that was an excellent concept at the end there: embargos force the population to embrace their dictators rather than to expel them. history seems to bear that out.
'Naom and Paul are wrong here..... they hating us for our policies is old ...very old. Now they hate us because they want an islamic world.)
When i meant " they" i mean ...al queda,taliban,Pak army/ISI,islamist leaning Youth *(10-40 yrs) in UK,US,West, turks in germany, france ,radicals in Africa, idonesia,malay ,and india.
@FransisR You're the one who's absolutely wrong. Hating the US for being a powerful non-Muslim nation was not the inspiration behind the 9-1-1 bombings. Have you ever watched any of the Osama bin Laden videos released by the Pentagon? All he talks about is his disagreement with US policies.
@awhitesoul2012 Eventually the whole world population will be a mix of all ethnicities. We'll all be coffee coloured. How do you feel about that? I am white and I for one couldn't give two shits if my children were black, white, yellow, brown or red - they'll still be human. Go burn a cross you racist fuck.
You wrote -- We have evience shuddup. My response -- Can you give just one ? I don't want theory a d idea but physical evidence. What about morality, imagination, dream, language etc. From where, we received all these ? By the way, how many people would you try to shutup ? Only fool can believe in evolution theory.
"New findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than a hypothesis. In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly disciplines. The convergence in the results of these independent studies—which was neither planned nor sought—constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory."
@mojo972 Fossil is just a impression of bone, leaf, plant in mud which gradually becomes solid rock after certain temperature, compression and atmosphere. If you keep a flower in your Book and put some weight and leave it for couple of month or longer. It would be consider kind of fossil too. Just getting fossil does not proof that our ancestors were apes or we share common ancestors. Till today we have received fossils of 100% plants, animals or insects. Please provide any other proof.
@samaroo96 im not referring to the process of fossilisation - im talking about the fossil record - which clearly shows evolution in action.
To my regret i know little about science - I tend to put my trust in people such as Darwin, who dedicated their lives to studying the natural world. Science may be imperfect, but its all we have to understand the world around us.
As I said in my previous post, even the late Pope wasnt 'foolish' enough to doubt the truth of our origins....
@samaroo96 re. other types of proof, my understanding is that genetics have confirmed Darwin beyond any doubt... but then I have the feeling that youre the sort of person who doesnt value 'proof' of any kind...
NC is probably going to disagree with RP's domestic policy. But I would like to see NC talk about what HE thinks the role of the federal gov't should be.
Just because Ron Paul & Noam Chomsky agree on SOME THINGS it doesn't mean suddenly mean that EVERYTHING Ron Paul stands for is a great idea. Ron Paul attracts conspiracy theorist weirdos, anti-Semies (who blend right in with LEGITIMATE critics of American foreign policy), racists like the ones found in Stormfront who endorse Ron Paul, the politically misinformed, & unreasonable libertarian ideologues. Hitler liked dogs. I like dogs. THAT doesn't mean I should ebrace everything Hitler stood for
this whole ron paul thing is quite disturbing. yes, it's refreshing that he's not calling for the nuking of iran and has sane views on 9/11, but he's a climate change denier, homophobic, doesn't believe in evolution,will shut down the IRS, and won't allow poor people to get healthcare or a decent education.
@ollieeSkate That is a one sided spin. Explain why hundreds of millions of years ago our CO2 levels were way higher and the Earth had its most fertile period with record growth rates for plants? He also thinks a free society would not care who married who- and no one group should ever get benefits over another. Evolution- stop watching highly edited videos, its a non issue to him. You like paying taxes? Totally wrong on healthcare and education- they suck b/c of the govt.
@EgadsNo i'm not going to debate with a climate change denier as you can easily look up anything, online or otherwise, that will prove me (and science) right. I have watched no edited videos, again, look it up right now: type in "ron paul evolution" and its the 4th video down. if you want to see him use homophobic language look up his part in the movie "bruno" (not that it ultimately matters for policy but still) and yes, taxes for hospitals and help for struggling families sounds good to me
@ollieeSkate Man made climate change is an old scam to benefit corporations. look up "The Founding of the Federal Reserve | Murray N. Rothbard" BTW taxes don't benefit struggling families. It causes more people to struggle by wasting money that could have been used responsibly to be spent on more military and police. It never gets to the poor because its not designed to. listen to Rothbard.
@RefractableMe I refuse to try and "make a case" for climate change as it is not even something to be debated. You can accept it and try to do something about it, or ignore it and be a crackpot.as for taxes you're absolutely right, that's why we should be cutting military spending and actually getting it to the struggling families, not abolishing it completely. and since ron can't give a straight answer ill ask you. if a poor person gets sick and can't afford treatment, are they allowed to die?
@ollieeSkate The climate does change. Its called seasons, the earth spins around the sun. Man made climate change is shown to be less then a percent. That can be easily solved a whole lot of ways. Evolution and nature is why Ron Paul is right. Check out the Rothbard video to understand the POV. and to answer your slanted question, Yes a poor person would be "allowed" to die. However it would never happen...."The Founding of the Federal Reserve | Murray N. Rothbard"
At :18 Noam says "I saw that." then he immediately catches himself and says
"I didn't see it. I read about it."
Oh ya Noam. Right.
I bet Noam likes to secretly hunker down in front of the tube for hours, munching Chitos swilling beer, and surfing through Fox News, the football game, reality tv.
Or maybe he's an ice cream & daytime soap opera man...
@mybagitchesalot - Not even close. I know Noam well enough after almost ten years to tell you that he rarely watches anything. He "saw" it in print. You have no idea how hard this man works and how much he reads everyday. If enough others worked one-tenth as hard as he does the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, few do anything constructive. Most ignore things, and then there are some who use their time making a joke of our entire situation. It's up to you what category you belong to.
@DrKenHildebrandt WOW, really? Hey thank you so much for clarifying that for me, Dr Ken. Golly, you mean you actually KNOW Noam? Wow. And you being a Dr and all. And now you actually responded to my Youtube comment. WOW! I guess that makes me almost as important as you think you almost are, Dr Ken.
But golly Dr Ken, are you really sure Noam never maybe sneeks off for a peek at the Colbert Report, or reruns of Monty Python?
Have you ever heard of a concept called humour Dr Ken?
@mybagitchesalot - When you're talking about hundreds of thousands of children who died due to our sanctions, yet the general population for the most part didn't even know about it, hence they bought into the whole, 'They hate our freedom' thing, humor has no place. Then there's the whole Palestinian issue. The other day a little girl was shot as she was playing near the wall. She'll be paralyzed for life, yet they booed Ron Paul over this. There's a time and a place for humor and this isn't it.
@DrKenHildebrandt I've stopped watching TV entirely in the past 6 months, I didn't watch it a lot before but I'm so glad I've stopped. It's such a time waster, such a bitter, cynical "hate your fellow human" mindset they're just pouring into your head. I've come to see TV as the biggest enemy we have in this country to any sort of change.
@TheDystopiaInside - Well stated. "The greatest weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed," as Steve Biko said, and TV sure does have control of people's minds, at least here in the US anyway.
@mybagitchesalot If you can't present sound arguments against your opponents, do not despair: cherrypicking linguistic minutia in their speech will do just as well.
@Candyliz2003 Uhm Ron Pauls foreign policy is analogous to the prime directive- while the alternative is used by dictatorships that aggressively interfere and highly influence their public like those on Romulus... You still think Obama is on your side- dont you? Sad....
Most pols are on their own side or on the side of a corporate-ocracy (where we've been since the Reagan years).
Some pols have at least some recognition that to squeeze the middle class too much will kill the goose; some still believe in trickle down; and still others think doing away with regulations will free up biz capital and create more jobs.
Just look at the past 30 yrs of de-reg - where are all the jobs? In slave-wage markets.
They're just bringing US wages down to that level.
Most pols are on their own side or on the side of a corporate-ocracy (where we've been since the Reagan years).
Some pols have at least some recognition that to squeeze the middle class too much will kill the goose; some still believe in trickle down; and still others think doing away with regulations will free up biz capital and create more jobs.
Just look at the past 30 yrs of de-reg - where are all the jobs? In slave-wage markets.
They're just bringing US wages down to that level.
It seems like the best thing to do would be to change the name of the title of this video. I think it would really take care of most of the problems that people have with it.
"Chomsky Validates Ron Paul's Analysis of US Intervensionism."
The only thing Chomsky has defended Ron Paul for was saying that the reason behind terrorist attacks was NOT that they hate our freedoms but because they hat or policies.
THAT'S IT.
He has said nothing that should lead anyone to believe he is in favor of any of Paul's stated beliefs. Go see "Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul"
@Candyliz2003 in one of Chomsky's videos he said if he had to choose one of the candidates to have coffee with it would Dr Paul. yes in this vedio Chumsky agrees with Ron on this point but in all of Chumsky's lectures i heard he has very similar thought as Ron. I'm pretty sure he will vote Ron Paul as i'am too.
@thirdshift47 No. He did NOT say it was a pentagon review of the plane attacks it was about the reason behind the attacks - "They dont hate our freedom - they hate our policies."
THAT is what Chomsky was defending that Ron Paul said - NOTHING ELSE.
1.)Again.Where was the 9-11 commission ever mentioned?Your response simply confirmed my point;the fact that I didn't use the words 'reason behind' is irrellevant.
2.)Anyone that has followed Chomsky and Paul know that aside from their rhetorical similaritites(and even shared views on NAFTA,corporate structures and US imperialism)that these men lay on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
Chomsky's defense simply reveals his lack of standard partisanship.
@Candyliz2003 - It's not a misleading title. It's an accurate title. Never was it stated that Noam Chomsky supported Ron Paul for President, nor on any issues outside the ones presented, namely the wars we're involved in & the REAL reasons 'why they hate us.' Paul was booed for telling the truth. Chomsky defended what Paul had said. The country is involved in two killing campaigns & there is but one candidate among the leader contenders who's stated he wants them to end. What's important here?
YOU are portraying *his* views inaccurately - misleading those viewing the video and reading the commentary. I'm not alone in this criticism.
BTW - where do you think the Prez stands on the wars? He walks the walk *sensitively and sensibly* not just "cut and run" as some would say, not letting it drag another decade as others would prefer.
RON PAUL REALLY IS VERY DANGEROUS. Ron Paul supporters are living with blinders on, believing a loving, unicorn and rainbow fantasy world of Iranians who can't wait to be our friends when what they do to Americans is behead us entirely on religious grounds - there is no fear of consequence to them; they think that dying while killing us buys them heaven. CLICK ON MY NAME - TEA PARTY VICTORY - VIDEO TO JUST HOW DANGEROUS RON PAUL IS. Tread carefully; this is life or death if Iran gets nukes
to be fair, we are talking about REPUBLICAN debates.. The idea of america being the aggresor and even apologizing to Iran for the Iran-contra fiasco was discussed in length in the democratic primaries in 2008. Suggesting that we need to make ammends with the islamic world was cheered at the democratic rallies.
@2zfg - He defended him regarding the issues presented here. That doesn't mean he agrees with everything about Paul, so he may very well have criticized him for other things. That should have zero bearing on whether or not we should trust him.
@DrKenHildebrandt Paul and Chomsky, at a time in history where we minded our own business and followed the Constitution would be represent intellectual thought on the true left and right respectively. In this era, they will often end up on the same side because there is a group of people who undermine our basic values as Americans that are in power in both parties.
@2zfg Well, Chomsky is a socialist, as far as I'm aware. In addition to the undesirability of the wars of intervention and nation-building, Chomsky and Paul would probably agree on the need to end the war on drugs and the need to restore civil liberties, maybe even on the need to abolish the Federal Reserve and to restore commodity-backed currency. But, I'm guessing, they'd disagree on firearms, taxes, business-regulation and membership of international organizations.
@BIackOp I don't think so. I think, he would describe himself as a socialist (though, of course, some who would like to see a socialist society are nonetheless voluntarist). I know much more about Ron Paul, and, though I have never heard him refer to himself as a 'voluntarist' (he has referred to himself as a 'libertarian' and a 'constitutional conservative'), judging by his views, I would say that he is definitely a voluntarist.
@alvisc2002 I don't know, I always enjoy listening to Noam Chomsky. I don't want opinions. I want facts to contemplate. I want dispassionate, reasonable discourse. The beauty of people such as Chomsky lies in their commitment to sharing truth and fact, in order that we may come to our own more educated opinions, by ourselves. It's just my two cents, but I feel that without men like Noam Chomsky, we'd have no chance at democratic rule. He's a national treasure.
@WeThePeopleVStheNWO your comment promotes racism and also promotes a corporate-funded, radical right-wing politician who is against environmental regulation, banking/industry regulation, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, evolution, public education, etc., etc. ...
MICHAEL PARENTI, NOAM CHOMSKY, HOWARD ZINN, NAOMI KLEIN, CHRISTIAN PARENTI, GORE VIDAL, ARUNDHATI ROY, ROBERT FISK, VANDANA SHIVA, JASON BURKE, MARC BARRY, GREG PALAST, DAVID RAY GRIFFIN, ALEXANDER COCHBURN, GARY WEBB, BERTRAND RUSSELL, JOHN DEWEY, RALPH NADER, DENNIS KUCINICH, MICHAEL MOORE, GEORGE CARLIN, CORNEL WEST, JOHN PERKINS, ANTONY SUTTON, TARIQ ALI, EDWIN BLACK, SAMUEL EPSTEIN, AMY GOODMAN, JOHN STOCKWELL, MICHAEL RUPPERT, EDWARD SAID, WARD CHURCHILL, DANIEL ELLSBERG etc(NOT ron paul)
One of the biggest values of Mr. Chomsky is that he upsets the establishment apple cart. He asks tough questions and exposes great hypocrisy and he is much like Dr. Paul in that regard. But I wouldn't want either of them as president since neither knows how to compromise. Dr. Paul says he will do this and he will do that and some of those are good, very good. But he would be only one THIRD of the government, as the Founders intended, and has to work with the other two which seems unlikely.
@exenrontexas - Unfortunately, the other presented candidates are right with the other branches of government, so everything will stay the same if they get in. Perhaps, as what happened in my district recently, when the people in congress are allowed a chance to take a look at media censored positions, they will go against them. In other words, they would go with Paul, at least in some cases. He's wouldn't be a dictator, so it doesn't matter much if he doesn't compromise. Compromising can be bad
@DrKenHildebrandt Compromising MAY be bad when it is compromising with people who believe in totalitarian dictatorships who if they win an election it will be the last election. I believe that the Constitution is the mandate for the American people to get the government that they want and the Founders based their beliefs in the American people on their intelligence, patriotism and dedication to each other. There have been many missteps along the way and the current GOP is one.
@DrKenHildebrandt I agree that one of the strengths of America is it's separation of power but that in no way means that a weak Federal government is the best. The PEOPLE have mandated FOR regulation, Social Security, Medicare and welfare many times. Only a minority have lobbied against those social safety nets. It is true that some have been abused and undermined from powerful forces but overall they do what the PEOPLE intended them to do and solved serious problems.
if the American people would elect respectable people who aren't insider traders, and corrupt politicians, we wouldn't have to have the executive branch 'compromise' with the criminals. We need to stop being gullible and only elect people who have showed they can't be corrupted, we should not reelect a senator or congressman if he has defied the constitution even once.
@Chrishanks007 I agree SO how can we make that happen? Talking it up? Promoting education, opposing corrupting forces such as money in politics, promoting civics education in schools and returning America to the activism which characterized the population in 1900. After WWII, America began the slippery slide of complacency and obsession with material goods which were promoted by large corporations. We will lose our nation if we don't change.
Get the money out of politics as you said. Also, public schools don't teach kids what they need to know anymore, I'd encourage parents to homeschool their children or have them go to reliable private schools. If I had to get one message to people, it would be trust but verify. There are news agencies out there that tell truth 95% of the time, but every once and a while you'll notice they hush up on a key issue, so it's very deceiving and people need to be aware of it
@Chrishanks007 Another option is to fix the Public Schools which are the greatest single reason for American success. Adopt the view that a good public school system is essential for National Security which is what Eisenhower did. And contrary to the common (deceived) view, most of the mass media is owned by conservatives who DO control the message. There was a report that J P Morgan, war monger, Robber Baron and vulture capitalist worked aggressively to control the news media.
if most conservatives control the MSM then why do they attack Ron Paul who is a staunch conservative, some say libertarian, but his views are ultra small government. And then you don't see the media attack big government conservatives like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich as much. Perhaps you mean the media is controlled by big government conservatives, neocons perhaps? Either way, I've felt the MSM pushes corporate welfare candidates in either wing, left or right.
@Chrishanks007 Yes that is about right. When government exists for the sake of large corporations it is called corporatism aka fascism by the definition given by Benito Mussolini. Every years hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars are handed out to large corporations and every GOP candidate except Dr. Paul want that continued and they claim it is for the sake of the economy. But it is NOT our economy but rather THEIRS.
Also one issue of public schools is that public institutions may not teach a healthy distrust of the government. I wish people would think much more critically of their government, but if public schools were to teach that to kids, to be critical of government, could that perhaps be detrimental to the schools own existance?
@Chrishanks007 Probably true but once the validity of a government program is established, the public should back it strongly. Cause and effect. Discourage bad government and promote good. If the PEOPLE become continually involved like they used to be, then the PEOPLE will get exactly the government that they deserve.
Another point is that whatever is politically correct is not always true, but public schools will almost always teach what's politically correct and nothing else.
Also, people need to realize that experts are fallible. I think we'd have a much more informed society if people had a healthy distrust of the experts, people tend to blindly follow leaders, and that's what leads to people consuming opinions from the mainstream media instead of cross referencing the things that they're being told and coming to their own opinion.
@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
@djdoja And what EXACTLY does that mean? Does it mean that he IS uncompromising and ONLY believes in recruitment to HIS way of thinking. I have a better idea and that is that YOU investigate just how much Dr. Paul was walked the walk he says is good for others. Like his idol, Ayn Rand, Dr. Paul takes government handouts and welfare while railing against it. Want proof? Dr. Paul gets to write off travel, entertainment and other expense which INCREASES your tax but you cannot.
@exenrontexas You have a point. But one in which I think you did not think it all through. One presidential duty is that of Commander in Chief of the military. So Ron Paul can directly affect a good deal of the change he desires. His desire is for a limit in the scope of government, something he can also positively impact as the president.
@shadowpoetrk I agree but it depends on how much he agrees with the unitary power of the president. That is a principle that the NEOCONS have promoted for forty years. Cheney even said so, that the presidents doesn't NEED the agreement of Congress or the SCOTUS to do ANYTHING especially militarily. By Cheney's view, BUSH could have nuked Russia all on his own and many of his backers would have supported it. How much does Dr. Paul believe that he would be contrained by Congress?
@exenrontexas Compromise? Compromise is to what degree BOTH parties agree on infringing on our Bill of Rights and Constitution. Ron Paul doesn't want to be a powerful executive in control of everything. He wants to start doing LESS as soon as possible. The government is inflated and so is our currency.
@anthonyusman The FOUNDERS depended on Compromise to make things work. It is built into the Constitution. Without compromise America slides into chaos or dictatoship which almost happened under BUSH. And, of course, the greatest inflation of the government happened under BUSH with his wars based on LIES. But you are right that SOME compromises are bad like the compromise of SLAVERY which cost 600,000 Americans their lives in the Civil War. Imagine if the SOUTH had compromised?
@exenrontexas Compromising on certain things doesn't mean the government has the right to disregard the Constitution and the individual rights of the citizens. I don't know why you are bringing up Bush like he is the only one who has fought undeclared wars based on lies and inflated the size of government. Obama does it, Clinton did it, Bush Sr. did it, Reagan did it... it's just Keynesian central economic planning and endless wars being followed by all of them.
@anthonyusman Hmmm....perhaps and I support the view that the US should not go to war without Congress declaring that as the Constitution says. I bring up BUSH because his the very worst example in US history of the lies told by a president and the abuse of executive power. The very WORST EVER. IMHO the second worst was LBJ who lied America into the war in Vietnam. I have PERSONAL knowledge of that since I served TAD on the USS Turner Joy. AND Reaganomics was a TOTAL FAILURE..
Chomsky has always criticized Israel for its treatment of Palestinians. He is in no way a zionist. That is why he is almost never on mainstream media.
Would really love to know the name of the Defense Sciencec Board study. I checked the website and couldn't find it. If anyone else knows, I'd appreciate some help. This report will defintely silence those who continue to argue that Muslims hate American freedoms given the authority of the Pentagon.
The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations. See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different in the broad scope?
The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations. See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different in the broad scope?
The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations. See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different in the broad scope?
NIKOLA TESLA is the godfather of the 21 century screw politics I'm done with it because the Establishment isn't every truly letting us use the free energy that was invented by the greatest inventor of all time who figured out how to USE EARTH to power the world,, were only using ant power right now compared to what the earth has to offer for free and NIKOLA TESLA was pulling it Right Out Of Thin Air, because it's all around you but you don't even know it, and wireless electricity isn't new !!!!
Back to the 9/11 denial/truthers conversation that we were talking about the other day, keep in mind that there is a difference between believing that the govt covered up it's own breakdowns, negligence, and ineptitude VS believing that the govt covered up it's own participation in the attacks. Chomsky has talked about the former, and not a lot about the latter.
And don't say that is some kind of radical dream. It's not a Utopia to have what other nations have. It's not out of this world to have the same things that nations have with comparable in political and economic standards.
How about this...give me a president who wants to give their people free healthcare, free education, and a person who wants to feed the hungry, clothe those who are cold, house the homeless, give jobs to the jobless, and make the citizens of the USA healthy, wealthy and wise.
Some day, a President will take the military and defence budget and spend it taking care of their own people. A healthy, well-educated nation would be able to defend themselves and the economy would take care of itself.
Great example, FDR brought electricity to Texas. What do you think Texas would be like if FDR hadn't put federal dollars into bringing light to Texas? As a 76-year-old Texan born into the Depression who experienced the positive changes brought to the Lone Star State by the federal government, Paul should know better. That he does not reminds one of the observation of Prince Hal made of Falstaff: "How ill white hairs become a fool and jester."
For everyone who wants to hear what Noam Chomsky thinks about Ron Paul, check out this vid.
Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul, Kutztown University Nov. 21, 2011 - HQ
Noam Chomsky Comments on his views on Ron Paul. Courtesy of Kutztown University, full video can be found HERE: Please check it out! NEW HD by Hedstrom1973 | 1 week ago | 18,144 views
Ron Paul is a candidate who doesn't believe in what you believe in, even if he does oppose the war. The unstated assumption here is that the only antiwar candidate happens to be Ron Paul, but a vote for him is a vote for anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, "passively racist and homophobic" with no health, no education, and more private control over corporation.
@ResolutionismTube So... Who do YOU support? And the case you are making against Paul's policies is weak because all you say is that they will be disastrous without offering a reason why? Plus, you misrepresent Paul, e.g., a vote for Paul is a vote for anti-immigration---that is a mistake I wish you'd correct along with "no health, no education," etc., You make your case by misrepresenting his views.
I offered several reasons why I think Ron Paul's policies would lead to a disaster, and I can give you more if your interested, there's no shortage of supply. Don't take my word for it, look it up. I can give you my sources if you like, but you don't have to look very hard to see it, you simply choose not to see it. It's all very clear.
@ResolutionismTube You did not answer my question: who do you support? And I'll say it again---Ron Paul's views are not anti-immigration. Do you agree or disagree? Have you misrepresented his views or not?
I don't support any of them. Not a single one. I don't care WHO becomes President, all I care about is that person's policies. None of the Republican candidates have policies that I support. Some of the policies Ron Paul talks about are ok, but some are out of this world, and will continue to drive America into a ditch.
As for your comments that I made a mistake, take a look at his own campaign strategy. He has a commercial running on anti-immigration where his policy states: "Physically secure the border"..."No Amnesty"..."No Welfare to Illegal Immigrants"..."End Birthright Citizenship"...and of course my favorite..."No More Student VISA's from Terrorist Nations."
@ResolutionismTube Yes, you did misrepresent his views: Paul is not anti-immigration; he is anti-ILLEGAL immigration. Hopefully, you are aware of the difference. How can Paul's policies CONTINUE to drive America into a ditch when they haven't been tried? It's the policies you advocate:government involvement in health care and education that have driven America into a ditch. You want to carry on the same failed policies and call "out of this world" Paul's untried solutions.
His supporters on the right, are conservatives that are sick of the spending, and his supporters on the left are anti-war. Democrats are losing faith in Obama, because he was hyped too much in the beginning, and they are beginning to see some bright ideas from the Right. But they aren't really paying attention to the rest of his policies.
The formula of supporting a candidate with antiwar views, no matter where they stand on other issues, could be disastrous.
So, yes it's nice to see some people are waking up and deciding to vote against war. This is good. But this is also being used as a device to bring leftists into the right.
Paul gained left endorsements because he has taken a stand against the "war on terror" that few Democrats dare to. He supports repeal of the USA PATRIOT Act and opposes an attack on Iran. This is all smart, logical, and morally right.
But that's not all Ron Paul stands for--far from it.
Besides, some of his ideas will never be permitted by the business world. They would never allow it to happen because it would destroy the economy, in whatever state it is now, it would be much worse. Business can't stay alive without the powerful help they receive from government, and they know it. Corporate managers have driven their companies into bankruptcy over and over again, and without the government to bail them out, they will all fall apart.
While Ron Paul has a few smart ideas, he also has some pretty scary ideas on how America should be run. He's a nice and likeable guy, and people find it easy to get behind him, but take a look at his policies and look closely at them because it's basically a call for corporate tyranny, capitalist growth concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people, at the expense of working people, the poor, the unhealthy, the uneducated, etc.
@ResolutionismTube the 'uncontrolled growth" of corporations was the direct result of government intervention: protectionist policies that favorted the big corporations stifled a truly free market. Obama's bail-out was THE major example. Instead of allowing the dinosaurs to die out naturally and making way for renewed economic growth, we have indebted the taxpayers to a policy of stagnation.
Uncontrolled growth of corporations was the direct result of non-governmental intervention. You must have forgotten that it was 2008 when Bush started the bail-outs--and if there was no bail-outs your country would be a smoking crater in the Earth right now, because once again...(happens all the time) the private tyranny of the corporations mis-managed their businesses into the ground. The government saved your asses.
I will agree that the tax-payers are indebted, but that is because you elected Bush who sent your country to a Trillion dollar war... it isn't because of government intervention in the economy--that's just stupid.
...Paul believes that environmental legislation, such as emissions standards, should be handled between the states or regions concerned, saying..."The people of Texas do not need federal regulators determining our air standards." In October 2007, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization."
@ResolutionismTube "climate change" has yet to be proven. UN propoganda aside, the OBJECTIVE facts don't support it. And even if it did, the UN's plans are simply a back-door scheme to make certain nations pay for 3rd world countries' industrialization, while, once again, the big corporations make money by ecological services mandated by international law.
...in fact, most of his views on "civil liberties" are from la-la-land. In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed "any claim involving the laws, regulations, or policies of any State or unit of local government relating to the free exercise or establishment of religion. If made law, it would permit state, county, and local governments to decide whether to allow displays of religious text and imagery. So, Texas would teach science according to the gospels.
...at the GOP debate, saying he would like to see the FAA abolished and the job of air traffic control handed over to the airlines. That is one idea that simply just won’t work. Look people, you’re lucky if the airlines get your bag to your destination. Can you imagine what would happen if the airlines were suddenly in charge of the traffic control? It would be absolute madness!...
@ResolutionismTube I've worked for the government in different capacities for 12 years, and have worked different jobs both for the gov't and have done the exact same work for the private sector and I can see clearly that you haven't any idea what you are talking about. Everything the government touches turns to wasteful shit, literally EVERYTHING. Privatizing the air traffic controllers would guarantee a great increase in efficiency overnight.
Would it be better if the police were private and you could only get police protection if you paid the cops out of your own pocket? Would it be better if the fire-fighters were privately owned, and the only way to get a fire put out is if you pay them? If you don't pay them, they don't put the fire out.
@varanid9 p.s. you think the US is a "free market," you think all "socialist" countries collapse (socialist Norway has the highest GDP in the world...), and you think that climate change is "UN propaganda." you've been watching/listening to too much right-wing radio...
...Paul's policies would destroy America in his first term, and it would take the country back to the Peonage days before FDR. Firstly, his commitment to reduce and eliminate federal involvement in: health, education...anything, and he believes in "small government"-by which he means eliminating the federal government's already shredded social safety net. Good luck in a country with no education and no healthcare. You already have the worst health system of all g-20 nations. You want worse?..
You mean rich people. Rich people from socialist healthcare countries can afford to choose to have medical procedures in their own countries for free or in America for a high price. Poor people don't have that choice, they stay in Canada and England and receive medical care for free.
What about your country, where rich people can receive medical care, but the poor can't. At least the poor in Canada can get healthcare. What do you say to the poor in your country? Answer: Fuck you.
that was an excellent concept at the end there: embargos force the population to embrace their dictators rather than to expel them. history seems to bear that out.
etzel33 1 day ago
'Naom and Paul are wrong here..... they hating us for our policies is old ...very old. Now they hate us because they want an islamic world.)
When i meant " they" i mean ...al queda,taliban,Pak army/ISI,islamist leaning Youth *(10-40 yrs) in UK,US,West, turks in germany, france ,radicals in Africa, idonesia,malay ,and india.
They hate us because we are not muslims.!period.
FransisR 2 days ago
@FransisR You're the one who's absolutely wrong. Hating the US for being a powerful non-Muslim nation was not the inspiration behind the 9-1-1 bombings. Have you ever watched any of the Osama bin Laden videos released by the Pentagon? All he talks about is his disagreement with US policies.
mobus1603 1 day ago
@awhitesoul2012 Eventually the whole world population will be a mix of all ethnicities. We'll all be coffee coloured. How do you feel about that? I am white and I for one couldn't give two shits if my children were black, white, yellow, brown or red - they'll still be human. Go burn a cross you racist fuck.
DenizenOD 5 days ago
@DenizenOD lol.... your a self-loathing fag!!
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awhitesoul2012 1 week ago
You wrote -- We have evience shuddup. My response -- Can you give just one ? I don't want theory a d idea but physical evidence. What about morality, imagination, dream, language etc. From where, we received all these ? By the way, how many people would you try to shutup ? Only fool can believe in evolution theory.
samaroo96 1 week ago
"New findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than a hypothesis. In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly disciplines. The convergence in the results of these independent studies—which was neither planned nor sought—constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory."
- the fool who believes this? Pope Jean-Paul II.
mojo972 1 week ago
@samaroo96 evidence? fossils seem to be pretty good evidence.
mojo972 1 week ago
@mojo972 Fossil is just a impression of bone, leaf, plant in mud which gradually becomes solid rock after certain temperature, compression and atmosphere. If you keep a flower in your Book and put some weight and leave it for couple of month or longer. It would be consider kind of fossil too. Just getting fossil does not proof that our ancestors were apes or we share common ancestors. Till today we have received fossils of 100% plants, animals or insects. Please provide any other proof.
samaroo96 1 week ago
@samaroo96 im not referring to the process of fossilisation - im talking about the fossil record - which clearly shows evolution in action.
To my regret i know little about science - I tend to put my trust in people such as Darwin, who dedicated their lives to studying the natural world. Science may be imperfect, but its all we have to understand the world around us.
As I said in my previous post, even the late Pope wasnt 'foolish' enough to doubt the truth of our origins....
mojo972 1 week ago
@samaroo96 re. other types of proof, my understanding is that genetics have confirmed Darwin beyond any doubt... but then I have the feeling that youre the sort of person who doesnt value 'proof' of any kind...
mojo972 1 week ago
Not safe for presidential candidates to speak the truth or common sense
ASKaPHYSICIST 1 week ago
NIce video. I wouldn't have guessed Chomsky would say something positive about Ron Paul.
RefractableMe 1 week ago
NC is probably going to disagree with RP's domestic policy. But I would like to see NC talk about what HE thinks the role of the federal gov't should be.
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awhitesoul2012 1 week ago
Just because Ron Paul & Noam Chomsky agree on SOME THINGS it doesn't mean suddenly mean that EVERYTHING Ron Paul stands for is a great idea. Ron Paul attracts conspiracy theorist weirdos, anti-Semies (who blend right in with LEGITIMATE critics of American foreign policy), racists like the ones found in Stormfront who endorse Ron Paul, the politically misinformed, & unreasonable libertarian ideologues. Hitler liked dogs. I like dogs. THAT doesn't mean I should ebrace everything Hitler stood for
FuckPropertyRights 1 week ago
@FuckPropertyRights actually you have it completely backwards. search "The Founding of the Federal Reserve | Murray N. Rothbard"
RefractableMe 1 week ago
this whole ron paul thing is quite disturbing. yes, it's refreshing that he's not calling for the nuking of iran and has sane views on 9/11, but he's a climate change denier, homophobic, doesn't believe in evolution,will shut down the IRS, and won't allow poor people to get healthcare or a decent education.
ollieeSkate 2 weeks ago
@ollieeSkate That is a one sided spin. Explain why hundreds of millions of years ago our CO2 levels were way higher and the Earth had its most fertile period with record growth rates for plants? He also thinks a free society would not care who married who- and no one group should ever get benefits over another. Evolution- stop watching highly edited videos, its a non issue to him. You like paying taxes? Totally wrong on healthcare and education- they suck b/c of the govt.
EgadsNo 2 weeks ago
@EgadsNo i'm not going to debate with a climate change denier as you can easily look up anything, online or otherwise, that will prove me (and science) right. I have watched no edited videos, again, look it up right now: type in "ron paul evolution" and its the 4th video down. if you want to see him use homophobic language look up his part in the movie "bruno" (not that it ultimately matters for policy but still) and yes, taxes for hospitals and help for struggling families sounds good to me
ollieeSkate 2 weeks ago
@ollieeSkate Man made climate change is an old scam to benefit corporations. look up "The Founding of the Federal Reserve | Murray N. Rothbard" BTW taxes don't benefit struggling families. It causes more people to struggle by wasting money that could have been used responsibly to be spent on more military and police. It never gets to the poor because its not designed to. listen to Rothbard.
RefractableMe 1 week ago
@RefractableMe I refuse to try and "make a case" for climate change as it is not even something to be debated. You can accept it and try to do something about it, or ignore it and be a crackpot.as for taxes you're absolutely right, that's why we should be cutting military spending and actually getting it to the struggling families, not abolishing it completely. and since ron can't give a straight answer ill ask you. if a poor person gets sick and can't afford treatment, are they allowed to die?
ollieeSkate 1 week ago
@EgadsNo LOL yep
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@ollieeSkate The climate does change. Its called seasons, the earth spins around the sun. Man made climate change is shown to be less then a percent. That can be easily solved a whole lot of ways. Evolution and nature is why Ron Paul is right. Check out the Rothbard video to understand the POV. and to answer your slanted question, Yes a poor person would be "allowed" to die. However it would never happen...."The Founding of the Federal Reserve | Murray N. Rothbard"
RefractableMe 1 week ago
Ron Paul is a dick
fearghalgill 2 weeks ago
@fearghalgill suck him then..
iLoveNordTheGL 2 weeks ago
At :18 Noam says "I saw that." then he immediately catches himself and says
"I didn't see it. I read about it."
Oh ya Noam. Right.
I bet Noam likes to secretly hunker down in front of the tube for hours, munching Chitos swilling beer, and surfing through Fox News, the football game, reality tv.
Or maybe he's an ice cream & daytime soap opera man...
mybagitchesalot 3 weeks ago
@mybagitchesalot - Not even close. I know Noam well enough after almost ten years to tell you that he rarely watches anything. He "saw" it in print. You have no idea how hard this man works and how much he reads everyday. If enough others worked one-tenth as hard as he does the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, few do anything constructive. Most ignore things, and then there are some who use their time making a joke of our entire situation. It's up to you what category you belong to.
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@DrKenHildebrandt WOW, really? Hey thank you so much for clarifying that for me, Dr Ken. Golly, you mean you actually KNOW Noam? Wow. And you being a Dr and all. And now you actually responded to my Youtube comment. WOW! I guess that makes me almost as important as you think you almost are, Dr Ken.
But golly Dr Ken, are you really sure Noam never maybe sneeks off for a peek at the Colbert Report, or reruns of Monty Python?
Have you ever heard of a concept called humour Dr Ken?
mybagitchesalot 3 weeks ago
@mybagitchesalot - When you're talking about hundreds of thousands of children who died due to our sanctions, yet the general population for the most part didn't even know about it, hence they bought into the whole, 'They hate our freedom' thing, humor has no place. Then there's the whole Palestinian issue. The other day a little girl was shot as she was playing near the wall. She'll be paralyzed for life, yet they booed Ron Paul over this. There's a time and a place for humor and this isn't it.
DrKenHildebrandt 3 weeks ago 24
@DrKenHildebrandt I've stopped watching TV entirely in the past 6 months, I didn't watch it a lot before but I'm so glad I've stopped. It's such a time waster, such a bitter, cynical "hate your fellow human" mindset they're just pouring into your head. I've come to see TV as the biggest enemy we have in this country to any sort of change.
TheDystopiaInside 2 weeks ago
@TheDystopiaInside - Well stated. "The greatest weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed," as Steve Biko said, and TV sure does have control of people's minds, at least here in the US anyway.
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@DrKenHildebrandt
You say you "know Noam well enough" yet you portray him as defending Ron Paul.
There is enough video just here on YouTube that has Chomsky stating in his own words that he finds Paul's policies to be off the wall.
Here's the proof:
youtube.com/watch?v=wAt1ySNF6yg
Candyliz2003 2 weeks ago
@mybagitchesalot If you can't present sound arguments against your opponents, do not despair: cherrypicking linguistic minutia in their speech will do just as well.
Well done!
Bulhakas 2 weeks ago
@mybagitchesalot Nice trolling bro
FrozenPetrolPie 2 weeks ago
I'm NOT voting for Ron Paul!!!
THUMBS UP!!!
Candyliz2003 3 weeks ago
@Candyliz2003
Had to do that... stupid Ronulens!
Candyliz2003 3 weeks ago
@Candyliz2003 Uhm Ron Pauls foreign policy is analogous to the prime directive- while the alternative is used by dictatorships that aggressively interfere and highly influence their public like those on Romulus... You still think Obama is on your side- dont you? Sad....
EgadsNo 2 weeks ago
@EgadsNo
Most pols are on their own side or on the side of a corporate-ocracy (where we've been since the Reagan years).
Some pols have at least some recognition that to squeeze the middle class too much will kill the goose; some still believe in trickle down; and still others think doing away with regulations will free up biz capital and create more jobs.
Just look at the past 30 yrs of de-reg - where are all the jobs? In slave-wage markets.
They're just bringing US wages down to that level.
Candyliz2003 2 weeks ago
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@EgadsNo
Most pols are on their own side or on the side of a corporate-ocracy (where we've been since the Reagan years).
Some pols have at least some recognition that to squeeze the middle class too much will kill the goose; some still believe in trickle down; and still others think doing away with regulations will free up biz capital and create more jobs.
Just look at the past 30 yrs of de-reg - where are all the jobs? In slave-wage markets.
They're just bringing US wages down to that level.
Candyliz2003 2 weeks ago
@Candyliz2003 I'm an idiot like Candyliz Thumps up!!!
mikizzle1 2 weeks ago
@mikizzle1
Get "thumped".
Candyliz2003 2 weeks ago
@fiveoclockpunk You have NO clue about Dr Pauls policies if you think that. His policies create a huge middle class.
benandreas369 3 weeks ago
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@DrKenHildebrandt et. al
It seems like the best thing to do would be to change the name of the title of this video. I think it would really take care of most of the problems that people have with it.
"Chomsky Validates Ron Paul's Analysis of US Intervensionism."
ResolutionismTube 4 weeks ago
The only thing Chomsky has defended Ron Paul for was saying that the reason behind terrorist attacks was NOT that they hate our freedoms but because they hat or policies.
THAT'S IT.
He has said nothing that should lead anyone to believe he is in favor of any of Paul's stated beliefs. Go see "Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul"
youtube.com/watch?=wAt1ySNF6yg&feature=related
Candyliz2003 4 weeks ago
@Candyliz2003 in one of Chomsky's videos he said if he had to choose one of the candidates to have coffee with it would Dr Paul. yes in this vedio Chumsky agrees with Ron on this point but in all of Chumsky's lectures i heard he has very similar thought as Ron. I'm pretty sure he will vote Ron Paul as i'am too.
47cargo 3 weeks ago
@47cargo
Get the facts before you spread the lies.
Have you ever listened to Chomsky's lectures?
Here is the sound bite you refer to:
youtube.com/watch?v=wAt1ySNF6yg
Chomsky is very clear in his disdain for Paul's and most Libertarian policies in it.
He even laughs in a way that suggests he thinks Paul is off the wall.
Candyliz2003 3 weeks ago
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Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Where exactly did Chomsky mention the 9-11 commission?
The man specifically spoke of a Pentagon review of the plane attacks.
Considering the Pentagon is the holiest of institutions amongst the very people that booed Paul,I'd say his defense of the guy is significant.
thirdshift47 1 month ago
@thirdshift47 No. He did NOT say it was a pentagon review of the plane attacks it was about the reason behind the attacks - "They dont hate our freedom - they hate our policies."
THAT is what Chomsky was defending that Ron Paul said - NOTHING ELSE.
Candyliz2003 4 weeks ago
@Candyliz2003
1.)Again.Where was the 9-11 commission ever mentioned?Your response simply confirmed my point;the fact that I didn't use the words 'reason behind' is irrellevant.
2.)Anyone that has followed Chomsky and Paul know that aside from their rhetorical similaritites(and even shared views on NAFTA,corporate structures and US imperialism)that these men lay on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
Chomsky's defense simply reveals his lack of standard partisanship.
thirdshift47 3 weeks ago
@thirdshift47
I clarified - you should have no problem understanding.
My problem is with the portrayal of Chomsky as "defender" of Ron Paul, and, there are several other people who've said the same thing.
It's a misleading title.
Candyliz2003 3 weeks ago
@Candyliz2003 - It's not a misleading title. It's an accurate title. Never was it stated that Noam Chomsky supported Ron Paul for President, nor on any issues outside the ones presented, namely the wars we're involved in & the REAL reasons 'why they hate us.' Paul was booed for telling the truth. Chomsky defended what Paul had said. The country is involved in two killing campaigns & there is but one candidate among the leader contenders who's stated he wants them to end. What's important here?
DrKenHildebrandt 2 weeks ago
@DrKenHildebrandt
YOU said you know Chomsky well.
YOU said you believe he will vote for Paul.
YOU are portraying *his* views inaccurately - misleading those viewing the video and reading the commentary. I'm not alone in this criticism.
BTW - where do you think the Prez stands on the wars? He walks the walk *sensitively and sensibly* not just "cut and run" as some would say, not letting it drag another decade as others would prefer.
Obama will be re-elected.
Candyliz2003 2 weeks ago
MoRon Paul 2012!
I heard that MoRon Paul is still in the race. What a waste!
tr2006x 1 month ago
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RON PAUL REALLY IS VERY DANGEROUS. Ron Paul supporters are living with blinders on, believing a loving, unicorn and rainbow fantasy world of Iranians who can't wait to be our friends when what they do to Americans is behead us entirely on religious grounds - there is no fear of consequence to them; they think that dying while killing us buys them heaven. CLICK ON MY NAME - TEA PARTY VICTORY - VIDEO TO JUST HOW DANGEROUS RON PAUL IS. Tread carefully; this is life or death if Iran gets nukes
TeaPartyVictory 1 month ago
Ron Paul is getting my vote in the Republican primary.
8s8lw8d 1 month ago 3
The only reason I support Ron Paul is because I read Karl Marx's analysis of capitalism...LoL...
PrimeConsciousness 1 month ago 2
to be fair, we are talking about REPUBLICAN debates.. The idea of america being the aggresor and even apologizing to Iran for the Iran-contra fiasco was discussed in length in the democratic primaries in 2008. Suggesting that we need to make ammends with the islamic world was cheered at the democratic rallies.
smokydave 1 month ago
@smokydave - Sure didn't make any difference though, did it?
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I just watched a youtube video in wich Chomsky dogs Ron Paul...should we trust Chomsky's honesty on any of his opinions?
2zfg 1 month ago
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I just watched a youtube video in wich Chomsky dogs Ron Paul...should we trust Chomsky's honesty on any of his opinions?
2zfg 1 month ago
@2zfg - He defended him regarding the issues presented here. That doesn't mean he agrees with everything about Paul, so he may very well have criticized him for other things. That should have zero bearing on whether or not we should trust him.
DrKenHildebrandt 1 month ago 46
@DrKenHildebrandt Paul and Chomsky, at a time in history where we minded our own business and followed the Constitution would be represent intellectual thought on the true left and right respectively. In this era, they will often end up on the same side because there is a group of people who undermine our basic values as Americans that are in power in both parties.
avintar 1 month ago
@2zfg Well, Chomsky is a socialist, as far as I'm aware. In addition to the undesirability of the wars of intervention and nation-building, Chomsky and Paul would probably agree on the need to end the war on drugs and the need to restore civil liberties, maybe even on the need to abolish the Federal Reserve and to restore commodity-backed currency. But, I'm guessing, they'd disagree on firearms, taxes, business-regulation and membership of international organizations.
SkullOfYorick 1 month ago
@SkullOfYorick Is Chomsky a Voluntarist?
BIackOp 1 month ago
@BIackOp I don't think so. I think, he would describe himself as a socialist (though, of course, some who would like to see a socialist society are nonetheless voluntarist). I know much more about Ron Paul, and, though I have never heard him refer to himself as a 'voluntarist' (he has referred to himself as a 'libertarian' and a 'constitutional conservative'), judging by his views, I would say that he is definitely a voluntarist.
SkullOfYorick 1 month ago
@SkullOfYorick Yeah nailed it. Their differences are philosophical i think. When it comes to foreign policy you just have to look at the facts.
datasoluble 1 month ago
@2zfg don't be fooled. Chomsky isn't a liberal or a conservative. he's one of those "i'm on the side of truth and fact" guys.
ugh. i wish he were more opinionated instead of factual :(
opinions are more fun.
alvisc2002 1 month ago
@alvisc2002 I don't know, I always enjoy listening to Noam Chomsky. I don't want opinions. I want facts to contemplate. I want dispassionate, reasonable discourse. The beauty of people such as Chomsky lies in their commitment to sharing truth and fact, in order that we may come to our own more educated opinions, by ourselves. It's just my two cents, but I feel that without men like Noam Chomsky, we'd have no chance at democratic rule. He's a national treasure.
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@dpjaexp "commitment to sharing truth and fact,"
You haven't been listening.
"no chance at democratic rule. " - It's good that you can be forced to do something, anything, against your will?
"national treasure." - Ah, nationalism, the source of great evil. A "national treasure" is an oxymoron.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@2zfg
you only get the simplistic stuff, huh? black and white, right and wrong? yup.
kuntyfucstik 1 month ago
I'm RACIST for criticizing Obama.
TERRORIST because I'm not with Bush.
ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Rothschild Zionism.
TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution.
TRUTH-ER for asking unanswered questions.
TRAITOR for whistle-blowing on my corrupt Government.
CONSPIRACY THEORIST for presenting documented facts.
TROLL for uploading news, videos, quotes and U.S.Atrocities.
ANTI-AMERICAN for supporting Constitutionalists like Dr. Ron Paul.
RON PAUL 2012!
WeThePeopleVStheNWO 1 month ago 17
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jannonymous 1 month ago
One of the biggest values of Mr. Chomsky is that he upsets the establishment apple cart. He asks tough questions and exposes great hypocrisy and he is much like Dr. Paul in that regard. But I wouldn't want either of them as president since neither knows how to compromise. Dr. Paul says he will do this and he will do that and some of those are good, very good. But he would be only one THIRD of the government, as the Founders intended, and has to work with the other two which seems unlikely.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas - Unfortunately, the other presented candidates are right with the other branches of government, so everything will stay the same if they get in. Perhaps, as what happened in my district recently, when the people in congress are allowed a chance to take a look at media censored positions, they will go against them. In other words, they would go with Paul, at least in some cases. He's wouldn't be a dictator, so it doesn't matter much if he doesn't compromise. Compromising can be bad
DrKenHildebrandt 1 month ago 4
@DrKenHildebrandt Compromising MAY be bad when it is compromising with people who believe in totalitarian dictatorships who if they win an election it will be the last election. I believe that the Constitution is the mandate for the American people to get the government that they want and the Founders based their beliefs in the American people on their intelligence, patriotism and dedication to each other. There have been many missteps along the way and the current GOP is one.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@DrKenHildebrandt I agree that one of the strengths of America is it's separation of power but that in no way means that a weak Federal government is the best. The PEOPLE have mandated FOR regulation, Social Security, Medicare and welfare many times. Only a minority have lobbied against those social safety nets. It is true that some have been abused and undermined from powerful forces but overall they do what the PEOPLE intended them to do and solved serious problems.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas
if the American people would elect respectable people who aren't insider traders, and corrupt politicians, we wouldn't have to have the executive branch 'compromise' with the criminals. We need to stop being gullible and only elect people who have showed they can't be corrupted, we should not reelect a senator or congressman if he has defied the constitution even once.
Chrishanks007 1 month ago
@Chrishanks007 I agree SO how can we make that happen? Talking it up? Promoting education, opposing corrupting forces such as money in politics, promoting civics education in schools and returning America to the activism which characterized the population in 1900. After WWII, America began the slippery slide of complacency and obsession with material goods which were promoted by large corporations. We will lose our nation if we don't change.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas
Get the money out of politics as you said. Also, public schools don't teach kids what they need to know anymore, I'd encourage parents to homeschool their children or have them go to reliable private schools. If I had to get one message to people, it would be trust but verify. There are news agencies out there that tell truth 95% of the time, but every once and a while you'll notice they hush up on a key issue, so it's very deceiving and people need to be aware of it
Chrishanks007 1 month ago
@Chrishanks007 Another option is to fix the Public Schools which are the greatest single reason for American success. Adopt the view that a good public school system is essential for National Security which is what Eisenhower did. And contrary to the common (deceived) view, most of the mass media is owned by conservatives who DO control the message. There was a report that J P Morgan, war monger, Robber Baron and vulture capitalist worked aggressively to control the news media.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas
if most conservatives control the MSM then why do they attack Ron Paul who is a staunch conservative, some say libertarian, but his views are ultra small government. And then you don't see the media attack big government conservatives like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich as much. Perhaps you mean the media is controlled by big government conservatives, neocons perhaps? Either way, I've felt the MSM pushes corporate welfare candidates in either wing, left or right.
Chrishanks007 1 month ago
@Chrishanks007 Yes that is about right. When government exists for the sake of large corporations it is called corporatism aka fascism by the definition given by Benito Mussolini. Every years hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars are handed out to large corporations and every GOP candidate except Dr. Paul want that continued and they claim it is for the sake of the economy. But it is NOT our economy but rather THEIRS.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
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Chrishanks007 1 month ago
@exenrontexas
Also one issue of public schools is that public institutions may not teach a healthy distrust of the government. I wish people would think much more critically of their government, but if public schools were to teach that to kids, to be critical of government, could that perhaps be detrimental to the schools own existance?
Chrishanks007 1 month ago
@Chrishanks007 Probably true but once the validity of a government program is established, the public should back it strongly. Cause and effect. Discourage bad government and promote good. If the PEOPLE become continually involved like they used to be, then the PEOPLE will get exactly the government that they deserve.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas
Another point is that whatever is politically correct is not always true, but public schools will almost always teach what's politically correct and nothing else.
Chrishanks007 1 month ago
@exenrontexas
Also, people need to realize that experts are fallible. I think we'd have a much more informed society if people had a healthy distrust of the experts, people tend to blindly follow leaders, and that's what leads to people consuming opinions from the mainstream media instead of cross referencing the things that they're being told and coming to their own opinion.
Chrishanks007 1 month ago
@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
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@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
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@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
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@Chrishanks007 I think that the internet is a great tool for that and we need to make certain that the internet is free in scope and access. I agree that we need to question those things which we believe and what others tell us to believe but once we have confirmed the truth of it we need to dedicate our lives to supporting it. I am a Christian and I believe that the kingdom of God is the very best government. The Constitution is second best.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas
What DrKenHildebrandt said is correct. To add, Ron Paul has stated he doesn't believe in compromise. He believes in coalition.
djdoja 1 month ago
@djdoja And what EXACTLY does that mean? Does it mean that he IS uncompromising and ONLY believes in recruitment to HIS way of thinking. I have a better idea and that is that YOU investigate just how much Dr. Paul was walked the walk he says is good for others. Like his idol, Ayn Rand, Dr. Paul takes government handouts and welfare while railing against it. Want proof? Dr. Paul gets to write off travel, entertainment and other expense which INCREASES your tax but you cannot.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas You have a point. But one in which I think you did not think it all through. One presidential duty is that of Commander in Chief of the military. So Ron Paul can directly affect a good deal of the change he desires. His desire is for a limit in the scope of government, something he can also positively impact as the president.
shadowpoetrk 1 month ago
@shadowpoetrk I agree but it depends on how much he agrees with the unitary power of the president. That is a principle that the NEOCONS have promoted for forty years. Cheney even said so, that the presidents doesn't NEED the agreement of Congress or the SCOTUS to do ANYTHING especially militarily. By Cheney's view, BUSH could have nuked Russia all on his own and many of his backers would have supported it. How much does Dr. Paul believe that he would be contrained by Congress?
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas Compromise? Compromise is to what degree BOTH parties agree on infringing on our Bill of Rights and Constitution. Ron Paul doesn't want to be a powerful executive in control of everything. He wants to start doing LESS as soon as possible. The government is inflated and so is our currency.
anthonyusman 3 weeks ago
@anthonyusman The FOUNDERS depended on Compromise to make things work. It is built into the Constitution. Without compromise America slides into chaos or dictatoship which almost happened under BUSH. And, of course, the greatest inflation of the government happened under BUSH with his wars based on LIES. But you are right that SOME compromises are bad like the compromise of SLAVERY which cost 600,000 Americans their lives in the Civil War. Imagine if the SOUTH had compromised?
exenrontexas 3 weeks ago
@exenrontexas Compromising on certain things doesn't mean the government has the right to disregard the Constitution and the individual rights of the citizens. I don't know why you are bringing up Bush like he is the only one who has fought undeclared wars based on lies and inflated the size of government. Obama does it, Clinton did it, Bush Sr. did it, Reagan did it... it's just Keynesian central economic planning and endless wars being followed by all of them.
anthonyusman 3 weeks ago
@anthonyusman Hmmm....perhaps and I support the view that the US should not go to war without Congress declaring that as the Constitution says. I bring up BUSH because his the very worst example in US history of the lies told by a president and the abuse of executive power. The very WORST EVER. IMHO the second worst was LBJ who lied America into the war in Vietnam. I have PERSONAL knowledge of that since I served TAD on the USS Turner Joy. AND Reaganomics was a TOTAL FAILURE..
exenrontexas 3 weeks ago
Chomsky has always criticized Israel for its treatment of Palestinians. He is in no way a zionist. That is why he is almost never on mainstream media.
thetawaves48 1 month ago 11
@thetawaves48 - Exactly.
DrKenHildebrandt 1 month ago
@thetawaves48 Pretty much.
fandanstan 1 month ago
Would really love to know the name of the Defense Sciencec Board study. I checked the website and couldn't find it. If anyone else knows, I'd appreciate some help. This report will defintely silence those who continue to argue that Muslims hate American freedoms given the authority of the Pentagon.
AbsentDog 1 month ago
I'm a muslim....I know that this right here is a true jew. All these zionist posers don't represent shit. Love to every peace loving bro in humanity
downstreamlife 1 month ago
@downstreamlife Chomsky a zionist? Wow... soon you'll be telling me that Donald Duck is the moon.
MENJAGVETJUINTE 1 month ago
The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations. See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different in the broad scope?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
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The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations. See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different in the broad scope?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
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The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations.
See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different after all?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
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The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations.
See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different after all?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations.
See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different after all?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
Found one more stat on the Doctor issue for you.
Practicing Physicians per 1000 Population Ranked by Country- OECD 2009 Report
SOURCE: OECD Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development
#1 Greece 5.35 Doctors Per 1000
#22 UK 2.48
#23 US 2.43
#26 Canada 2.18
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
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The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations.
See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different after all?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations.
See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different after all?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
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The Scandinavian countries were all in the top 10, as well as some other democratic socialist nations. See how the doctor count between Canada UK and US isn't all that different in the broad scope?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
Anyways, that's all I got for a little while.
I really enjoy these conversations though, keep it up!
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
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NIKOLA TESLA is the godfather of the 21 century screw politics I'm done with it because the Establishment isn't every truly letting us use the free energy that was invented by the greatest inventor of all time who figured out how to USE EARTH to power the world,, were only using ant power right now compared to what the earth has to offer for free and NIKOLA TESLA was pulling it Right Out Of Thin Air, because it's all around you but you don't even know it, and wireless electricity isn't new !!!!
1we7the8people6 1 month ago
@tomsatriano
Back to the 9/11 denial/truthers conversation that we were talking about the other day, keep in mind that there is a difference between believing that the govt covered up it's own breakdowns, negligence, and ineptitude VS believing that the govt covered up it's own participation in the attacks. Chomsky has talked about the former, and not a lot about the latter.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
Any questions?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
And don't say that is some kind of radical dream. It's not a Utopia to have what other nations have. It's not out of this world to have the same things that nations have with comparable in political and economic standards.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
How about this...give me a president who wants to give their people free healthcare, free education, and a person who wants to feed the hungry, clothe those who are cold, house the homeless, give jobs to the jobless, and make the citizens of the USA healthy, wealthy and wise.
Some day, a President will take the military and defence budget and spend it taking care of their own people. A healthy, well-educated nation would be able to defend themselves and the economy would take care of itself.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
Great example, FDR brought electricity to Texas. What do you think Texas would be like if FDR hadn't put federal dollars into bringing light to Texas? As a 76-year-old Texan born into the Depression who experienced the positive changes brought to the Lone Star State by the federal government, Paul should know better. That he does not reminds one of the observation of Prince Hal made of Falstaff: "How ill white hairs become a fool and jester."
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
i dont see why people are against ron paul
katiepeace16 1 month ago
For everyone who wants to hear what Noam Chomsky thinks about Ron Paul, check out this vid.
Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul, Kutztown University Nov. 21, 2011 - HQ
Noam Chomsky Comments on his views on Ron Paul. Courtesy of Kutztown University, full video can be found HERE: Please check it out! NEW HD by Hedstrom1973 | 1 week ago | 18,144 views
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@Believerification
You said earlier today: "I guess one must have faith in Paul's general viewpoint..."
Faith is not a good enough reason to do anything...and I don't think his general viewpoint is a very good one.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
Ron Paul is a candidate who doesn't believe in what you believe in, even if he does oppose the war. The unstated assumption here is that the only antiwar candidate happens to be Ron Paul, but a vote for him is a vote for anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, "passively racist and homophobic" with no health, no education, and more private control over corporation.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@ResolutionismTube So... Who do YOU support? And the case you are making against Paul's policies is weak because all you say is that they will be disastrous without offering a reason why? Plus, you misrepresent Paul, e.g., a vote for Paul is a vote for anti-immigration---that is a mistake I wish you'd correct along with "no health, no education," etc., You make your case by misrepresenting his views.
Believerification 1 month ago
@Believerification
I offered several reasons why I think Ron Paul's policies would lead to a disaster, and I can give you more if your interested, there's no shortage of supply. Don't take my word for it, look it up. I can give you my sources if you like, but you don't have to look very hard to see it, you simply choose not to see it. It's all very clear.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@ResolutionismTube You did not answer my question: who do you support? And I'll say it again---Ron Paul's views are not anti-immigration. Do you agree or disagree? Have you misrepresented his views or not?
Believerification 1 month ago
@Believerification
I don't support any of them. Not a single one. I don't care WHO becomes President, all I care about is that person's policies. None of the Republican candidates have policies that I support. Some of the policies Ron Paul talks about are ok, but some are out of this world, and will continue to drive America into a ditch.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@Believerification
As for your comments that I made a mistake, take a look at his own campaign strategy. He has a commercial running on anti-immigration where his policy states: "Physically secure the border"..."No Amnesty"..."No Welfare to Illegal Immigrants"..."End Birthright Citizenship"...and of course my favorite..."No More Student VISA's from Terrorist Nations."
Did I misrepresent those views?
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@ResolutionismTube Yes, you did misrepresent his views: Paul is not anti-immigration; he is anti-ILLEGAL immigration. Hopefully, you are aware of the difference. How can Paul's policies CONTINUE to drive America into a ditch when they haven't been tried? It's the policies you advocate:government involvement in health care and education that have driven America into a ditch. You want to carry on the same failed policies and call "out of this world" Paul's untried solutions.
Believerification 1 month ago
His supporters on the right, are conservatives that are sick of the spending, and his supporters on the left are anti-war. Democrats are losing faith in Obama, because he was hyped too much in the beginning, and they are beginning to see some bright ideas from the Right. But they aren't really paying attention to the rest of his policies.
The formula of supporting a candidate with antiwar views, no matter where they stand on other issues, could be disastrous.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
So, yes it's nice to see some people are waking up and deciding to vote against war. This is good. But this is also being used as a device to bring leftists into the right.
Paul gained left endorsements because he has taken a stand against the "war on terror" that few Democrats dare to. He supports repeal of the USA PATRIOT Act and opposes an attack on Iran. This is all smart, logical, and morally right.
But that's not all Ron Paul stands for--far from it.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
Besides, some of his ideas will never be permitted by the business world. They would never allow it to happen because it would destroy the economy, in whatever state it is now, it would be much worse. Business can't stay alive without the powerful help they receive from government, and they know it. Corporate managers have driven their companies into bankruptcy over and over again, and without the government to bail them out, they will all fall apart.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
While Ron Paul has a few smart ideas, he also has some pretty scary ideas on how America should be run. He's a nice and likeable guy, and people find it easy to get behind him, but take a look at his policies and look closely at them because it's basically a call for corporate tyranny, capitalist growth concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people, at the expense of working people, the poor, the unhealthy, the uneducated, etc.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@ResolutionismTube the 'uncontrolled growth" of corporations was the direct result of government intervention: protectionist policies that favorted the big corporations stifled a truly free market. Obama's bail-out was THE major example. Instead of allowing the dinosaurs to die out naturally and making way for renewed economic growth, we have indebted the taxpayers to a policy of stagnation.
varanid9 1 month ago
@varanid9
Uncontrolled growth of corporations was the direct result of non-governmental intervention. You must have forgotten that it was 2008 when Bush started the bail-outs--and if there was no bail-outs your country would be a smoking crater in the Earth right now, because once again...(happens all the time) the private tyranny of the corporations mis-managed their businesses into the ground. The government saved your asses.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@varanid9
I will agree that the tax-payers are indebted, but that is because you elected Bush who sent your country to a Trillion dollar war... it isn't because of government intervention in the economy--that's just stupid.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
...Paul believes that environmental legislation, such as emissions standards, should be handled between the states or regions concerned, saying..."The people of Texas do not need federal regulators determining our air standards." In October 2007, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization."
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@ResolutionismTube "climate change" has yet to be proven. UN propoganda aside, the OBJECTIVE facts don't support it. And even if it did, the UN's plans are simply a back-door scheme to make certain nations pay for 3rd world countries' industrialization, while, once again, the big corporations make money by ecological services mandated by international law.
varanid9 1 month ago
@varanid9
WAKE UP!! You are living in a dream world; a fucking never-never-land. It must be nice in your coma.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
...in fact, most of his views on "civil liberties" are from la-la-land. In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed "any claim involving the laws, regulations, or policies of any State or unit of local government relating to the free exercise or establishment of religion. If made law, it would permit state, county, and local governments to decide whether to allow displays of religious text and imagery. So, Texas would teach science according to the gospels.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
...at the GOP debate, saying he would like to see the FAA abolished and the job of air traffic control handed over to the airlines. That is one idea that simply just won’t work. Look people, you’re lucky if the airlines get your bag to your destination. Can you imagine what would happen if the airlines were suddenly in charge of the traffic control? It would be absolute madness!...
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@ResolutionismTube I've worked for the government in different capacities for 12 years, and have worked different jobs both for the gov't and have done the exact same work for the private sector and I can see clearly that you haven't any idea what you are talking about. Everything the government touches turns to wasteful shit, literally EVERYTHING. Privatizing the air traffic controllers would guarantee a great increase in efficiency overnight.
varanid9 1 month ago
@varanid9
Would it be better if the police were private and you could only get police protection if you paid the cops out of your own pocket? Would it be better if the fire-fighters were privately owned, and the only way to get a fire put out is if you pay them? If you don't pay them, they don't put the fire out.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@varanid9 p.s. you think the US is a "free market," you think all "socialist" countries collapse (socialist Norway has the highest GDP in the world...), and you think that climate change is "UN propaganda." you've been watching/listening to too much right-wing radio...
DeweyZinnChomskyFisk 1 month ago
...Paul's policies would destroy America in his first term, and it would take the country back to the Peonage days before FDR. Firstly, his commitment to reduce and eliminate federal involvement in: health, education...anything, and he believes in "small government"-by which he means eliminating the federal government's already shredded social safety net. Good luck in a country with no education and no healthcare. You already have the worst health system of all g-20 nations. You want worse?..
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago
@ResolutionismTube Is that why people from "socialist" healthcare countries like Canada and England fly to the states for medical services?
varanid9 1 month ago
@varanid9
You mean rich people. Rich people from socialist healthcare countries can afford to choose to have medical procedures in their own countries for free or in America for a high price. Poor people don't have that choice, they stay in Canada and England and receive medical care for free.
What about your country, where rich people can receive medical care, but the poor can't. At least the poor in Canada can get healthcare. What do you say to the poor in your country? Answer: Fuck you.
ResolutionismTube 1 month ago