I used to have the non turbo version of this engine. 8.2L Detroit Diesel 4 Stroke V8 (500 Cubic Inch). It was in a very large Step Van built on a 1986 F700 Chassis. Basically the same frame, engine and trans as many School Buses. Allison auto trans and Rockwell rear end. A big smelly 8 mpg beast.
Like anything from Detroit Diesel this is a very reliable engine. However, the 8.2 can be a nightmare to rebuild. For one thing, it's a parent-bore engine, so there's no sleeve to replace- and the cylinder walls are too thin to bore out for a sleeve. Also the timing set for this engine is no longer being manufactured, so if you can't find someone who has it you'll never be able to properly set the timing.
i wonder if i could make it bolt up to a SM465? any one think so either that or the truck gets a 6.2L idk if i can make a 4-53T work out without makeing an adapter
I had a 6.2 diesel in an 82' Silverado. The truck was a piece of shit - but the engine was the most reliable engine I've ever owned. It had a cast iron Chrysler 4-speed behind it. I think GM used this box because the 4-speed they normally used (Muncie or Saganaw or whatever) wouldn't hold up. However, neither would the Chrysler box. I pulled that cast iron monster once myself (Christ, was that an adventure). But after a few more boxes, sold it. I loved that engine, hated the truck.
@snagaff No, this definetly is 4 stroke. The two stroke Detroits sound totally different, if you ever have heard a two stroke Detroit you would know...
@powell1992 Without turbo I believe it is rated about 160 hp and with turbo and intercooler up to 300 hp. Not sure if Detroit Diesel delivered this engine with intercooler originally, might be 3. party modification.
@SveinHaDD Mkay, I thought that it might because the Detroit Diesel that I've been around really does sound like it has a turbo (you can hear it kick it and wind up) so I figured I'd ask. Thanks.
8.2 litres displacement and Turbo. 8.2 litres is about 500 cid. 53, 71 and 92 series are the older two-stroke diesel engines. The 8.2 is the first four-stroke Detroit Diesel.
I have this motor in a 7000 gmc. Great motor way better mileage than a gas trust me we^ve had both. Injectors are fun but other than that start in the coldest morning with no problems.
i wonder if one of these would fit in my 80 chevy c20 put a clark tranny behind that bad boy i dont think the sm465 would take the torq of a diesel but the gear ratios would be a perfect match
yeah but u would get shitty gas milage with a 455 gasser this has the closest torq rateings gets the same amount of work done at a slower RPM with better fuel economy
465? they make a 465? probbably oldsmobile or pontiac like the 455 id rather take a 6.5 or a 8.2 than a 454 gasser i prefur diesel im going to take the 350N out of my truck and put a 6.2L diesel or 4-53 2stroke diesel just cuz i dont like gas diesel is alwyas better
the came in the big chevy c60s an 7000 this cab and chasis in the chevy buses yes it was used being its a chevy engine witch makes it funny how ford uses it in their buses and trucks being they cant make an engine good enough so they broke down and baught it from GM lmao
Is this a 8.2 or a 6.2? I think they are totally different engines. The 8.2 are a lot bigger. Yeah this looks like a 6.2. I heard the 6.2 diesel suburbans were quite common in scandinavia.
Yeah the magic 500 cubic inch mark! The 70's Cadillac cars had 500 cid gasoline engines.
Have you installed this engine yet? How do you like it? Here in California you can get them for a few hundred dollars because they never quit and people want something new just because they want something new.
Yes, it was installed in my boat and was running well. I sold the boat a few years ago but I assume it will run well for lots of years.
This engine was a replacement for my old marine engine that had a piston failure that split one cylinder liner. If I had a boat that this engine would fit in I would love to have another 8.2. Simple robust engines, cheap spare parts.
I think you are right on the money with the cuc-vee. It looks like this is a 6.2 liter GM diesel. It is a 350 that originaly went in the late 70's model cadilac sevilles. The engine was made by Oldsmobile.
Let me guess, your a janitor? The 6.2 and 6.5 are completely different the then 350 diesel. The 350 was very unreliable, and expanding it to 6.2 or 6.5 liters would have just made it worse, and the 6.2 and 6.5 were known for their reliability. Look at pictures of a 6.2/6.5 vs. a 350. The blocks are completely different.
I wasn't trying to be nasty with you nor a smart ass. I spent 12 years in the army dealing with this garbage and I work at a GM plant where they talk down on this engine all the time. That is what we don't want to go back to. The engine was a 6.5 per the documentation that they showed. And to answer your question No I'm not a janitor I assemble the frames for the silverado. This sorry reputation is the reason we asked our sister company Isuzu to borrow their diesel.
G.M and Isuzu have been partners for years longer than some people realize,, my dad had a old 80 something Chevy Luv with a three cyl.. Isuzu disel.. The only problems I think the 6.2 & 6.5L had was they didn't hold enough oil, (7Qts) is not enough and compression was up there 21:1 +/- a few points depending on N/A or Turbo options and the turbos one were not intercooled,, I wish Chevy would have went with a I-6 Isuzu diesel instead of a V-8..
@amfan12 you tell em so many people get that so wrong the 5.7 diesel was even its own block but they were indeed reliable engines if u know how to treat one
@DRNEGOLICIS - I have heard this about the 5.7 Oldsmobile diesel, that diesel engines have different maintenance needs, and that most people drove and maintained them like gasoline engines...
My mom bought a Bonneville Brougham that had the 5.7 350 diesel... I believe that is the worst engine GM ever made...It was basically a converted gasser...I think she had it for maybe two months before it blew up...She like the car because it was blue and silver and really really pretty...Course my dad hated it because he knew all about that 5.7 diesel...
@Alrgc2Air yup the worst thing to do to a 5.7,6.2,6.5 or 8.2 is start it up then go without letting it get warm they have a bit of miss that destroys the harmonic balancer over time witch then in turn cracks the crank shaft
@amfan12 You mean the Olds 350 diesel? All the problems with those diesels stem from the fact that they were a gas engine, converted to diesel. Great foundation for performance-if you convert them back to gas.
There are a lot of misconceptions about the olds 5.7L diesel, for starts it's a different block than the 5.7 olds gasser, The reason they usually self destructed was usually due to the electronic fuel pump. They didn't filter out moisture and as the condensation accumulated within the fuel reservoir water would eventually make its way to the cylinders and I'm pretty sure you can imagine the rest. 5.7's can be good work horses with a simple 6.2 fuel pump swap.
A more important question might be this. Would your truck fit around that engine? Just kidding ;) If you have the money and time, I'm sure you could shove that thing in a truck. Find a good metal fabricator first, then stock up on transmissions and u-joints.
Ah, the four-stroke 8.2 GM! Thought it sounded a bit off for a Detroit (though the 8.2L was sold under the Detroit name). I remember Kirtland AFB had a 2.5-ton wrecker that used the naturally aspirated (about 180hp) version of this engine. Wasn't too impressed with it, to be honest: Made lots of noise, but couldn't outrun a snail.
Absolutely. Listen to it, then listen to a clip of other Detroits (besides the Series 60). Much different sound. There's visual clues as well. Valve covere, air cleaner, lack of a blower...
As long as you don't end up having to tune the thing. It's almost impossible nowadays to find the tools necessary to adjust the cam-timed injectors in these engines.
Hotrod: I'm looking at it in proportion to a 7.3L Power Stroke engine. The 8.2L is only 56 cubic inches bigger than the 7.3L (444 vs. 500 cubic inches). That's only 7 cubic inches difference per cylinder. Waddya think?
Seagravefan: Yea sure its only 56 cu. in bigger. But you gotta think. Even though its only that much bigger. even though its only 500 Cu in, it could be too tall or too wide to put in a pickup.
Sounds really good....Definitely a 4 stroke...And Snagaff, Type in Detroit 8V71 to hear a two stroke diesel... They sound nice...
scott93257 8 months ago
I love the way it sways and you hold it like that's going to make a difference to that brute. Nice vid.
hunghuge12 11 months ago
i like your shorts
ilovegoatsecks 1 year ago
I used to have the non turbo version of this engine. 8.2L Detroit Diesel 4 Stroke V8 (500 Cubic Inch). It was in a very large Step Van built on a 1986 F700 Chassis. Basically the same frame, engine and trans as many School Buses. Allison auto trans and Rockwell rear end. A big smelly 8 mpg beast.
maxhauler 1 year ago
Like anything from Detroit Diesel this is a very reliable engine. However, the 8.2 can be a nightmare to rebuild. For one thing, it's a parent-bore engine, so there's no sleeve to replace- and the cylinder walls are too thin to bore out for a sleeve. Also the timing set for this engine is no longer being manufactured, so if you can't find someone who has it you'll never be able to properly set the timing.
douro20 1 year ago
i wonder if i could make it bolt up to a SM465? any one think so either that or the truck gets a 6.2L idk if i can make a 4-53T work out without makeing an adapter
DRNEGOLICIS 1 year ago
I had a 6.2 diesel in an 82' Silverado. The truck was a piece of shit - but the engine was the most reliable engine I've ever owned. It had a cast iron Chrysler 4-speed behind it. I think GM used this box because the 4-speed they normally used (Muncie or Saganaw or whatever) wouldn't hold up. However, neither would the Chrysler box. I pulled that cast iron monster once myself (Christ, was that an adventure). But after a few more boxes, sold it. I loved that engine, hated the truck.
554687858 1 year ago
Thats fkn awesome! How much torque?
Ttop50ryda 1 year ago
is that a two-storke diesel?
Sounds a bit like a two-stroke...
snagaff 1 year ago
@snagaff No, this definetly is 4 stroke. The two stroke Detroits sound totally different, if you ever have heard a two stroke Detroit you would know...
SveinHaDD 1 year ago
Just curious, but do the Detroit Diesel 8.2's only come with a turbo?
powell1992 1 year ago
@powell1992 Without turbo I believe it is rated about 160 hp and with turbo and intercooler up to 300 hp. Not sure if Detroit Diesel delivered this engine with intercooler originally, might be 3. party modification.
SveinHaDD 1 year ago
@SveinHaDD Mkay, I thought that it might because the Detroit Diesel that I've been around really does sound like it has a turbo (you can hear it kick it and wind up) so I figured I'd ask. Thanks.
powell1992 1 year ago
I think you would have been happier with an old 6-53T more power and better sound. V.
vaccumme 1 year ago
What does 8,2T means......normally they are named 53 - 71 - 92.
johnsenkenn 2 years ago
8.2 litres displacement and Turbo. 8.2 litres is about 500 cid. 53, 71 and 92 series are the older two-stroke diesel engines. The 8.2 is the first four-stroke Detroit Diesel.
SveinHaDD 2 years ago
@SveinHaDD - Just a question -- the 6.2 was new for 1982, did the 8.2 appear before that?
Alrgc2Air 11 months ago
@SveinHaDD How hard would it be to put one these engines in a non-commercial truck, like GM 3500 pickup for example?
FANADICALCOWHEAD 4 months ago
I have this motor in a 7000 gmc. Great motor way better mileage than a gas trust me we^ve had both. Injectors are fun but other than that start in the coldest morning with no problems.
ragemrd 2 years ago
i wonder if one of these would fit in my 80 chevy c20 put a clark tranny behind that bad boy i dont think the sm465 would take the torq of a diesel but the gear ratios would be a perfect match
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
Dude, this diesel puts out less torque than a 455 gasser...the 465 would handle it without breaking a sweat.
iluvincitingviolence 2 years ago
yeah but u would get shitty gas milage with a 455 gasser this has the closest torq rateings gets the same amount of work done at a slower RPM with better fuel economy
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
I know how engines work, buddy...I was correcting your non-informed statement about the 465 handling it.
iluvincitingviolence 2 years ago
465? they make a 465? probbably oldsmobile or pontiac like the 455 id rather take a 6.5 or a 8.2 than a 454 gasser i prefur diesel im going to take the 350N out of my truck and put a 6.2L diesel or 4-53 2stroke diesel just cuz i dont like gas diesel is alwyas better
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
where did u get charts on this engine?
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
Can I swap the 6,2 in my 'burb for one of these?
KapteinOpel 2 years ago
No, totally different engine.
SveinHaDD 2 years ago
have u cut the front chassis section of a vehicle complete with engine?
good quick removal method!
r u making the water cooled exhaust manifolds urself or buying them?
my friend made a genius set for a perkins 510cui diesel.
tpvalley 2 years ago
torque monster
VillejeanRyder35 2 years ago
How did your project go?
BlakeMason2 2 years ago
At 0:36 , it hit its highest speed.
an6500 2 years ago
no it didnt u have never seen one of these babys wind up
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
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DieselsAndDiodes 2 years ago
Did you ever locate the timing tools for this engine?
andrewb0511 2 years ago
is that like a bus motor?
slooter3 2 years ago
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DieselsAndDiodes 2 years ago
the came in the big chevy c60s an 7000 this cab and chasis in the chevy buses yes it was used being its a chevy engine witch makes it funny how ford uses it in their buses and trucks being they cant make an engine good enough so they broke down and baught it from GM lmao
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
Exelente motor!!
Aquí en México los adaptamos, reparamos y nos dan un exelente rendimiento.
JhOnNcHaRL 2 years ago
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DieselsAndDiodes 2 years ago
i have a 1984 ford f600 with a 8.2 detroit my dad says that the injector went out where are the injectors located because i cant see them ?
1fordhater 3 years ago
Remove the valvecover and you'll find'em...
SveinHaDD 3 years ago
Mine was running like it had clogged injector and I changed the fuel filters and now it runs like a champ! Go to napa auto supply
56BUICKRiviera 2 years ago
Was this available in a Chevy 60 truck?I rode a Chevy school bus with an 8.2 diesel?
legsbluetrain 3 years ago
Yes
Righty736 3 years ago
is that a 4 stroke detroit diesel?
jaggass 3 years ago
Yes!
SveinHaDD 3 years ago
drop er in a 1 ton pickup :o
GoldsLifter 3 years ago
The sound of that Detroit Diesel 8.2 reminds me of a international 7.3.
powerstrokeking 3 years ago
sounds better than the 3208 cat. Thats its arch competitor.
panamic855 3 years ago
8.2 sound like gas motors until you hear the turbo whistle
pwarren1010 3 years ago
are you gonna use that in a boat or a army truck or tank? like that sound of that Detroit Diesel
Setka1982 3 years ago
Detroit Diesel doesn't make two-stroke engines anymore...this 8.2L V8 was the first-ever four-stroke DD engine. What a nice sound!
mrceleb2006 3 years ago
Amen! An injector for my old 6.9/7.3 is $23. The new electronic ones are $250 !
You can put a big motor in just about anything. Just search "dodge tomahawk" :-)
On a more practical note google "69 ford crew cab 3208" I want to do something like that, 10.4 liter. The ultimate American commuter car :-)
castirondude 4 years ago
Is this a 8.2 or a 6.2? I think they are totally different engines. The 8.2 are a lot bigger. Yeah this looks like a 6.2. I heard the 6.2 diesel suburbans were quite common in scandinavia.
castirondude 4 years ago
Both GM 6.2 and GM 6.5 are quite common here but this is Detroit Diesel 8.2 T (or sometimes called 500-T)
SveinHaDD 4 years ago
Yeah the magic 500 cubic inch mark! The 70's Cadillac cars had 500 cid gasoline engines.
Have you installed this engine yet? How do you like it? Here in California you can get them for a few hundred dollars because they never quit and people want something new just because they want something new.
castirondude 4 years ago
Yes, it was installed in my boat and was running well. I sold the boat a few years ago but I assume it will run well for lots of years.
This engine was a replacement for my old marine engine that had a piston failure that split one cylinder liner. If I had a boat that this engine would fit in I would love to have another 8.2. Simple robust engines, cheap spare parts.
SveinHaDD 4 years ago
Yeah! An injector for my 7.3 international is $23 good luck finding one for a powerstroke under $200.
Hey I took some shots of starting / idling my 7.3 take a look at my video's.
castirondude 4 years ago
Weren't these 8.2s poorly received like the Toro-Flows before them?
ClassicTVFan82 4 years ago
Give me a 2-stroke anyday.
Auscrawlrule 4 years ago
sounded like the ones they used in the U.S Army cuc-vees years ago.i remember that sound;how can i ever forget it.
PHOOBEAR22 4 years ago
I think you are right on the money with the cuc-vee. It looks like this is a 6.2 liter GM diesel. It is a 350 that originaly went in the late 70's model cadilac sevilles. The engine was made by Oldsmobile.
deltadog7 4 years ago
Im sorry a 350 block bored out to a 402 cubic inches.
deltadog7 4 years ago
Try again. 6.2/6.5 are their own blocks, hardly anything in common with the 350.
amfan12 3 years ago 7
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No you try again I work at GM than ya very much.
deltadog7 3 years ago
Let me guess, your a janitor? The 6.2 and 6.5 are completely different the then 350 diesel. The 350 was very unreliable, and expanding it to 6.2 or 6.5 liters would have just made it worse, and the 6.2 and 6.5 were known for their reliability. Look at pictures of a 6.2/6.5 vs. a 350. The blocks are completely different.
amfan12 3 years ago 7
I wasn't trying to be nasty with you nor a smart ass. I spent 12 years in the army dealing with this garbage and I work at a GM plant where they talk down on this engine all the time. That is what we don't want to go back to. The engine was a 6.5 per the documentation that they showed. And to answer your question No I'm not a janitor I assemble the frames for the silverado. This sorry reputation is the reason we asked our sister company Isuzu to borrow their diesel.
deltadog7 3 years ago
G.M and Isuzu have been partners for years longer than some people realize,, my dad had a old 80 something Chevy Luv with a three cyl.. Isuzu disel.. The only problems I think the 6.2 & 6.5L had was they didn't hold enough oil, (7Qts) is not enough and compression was up there 21:1 +/- a few points depending on N/A or Turbo options and the turbos one were not intercooled,, I wish Chevy would have went with a I-6 Isuzu diesel instead of a V-8..
TheDieselDr 3 years ago 2
The 8.2L Detroits are Linerless throw away engines,, and they sound like they are laughing at you
TheDieselDr 3 years ago
@amfan12 you tell em so many people get that so wrong the 5.7 diesel was even its own block but they were indeed reliable engines if u know how to treat one
DRNEGOLICIS 1 year ago
@DRNEGOLICIS - I have heard this about the 5.7 Oldsmobile diesel, that diesel engines have different maintenance needs, and that most people drove and maintained them like gasoline engines...
Alrgc2Air 11 months ago
@Alrgc2Air
My mom bought a Bonneville Brougham that had the 5.7 350 diesel... I believe that is the worst engine GM ever made...It was basically a converted gasser...I think she had it for maybe two months before it blew up...She like the car because it was blue and silver and really really pretty...Course my dad hated it because he knew all about that 5.7 diesel...
scott93257 8 months ago
@Alrgc2Air yup the worst thing to do to a 5.7,6.2,6.5 or 8.2 is start it up then go without letting it get warm they have a bit of miss that destroys the harmonic balancer over time witch then in turn cracks the crank shaft
DRNEGOLICIS 6 months ago
@amfan12 You mean the Olds 350 diesel? All the problems with those diesels stem from the fact that they were a gas engine, converted to diesel. Great foundation for performance-if you convert them back to gas.
madtownmadman 7 months ago
@madtownmadman
There are a lot of misconceptions about the olds 5.7L diesel, for starts it's a different block than the 5.7 olds gasser, The reason they usually self destructed was usually due to the electronic fuel pump. They didn't filter out moisture and as the condensation accumulated within the fuel reservoir water would eventually make its way to the cylinders and I'm pretty sure you can imagine the rest. 5.7's can be good work horses with a simple 6.2 fuel pump swap.
FANADICALCOWHEAD 5 months ago
The 5.7 was based on a car engine (petrol) at first it is totally different from 6.2/6.5.
Even I know that and I live in england!
tpvalley 3 years ago 3
u r correct 6.2/6.5 r totally different from 5.7- this was based on a car engine at first.
tpvalley 3 years ago 2
the 6.2 and 6.5 are completly diff the the 5.7 i have rebuilt dozens of these engines
76M880 3 years ago
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56BUICKRiviera 4 years ago
this might come across as a stupid question but would that fit in a 1986 pickup if not would the turbo set up fit on a 6.2?
cuda408 4 years ago
A more important question might be this. Would your truck fit around that engine? Just kidding ;) If you have the money and time, I'm sure you could shove that thing in a truck. Find a good metal fabricator first, then stock up on transmissions and u-joints.
hopper1 4 years ago
one problem......im 16 and i hate the 6.2 in my truck ive had a 4cylinder suzuki be more spirited than my truck
cuda408 4 years ago
I had a suburban with a 6.2 in it with a 350 transmission that would get to top speed in 10 seconds.
top speed = 70mph LOL!!!
Maxillius 4 years ago
LOL!
cuda408 4 years ago
Ah, the four-stroke 8.2 GM! Thought it sounded a bit off for a Detroit (though the 8.2L was sold under the Detroit name). I remember Kirtland AFB had a 2.5-ton wrecker that used the naturally aspirated (about 180hp) version of this engine. Wasn't too impressed with it, to be honest: Made lots of noise, but couldn't outrun a snail.
Alisterwolf66 4 years ago
R u sure its a 4 stroke?
tpvalley 4 years ago
Yes, the Detroit Diesel 8.2 series are four stroke engines.
SveinHaDD 4 years ago
Is it a 4 or V8? cant tell.
Sonds to have more than 4 cyl.
tpvalley 4 years ago
It's a V8, 500 cubic inches/8.2 liter.
Might look like a R4 since you only see one valve cover on the video but the sound gives it away :-))
SveinHaDD 4 years ago
Absolutely. Listen to it, then listen to a clip of other Detroits (besides the Series 60). Much different sound. There's visual clues as well. Valve covere, air cleaner, lack of a blower...
Alisterwolf66 4 years ago
Yup the ol' fuel-pincher! Turbocharged too, I might add. ;-)
skeezix91 4 years ago
Yeah, I noticed that! First (factory) turbo'd one I've seen. Guess all the fleet buyers were too cheap to buy 'em, huh?
Alisterwolf66 4 years ago
Looks like it uses just as much oil as it uses fuel.
Very blue exhaust fumes.
Skoda130 4 years ago
Visible smoke only the first minute after startup, oil consumption neglible :-))
SveinHaDD 4 years ago
So is it a 2 stroke detroit, cant really hear it?
tpvalley 4 years ago
The "Fuel Pincher", as these were known, are NOT two strokes. They are 4 stroke (the first 4 stroke Detroit prior to the S60)
huppypuppy 4 years ago
You could drop that in a pickup without much problem.
seagravefan 4 years ago
As long as you don't end up having to tune the thing. It's almost impossible nowadays to find the tools necessary to adjust the cam-timed injectors in these engines.
douro20 4 years ago
Good point!!!
seagravefan 4 years ago
are u on something? u think an 8.2 liter engine could fit in a pickup? A 6v53 Can almost barely fit in a pickup.
Hotrodx199 4 years ago
Hotrod: I'm looking at it in proportion to a 7.3L Power Stroke engine. The 8.2L is only 56 cubic inches bigger than the 7.3L (444 vs. 500 cubic inches). That's only 7 cubic inches difference per cylinder. Waddya think?
seagravefan 4 years ago
Seagravefan: Yea sure its only 56 cu. in bigger. But you gotta think. Even though its only that much bigger. even though its only 500 Cu in, it could be too tall or too wide to put in a pickup.
Hotrodx199 4 years ago
Oil pan is gigantic
56BUICKRiviera 4 years ago