@fkdgreeks
11. Στράβωνος Γεωγραφία αποσπάσματα Z΄, 9.
12. Ισοκράτους, Φιλιππικός, ξε΄ 154. νβ΄ 127.
13. Πολυβίου ιστορία Ε΄ 7.
14. Πολυβίου ιστορία, Θ΄ 35., 2 και 38.
15. Πολυβίου ιστορία Θ΄ 37,7.
16. «Καίτοι γε πολλώ σεμνότερον ην και δικαιότερον και τη περί της Ελλάδας υπόθεσει τα πεπεραγμένα Φιλίππω συμπεριλαβείν ήπερ εν τη Φιλίππου τα της Ελλάδας» (Πολυβίου ιστορία Η΄ 11 και 13, 4).
17. Πολυβίου ιστορία Ε΄ 103-104.
18. Πλουτάρχου, Βίοι παράλληλοι, Βίος Φλαμινίνου IA΄ 38.
FoVable 1 year ago
@fkdgreeks
19. Παυσανία, Ελλάδας Περιηγήσεις, Φωκικά 8.
20. Διοδώρου ιστορία ΣΤ΄ 95.
21. Αισχύλου Ικέτιδες στ. 250.
22. Ομήρου Ιλιάδα Π΄ στ. 287-8.
FoVable 1 year ago
@fkdgreeks Alexanders army did slaughter 10 000+ thebes and Athenians BUT all of the city states were at war with each other. The common thing between all of the city states was their language, religion, morales and culture and this is what united greece.
Spamdaspammer 1 year ago
!!!I am Macedonian!!!! Macedonia to the Macedonians!
berzit 1 year ago
FOUCK GREECE LONG LIVE MACEDONIA
qaqaaaqqq 1 year ago
We have bulgarian language in Skopjie!!!
130Z130Z 1 year ago
АМАН ОТ НЕКЪПАНИ БЪЛГАРИ!О,НЕРАЗУМНИ И ЮРОДЕ,ПОРАДИ ЧТО СЕ СРАМИШ ДА СЕ НАРЕЧЕШ БОЛГАРИН!
MrDonyuri 1 year ago
Tatar, ajde nazad vo Mongolija od kade sto dosol han Asparuh.
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!
historyofmacedonia . org
Macedon51 1 year ago
да ти сера в устенцата,гад некъпана и да ви пикая на миризливата държавица,изроди нещастни
MrDonyuri 1 year ago
please exlaine for us what tha letters in name filippos means(in mackedonic please...lele maiko...nema!!!)
ΦΙΛΟΣ ΑΛΟΓΩΝ !
now go open a dictionary to find it out!
and when "great nation of macedonia" comes tru then please teach all the macedonians your ancient macedonian language so we all live together like macedonian brothers with same blood!
come on you still have time to create also an ancient macedonian language!!!
colt9152 1 year ago
hey gayreek fag you should find a life than a history couse you re just a gypsys and noting more go and dig history if you have one or dig graves for your fagot nation on wich i piss on
kom1ta 1 year ago
And I SHIT on your artificial nation of Lego enthusiasts. You're bigger gypsies than the gypsies themselves, always looking out to steal what isn't yours. Macedonia is GREEK. Find your own name.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
what have we steal from you ????? the aegean was ocupied from you, steal in 1913 dumb fuck idot whitout brain skrew you and your all faggot thief nation
deth for gayreeks
kom1ta 1 year ago
You're looking out to steal a Greek name, Macedonia, along with its history, heritage and land. Keep dreaming, Slavo-Bulgars.
As the ancient geographer Strabo wrote, "So too Macedonia is Greece".
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
how can we steal someting from you what isnt yours we were MACEDONIA WE ARE MACEDONIA AND WE WILL BE MACEDONIA
and just for change once you can think with your heads not with your asses explain how did you get the aegean or you havent learnd that part of history
as the acient historical wiliam glasgov said MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS so i can say keep dreaming that this holly name will be yours someday couse ONLY THE SUN IS OLDER THAN MACEDONIA
fuck off turkish slaves camed from azia
kom1ta 1 year ago
Keep going; your hysterical rants simply confirm the veracity of my thesis. You are barbarous peasants with no right whatsoever to the Macedonian heritage. Macedonia is Greek, not Slavic. Find your own name.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
if you didnt know the acient MACEDONS were barbarians and we are not slavs dumb bustard we are here with centyres not like you camed from central azia broth from the turks in the middle centyry
you realy should read the bible it doesent say gayreece nowere it says st. paule camed in macedonia to spred the cristian religion
so know you can fuck yourself and all your fag nation
kom1ta 1 year ago
English, please? I'm afraid I don't understand your rant.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
i want to fuck you all faggot nation
maybe now you'll understand fucking fag
kom1ta 1 year ago
I'd love to see you try, Slavo-Bulgar peasant spawn. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
you ll see werry soon belive me and by the way good luck with your economy i mean if you have one sucker
da ti ebam sve sto ti mrda po doma pogotovo sestrati i da dade gospod site do eden da umrete krvta da vi ja ebam sugava
UNITED MACEDONIA FOREVER
kom1ta 1 year ago
LOL! Even in its current state, the Greek economy still shits all over your impoverished economy of goat herders.
Όταν μιλάς σου μπαίνει, κι όταν δε μιλάς σου μπαινοβγαίνει, κουφάλα.
MACEDONIA, FOREVER GREEK. FIND YOUR OWN NAME.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
Long live Macedonia! Long live Hellas! Death to Skopje!
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
hhhhhhhhhhhh
you are dumber than i thoght
LONG LIVE MACEDONIA
DEATH FOR GAYREECE
DEATH FOR HELLASS
DEATH FOR THE FAGGOT NATION
kom1ta 1 year ago
What' the fuck is "hhhhhhhhhhhh"? Are you an Arab? I've only seen Arabs write it like that, due to their lack of written vowels.
Long live Macedonia, indeed. But you have nothing to do with it. Macedonia is Greek. Find your own name. Death to VARDARSKA!
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
it means that i want to fuck your fag nation on wich i piss on you fuckin kurd
death for GAYREECE fucking fags
kom1ta 1 year ago
In the spirit of the ancient Hellenic Olympic Truce, I propose that we cease all hostilities for the duration of the Olympic Games being held in Vancouver.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
Shut a fkup.
"DO NOT THE GREEKS APPEAR TO YOU TO WALK ABOUT AMONG MACEDONIANS LIKE DEMI-GODS AMONG WILD BEASTS?"
"The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian"
- Arrian
zelezo777 1 year ago
to makedanos
the acient gayreeks died long time ago couse they were all fags and you are broth from central azia known as kurds as turkish slaves not so long time ago so fuck off and dont tell us who we are couse you dont know who you are dumb fuck fags from gayreece
MACEDONIA FOREVER
kom1ta 1 year ago
How scientific and scholarly of you, well done. MACEDONIA, FOREVER GREEK. Find your own name, Slavo-Bulgars.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
Ти не си Македонец, ти си бугарин. Македонци се само Грците, е Македонија е само грчка.
MAKEDANOS 2 years ago
Ne e tocno, Bugarite se turko-mongilski narod, Makedoncite se domorodni.
A ti si Afrikanski cigan narecen "Grk".
MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!
historyofmacedonia . org
Macedon51 1 year ago
Wrong. You are of the same mixed Turkic Bulgar and Slavic stock as the Bulgarians. In fact, you were the same people until Communist Yugoslavia declared otherwise in 1944.
As for the "African gypsy" slur, it only shows how racist you lot are. What makes you think you're better than the Africans or Roma? You're not.
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"Using results from the analysis of a single marker, particularly one likely to have undergone selection, for the purpose of reconstructing genealogies is unreliable and unacceptable practice in population genetics", making specific allusion to the findings on Greeks (among others) as "anomalous results, which contradict history, geography, anthropology and all prior population-genetic studies of these groups."
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Other authors contradict Arnaiz-Villena's results. In The History and Geography of Human Genes (Princeton, 1994), Cavalli-Sforza, Menozzi and Piazza grouped Greeks with other European and Mediterranean populations based on 120 loci. Then, Ayub et al. 2003 did the same thing using 182 loci.
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In a sample of 125 Greeks from Thessaloniki, including Sarakatsani, 2 Asian-specific mtDNA sequences (M and D) were detected (1.6%). No sub-Saharan African genes were observed in this population, therefore, non-Caucasoid maternal ancestry in Greece is very low, as elsewhere in Europe.
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Additionally, in a sample of 366 Greeks from thirteen locations in continental Greece, Crete, Lesvos and Chios, a single African haplogroup A Y Chromosome was found (0.3%). This marks the only instance to date of sub-Saharan DNA being discovered in Greece.
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago
In another sample of 42 Greeks, one sequence of the Siberian Tat-C haplogroup turned up, while other studies with larger sample populations have failed to detect this paternal marker in the Greek gene pool and that its frequencies are actually much higher in Scandinavian and Slavic populations.
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Also, a paper has detected clades of haplogroups J and E3b that were likely not part of pre-historic migrations into Europe, but rather spread by later historical movements. Greeks possess none of the lineages denoting North African ancestry within the last 5000 years and have only 2% (3/148) of the marker J-M267, which may reflect more recent Middle Eastern admixture.
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Another study was conducted in 2004 at Skopje's University of Ss. Kiril and Metodij, using high-resolution typing of HLA-DRB1 according to Arnaiz-Villena's methodology. Contrary to Arnaiz-Villena's conclusion, no sub-Saharan admixture was detected in the Greek sample. LOL! Are you disputing your own Skopjan scientists now?
MAKEDANOS 1 year ago