@SuperGeniusLife Wait... no one said that they like drugs, no one said anything perverted, and your grammar is so bad i can't find find anything wrong with the rest of what you said. I'm starting to question who's really on drugs here.
But is victory truly won when you resort to the same base behaviors of your enemy? In becoming that which you seek to conquer, who has truly emerged triumphant?
"To be honest, at one point we had die-hard Christians thinking that our songs were all about serious Jesus stuff, and I said, “We’re Humanist.” I don’t advocate any religion. I have my own spirituality, my own view of the universe and how it works. I respect religion, and I’m probably closer to Buddhism than I am to anything."
To me, VNV Nation is one man expressing himself without compromise. He expresses the ideals that VNV Nation stands for. Victory Not Vengence. Many of his songs show hard to deal with emotions. But he never lets that beat him as a man or a person. He strives and excels. One can listen to the music and tell there is a lot of pain and sorrow, but it's still somehow uplifting. Victory Not Vengence That's what it means to me. I'm not disagreeing with you by any means either. :)
I love this song, it has a deep meaning to me. Some people think it's a anti-religious song but I feel it's more of a self-empowering song. To not look to the outside of yourself for strength and hope but to find it within yourself and not chain yourself with hollow bonds to something that weakens you inside and out.
@VampRune Hmm. I agree that's definitely a song about looking inward towards ones self for strength and reason than than outward to some fantasy... i'd also agree not necessarily an anti-religious song, but maybe a song against against organized religion and all the crap it brings with it? That's what i love about VNV. you can always find a way to make their lyrics meaningful to you.
Many people make their own version of a "God" to fill up something in their lives, but it's still empty and ends up hurting them, and hurting anyone else that tries to make them see the truth.
I don't follow. Well, sort of. I was about to say something, but the truth is, people really have been treating him like the freaking second coming. But I don't associate with anyone that went that gaga over him. I feel he was the better choice over Skeletor and Minnie Moose, and it pissed off the fundamentalists that he got elected, so that's always nice.
well it's always a false choice, but that's besides the point.
it's precisely that people have been doing that (and always will) which makes it so bad. it's one thing when you put all your faith in your car to get you somewhere important. the difference is that your car has no ego. it can't develop a complex.
god himself is that thing that fills up believers' lives. we don't try to find him in obama or in a car. he's just everywhere, period.
@chaosarrows66 He may well be. I don't remember saying anything against the faith in and of itself, only those who use their faith to suppress and harm others. Believing something like "because I'm a Christian, I need to be like Christ and help others and be charitable and foster peace" has nothing wrong with it and is admirable. "Because I'm a Christian, I need to force other people to believe the same as me and harm people because I don't like them" is something very different.
@MoonBabyhowl A-fucking-men. I've known Christians of both varieties. The former are awesome to be around, the latter need a piece of hot lead injected in the skull.
This song is like an energy drink for my soul, simply amazing
T3kU 3 weeks ago
why the fuck is hatsune miku shit on related videos
ArtanisOwns 2 months ago
WOW!!! I love that drug like rush I get when I come across a new song I like
22JaneDoe 4 months ago 3
@22JaneDoe you all like drugs because you are pervert peoples,You are able to do desires more to damage it so all religions.
SuperGeniusLife 3 weeks ago
@SuperGeniusLife Wait... no one said that they like drugs, no one said anything perverted, and your grammar is so bad i can't find find anything wrong with the rest of what you said. I'm starting to question who's really on drugs here.
ValekHalfHeart 2 weeks ago
@ValekHalfHeart Are you him lawyer?
SuperGeniusLife 2 weeks ago
@SuperGeniusLife No.
ValekHalfHeart 1 week ago
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Joshee1347 1 day ago in playlist VNV Nation
@SuperGeniusLife way to not make any sense
Joshee1347 1 day ago
this would go down well in a club,theyd really be going on dancefoor at least i would,
citroeno 6 months ago
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4 people tied hallowed bonds around their hands and knelt before the seat of shame.
ragingmonkey64 6 months ago
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ragingmonkey64 6 months ago
love!
mushikaya 7 months ago
tun tun tun tun tun pum pum pum pum tich tich tich tan tan tan tan
mineralsandcrafts 7 months ago
This is such a powerful message that it moved me, and I'm not even a religious person. VNV Nation forever
Sot4muumi 8 months ago
the drop at 3:00 is my god.
ArtanisOwns 8 months ago
Most definitely the best song I discovered this year
ponbop 8 months ago
The beautiful thing about humanist music is that people from all faiths can appreciate the message. There is no need to spread hate.
Victory, Not Vengeance.
RenovatedLocksmith 9 months ago 7
@RenovatedLocksmith what if u use vengeance to ensure victory? didnt think about that did ya?
Qweeftastic 7 months ago
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@Qweeftastic Then you have not truly won.
syrassyra 6 months ago
@Qweeftastic
But is victory truly won when you resort to the same base behaviors of your enemy? In becoming that which you seek to conquer, who has truly emerged triumphant?
IrishHaloNerd 3 months ago
I love the beat and I LOVE the lyrics... stop looking for a god to answer to and take some responsibility!
RaPositivist 9 months ago
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on of his best.........
trauma80 10 months ago
incredible !!!
bolmsp 11 months ago
This song is awesome. Never it with vocals. Fuck religion and fuck god.
athabascka 1 year ago
@chaosarrow66
"To be honest, at one point we had die-hard Christians thinking that our songs were all about serious Jesus stuff, and I said, “We’re Humanist.” I don’t advocate any religion. I have my own spirituality, my own view of the universe and how it works. I respect religion, and I’m probably closer to Buddhism than I am to anything."
from interview with Ronan on jivemagazine
oud3is1 1 year ago
ebm.gr/music/interviews/2824-interview-with-ronan-harris-frontman-of-vnv-nation-part-2 <-----Ronan talks about song
oud3is1 1 year ago
good stuff, havent heard this in a long time.. man this kicks ass! awesome!
NukeCorruption 1 year ago
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ragingmonkey64 1 year ago
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This sounds like music which would be played in a 1980's titty bar.
4Eyesism 1 year ago
totally amazing 10/10
darkchaser25 1 year ago
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darkchaser25 1 year ago
ich habe heute ?
1aDemokrat 1 year ago
epic tune!!
this always gets me pumped for a night out!!!
james808state 2 years ago 3
To me, vnv nation is a symbol. I love there music, and alot of it perfectly describes our society. Long live vnv nation.
Mycopia 2 years ago 5
To me, VNV Nation is one man expressing himself without compromise. He expresses the ideals that VNV Nation stands for. Victory Not Vengence. Many of his songs show hard to deal with emotions. But he never lets that beat him as a man or a person. He strives and excels. One can listen to the music and tell there is a lot of pain and sorrow, but it's still somehow uplifting. Victory Not Vengence That's what it means to me. I'm not disagreeing with you by any means either. :)
rikaaim 1 year ago 13
I understand, and i agree. ^_^
Mycopia 1 year ago
If you were talking about any other band I would think they were paying you to say all that.
ragingmonkey64 1 year ago
vnvnation is einfach geil :)
TheSchaukel 2 years ago
Love this track!
Traxxendental 2 years ago
VnV Nation is more then renowned for their great electronic music and use of electronic sounding voices for the better parts of their songs
Dallows65 2 years ago
I think I've just fallen in love with this song
spikeim 2 years ago
I can honestly say this is one of the coolest things i've ever heard. Especially when his voice turns into a robot, I mean damn!!!
ragingmonkey64 2 years ago 6
I love this song, it has a deep meaning to me. Some people think it's a anti-religious song but I feel it's more of a self-empowering song. To not look to the outside of yourself for strength and hope but to find it within yourself and not chain yourself with hollow bonds to something that weakens you inside and out.
VampRune 2 years ago 18
amen
MsToetjes 2 years ago
thanks :-)
VampRune 2 years ago
@VampRune Hmm. I agree that's definitely a song about looking inward towards ones self for strength and reason than than outward to some fantasy... i'd also agree not necessarily an anti-religious song, but maybe a song against against organized religion and all the crap it brings with it? That's what i love about VNV. you can always find a way to make their lyrics meaningful to you.
ValekHalfHeart 1 month ago
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The techno beats are good
BSP666c 2 years ago
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why does this song have 4 and 1/2stars it should have 5 stars no mattter what
talentagent654 2 years ago 33
You seek a God to stand above you,wrapping healing arms around you. You'll find another God of pain, a God of suffering and tears...
letreners 2 years ago 10
Add "&fmt=18" at the end of the video URL to make this even more awesome!
ShinyMarshtomp 3 years ago 5
seriously without it, a ton of these songs sound like shit
boxobox 2 years ago
well first i loved the original version of this... found the one with vocals... and loved it even more!
michaeljetfire 3 years ago 5
yummy
SilverishKitten 3 years ago 7
I love these lyrics. Very true in certain cases.
Many people make their own version of a "God" to fill up something in their lives, but it's still empty and ends up hurting them, and hurting anyone else that tries to make them see the truth.
MoonBabyhowl 3 years ago 59
yeah. like voting for barack obama.
jonathans8 3 years ago 2
I don't follow. Well, sort of. I was about to say something, but the truth is, people really have been treating him like the freaking second coming. But I don't associate with anyone that went that gaga over him. I feel he was the better choice over Skeletor and Minnie Moose, and it pissed off the fundamentalists that he got elected, so that's always nice.
MoonBabyhowl 3 years ago 5
well it's always a false choice, but that's besides the point.
it's precisely that people have been doing that (and always will) which makes it so bad. it's one thing when you put all your faith in your car to get you somewhere important. the difference is that your car has no ego. it can't develop a complex.
god himself is that thing that fills up believers' lives. we don't try to find him in obama or in a car. he's just everywhere, period.
jonathans8 2 years ago 4
@MoonBabyhowl
Very true, my marriage was destroyed by a "reborn" Christian who doesn't even see the damage in becoming a fanatic years ago!
Mak08Mak 1 year ago
@MoonBabyhowl That's funny you say that cause vnv nation is Christain idiot.
chaosarrows66 1 year ago
@chaosarrows66 He may well be. I don't remember saying anything against the faith in and of itself, only those who use their faith to suppress and harm others. Believing something like "because I'm a Christian, I need to be like Christ and help others and be charitable and foster peace" has nothing wrong with it and is admirable. "Because I'm a Christian, I need to force other people to believe the same as me and harm people because I don't like them" is something very different.
MoonBabyhowl 1 year ago 2
@MoonBabyhowl Oh, sorry I misread you there.
chaosarrows66 1 year ago
@MoonBabyhowl A-fucking-men. I've known Christians of both varieties. The former are awesome to be around, the latter need a piece of hot lead injected in the skull.
TyrDoshan 1 year ago
@chaosarrows66 NOT TRUE spiritual yes NOT CHRISTIAN!
genocidalguitars666 1 year ago
@chaosarrows66
Ahh but you see, he's not.
Therefore you're the idiot, gj idiot.
mecher3k 6 months ago
great song
i love it :-D
Downtohell666 3 years ago 3
Words can't describe!
AddictedtoThought 3 years ago 10
This is amazing music. It's epic. :]
shostakovich39 3 years ago 12