Abortion doctor says anti-abortion terrorism has to stop- 2/2

[MetalIsEvolution]

This counslor is right...even if you hated what Tiller did, at least condem his murder

[omfgNstfu]

Pro life pro life...YOU'RE NOT THE ONE WHO'S GONNA BE RAISING THAT CHILD, FEEDING THAT CHILD, SUPPORTING THAT CHILD, HOUSING THAT CHILD, AND SHARING YOUR LIFE WITH THAT CHILD. A women is not a dog or an animal any 3rd party can tell her what to do with her body.

[vgman94]

@omfgNstfu I agree with you on almost everything but dogs are animals and humans are animals. And animals don't deserve bad treatment either. But I agree. The child is too much work and the child may suffer in life as well. When will people learn that abortion isn't murder? My guess is when education improves.

[angelshoulders]

PPFA clinics provided over 300,000 abortions in 2007, making the organization the nation's largest abortion provider. At going rates, it appears that over one-third of PPFA-affiliated clinic income is generated by abortions

[OhNoItsCommonSense]

Anti abortion violence my ass. Type in pro life violence and show me one video of "caught on camera" footage of pro lifers hitting, spitting, kicking, disrupting demonstrations, or burning banners. And come back to me with all the vids you find of pro choicers doing those things.

[ste670ler]

Tillers death was just another late term abortion , how do you like those apples you feminist whore!

[ste670ler]

Fuck this skank ass feminist whore, fucking baby killing bitch! Tiller reaped what he sowed , burn in hell Tiller!

[TAKEHEED1]

The unborn baby=a girl=a women, where is your heart for all humanity. I pleaded with Dr. Tiller to choose another field of work, he always mocked me, more importantly he mocked God. God is not mocked Gal. 6:7 The majority of people that have abortions are from whoreing around after each other and then not taking responsibilty for their actions and then have to live wit that, unless their dead and don't care about all humanity. Are you dead?

[BreakBlowBurn]

@TAKEHEED1 your a christian, so forgive him.

[kweer58]

Amidst this violent murder, remember another type of violence that occurs in abortion clinics. Please watch a sonogram of an actual abortion and see for yourself. (Abortionists make them rare to view. But one, from the 1980s, is on "YouTube": Silent Scream part 3.) You see how the human fetus responds to physical touch as the abortionist is killing her. How much pain does she feel while being aborted? Judge for yourself.

[sally0777]

say your prayer warren because you are next.

[tjttzcspplt]

Pathetic people. They must be mentally and spiritually ill. What else could it be? They call it a service? Who are they servicing but themselves to blood money. The health of families? Of children??!! Insane.

[d2146498]

No....not insane.

EVIL

[GoldSkywalkern]

@tjttzcspplt

The health of women who desire their services. Also, I sincerely doubt they are ill, let alone "spiritually" ill (whatever that is).

It's not insane-- they provide a function in our society. They provide women with a choice on whether to carry to term or not. I've no problem with that.

[tjttzcspplt]

Then you are a monster. What is healthy about making a woman kill her own flesh and blood? If you think this does not cause psychological damage, you shld ask a post-abortive woman. What kind of society encourages a girl to kill her child to free her up to be an object of lust for a man? What a rip off. And we wonder at the suicide, depression, violence, and loneliness rampant in the world. You obviously don't care. Our society is dying along with our babies. Wake up, you fools.

[GoldSkywalkern]

@tjttzcspplt

I'm fine with being a monster in your eyes for not caring about an embryo, over an actual person. It's about as irrational as declaring someone a horrid person for eating fruit loops instead of cheerios, though.

Encourage? I wouldn't encourage anybody to have an abortion, but I do want the choice to be there should they desire or need it. I never said it doesn't cause stress for some women-- it's a very serious decision. But it's not my business.

Society is changing-- not dying

[tjttzcspplt]

It's changing all right. Colder, and meaner, and full of hatred and vitriol. Nobody caring about anybody else. And yes, this brave new world definitely encourages a woman to have an abortion. Society is sick and dysfunctional, as you have illustrated very clearly.

[GoldSkywalkern]

@tjttzcspplt Colder and meaner? Really? If you believe that today is any worse than this world has been historically, you've been looking at it through rose-tinted glasses up until now.

The only people in this issue full of hatred and vitriol here are the people murdering doctors, and their cohorts.

I have demonstrated nothing more than your bleeding heart sentiments towards the plight of embryos, and an active ability to turn a blind eye to the world. Your beliefs are dying. Thank goodness.

[tjttzcspplt]

U must b very young. You've not known many people born before 1945. They were of a diff. ilk. You are relying on a biased, agenda -ridden history for most of your info. Life was more difficult; there was more sickness and poverty. But people had a depth of personality, more humility. A person had family and community to help. No comm. these days. Ethnic groups stuck together and supported one another. There was a politeness that was mandatory. A warmth in people that is absent today.

[GoldSkywalkern]

@tjttzcspplt While I've certainly agreed that the information age has certainly made our society colder (insofar as our intolerance for people opposed to us has increased, as we now have the option to simply tune them out most of the time), but family and community are still here, and there is now a new sense of globalism and equality in humanity. Ignoring your ageistic statements and unfounded theories of historical revisionism, I CAN say that life was more brutal in the past. In most developed

[GoldSkywalkern]

@tjttzcspplt nations, we cannot compare to the past in terms of extreme acts of inhumanity and unfeelingness. You speak of pre-1945, and I will tell you what happened right before that date: Holocaust, Holodomor, Armenian Genocide, massacres throughout history by developed nations gainst developing nations, and the like. It still goes on today, but it's either disguised or repressed by modern governments.

Again, you're looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses-- and you call me revisionist?

[tjttzcspplt]

The atrocities, typcially caused by governments in an attempt to control, are not what I am referring to. I am referring to individuals. I have met these people in the course of my career. They are of a character the likes of which is almost never seen today, including Nazi prisoners, German POW's, American GI's, etc. People your age are spoiled brats who feel entitled to a life of luxury at ease. If it is at the expense of the next generation, you don't care. In my book, that is insanity.

[substentic]

Why is it that all those butch bulldykes are always so very very vocal about the whole issue of abortion!? What do they know about having babies!? I can't see any red-blooded man ever wanting to fuck one of these trolls! Why can't they stick to what they really know something about-- rug muching!?

[d2146498]

Because "lesbianism" isn't about finding other women attractive....it's about hating men, hating marriage and family, and hating children. It's sick and anti-life. So you see people who engage in it, advocating other things that are sick and anti-life.

That's why.

[Kayelle1980]

Yes, you keep telling yourself that. I'm sure that makes hate mongering easier.

[Kayelle1980]

Gee, maybe because they actually fight for women's rights!

Something too many of us seem to have forgotten...

[substentic]

I've got 7" of rights tucked in my pants!

[Kayelle1980]

I'm so impressed. Please go have some fun at the pissing contest with your high school friends.

[TAKEHEED1]

Keep in mind their not fighting for the rights of ALL WOMEN.

[Kayelle1980]

Embryo's do not count as women. In fact, even after birth they have to go through about 12 years before puberty kicks in, and you can even consider calling them "women".

Not that I'm for the random beheading of 12-year olds, just saying though...

[TAKEHEED1]

Wow, Can't say much to that other than google choice blues and see for yourself.

[Kayelle1980]

Sure, it's graphic. Still doesn't make them "women". I could go for "alive", possibly.

The second part is clearly a late-term one, which I myself am not a fan of, and which is not actually legal where I live. However: I'm still not telling other women what to do.

[tjttzcspplt]

No, they don't fight for women's rights. That's the big lie we're all too stupid to figure out right off the bat. They are for doing whatever the hell they feel like it and forcing the rest to say it's a good thing. Well, guess what? We've had 40 years of that crap and it has done nothing but made life a living nightmare for most of the kids. Women's rights, my behind.

[Kayelle1980]

No-one's forcing anyone. If you think abortion is wrong: by all mean, don't get one.

The rest of us are very happy to have that choice!

[tjttzcspplt]

As I told Gold Sky above. Your generation is made of a bunch of spoiled brats who feel entitled to a life of luxury and ease. If it is at the expense of the next generation, so be it. You people have no conscience. You are deserving of the "bad karma"., the misfortunes and suffering you are bringing down on your heads. You are also contracepting and aborting yourselves off the face of the earth. Well, good riddance to us, then, if we haven't the sense God gave to the birds and the bees.

[Kayelle1980]

You know nothing of how easy or uneasy my life was, so truly, you have no right of speech.

I do not feel I owe anything to the future generation as a whole. Nor to the previous one. I might owe something to individual people, but that's another matter entirely. With population levels being problematic as they are, we are hardly "aborting ourselves" off the earth. hell, if out numbers were quartered it would be a relief for the planet!

[tjttzcspplt]

Who are you to say what right I have to anything? You, who would deny life to a child. Population is not the problem. Rogue governments are. You are a duitful student of your indoctrination. What you don't realize is that you are not part of the plan. (900 million people, only). Only certain elitists will be part of this brave new world. You are not one of them, believe me. You are being used. Learn to think critically for yourself and stop regurgitating  propaganda, child.

[Kayelle1980]

It is funny I am being lectured on propaganda by someone who apparently has conspiracy theories about rogue governments. Also, denying overpopulation does not make it any less of a problem.

I do not intend to be part of any 'brave new world', I'm simply here to ride out the days of my life as well as I can.

I am thinking critically...just not the sort of critical you agree with. Tough. If by propaganda you mean standing up for womens rights: call me a flag-waver.

[tjttzcspplt]

You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to population. You are walking blind. I know this by what you refer to as "women's rights". And labeling me as a conspiracy theorist is silly, and you obviously are not interested in what I have to say. Have a nice life. At least you got to have one. Hope you grow up to see the light.

[MsUnpopular]

@Kayelle1980 so kill all yor children yourself, dont have someone do it for you, why make someone burn in hell with you

[Kayelle1980]

Firstly, not all people believe in your hell.

Secondly, people who perform abortions generally choose to be in that profession. They could have been , oh, I dunno, cardiologists instead. No one'-s dragging anyone with them.

Thirdly, we go to doctors for abortions to make it medically safe, not to die bleeding in an alley (though I'm sure you'd prefer that!)

[MsUnpopular]

first, its not my hell its yours, secondly if tiller had been a cardiologist he may be alive today, thirdly if your willing to kill your own children then i hope you do bleed to death, the way you made your unborn child die,

[Kayelle1980]

-Sure it's *your* hell, dear, the rest of us do not believe in children's scaremongering stories.

- your comment about the death of Tiller is nothing short of disgusting.

-Fetuses are not children, repeating it does not make them so.

-I didn't terminate any of your precious blobs of tissue, but if ever my birth control ever fails, I sure as hell want the option to exists.

- the fact that you want me to bleed to death, doesn't mean I have to. The law agrees with me on that.

[MsUnpopular]

sooner or later you will realize that hell is not a childrens story, what tiller did was ten times more disgusting than what i said, a fetus is a baby, saying that it is not does not make it true, obviously you didnt terminate any of my babies (blobs) because if i was a man i wouldnt have a relationship with a idiot that thinks killing a baby is just a matter of "choice" how about being responsible for yourself and not being a whore, or is everything about YOU

[Kayelle1980]

Honey, if I were man I'd be sure to keep away ten miles in fear of fertilizing you, and if you were a man you couldn't touch me with a ten foot pole - trust me, we agree on that one.

And my life is about me, yes, thank you very much. It's the only life I have, and I intend to live it to the fullest. Sometimes having an abortion*is* the responsible thing to do...it sure beats having a kid that you're going to hate.

[MsUnpopular]

yeah your selfish, all about you, kill the babies, dont bother me with it, would rather kill the child, then give them up for adoption, oh but that might hurt your figure, too bad your already ugly on the inside, someday you WILL have to take responsibility for what you do in life, as far as trusting you, no-one can trust you, your own child couldnt trust you, how can anyone else

[Kayelle1980]

Nope, I'm not the adopting kind, you're correct. And if you think it's just about my figure...that's the least of a pregnant woman's worries. Try not getting hired for jobs cause you have a huge belly, or nasty birthing effects like incontinence of genital tearing. Not to mention the psychological anguish of people congratulating you on pregnancy you don't want.

And children do not need to trust me. I do not have a any....that's sort of the point.

[angelshoulders]

Women who have had abortions are 2.4 times more likely to abuse the children they "want"(Study Citation: Priscilla K. Coleman, Charles D. Maxey, Vincent M. Rue, and Catherine T. Coyle, Associations between voluntary and involuntary forms of pregnancy loss and child maltreatment among low-income mothers, Acta Paediatrica 94, 2005.) Just to name one of several studies

[angelshoulders]

@Ms Personally, I'm against killing abortionists, but the abortionists don't want us to impose OUR morals on everyone else. Let's not surrender to hypocrites. Let's check the half-time score . . .

KILLED SINCE ROE v. WADE

Abortionists: 5

Babies: 50,000,000

(According to the Center for Disease Control)

[angelshoulders]

@Kayelle1980 The same abortionists are doing 'legal' abortions as were doing them in the back alleys pre roe v wade.Only now they are on the high streets of Planned Parenthood.Abortion deaths have not declined since it was legalized.Planned Parenthood,NARA:,National Coalition of Abortion Providers,Alan Guttmacher and all agree, life begins at conception.Fetus =baby

[Kayelle1980]

@angelshoulders

Well the legal is rather better for the woman's health..which you seem to care very little about. the prevent death of ACTUAL BORN WOMEN.

[angelshoulders]

@Ms Google "Kansas abortion statistics" & read the stats on abortion published online by the Kansas Dept of Health & Environment

Between 04 & 08 Tiller performed 1928 late term abortions.

99% had no birth defects

99% posed no risk of death? to mother

99% involved no medical emergency

According to the LA Times,Tiller made$6000 for each late term(22+weeks old)abortion

1928x$6000=$11,568,000 for 5 yrs(04-08)&that does not include the $ from the 1000s of his early term abortions

[angelshoulders]

@MsUnpopular Obama has said he would support policies to reduce abortion but by signing this order,he is effectively guaranteeing more abortions by allowing overseas groups that are committed to abortion on demand as a birth control method to receive federal taxpayer dollars.

[angelshoulders]

@Kayelle1980 Abortion is legal because we let it be. We live in the richest country,a land flowing of milk &honey,but immediate gratification &selfishness seems to be our anthem.Abortion is a multi-million $ business.What price is human life? $500-$5000.That is what your life is worth if you havent passed through the birth canal!Our country should be deeply ashamed.We talk of human rights,we talk of animal rights,while the entire time we allow fellow Americans to slaughter &be slaughtered

[Kayelle1980]

@angelshoulders

What is this "our" you are talking about. If you stop suffering from your illusions of grandeur - the USA does not have a monopoly on internet use. Why do you assume I'm American. I believe the right to bodily integrity of a woman and the right to reproductive control should be a universal (world-wide) right.

[Kayelle1980]

@angelshoulders

Slaughter? lol

Dramatic much, are we?

So what if someone makes money on it.? Want to talk adoption, because that's where the REAL money is!

If it were about money, people wouldn't be aborting..no, they'd be SELLING the little brats.

Bottom line is: some women do not want kids. Or not right now.

Period.

And if someone is making money on that reality of life...so be it. They're making money on everything else, too!

[angelshoulders]

SAFE abortion deaths:Eunice Agbaaga,NY, 1989,Demetrice Andrews,GA,1988

Mickey Apodaca,TX,1984,Gloria Aponte, CT, 1986,Barbara Auerbach, NJ, 1981

Jacqueline Bailey,CA,1977,Myrta Baptiste,FL,1977,Lisa Bardsley,AZ, 1995

Junette Barnes,TX, 1988,Deanna Bell, IL,1992,Brenda Benton, IL,1987

Rosario Bermeo, NY, 1983,Janet Blaum,LA,1974,Cassandra Bleavins, CA, 1971

Diane Boyd, MO, 1981

[Kayelle1980]

@angelshoulders

yes, and some people die having their wisdom teeth removed. Any medical procedure has risks...that includes giving birth.

You managed to find 15 deaths over a span of what, 15 years?

That's one death a year then, in the entire USA I presume then?

More women die in childbirth...nice try, but not quite.

[angelshoulders]

@Kayelle1980 I have the names,ages,facilities,abortion­ists names,death certificates,court case #'s,convictions of at least 1000 women who have died as a direct result of abortion! I can provide you with all if you care to see the faceless names on the headstones of these women prodeath community hide from the public.

[Kayelle1980]

@angelshoulders

Do you also have the death certificates of all the women who died in child birth or as a result of complications after giving birth in the same area during the same period of time? Because ONLY if those numbers are significantly less than your 1000; does that mean anything at all.

[angelshoulders]

@Kayelle1980 This is not about the money as much as it is about the prochoice women who die at the hands of abortionists, mamed, sterilized, disfigured. How about the abortionist makes it so these mothers can NEVER have children. If you don't want the baby,the only sure way is to get sterilized, get a hysterectomy or DON'T HAVE SEX!

[Kayelle1980]

@angelshoulders

Are you worried about women or fetuses? Sounds like you want to come across as being both, but it doesn't quite work that way.

To women, abortion is SAFER than giving birth. Your maiming and disfiguring is just a flat-out lie.

Yes, medical procedures can go wrong. People have died from dental infections..but that does not make it LIKELY.

As for sterilizing: Why should we risk our own health? Or who says a woman who had an abortion doesn't want kids 10 years later on? Her choice

[angelshoulders]

Prolife care for the mother & her baby.I am deeply concerned with the #'s of women dying from a unneccessary killing of their babies.You can't tell me that these deaths from abortion are of no consequence to the prodeathers?Or then again,maybe they are.You reject the idea that abortionists&facilities are filthy&neglectful to protect abortion,yet care nothing for the prodeath women dying.

[omfgNstfu]

@Kayelle1980 LOL on that topic....in some Asian countries women just have kids so they sell it for a profit.

[angelshoulders]

Currently$461 million is allocated to these programs.Obamas order does not affect the amount of money allocated to the programs;it only affects which organizations are eligible for the fund.58% of the American people disagreed with  Obamas order.

[Kayelle1980]

@angelshoulders

Well dear, your citizens voted for him, it's called majority vote, don't come crying if you didn't use your vote & regret it now!

[angelshoulders]

3 days after taking office,Obama signed an order allowing funds in the U.S. population assistanceprogram to go to organizations that perform&promote abortion as a method of birth control,including lobbying to remove pro-life laws overseas. Prior to Obamas order, a pro-life policy had been in place stipulating that funds in theU.S.population assistanceprograms go only to overseas organizations that pledge NOT TOperform or actively promote abortion as a method of family planning.