The first time I heard of this movie was when I joined my school's fencing team in college. The coaches talked about this movie, the senior fencers talked about this movie, and opposing team fencers and coaches would talk about this movie and specifically this scene. When I finally got a copy of this movie....I would talk to new fencers about this movie. This is definitely the best fencing scene in any movie.
@SilentRaider52 Way better than all the CG stuff today as are all the older swashbuckling films featuring Flynn and Power and some others. That don't make 'em like this anymore. Too bad. Great ole film with some great scenes and muy bueno fencing fights!
What about the sabre duel between Ronald Coleman and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. as Coleman tries to both fence and cut the ropes to lower the drawbridge at the end of "The Prisoner of Zenda"?
@musicologo1able I am in total agreement with you. why do people call films movies, this is an americanism! We are not Americans, we are english, we don't want to become little America, we are Great britain. If these people like being little Americans, why don't they move their. FILMS not movies.
@mumandauntyglad Hey, man - you are nothing but a dick. There are more than just 'english' who watch movies - 'we' are not english, we are... Well - we are NOT english. You are a fucking drunken lout. typical english
That's an elitist thing to say. We use the term "movie" because Americans invented the moving picture and called it the movie (starting with Thomas Edison's kinetoscope). When people invent something, they earn the privilege of naming it. If "little" Americans, as you call them, didn't invent the moving picture, you wouldn't be watching youtube on your computer right now, and the same goes for the light bulb. I suppose you wish to change that name too.
For pure fencing (albeit stage fencing), I prefer the duel between Tyrone Power & Basil Rathbone in the 1940 MARK OF ZORRO. It's very contained, but it has an intensity that is hard to match. Of course, I like William Hobbs' fight choreography in the 1974 THREE MUSKETEERS & THE DUELISTS (among others).
I won't say that this is pure shit...but it's definitely smeared with fecal matter. The choreography is formulaic and uninteresting. There are lots of swordfight scenes better than this. Hell, even the sword fight in The Count of Monte Cristo was better than this.
Seriously? I almost fell asleep during this thing. Meh choreography, no music, incredibly slow paced, those puny sound effects, the almost comical emphasis on using the scenery props, not to mention the fact that it looks like they're FENCING, not FIGHTING. I'd take Errol Flynn's worst (and he was pretty bad) over this.
@Lostprophetzzz There shouldn't be 'ferocity' in a gentleman's duel, which this scene successfully depicts..... By the way, I imagine the stagehands had a bone to pick with the duelists after it was over.....
@LokitheCajun don't know what you know about actual combat but no matter what the type of fight it is if the combatants are trying to kill each other than they aren't going to hold ANYTHING back....
@Lostprophetzzz I've been in a couple fistfights, but nothing life threatening, so I can't say I know much about it. But just because they aren't showing ferocity doesn't mean they're holding anything back. Quite the opposite in fact, for trying your damdest to kill someone neither necessitates nor excludes ferocity.
@DreadedGuardian Good movie, but IMO this is better. They don't speed up the FPS in Scaramouche and the choreography I think is cooler, but they both are quite impressive compared to most movies these days.
@DreadedGuardian: Don't worry, this is apparently a CLIMATIC sword fight. It's all about barometric air pressure, and a likelihood of precipitation. Oranges and apples really.
Why didn't he just push him over or punch him in face or crouch at 0:26? This would have ended the fight early and the bad guy wins...Just run him thru at 4:37? Good guy wins! Thanks for the post but I like the sword fight between Indigo and Wesley in The Princess Bride more. A little more exciting.
The first time I heard of this movie was when I joined my school's fencing team in college. The coaches talked about this movie, the senior fencers talked about this movie, and opposing team fencers and coaches would talk about this movie and specifically this scene. When I finally got a copy of this movie....I would talk to new fencers about this movie. This is definitely the best fencing scene in any movie.
Ninjasqrlgirl 2 weeks ago
The fights good. The only thing that lets it down is the sword sounds.
Veyron722skyhook 4 weeks ago
Terrific movie, and a chance to see Janet Leigh in full magnificent color.
I was about to post this as a 100th Birthday tribute to Jose Ferrer... and then I saw that this is Mel Ferrer. Oh well.
UncleMikeNJ 1 month ago in playlist Great Fencing Scenes
YOU SHOULD SEE THE WHOLE MOVIE.
ragenlove93 2 months ago
Not that great , Try Basil Rathbone vs Tyrone Powers !!!!
isawman1 2 months ago
Nothing against Steward Granger, but I vote for Gene Kelly for Acrobatics, Toshiro Mifune for the real stuff.
MrMotosMandolin 2 months ago
So laaaaaaame
DecmanTrapper 2 months ago
This isn't sword fighting. This is fencing. Two completely different things.
Mysidia79 3 months ago
@Mysidia79
What. Fencing IS a form of sword fighting. What are you even talking about?
TieLandProductions 2 months ago
@TieLandProductions Sorry you didn't get the movie reference. Red Sonja.
Mysidia79 2 weeks ago
I admit, I've seen better, but during the time period when this was made, this was probably the best they could make.
SilentRaider52 3 months ago
@SilentRaider52 Way better than all the CG stuff today as are all the older swashbuckling films featuring Flynn and Power and some others. That don't make 'em like this anymore. Too bad. Great ole film with some great scenes and muy bueno fencing fights!
jimidee33 3 months ago
What about the sabre duel between Ronald Coleman and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. as Coleman tries to both fence and cut the ropes to lower the drawbridge at the end of "The Prisoner of Zenda"?
hongbao 4 months ago
where can i buy that white stripes tight pants?
iamlengchai 4 months ago 2
Why films or pictures are now stubornly called "movies"?? Is it an order from "The Empire across the Atlantic??
musicologo1able 6 months ago
@musicologo1able Good morning, sir. It's been this way since 1980s if not earlier. )))
SnarlsAtFleas 5 months ago
@musicologo1able I am in total agreement with you. why do people call films movies, this is an americanism! We are not Americans, we are english, we don't want to become little America, we are Great britain. If these people like being little Americans, why don't they move their. FILMS not movies.
mumandauntyglad 3 months ago
@mumandauntyglad
It's not an Americanism, it's a term that's existed since not long after moving pictures were invented.
ShireBrooks 3 months ago
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@mumandauntyglad Hey, man - you are nothing but a dick. There are more than just 'english' who watch movies - 'we' are not english, we are... Well - we are NOT english. You are a fucking drunken lout. typical english
K3KCT 3 months ago
@mumandauntyglad
That's an elitist thing to say. We use the term "movie" because Americans invented the moving picture and called it the movie (starting with Thomas Edison's kinetoscope). When people invent something, they earn the privilege of naming it. If "little" Americans, as you call them, didn't invent the moving picture, you wouldn't be watching youtube on your computer right now, and the same goes for the light bulb. I suppose you wish to change that name too.
strauss12345 2 months ago
For pure fencing (albeit stage fencing), I prefer the duel between Tyrone Power & Basil Rathbone in the 1940 MARK OF ZORRO. It's very contained, but it has an intensity that is hard to match. Of course, I like William Hobbs' fight choreography in the 1974 THREE MUSKETEERS & THE DUELISTS (among others).
legatofancier 6 months ago
It's a little slow but I love how rangey and athletic it is, frankly you could do much, much worse as far as swordfights go.
PedroSteckecilo 7 months ago
Yeah, but does he do the fandago?
ItchythaWookiee 7 months ago
yawn. im gonna go watch the sword fight in Rob Roy again.
RadiantSilverlighter 7 months ago
Wow. As I was a fencer I was watching to complain but this fight is increadable. Exactly how one would fight using a rapier.
jtbwilliams 7 months ago
To quote the great Skwisgar: "What's dis, bloods?"
Very impressive choreography
berner 7 months ago
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MY ALL TIME FAVORITE MOVIE!!!!!!!
mervrun 8 months ago
I won't say that this is pure shit...but it's definitely smeared with fecal matter. The choreography is formulaic and uninteresting. There are lots of swordfight scenes better than this. Hell, even the sword fight in The Count of Monte Cristo was better than this.
TKDLION 8 months ago
There are so many wild sabre slashes made!
At 1:43 he should have cut scaramouche's hand on the banister!
Theres just not Good fighting going on here....I do like the use of their surroundings, but anyone familiar with fencing would tell you this:
A.) Bad footing = a hit, in this case a loss of blood.
B.)after 3 min they'd both be so full of holes you could see through them!
C.) Wide wild sabre slashing gets you stabbed!
Zorro is better imo
Shegal1535 9 months ago
I guess he could do the Fandango after all.
SlamDunkStudios 9 months ago
the guy with dark hair looks like LADY GAGA
chrish847 9 months ago
Possibly the most boring sword fight ever in a movie, i think
locoyogui 9 months ago
I think Indigo Montoya Vs Dread Pirate Roberts aka Westly in Princess bride is better.
Schmittysniper 9 months ago
Seriously? I almost fell asleep during this thing. Meh choreography, no music, incredibly slow paced, those puny sound effects, the almost comical emphasis on using the scenery props, not to mention the fact that it looks like they're FENCING, not FIGHTING. I'd take Errol Flynn's worst (and he was pretty bad) over this.
kryptoknightmare 9 months ago
HEY, no fighting on the harpsichord!
Hamburgerphil 10 months ago
Watched it as a teenager and loved it. IT's a classic.
gs032009 10 months ago
fags
TommyQ72 10 months ago
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1st503rdSGT 10 months ago
Excellent, a classic... and how could he kill his own brother!
This scene is the best, it was from 1952... but over all it's tied between these other fight scenes:
Crouching Tiger
Rob Roy's ending
Cyrano de Bergerac (theater fight)
Thanks for posting this one, reminded me when I watched it with my dad decades ago.
Sorrento1969 10 months ago
lol this reaaly sucks look the swordfights of the movie troy.
MrThejoker6000 11 months ago
lmao this sword fight is SHIT, looks so fake and lame, you obviously havent seen any of the pirates of the carribean movies
Levisem17 11 months ago
My honest opinion, that was very, very good. I've always been a fan of the european style of fencing.
6shotJack 1 year ago
yea buddy ... sword fighting ...the one that's just as good is in Rob Roy where Lliam Neeson duels Tim Roth !!
rjwintl 1 year ago
More like worst fight scene ever.
ChadLeeP51 1 year ago
@ChadLeeP51 I say good day to you sir.
BestFilmsofCentury 1 year ago 15
@BestFilmsofCentury sorry.... i couldn't disagree more.
this is pretty good....
but it's missing something....
there's no ferocity....
you could change the dialogue to make it look like this is just a complicated exercise drill and no-one would know the difference....
they just don't quite look like they're fighting....
the mark of great choreography is making it look like there is NO choreography... and that the two are just fighting.....
this doesn't have that
Lostprophetzzz 3 weeks ago
@Lostprophetzzz There shouldn't be 'ferocity' in a gentleman's duel, which this scene successfully depicts..... By the way, I imagine the stagehands had a bone to pick with the duelists after it was over.....
LokitheCajun 3 weeks ago
@LokitheCajun don't know what you know about actual combat but no matter what the type of fight it is if the combatants are trying to kill each other than they aren't going to hold ANYTHING back....
Lostprophetzzz 3 weeks ago
@Lostprophetzzz I've been in a couple fistfights, but nothing life threatening, so I can't say I know much about it. But just because they aren't showing ferocity doesn't mean they're holding anything back. Quite the opposite in fact, for trying your damdest to kill someone neither necessitates nor excludes ferocity.
LokitheCajun 2 weeks ago
@BestFilmsofCentury The sound effects are really, really off, but technicalities aside, it really is the best sword fight in any movie. ever.
LokitheCajun 3 weeks ago
@ChadLeeP51 for real this is so slowly shity shit
AztecR3AP3R 1 year ago
@ChadLeeP51 i put it to you that you sir are a fool
kamelele 8 months ago
@ChadLeeP51 It's not the worst fight scene ever, but it is the worst sword fight scene ever:D
razvanalex07 5 months ago
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@ChadLeeP51 It's not the worst fight scene ever, but it is the worst sword fight scene ever:D
razvanalex07 5 months ago
@ChadLeeP51 ARE YOU SERIOUS?
ragenlove93 2 months ago
I like how nobody actually helps, they just kinda... watch.. just like real life :D
gmanleader0 1 year ago 2
This is a fun movie, but this fight hardly compares to Tyrone Powers vs. Basil Rathbone.
DreadedGuardian 1 year ago 6
@DreadedGuardian Good movie, but IMO this is better. They don't speed up the FPS in Scaramouche and the choreography I think is cooler, but they both are quite impressive compared to most movies these days.
BestFilmsofCentury 1 year ago
@BestFilmsofCentury
What about the fight between Inigo Montaya and the Man In Black in Princess Bride?
th3warr1or 7 months ago
@DreadedGuardian: Don't worry, this is apparently a CLIMATIC sword fight. It's all about barometric air pressure, and a likelihood of precipitation. Oranges and apples really.
MrFrinkham 10 months ago
@DreadedGuardian with all of the amazing special effects and choreography we have today i cant believe people still watch these boring old movies
landuncle 8 months ago
Why didn't he just push him over or punch him in face or crouch at 0:26? This would have ended the fight early and the bad guy wins...Just run him thru at 4:37? Good guy wins! Thanks for the post but I like the sword fight between Indigo and Wesley in The Princess Bride more. A little more exciting.
airish571 1 year ago