22" Istanbul K Zildjian Cymbal 1980 grams Intermediate Stamp Vintage

[jeronimoringo]

is it sold?

[jazzmessenger8]

Damn... I have one of these cymbals, but it has a small crack about one inch long, moving in perpendicular from the outside of the cymbal. I really want to play it but I'm too afraid to irritate it.  Any suggestions?

[crampon1973]

@jazzmessenger8

Just drill a TINY hole at the end of the crack - it will prevent the crack from expanding.

If you hear a rattling sound from the crack, perhaps rivets (or a little chain) could cover it up . I drilled a few rides myself, and never had a problem.

[Sc0ttPrian]

@crampon1973 I cut all the way around a cymbal, by cutting a keyhole, youre not actually eliminating the stress points. so theres no guarantee that the crack wont progress. that is all :)

[delrod24]

bosphorous and istanbul,do not make cymbals that sound and play like old ks. they advertise that,but they simply dont,although they're makin some nice stuff these days. if you want that old k sound, youll need an old k or spizzicinno.

[gile64kragujevacgrad]

How much?

[Helslinky]

Bosphorus are the greatest cymbal makers by far!!!!!!!!!

[NUProductions4Music]

Istanbul Agop?

[SPmQQse]

after fifty+ of drumming... my ears may have susatained some residual damage..... but....i still maintain...new symbals dont do it for me....in gen. maybe the appriciation of sound resonance has changed  over the decades...?

[SPmQQse]

i havent heard a great cymbal....thats made after the 60's

tin isnt the sound i need

[goldenhopper]

You have to be high. Istanbul is making some of the best stuff ever right now.

[zildmaster]

@SPmQQse You should really check out Spizzichino

[jazzmessenger8]

@zildmaster Spizzichino cymbals blow my mind.  I found the ride I have been looking for for years and it was made by Spizzichino. The only downside is the $1,500 price tag.

[trummapa]

I WANT THIS!

[winnerbaby44]

why in the world did they stop making those?

[TheMusicGene]

I want that

[AggressiveC]

I don't even play jazz and I want that thing.

[drummerboy6800]

how much?

[eatrocksah]

oh my god

[Hannibu]

Yeah!

That's how a ride cymbal should sound. Great.

Look how it wobbles!!!!

What has become of Zildjian that they don't make such good cymbals anymore?

[westhofer8]

they got lazy. they don't hand hammer any cymbals anymore. with zildjian you're mostly paying for the name. but don't get me wrong some of their stuff sounds great. i have a few my self, just they're not like they were a long time ago in a galaxy far far away

[ilikememusic]

the families split up into istanbul, zildjian, and sabian. zildjian came to usa, istanbul stayed in istanbul (why theyre not so popular, sabian went to canada

[westhofer8]

ya istanbul isn't as popular but i like their cymbals better than zildjians

[ilikememusic]

i agree with you.  istanbul is the only company that has stayed true to it's roots.

[chochemerlyn]

Bosphorus hand makes cymbals the same way they used to make the old k istanbul cymbals.

[ilikememusic]

well i mean the companies of the zildjian family

[chochemerlyn]

Kerope Zildjian and Avedis came from the same family, but Kerope stayed in Turkey hand making K Zildjian and Avedis moved to US. Mehmet and Agop are two people that worked at the K Istanbul plant, but they're not part of the Zildjian family. In 68 A Zildjian bought K. Zildjian and after some political turmoil in Turkey moved production to Canada at the Azco plant. After Avedis died the two brothers Robert and Armand split, and Robert turned the Azco plant to Sabian as Armand went back to US.

[dwdrums40385]

i bought a old 22 zildjian for $50 off craigs list, it's hand hand-hammered, i think it is an old k or somethin gotta figure out exactly what it is, it has the moon and stuff on it, yeah i wish they would make more cymbals with better quality