@cpaquin11 When I said he didn't have a 50 goal season before lemieux, i meant because he didn't play on Mario's line prior to the 1995-1996 NHL season. Look at his early career, not bad, but definitely not great. After playing on Lemieux's line, he had a break out career.
@cpaquin11 When I said he didn't have a 50 goal season before lemieux, i meant because he didn't play on Mario's line prior to the 1995-1996 NHL season. Look at his early career, not bad, but definitely not grerat. After playing on Lemieux's line, he had a break out career.
@BabbarKhalsaZindabad Plus, Mario retired the first time with a points per game of over 2, think about if he had been able to continue and be fully healthy during the majority of years he played. He could have surpased Gretzky. Trouble is we will never know.
Lemuix = big, tall, strong, hard wrist shot, accurate wrist shot, amazing balance, amazing deking, amazing passer, amazing goal scorer, just amazing, in my opinion, look at lemiues games played, lol, and hes still on the top list, lemixu is the best nhl player to ever play, and gretsky is 2nd, and oveckun is 3rd, ovechkin has lots of time to even win cups and prove him self more, if ur a true hockey fan ud agree with me
@akbar232323 somebody hire this guy as a gm apparently he should think for all of us... if you were a true hockey fan youre name wouldnt be akbar ... just sayin'
@kellyspub23 That is very ignorant and short sighted of you to assume that because someones spelling is off they are not a fan of the game. Has it ever occurred to you that many of the GREAT hockey players were illiterate??? Especially in the old days when education was far less prevalent. Grow up man. You are dumb (For this comment), I could have spelled it out anyway I wanted and THAT would be TRUE !
i actually loved the pens til crybaby came along..i just couldnt be proud of a team that played into his crybaby ways..now they are just a bunch of whinning assholes..except for andre..he's the only one i can respect..cindy on the other hand is a big baby girl..mario should kick the crap out of him
@ejl74 lol you are retarded. because who left the game with 7 mintues left in the olympics when they were losing against Canada? I recall his name being Alexander Ovechkin. Who always blames his missed shots on his equipment or little injeries? Ovechkin. Crosby is a marked man on the ice. he shrugs of the hugest hits. juts look whats hes accomplished in the past 3 years alone more than Ovie will get in his life. Crosby is the all time team player.
It's intersting that some people watch a hockey vid on youtube and have silly arguments that don't end. Even more intersting is the people who watch the same vid...and get homoerotic thoughts.
i'd usually take a Canadian over a Russian anyday, but Ovie plays on the edge, kind of like Bure did, Ovie a little more on edge, but after a while, Bure just went out and took matters into his own hands, and did something about it. Ovie the same way.
@Reinpret I hope you are not a steven reinprecht fan for 1.
for 2 why would you normally prefer a canadian? Why wouldnt you want the best? I dont understand why country matters....
I am american and my favorite hockey players are all but american. Sure Modano is the all time american scoring leader, but Super Mario is my all time favorite C. Derian Hatcher is the only USA Dman to be captain of a cup team. Coffey still my favorite, with Lidstrom right there. Also Bure never checked people.
wow you sure assume alot from just one youtube post. I admire players from around the globe, that in itself doesn't take away anything from my previous reply. Also although Bure didn't check often(didn't say he did anyway), he did take matters into his own hands. Check out Bure Elbow. and a few others you can look up on your own. I'd tone down on your presuppositions before replying jimaymay.
Mario was so good with his passing skills, he could take an average person and make them a great goal scorer. Look at all the people he set up in his career and made them 40 even 50 goal scorers during any season. Truly the best hands i've ever seen in the history of the NHL.
please explain to me how Wendell Young comes to mind? He was a goalie for the pens. We're talking about Lemieux and how good he was with his passing ability to set up people and make them superstars.
redirish, ok, so who was Mario's winger, a journeyman, who scored 40 goals simply because Mario was feeding him the puck? This goes back to when Mario probably had a year or two under his belt in the NHL.
He had several wingers. Doug Brown, Randy Quinn, Kevin Stevens, Mark Recchi, etc. How many of those types of guys did he turn into superstars. And how many were superstars before they played with him and after him?
rob brown 1988-1989 48 goals, kevin stevens 4 straight seasons of 40 + goals, 2 seasons over 50 goals, jarmoir jagr, 1995-1996 60 + goals, 2000-2001 50 + goals, alexi kovalev 2000-2001 just shy of 50 goals do you want more? he could turn an avergae hockey player into a superstar because of his passing skills. Also, look how good these players were without him around them.
I agree with you on brown, stevens, maybe jagr... but definetly not kovalev. KLS line - kovalev lang straka, lemieux and kovalev played rarely together.
@Dezotell Jagr was better than average, but he was no 50 goal scorer or 100 point scorer until he was put on lemieux's line. That was my point. Lemieux could set up anybody and make their game so much better it isn't funny.
@Stompulator44 The above thread was about how Lemieux made anybody look better, and Jagr was no exception. How many times did Jagr have a 50 goal season before Lemieux? None. How many after he left Pittsburgh? 1. 2 times in pittsburgh were 50 goal seasons. Both with Lemieux. Now, who is the retard?
@cornboy111 Kovalev had his best years playing together with Lang and Straka. But Lemieux DOES make his linemates look better. Rob Brown is a good example.
he retired in 97' and unretired in 2000 mainly because the Pens were a great team (they still had jagr, straka and kovalev in their prime) he kept playing until his back simply gave out on him.
@tags714 Lemieux was greatest player ever to play. He was phyiscally tough and much stronger than pretty boy Wayne. His 1700 points would be way above Gretzky's 2000 or so if he played more than less than half the amount of games that Gretzky played. (Not to mention the all-star talent that surruonded Gretzky in the 80's)
@mase5701 Gretz still had a better PPG. Having said that, overall Lemieux may have been a better player. Gretz finished with 800 more points than you're suggesting here btw... But I love both of them, how can you not respect what both of them brought to the game
It's a shame we didn't get to see this pair together more than we did....but I think with the crew we have, it's OK to have the next generation of champions.
hey i remember when the penguins sucked..they had like 5000 fans a night in the igloo, at best...flyers sell out every night...this battle of PA continues...congrats on the cup..n the super bowl..atleast we got the world series..the keystone state is kicking ass!
While I will not deny that a lot of Pens fans jumped off the wagon and jumped back on again (nothing I'm proud to admit), there were a lot more than 5k a night. The worst year we averaged 12k/game. Still nothing special, but people were still coming and rooting them on.
You are absolutely correct in your second statement though, we should be called State of Champions now! Best of luck to the Phillies too, cause we know damn well the Pirates won't get it done lol.
k for one i think five or six players today are better than gretzkey crosby may not be the best over all but you cant find a player that can pass or move the puck through the neutral and offensive zone every player has their stregths thats crosby's he good at every part of the game though very hard to predict
look at the goaltender come on the goaltender were so bad at the time if you hit the net you scored come on.Now with the goaltending greatzky would never hit 200 points.You dont think ovechkin is a better scorer than bossy come on goaltending make all the difference in the world
If you watch the old games youll see what i mean.The goaler equipment is not the same at all.They look 2 times bigger now.Put mike vernon in the net with his old gear youll see what i mean.But im not saying anything about Cosby being better than Wayne cause hes not i mean not now but they are both great players with different skills in a different time thats all.For me Lemieux is the all time best but thats just my opinion it dosent mean its a fact.
who cares, he is not Wayne nor will he ever be Wayne. He will be great, already is great. Youngest Captain to win the Stanley Cup and bring them to the Finals 2 years in a row. That is pretty rad in my books, no disrespect to Wayne and I am not denying Wayne was great but Crosby has a whole different kind of awesomeness!
When all is said and done, Both players are really good and both deserve all that they have and will get in the future!
lol, back in the gretzky days interference, cross-checking and especially hooking was everywhere. if you think the physical aspect of the game in 2009 makes it harder to score goals you're completely deluded.
answer your own question by looking up the difference in goal per game average between gretzky's era and ovechkin's.
its only 8% if i remember right. conclusion: gretzky would've had almost as much points, because of an EASIER physical game.
well i mean the fact that goalies shit themselves everytime there was a breakaway back in gretzkys day probably inflated his career numbers. Goaltending is MUCH better now.
It'd be interesting is to see if there's any significant trend in average goaltending gvt over time. If you were to plot average goalie gvt as a function of time, you'd be able to see if there was any correlation between the ppg spike in the 80's and bettering goaltending. It'd be hard to isolate that from other factors,though, like the inception of trap defense.
There's not really a good database for USEFUL hockey statistics like even stregth points per 60 min instead of per year or game.
Not necessarily. Goalies had smaller pads, but they were a lot more athletic. An old-time goalie would probably do well in today's game.
Another factor is the sticks that the players use today. In the old days, they were made of wood; now, they're composite and will pretty much flex to sling the shot for you.
@ak47mustang gotta love how people blame it on the goalies, Hmmmm well I can simply say, thiers 2 line passing now, crosby and oveckun have big time advantages then other players did!
I know I'll get ripped just because of my name because these bandwagon racist podunks have nothing better to do than worship a whiny, gay cocksucking diver like Cindy, whose protected by the NHL and won't REALLY throw down with Richards! He talks shit, but take the refs away and see the little pussy squirm! Richards would DESTROY this faggot!
I think it's funny how Mario is the manager and like the few games that he played for the penguins that season, they started winning. lol. this guy is a legend.
SIDNEY CROSBY=MARIO LEMIEUX!!
pelikaanimies1 1 month ago
@pelikaanimies1 hahahaha ei vittu repesin ei cindystä ikinä oo tulos niin hyvää
FLYJuniper 2 weeks ago
I dislike Crosby but that's a pretty sick combo
thumm99 1 month ago
passing the torch
805529155077 1 month ago
Crosby acts like it was nothing. Pros are just like that.
KreutzVids 2 months ago
i wish crosby was as tall as lemieux then he wouldnt have to worry about head shots
CrosbyIsKing 3 months ago 5
Lemieux to Crosby, best thing I have ever heard.
GoPensGo377 3 months ago
Lemieux to Crosby, he scores!
Can't get enough of that.
Leafs fan here.
TheSynthice 3 months ago
Video still gives me chills
Iamyourboo2 3 months ago
kovalev is just like alexi yashin pure skill but no heart and emotion
abelucious 4 months ago
@cpaquin11 When I said he didn't have a 50 goal season before lemieux, i meant because he didn't play on Mario's line prior to the 1995-1996 NHL season. Look at his early career, not bad, but definitely not great. After playing on Lemieux's line, he had a break out career.
redirish311976 4 months ago
@cpaquin11 When I said he didn't have a 50 goal season before lemieux, i meant because he didn't play on Mario's line prior to the 1995-1996 NHL season. Look at his early career, not bad, but definitely not grerat. After playing on Lemieux's line, he had a break out career.
redirish311976 4 months ago
If only these two played at the same time, for a consistent amount of time... look out
ResQ198 5 months ago
I hate Crosby more than the English language is capable of describing, and even I see the magic in this video.
cursedlemon 5 months ago
Crosby and Lemieux behind Pietro's net.
Crosby: I scored, Mario, I scored!
Lemieux: Stick with me, kid. We'll go far.
wcaps1996 5 months ago
That's just an unfair combination.
quakersd23 6 months ago
@mightandglory My mom had her snatch removed. Hahaha.
canadaboy999 6 months ago
Or Crosby to Lemieux?
bmlguy 6 months ago
What if it were Malkin to Lemieux to Crosby?
bmlguy 6 months ago
Asham is on the Pens now haha
fert618 6 months ago
Lemieux is a knob-gobbler.
canadaboy999 7 months ago
I wish I had 1/3 of the skill Lemieux has
DJKJSeph 7 months ago
If it wasn't for Lemieux and Crosby, the Penguins wouldn't be in Pittsburgh right now. They both saved the franchise!
MBFLmom 7 months ago
grandpa to grandson!!!
NationalPro 8 months ago
Passing the Torch from a Legend to a Legend in the making
PeKay91 8 months ago 4
There is something oddly special about knowing Lemiuex 7 Crosby played at the same time.
SolidCactus27 9 months ago
HAHAHA NIINIMAA AS USUAL OH WOW
LocoGroove 10 months ago
Look at that pass... jeez.
CWB2208 11 months ago
That's great they got to play together, even if it was only part of a season.
bobbydowns 11 months ago
Calling Kovy, an average player?! wow!
sambulow 11 months ago
lemieux -> gretzky , lemieux -> crosby. yes.
kthorstrejka 11 months ago
this gives me the chills every time i watch it
crosbysakic8719 1 year ago 2
4 golden hands in action
isocrate27 1 year ago 4
this is the changing of generations/guards
NextHW5 1 year ago
and now Asham is Crosby's teammate ... and Lemieux is their BOSS !! lmao
freezer2611 1 year ago
Just your title "Lemieux to Crosby" is awesome. Almost like saying Lemieux to Lemieux Jr.
001MeTaBoLiC100 1 year ago 2
Jeez looking back at this you realize how cool that year was for hockey history
blatreille86 1 year ago
who else agrees lemieux and crosby would make the most dangerous duo ever?
android17ak47 1 year ago 2
This is like the passing of the torch.
taranchula97 1 year ago
hahaha asham!
akbarjohnson 1 year ago
Gretzkys better then Lemieux. There's a reason why Gretzkys called the Great One.
BabbarKhalsaZindabad 1 year ago
@BabbarKhalsaZindabad
Lemieux had a ton of health issues. If he hadn't, even greats like Bobby Orr say Mario would've been the greatest of all time if he was healthy.
lawrence142002 1 year ago
@lawrence142002
thats hard to say, well never know now.
BabbarKhalsaZindabad 1 year ago
@lawrence142002 Orr should talk. IMO, he is the greatest player ever. Orr followed by Lemieux, Gretzky, and Francis. Howe just played OD long.
NessMencesal 1 year ago
@BabbarKhalsaZindabad Mario is called the Magnificent One. I don't which is better, to be great or magnificent.
birdman3120 1 year ago
@BabbarKhalsaZindabad Plus, Mario retired the first time with a points per game of over 2, think about if he had been able to continue and be fully healthy during the majority of years he played. He could have surpased Gretzky. Trouble is we will never know.
birdman3120 1 year ago
WHAT A FUCKING PASS!
max432156 1 year ago
That was very interesting. I never knew that Lemieux and Crosby were together once.
ROBLOXovicarlson 1 year ago
Passin' tha torchpuck :D
PenFan444 1 year ago
Lemieux was the most skilled player of all time, Bar none.
thomasmoonman 1 year ago 3
awesome pass
G0odf3lla 1 year ago
ashaaammm!
devonbistarkey 1 year ago
They made that look so easy haha.
WhiteKnight74648 1 year ago
pwt
justsomedude777 1 year ago
Lemuix = big, tall, strong, hard wrist shot, accurate wrist shot, amazing balance, amazing deking, amazing passer, amazing goal scorer, just amazing, in my opinion, look at lemiues games played, lol, and hes still on the top list, lemixu is the best nhl player to ever play, and gretsky is 2nd, and oveckun is 3rd, ovechkin has lots of time to even win cups and prove him self more, if ur a true hockey fan ud agree with me
akbar232323 1 year ago
@akbar232323 Ovechkin? He hasn't even finished his career. Wait till he does and then say he is the 3rd best player in NHL history.
runescapenerdlol 1 year ago
@akbar232323 no ovechkin is not third his career is not over and to he does not have a cop the third as to be Steve" Yzerman
kravmaga20 1 year ago
@akbar232323 somebody hire this guy as a gm apparently he should think for all of us... if you were a true hockey fan youre name wouldnt be akbar ... just sayin'
kellyspub23 1 year ago
@akbar232323 and you spelled lemieux and gretzky wrong.. if you were a true hockey fan...
kellyspub23 1 year ago
@kellyspub23 That is very ignorant and short sighted of you to assume that because someones spelling is off they are not a fan of the game. Has it ever occurred to you that many of the GREAT hockey players were illiterate??? Especially in the old days when education was far less prevalent. Grow up man. You are dumb (For this comment), I could have spelled it out anyway I wanted and THAT would be TRUE !
thomasmoonman 1 year ago
@kellyspub23 Mind you I agree with the Ovie statements.
thomasmoonman 1 year ago
@akbar232323 at the end of his career ovechkin will be very lucky to be in the top 25, VERY lucky.
pfmo5678ramone 1 year ago 3
i actually loved the pens til crybaby came along..i just couldnt be proud of a team that played into his crybaby ways..now they are just a bunch of whinning assholes..except for andre..he's the only one i can respect..cindy on the other hand is a big baby girl..mario should kick the crap out of him
ejl74 1 year ago
@ejl74 lol you are retarded. because who left the game with 7 mintues left in the olympics when they were losing against Canada? I recall his name being Alexander Ovechkin. Who always blames his missed shots on his equipment or little injeries? Ovechkin. Crosby is a marked man on the ice. he shrugs of the hugest hits. juts look whats hes accomplished in the past 3 years alone more than Ovie will get in his life. Crosby is the all time team player.
mattevanswastaken 1 year ago
@ejl74 loolol show me one video of him crying, seriously !
max432156 1 year ago
During the goal celebration, look at how subordinate Crosby looks when next to Lemieux.
Iamyourboo2 1 year ago
kevenx is a fagat
EAchankre 1 year ago
the contrast is amazing, Crosby, a bitch, diver, whiner, etc. Lemieux, a legend in every sense, played the game the right way.
SuketoKetchi 1 year ago
I'm a big Flyers fan, but I have much love for Mario. Point blank, he did it the way it's supposed to be done.
Skinnyd4 1 year ago
The most amazing thing about this video is seeing Rick Dipietro in the net.
JJJJNobody 1 year ago 138
@JJJJNobody
LOL
Britex123 1 year ago
@JJJJNobody lucky the puck didn't hit him in the cage, he would've been out 4-6 weeks with a fractured jaw
HalfBakedGnome 11 months ago 34
@JJJJNobody hahaha lolllll
TheMAstErPiEce69 10 months ago
@JJJJNobody my god...
xplay101 3 months ago
@nyyNYR2094 that's much better than $1.98 per 1/2 hr, i'd say.
nnyNYR2094 loves hockey players dicks.
p.s enjoy the playoffs...again
ebutuoy0814 1 year ago
@nyyNYR2094 your mom is $1.98 per 1/2 hr
p.s enjoy the playoffs...again
ebutuoy0814 1 year ago
nyyNYR2094 u having another gay fantasy? keep having gay fantasies about hockey players (like your original comment) and not me.
p.s. enjoy the playoffs...again
p.p.s. AVERY (and your mom) IS A BYTCH
ebutuoy0814 1 year ago
@nyyNYR2094 What?
ebutuoy0814 1 year ago
It's intersting that some people watch a hockey vid on youtube and have silly arguments that don't end. Even more intersting is the people who watch the same vid...and get homoerotic thoughts.
Enjoy the playoffs...again
ebutuoy0814 1 year ago
only a rangers fan has man on man action constantly on thier minds
ebutuoy0814 1 year ago
hahahahaha that's fuckin hysterical
caw8934 1 year ago
"Daddy's gotcha...daddy's gotcha."
Sko Pens!!!
DJSkyes 1 year ago
Magic moment.
esthetichaos 1 year ago
i'd usually take a Canadian over a Russian anyday, but Ovie plays on the edge, kind of like Bure did, Ovie a little more on edge, but after a while, Bure just went out and took matters into his own hands, and did something about it. Ovie the same way.
Reinpret 2 years ago
@Reinpret I hope you are not a steven reinprecht fan for 1.
for 2 why would you normally prefer a canadian? Why wouldnt you want the best? I dont understand why country matters....
I am american and my favorite hockey players are all but american. Sure Modano is the all time american scoring leader, but Super Mario is my all time favorite C. Derian Hatcher is the only USA Dman to be captain of a cup team. Coffey still my favorite, with Lidstrom right there. Also Bure never checked people.
jimaymay 2 years ago
wow you sure assume alot from just one youtube post. I admire players from around the globe, that in itself doesn't take away anything from my previous reply. Also although Bure didn't check often(didn't say he did anyway), he did take matters into his own hands. Check out Bure Elbow. and a few others you can look up on your own. I'd tone down on your presuppositions before replying jimaymay.
Reinpret 2 years ago
wow the penguins with a 5 on 3, what a surprise
spindaddy03 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Gretzky Ovechkin Lemieux
best offensive line ever
eowenful 2 years ago
they made it look so easy. mario wouldnt play with ovechkin. best line, Lemieux and Recchi flanking Crosby.
boyrandom72 2 years ago
Tobad they didnt play in the same generation :(
DUDE245269 2 years ago
i'd take bossy over ovechkin.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago 4
if you replace ovechkin with someone
sidthekidisnumber1 2 years ago
Mario was so good with his passing skills, he could take an average person and make them a great goal scorer. Look at all the people he set up in his career and made them 40 even 50 goal scorers during any season. Truly the best hands i've ever seen in the history of the NHL.
redirish311976 2 years ago 2
Gretzky made Bernie Nicholls score 70 goals and 150 pts in 88-89.....yes you heard me right, BERNIE NICHOLLS.
But I agree, Mario had the best hands.
Hockeyevan9992 2 years ago 4
Gretzky is the only reason Jari Kurri is in the Hall of Fame...
Samushi7 2 years ago 4
Yeah that's also true.
Hockeyevan9992 2 years ago
redirish, Wendell Young comes to mind!
Habsfan0206 2 years ago
please explain to me how Wendell Young comes to mind? He was a goalie for the pens. We're talking about Lemieux and how good he was with his passing ability to set up people and make them superstars.
redirish311976 2 years ago
redirish, ok, so who was Mario's winger, a journeyman, who scored 40 goals simply because Mario was feeding him the puck? This goes back to when Mario probably had a year or two under his belt in the NHL.
Habsfan0206 2 years ago
He had several wingers. Doug Brown, Randy Quinn, Kevin Stevens, Mark Recchi, etc. How many of those types of guys did he turn into superstars. And how many were superstars before they played with him and after him?
jensjam 2 years ago
Jensjam, you're right! Brown...#44.
Habsfan0206 2 years ago
Do you actually have names to back up your claims or are you talking out the wrong orifice?
dsjunior1388 2 years ago
rob brown 1988-1989 48 goals, kevin stevens 4 straight seasons of 40 + goals, 2 seasons over 50 goals, jarmoir jagr, 1995-1996 60 + goals, 2000-2001 50 + goals, alexi kovalev 2000-2001 just shy of 50 goals do you want more? he could turn an avergae hockey player into a superstar because of his passing skills. Also, look how good these players were without him around them.
redirish311976 2 years ago 16
I agree with you on brown, stevens, maybe jagr... but definetly not kovalev. KLS line - kovalev lang straka, lemieux and kovalev played rarely together.
loxbuster 2 years ago
@redirish311976 good lord Jagr was far from average
Dezotell 10 months ago
@Dezotell Jagr was better than average, but he was no 50 goal scorer or 100 point scorer until he was put on lemieux's line. That was my point. Lemieux could set up anybody and make their game so much better it isn't funny.
redirish311976 10 months ago
@redirish311976 yeah except for the 54 goal 123 point season he had on the rangers
cornboy111 7 months ago
@redirish311976 Yeah that's why Jagr has 3 Art Ross trophies in the years Lemieux DIDN'T play.
Wow you Pentards are so stupid it's almost funny. (almost)
Stompulator44 5 months ago
@Stompulator44 The above thread was about how Lemieux made anybody look better, and Jagr was no exception. How many times did Jagr have a 50 goal season before Lemieux? None. How many after he left Pittsburgh? 1. 2 times in pittsburgh were 50 goal seasons. Both with Lemieux. Now, who is the retard?
redirish311976 5 months ago
@redirish311976 Lemieux DOES make everyone look better
EX:
Kovalev.
game.set.match.
cornboy111 5 months ago
@cornboy111 Exactly that is what I've been saying all along.
redirish311976 5 months ago
@cornboy111 Kovalev had his best years playing together with Lang and Straka. But Lemieux DOES make his linemates look better. Rob Brown is a good example.
11DNA11 4 months ago
@redirish311976 But Jagr ain't your average player.
Demandred02 7 months ago
i dont like crosby either but any player that limieux likes that much has gotta be great.
ledzepkid12 2 years ago 3
Lemieux is a real legend! i don't like crosby
zaaaaak17 2 years ago
Jesus... It's like Michael Jordan to Lebron James. Lets go Pens!!
tbe987 2 years ago 46
no gretzky is michael jordan
NBertuzzi 2 years ago
@tbe987 haha thats funny shit
Stmarie192 1 year ago
@tbe987 why does there need to be a basketball reference.
i think its like lemieux to crosby, nothing else..
hockey>basketball
hockeyfightusa 1 year ago 2
@hockeyfightusa Plus Michael Jordan and LeBron James never teamed up together in the league.
KillaC972 1 year ago
@tbe987 i dont see gretzky anywhere in this video
rimsdothemacarena 1 year ago
@tbe987 Comparing Crosby to James is an insult to Crosby. Lebron is just some dumb nigger. Are you people kidding me?
tylerdurdonxx 1 year ago
@tylerdurdonxx your an idiot, james is great, stupid racist
mattjosh444 1 year ago
@tbe987 michael jordan to kobe buddy....
Jrizz88 1 year ago
@tbe987
no, its like jesus to sidney crosby
LaxpulseLIVE 1 year ago 15
@LaxpulseLIVE your taking it a little too far calling a hockey player jeses
CrosbyIsKing 3 months ago
@CrosbyIsKing No, dumb shit, he called him jesus not jeses.
avalanchesuperstar 2 months ago
@avalanchesuperstar awww,you cant understand what i mean? aww, mentally challenged child. are you in special ed you stupid bitch?
CrosbyIsKing 2 months ago
@CrosbyIsKing Actually no, i'm not in special ed. If I was,I wouldn't know how to work on a computer.
avalanchesuperstar 2 months ago
@LaxpulseLIVE no, its like God to Jesus
steelersfan4897 1 month ago
@steelersfan4897 :)
1timthekid 1 month ago
cant stop this
kill0the0mall 2 years ago 2
love it, i didnt know that Lemieux didn't retire until 2005
edd146 2 years ago 2
retired in 1997 and came back in 2000
math2989 2 years ago 2
he retired a bunch of times and came back.
hotwireauterus 2 years ago
he retired in 97' and unretired in 2000 mainly because the Pens were a great team (they still had jagr, straka and kovalev in their prime) he kept playing until his back simply gave out on him.
jonnyber1688 2 years ago 2
lemieux would dominate the game in any decade... no doubt about it
tags714 2 years ago 32
@tags714 Lemieux was greatest player ever to play. He was phyiscally tough and much stronger than pretty boy Wayne. His 1700 points would be way above Gretzky's 2000 or so if he played more than less than half the amount of games that Gretzky played. (Not to mention the all-star talent that surruonded Gretzky in the 80's)
mase5701 1 year ago
@mase5701 Gretz still had a better PPG. Having said that, overall Lemieux may have been a better player. Gretz finished with 800 more points than you're suggesting here btw... But I love both of them, how can you not respect what both of them brought to the game
shortys914 1 year ago
@shortys914 Gretzky only had a better PPG after Lemieux came back. Lemieux mantained a higher PPG up to his first "retirement" or break from hockey.
angeldarklcd 1 year ago
@angeldarklcd i'm just talking career averages... blew it away
shortys914 1 year ago
Lemieux is still better than Dupuis. We need him as an owner and player :P
lawrencetimmons94 2 years ago
It's a shame we didn't get to see this pair together more than we did....but I think with the crew we have, it's OK to have the next generation of champions.
redoctober90 2 years ago
hey i remember when the penguins sucked..they had like 5000 fans a night in the igloo, at best...flyers sell out every night...this battle of PA continues...congrats on the cup..n the super bowl..atleast we got the world series..the keystone state is kicking ass!
phi5ny1 2 years ago
While I will not deny that a lot of Pens fans jumped off the wagon and jumped back on again (nothing I'm proud to admit), there were a lot more than 5k a night. The worst year we averaged 12k/game. Still nothing special, but people were still coming and rooting them on.
You are absolutely correct in your second statement though, we should be called State of Champions now! Best of luck to the Phillies too, cause we know damn well the Pirates won't get it done lol.
Sinsemilla4u 2 years ago 3
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ScarlettassasiN14 2 years ago 3
passing the torch, that is cool to see; and think what players were in the league when mario started; lafleur for one.
mwitster 2 years ago
Could anybody beat an all time Penguins team? Dont think so-
JoeB144 2 years ago 10
I don't think anyone can beat them, but the only team that can compete with them would be an all time Canadians team.
pittfan1827 2 years ago
k for one i think five or six players today are better than gretzkey crosby may not be the best over all but you cant find a player that can pass or move the puck through the neutral and offensive zone every player has their stregths thats crosby's he good at every part of the game though very hard to predict
ConSmight 2 years ago
I am sorry, did you say BETTER than Wayne?
I would like to know who are those.
LDis1 2 years ago
if he keeps this up he will be!
assuming we are talking about Crosby here.
willmspoh 2 years ago
Yes, about Crosby...
But here's the thing about Crosby... will he match Wayne's 200 pts seasons of 4 times?
LDis1 2 years ago
look at the goaltender come on the goaltender were so bad at the time if you hit the net you scored come on.Now with the goaltending greatzky would never hit 200 points.You dont think ovechkin is a better scorer than bossy come on goaltending make all the difference in the world
lennybreaugod 2 years ago 2
THey were bad??? THat's kind of a silly, don't you think?
LDis1 2 years ago
If you watch the old games youll see what i mean.The goaler equipment is not the same at all.They look 2 times bigger now.Put mike vernon in the net with his old gear youll see what i mean.But im not saying anything about Cosby being better than Wayne cause hes not i mean not now but they are both great players with different skills in a different time thats all.For me Lemieux is the all time best but thats just my opinion it dosent mean its a fact.
lennybreaugod 2 years ago
who cares, he is not Wayne nor will he ever be Wayne. He will be great, already is great. Youngest Captain to win the Stanley Cup and bring them to the Finals 2 years in a row. That is pretty rad in my books, no disrespect to Wayne and I am not denying Wayne was great but Crosby has a whole different kind of awesomeness!
When all is said and done, Both players are really good and both deserve all that they have and will get in the future!
fair enough?
willmspoh 2 years ago
I agree with this.
LDis1 2 years ago
the games changed too much
mrmooomanjr 2 years ago
Would Wayne have had that many points in this era, where the game is faster, the players hit harder, and the goalies have bigger pads?
YouGotOdenated 2 years ago
Hell no
lindemikko 2 years ago
"the players hit harder"
lol, back in the gretzky days interference, cross-checking and especially hooking was everywhere. if you think the physical aspect of the game in 2009 makes it harder to score goals you're completely deluded.
answer your own question by looking up the difference in goal per game average between gretzky's era and ovechkin's.
its only 8% if i remember right. conclusion: gretzky would've had almost as much points, because of an EASIER physical game.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
well i mean the fact that goalies shit themselves everytime there was a breakaway back in gretzkys day probably inflated his career numbers. Goaltending is MUCH better now.
ak47mustang 2 years ago 4
@ak47mustang
you're just another retard repeating that stuff like a parrot because you read it somewhere.
while what you said is true, its only a small part of the equation. i sure didnt expect a retarded parrot to analyze the whole situation.
stfu, read my post, and go look up some gpg stats instead of being a random moron.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
It'd be interesting is to see if there's any significant trend in average goaltending gvt over time. If you were to plot average goalie gvt as a function of time, you'd be able to see if there was any correlation between the ppg spike in the 80's and bettering goaltending. It'd be hard to isolate that from other factors,though, like the inception of trap defense.
There's not really a good database for USEFUL hockey statistics like even stregth points per 60 min instead of per year or game.
ak47mustang 2 years ago
@ak47mustang
if you could read between the lines you would've realized i know very well that goalies sucked back then (from my 1 month ago post).
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
Not necessarily. Goalies had smaller pads, but they were a lot more athletic. An old-time goalie would probably do well in today's game.
Another factor is the sticks that the players use today. In the old days, they were made of wood; now, they're composite and will pretty much flex to sling the shot for you.
KashiwaDaisuke 2 years ago 2
@ak47mustang gotta love how people blame it on the goalies, Hmmmm well I can simply say, thiers 2 line passing now, crosby and oveckun have big time advantages then other players did!
akbar232323 1 year ago
Mario has played with better...Jagr for one.
Mark1379 2 years ago
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buldogz2 is the biggest fuckin kweer ever crosby or lemieux arent as good as gretzky
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FlyersHockeyPride 2 years ago
Get back to me when Richards leads the Flyers to an Eastern Conference Championship.
chrisuncleahmad 2 years ago
Haha!
RyRobb813 2 years ago
Leadership doesn't score goals. Neither does Mike Richards.
ak47mustang 2 years ago
what a pass!
daburgh1111 2 years ago 2
I wish Lemieux still played...miss seeing him skate.
meishmeal453 2 years ago 6
I hope Mario comes back for the playoffs this year,
Mario>Chuck Norris
ballplayer1799 2 years ago 9
give your head a shake lol...
charmduch111 2 years ago
I think it's funny how Mario is the manager and like the few games that he played for the penguins that season, they started winning. lol. this guy is a legend.
CknSalad 2 years ago