Chess Lesson: King and Pawn vs. King

[burstmaster]

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[888peanut888]

@burstmaster somebody must be playing pyro on tf2

[SOCCER744CHAMP]

the person that didnt like this got check mated

[xnoel]

thx for the explanation, very good :)

[badsalad313]

Wait a minute, at 4:05 isn't that pretty much a checkmate? I don't see how it can be a draw, but correct me if (and I probably am) wrong :)

[radeon9700pro]

@badsalad313 The black king isn't in check. Therefore no checkmate.

[badsalad313]

@radeon9700pro Ooh so even though no matter where the black king moves, he'd be taken, this is a stalemate because it's his turn, he's not currently under attack, and there's nowhere he can go? COOL that makes sense, thanks :)

[TheALEXor]

@badsalad313 because black cannot make a legitamite move without capture, checkmate only occurs if the king is already threatened and his next move equals capture. Also if you look closely at 4:07, it is a draw because if he moves to any direction, its capture. And if he goes for the pawn its capture.

[bibafortuna]

wow u make it look so easy

[shinyninetales999]

what about triangulation???

[BigLamLam]

how that is a draw?



[essentialpassion]

@BigLamLam well it's called a stalemate which occurs when the king is not checked but it can't move anywhere else when it is its turn. So it counts as a draw.

[i3enI]

How about this end game scenario I ran into: Black KG3, pawns G4 & A6; White KG1, pawn A5. Black to move. I tried everything and it looks like a stalemate can any one show otherwise? I'll be impressed.

[rickideemus]

@i3enI

1... Kh3 2. Kh1 (If Kf1 or Kf2, 2... Kg2 and g pawn queens) Kh1 3. g3 Kg1 4. g2 Kf2 5. Kh2 and g pawn queens. No stalemate; no draw. Black wins. Black also wins if white goes first.

[i3enI]

@rickideemus yeah I don't know what I was thinking..how stupid i abandoned that pawn and thought I could out run him to the A pawns. must a been tired that day, how simple...

[rickideemus]

@i3enI

Hey, I didn't see it at first, either. People naturally want to make things more complicated than they are.

Tagideasy

[Shado2486]

wait on 3:18 you could move the white king to D6 and the pawn will be protecting the white king and the black king will have no choice to move back then the advantage will come right back to you. Right?? if i am wronge tell me.

[grocop]

in 1.30 what about the black king moves to d5 an not to d7????is draw!

[rickideemus]

No way, dude. ;-} At 1:30: ...Kd5 | e4+ Kd6 | Kf6 Kd7 | e5 and next move, white either gets his king to f7 or regains the opposition.

Unfortunately for black, the opposition doesn't work sideways!

[calisto2g]

I agree with Nimzomyth68. If someone doesn't know about opposition, you can win. But a skilled player with opposition isn't gonna give it up and you're gonna draw. This position is usually reached by trading off rooks so make sure you will have opposition after the trade. Excellent tutorial!

[Best1O1]

These are easy to win :)

[Nimzomyth68]

Easy when you know it, but without a little knowledge a stalemate easily occurs. These vids are very helpful for those who want to learn.

[Best1O1]

I know what you mean. I've seen many who lose in these positions when the advantage is in their favor

[srn347]

And the 50 move rule is if there have been 50 moves(or 49 and about to be 50) without capture or pawn advance, the person to move can claim a draw(it is not automatic and has to be claimed to be valid).

[srn347]

In a king and pawn vs king endgame, the offending side can win if at least 2 of the 3 following conditions are met(or going to be met) and otherwise it is draw. The conditions are:

1) the offending side has opposition

2)the offending king is in front of the pawn

3) the offending king is on the sixth rank

There are however, exceptions, for example rook pawns.

[MrFedel]

not true.. if 2 and 3 are met, White king on c6 and pawn on c2, but black king on c3, its a draw.

[chess550]

Thanks! this is very helpful!

[StupidfuckingLogin2]

Awesome!

[SamCris]

thanks

[xFoxMcCloud]

Hey man, at 3:38 you could advanced the white pawn a space, so it would be check and the black king would have to go to some space in that direction <<<

Then you would promoted the pawn, then you only had to take his king to the boards

In that second case, with the white made a mistake like you said, but if he is a good player, the only hope for black would be the end of the 50 moves ( Then would be a draw )

[Rabsander]

If white would have checked black with the pawn, then the black king could block the pawn from up front, and white has no way to maintain defense of his pawn without stalemating the black king.

[thelight43tdubb]

3:54 is pretty much the same position at 3:38 and he explains why your idea wouldn't work. I was thinking the same thing, but he explained why it wouldn't work. This was a very thorough and helpful video for me.

[Mozzarina]

Doesn't the 50-move only apply if a piece isn't taken or a pawn moved? Presumably you aren't suggesting that it could take 50 moves to # with Q&K v K?

And yeah, a pawn check at 3:38 leads to either loss of the pawn or stalemate.

[ZubirixRS]

U talk 2 much

[thef1fan]

thanks for that

[Zylvanna]

great!!!!!!!!!