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  • How is a religion a race? Divisive I tell you... all religion does is divide people. Love everyone equally but crush religion by teaching your kids right. Evolution FTW!

  • Jews hate when you remind them that they are just an arab in a beanie. They call themselves "white" but Jews will never be white. Where in Europe was Judea located? Nowhere because jews are Arabs from the Middle East.

  • Isn't Israel an invented State?

    Typical hypocrite.

  • The closed caption DOES NOT WORK!  Dumb.

  • @ramilioverduzco retard alert

  • Palestine is in the bible. Gingrich must not believe in the bible

  • @drewnut - Gingrich couldn't count his toes and get the same number twice. He a complete idiot, period!

  • Palestine is just the modern day word for Philistine... That has been the name of that region for several millennia, I honestly don't understand these people's ignorance towards the history of the world... Oh wait, Americans, now it makes sense.

  • Newt is a pretend human being with his own solar system, with him at the centre.

  • israeli's are invented people

  • Iranian blows off his own legs in Thailand

    Bankok Bomb - Raw Video - Iranian NO LEGS

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  • Jews are an invented people. Having a big nose doesn't make you a different race than the other Arabs.

  • @DollabiIIz2 lol

  • @DollabiIIz2 Your right!

  • @DollabiIIz2 Other Arabs? I think you're confusing Arabs with the broader Semitic peoples. Arabs, as well as Jews, are part of a the vaster Semitic family. Arabs are certainly not the sole representative and it's ludicrous to just reduce the Jews to "other Arabs".

  • @Wotanraven What's the difference between a jew and an Arab? Besides one is a terrorist and the other is an Arab.

  • @DollabiIIz2 Jews originally speak Hebrew, a language which comes from the ancient Israel region, Arabs speak Arab, a language which originally comes from the Arabian peninsula. Those are Semitic languages. They're not the same.

    Other differences include one having a long history of proselytizing and military conquests and massacres. The other has contributed like no other people to modern science and culture.

  • @Wotanraven There is no such thing as "ancient" israel. Before 1940, it was called "Palestine".

  • @DollabiIIz2 That land was called Israel, Palestine or Judea since at least 1000BC. Of course there is such a thing as ancient Israel. Call it "kingdom of Israel" or something else, the name doesn't really matter in any way.

    As for Jews not being technically white, I'd agree, but it depends what your definition of white is. American census count Arabs as white.

  • @Wotanraven Then why did they call it Judea if it was israel?

    Jews have not "contributed like no other people to modern science and culture". Modern science and culture was created by white people along with western civilization. There are no Jewish cultures or science that comes close to white people's culture and science.

  • @DollabiIIz2 Israel was given many names. Again, the actual name given to the kingdom of the Jews doesn't matter.

    Anyway, I'm what one would call a "white nationalist". Whites surely contributed the most to science and culture, what I'm saying is that Westernized Jews contributed a lot to modern science and culture considering their small overall population. They were and still are overrepresented in these domains.. unlike Arabs who've hardly done anything in the last 500 years.

  • @DollabiIIz2 But all things considered, I don't give an actual fuck about Israelis or Palestinians. It's not my problem.

  • @Wotanraven Me neither. But the fact is that my tax money pays for Israel and my country's army sends white people to fight wars for Israel so that makes it a problem.

  • There is a funny (political) cartoon. If you search on:

    WaPo Cartoon Invented People

    It should be the first hit.

  • I was just wondering if Jerusalem is completely destroyed by a natural disaster or something ( Nobody's fault )... Will there finally be peace in the middle east..?

  • @behwal no because they would fight over what to rebuild, where to build it, how to build it, and which religion has the right to rebuild what where.

  • "Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?

    We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag." Walid Shoebat, former member of the PLO.

  • Americans are an invented people

  • leBENEASE SOUNDS LIKE LESBIAN

  • "giving up the right of return" sounds so bizzarely wrong. u get kicked out tf their homes and u want them to recognize "israel has a right to exist?" i wouldn't , im sorry no one would. regardless both people need to come together for peace. But israel keeps building on the occupied territories so the land for negotiations change by the moment.

  • @nystagmus " u get kicked out tf their homes and u want them to recognize "israel has a right to exist?" actually learning about the subject you're talking about would be helpful. they did NOT get "kicked out." they left, because they were told by the armies about to invade israel that they would wipe out the jews and they would be able to return home again. didn't happen, they got their asses kicked, and now they "want their homes back." sorry, sleep in the beds you've made for yourselves folks

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  • @TheMischaReviews and they flagged your post for spam, typical.

  • @BillKiernan It would appear that it doesn't matter whether you are on the far right or left, people just don't want rational, well thought out discussions about the issues. Everyone just wants a simplified and easy to digest set of talking points and slogans that they can spout out without looking at the real complexity of the problems humanity faces.

  • @TheMischaReviews people always assume i'm either a jew, or a conservative because i support israel. i'm neither. yeah, it's all about easy to digest ideas for sure.

  • @BillKiernan You support that shit hole because you are a camel fucking terrorist. 

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  • Palestinians are arabic speaking so they are arab. they also have difference from other arabs with their own dialect and subtle differences in food. 1970's invention? they were kicked out of their homes in the 40's (and despite what the nonsense rhetoric now is, it was NOT VOLUNTARILY). The pre 1948 advertisments for jews to come to the land were "come to palestine" Is this PROJECTION? u want palestinians to recognize israel yet u dont' recognize them as a people? who is pushing who to the sea?

  • @nystagmus Does anyone ever consider that most of the Israelis are descendant from Jewish refugees from the Arab countries. Try this, disinformer, while 450 thousand Arabs fled Israel in 1948, 1 million Jews were expelled from Arab countries, and of those 850 thousand came to Israel. So why are the Arabs not solving their own refugee problem? Fuck off. Let them rot.

  • @ChiefOren let them rot huh, you sound like you are SS

  • @nystagmus No. When you only mention one side of the story, and that side is so obviously biased, well, fuck you too.

  • @ChiefOren see here is the thing. i never said fuck you, so you are running on pure emotion. i do argue on "your side" about the need for jews to have their own state. But i do not advocate kicking anyone out of their homes, INCLUDING the 800K jews from arab homes. you are mad that thousands of jews were kicked out their homes and yet you are not angry at the palestinians getting kicked out. That makes you exactly Like your enemy but yo ujust happen to be for a different tribalistic cause. OOPS!

  • Americans are invented people, they are european, nothing else

  • @syrie14 True that. American population, and really North American population is made up of Europeans, Asians and Africans that were brought in as slaves way back when. Ok, so not too many African slaves that went to Canada, but you get the drift. If everyone would just sit down and think about it just a bit, the only "Americans" are the Native Americans, but we know they were slaughtered and swept under the rug and they sadly have no bearing on anything right now in the US.

  • @syrie14 Do you know who is not a Invented people by people?.......................­...Native Americans! Of witch I'am 75% of!

  • The title of this video is extremely bassakwards. The country that purposely sank the USS Liberty and tried to blame it upon the Egyptians is the REAL 'Invented' People

  • @glenisah Yes, LBJ and Blackwater.

  • This Channel Is Good! I'm A Malaysian But I Totally Agreed With You! <3

  • why is newt under attack for this...they ARE an invented people..right? btw i dont support newt

  • @samanferrari because that claim dehumanizes the Palestinians. Also using that same logic, Americans should be considered invented as well but he wouldn't say that.

  • @yos5499 Fella, Israel is a terrorist state.

  • Cenk....HAMAS's Charter calls for the destruction of Israel....

    See, this is why I unsubscribed.

  • @SSJ3Ulcer What Cenk said about that is a widely accepted fact. He didn't make it up or anything. (Just because Hamas has something written in it's charter doesn't mean they'll always stick to it.)

    And besides, Israel doesn't want Palestine to exist.

  • To all the Americans who think that Palesitinians are wrong: Just imagine if the Chinese start migrating to US in large numbers, subsequently leading to partition of US into two equal halves - Chinese-America and US, would you guys be happy. Exactly the same thing was done to Palestine.

  • @MrTrollingStone Damn straight. Just ask david ben gurion and dayan moshe: "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist"...."Our American friends offer us money, arms, and advice. We take the money, we take the arms, and we decline the advice."

  • wow..you got either gingrich or romney to choose from, one is a selfish prick the other is also a selfish prick.

  • What a typical 'Jewsih conspirsy' style argument. This is why anti-zionists are called anti-semites "Sheldon send me another ten million bucks" really??

  • dont blame the zionists: they have a plan, and that plan is to conquer all of syria to the border of egypt!

  • @raydar878 Simply untrue. The vast majority of Israeli citizens do not have a manifest destiny.

  • @Darkrider6970

    “If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

    David Ben-Gurion

  • @raydar878 "And now Muslims are saying that the jews are planning to take over the world in some sort of evil plot, right after they chased the jews out of Europe."- Pat Condell

  • @FederalistAnonymous I hope you aren't serious... -facepalm- Cenk style.

  • "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese... the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." - Zuhair Mohsen (PLO leader) source: h t t p : / / en. wikipedia. org / wiki / Zuheir_Mohsen (remove spaces from link)

  • @FederalistAnonymous The Hindus aren't that peaceful, are they? The Gujarat riots, Babri masjid demolition, Malegaon blasts....Apparently they are as screwed up as the Muslims, Jews and Christians.

  • @MrTrollingStone they killed ghandi too , their own hero

  • this turks is lying. hamas' charter calls for the destruction of israel. and yes POLITICIANS DONT HAVE TO SAY WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR they can say the truth if they want. nice to know theres ol newt out there, not giving a rats ass about what people are gonna say....coz he knows hes fucking right. palestinians are a made up ppl. why should israel have to negotiate with a made up ppl who encourage terror and suicide bombers

  • @youtopia900 and zionists believe in Greater Israel

    can u tell me the two blue lines in the flag what are the ?

    Nile to euphrate ?

  • @snaforfun Most Israelis today do not promote the concept of conquering other nations in order to mimic the biblical Israel.

  • @Darkrider6970 sorry to say the zionists are the rulers of Israelis .. most of them were Murderers , Terrorists , and they supporters of Israel in USA are also zionists.

    so your lies wont work with me .. oh btw , the day Israel will be like 20 millions people be sure they will conquer and invade.. it is just they are not "enough" yet.

    one thing I learned from dealing with jews ... DONT TRUST what they say and DONT believe the fake smile they put in your face.

  • @snaforfun Muslims calling zionists terrorists and murderers? A muslim saying jews lie? Did allah want you to lie, douchebag? Exactly why I stomp the quran in the dirt.

  • @MrBigBEARHUNTER you filthy zionist are under my feet. the most coward people on earth. and the most evil ones.

    we will meet soon. be sure to go defend Isarel , so we meet in the battle field. its coming and Israel days are numbered.

  • @snaforfun Israel have crushed you guys in all of their wars...

  • @snaforfun ", so we meet in the battle field" where you'll get your ass kicked, yet again loser.

  • When is the liberal media going to give a shit about all the other conflicts in the world such as the Tibetans, Tamils, Kurds, etc. No, the Palestinians are the "magic people".

  • HOW MUCH MONEY IS CENK UYGUR BEING PAID TO SPREAD HIS ANTI-CHRISTIAN ANTI-WESTERN PROPAGANDA???

  • @AntiFascist2011 I thought marching gay parades in jerusalim by the jews was anti-christian

    I thought killing , stealin land , lieying was anti-christian

    I tell u what u hypocrite christian , you and Israel will disapper Godwilling in this generation

  • A Turkish Muslim supports his Muslim brothers. Theres a surprise...

  • What is the difference between a Palestinian and a Jordanian. Answer is there is none, because prior to 1967 the "Palestinians" were happily under Jordanian rule and considered themselves Jordanian.

  • @AntiFascist2011 thats why most of Israel cities had Arabic names.

    Palestine existed. and I have currency under British mandate still.

    with Palestine on it

  • simbolic for the level that reached the political class in the usa...

  • "There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

    - Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

  • Oh shove it up your ass Cenk, this is democratic propaganda, what a shlub. I'm not sayin newt's a good candidate by the way, but all he's doing is convincing you all to NOT vote for him by bad mouthing him. Political news reporting at its lowest form...For shame young turks...for shame.

  • Meanwhile, Hamas has consistently been against the concept of peace. 

  • Newt Gingrich's comments were actually factually correct, despite being highly controversial. Cenk Uygur manages not to mention that a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza has been offered on 2+ occasions by the Israelis but the Palestinians (PLO) refuse to make a deal until they have Jerusalem (Israel would never agree to that) + West Bank + Gaza + THE RIGHT OF RETURN INTO JEWISH ISRAEL (effectively destroying the purpose of a two state solution).

  • we give up the right to return !!!! Palestine will be free :-)

  • @IamMuhammad If you give up the right to return and the need for complete control of Jerusalem, we'd be a lot closer to peace...

  • @IamMuhammad There are unfortunately other issues such as defensible borders, communication between Gaza and West Bank, water resources, energy resources, etc that will still make the situation difficult. But the steps need to be made by both parties (and outside parties) in order to actually bring us closer to peace, rather than towards a fanatic vision.

  • How does Newt get away with this? He is (supposedly) a historian and (supposedly) a christian. Palestine is in the bible. If he is an historian you would think he would understand this as part of the bible's and Israel's history. To deny it is to choose to be ignorant to his own religion and profession.

  • @starcatcher2222 The fact of the matter is that they have no problem admitting the Palestinians are a people but they have to agree with the USA. What bothers me is that they have no legitimate reason for not letting them be a nation besides, "they don't like Israel". So as of 2012 (This year, the year that Gingrich made the remark in the FLdebate) i am blaming the USA because they are simply bullying them into submission.

  • Just because the Jewish people feature heavily in a couple of famous works from a few thousands years back doesn't make them any less invented than every other "race" of people.

  • Stfu. Palest. Are arabs u know it

  • Here's an idea. Why not have Alaska and Hawaii secede from the union? Alaska can go to Canada and Hawaii can go to the Palestinians. The current Hawaiis can be sent with financial support to the Norwest, somewhere around Wyoming.

  • Baloney, Cenk.

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  • It would seem, by Gingrich's terms, that Americans are also 'invented' people.

  • Palestinians Are 'Invented' People?

    Well, Jews are an invented people, with an invented history and an invented deity (which is assigned a terrible and despicable attitude).

  • if his sugar Zionist THUG daddy pays him enough , Newt ll sell his mother and deliver her . RON PAUL 2012

  • Something that is never really pondered on this topic: What gives ANY nation a "right" to exist?

  • @chrlpolk thats a question that all the americans must ask to their dumbass politicians, sorry thats the nicest way i can put it!!

  • @chrlpolk How about: first come, first serve? Native Americans have the right to control America from Alaska to the Tierra del Fuego, for example. Problem there is that they aren't a monolithic group, but many different, historically competing tribes. So which tribe should have precedent? All I know is, nations should be abolished, for a New World Order, but without the anti-Christ stuff. Of course, prophecies will come true no matter what.

  • Fat crooked politicians are also invented...time to choose Ron Paul he's the VHS to the mainstream BETA.

  • @doejohndoe1234 You probably meant it the other way around. Beta was technically a superior product, but people chose a more popular VHS. Anyway both are redundant now.

  • why should they give up the right to return? which is enshrined in the geneva convention of human rights! the fighting has ceased since 1948 so refugees should be allowed to go back to their homes farms and properties. israel will be destroyed by demographics which proves it's an artifical settler state in the 1st place.even the territories not called occupied are in fact part of historic palestine, so all o it should go back to the rightful owners asap. the only solution is the 1 STATE SOLUTION

  • @boxermaf You could use that argument for much of south west USA. US and Mexico had a war in 1840s, and the US gained huge amounts of land. Fighting ceased over 100 years ago. Local demographics are increasingly Hispanic.

    Mexicans should be allowed back to their homes and properties? They aren't illegal aliens? It should all go back to its rightful owners? NOT.

  • theyre not gonna go so will eventually win, and let's not forget jesus was not a hebrew but an aramaic speaking palestinian!

  • if anything the israelis are invented people who migrated in 1948. before that their heritage is khazar so their homeland should have been the USSR! fuck gingrich and all right wing mofo's in fact fuck america the rabid dog and butcher of zionism which relies on their vetoes. israel will become a detail of history one day, as the palestinians were there before the british mandate and descend from ancient canaanites.newt and his friends will be sent to the gallows i hope

  • For a history "teacher" Gingrich sure can't remember it. It was the combined efforts of Babylonians, Medes, and Palestinians which brought the end of the Assyrian Empire in 612 B.C. Palestine is an older and more authentic civilization than the United States of America, stolen from American Natives and invented in the late 18th century by a courtroom full of rich white men.

  • military industrial complex

  • Watch the Zionist story..

    sorry Newt, "Israeli" is the made up identity based upon superstious fairy tales..

    Palestinians existed since the dawn of history..

    how could anyone deny the exsitance of people just like that? that's the only land they know while Israelis don't consider themselves "middle eastern"!!

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  • I'm a Ron Paul supporter, but I lived in Israel and Gingrich is 100% right on this one. Actually Ramney answered this same question even better.

  • sounds just like how the U.S. treated the Native Americans.

  • That Newt Gringrich intelligence seems "invented" to me.

  • I HATE when people say "Israel has a right to exist!". Shut the FUCK UP. There is a hidden implication that the formation of Israel was moral when in fact it was one of the most IMMORAL EVENTS in the history of history. SO, If you're a Jew, I'm allowed to say "The holocaust was a justified event!"???? Are you fucking retarded. Israel exists because God preordained it to, BUT He ALSO preordained the Palestinian "conflict"...and you know what!? It's probably to TEST the world. FAIL. We exist.

  • Are the American people an invented people, then?

  • @bassclefed yes they are, face facts white people, u have two more generations to either face facts n get out of the way n face being a minority or youll have to really get evil n start killin brownie n blackie cauase white is over in 40 years without it. america belongs to the natives not the fucking crook anglos, sorry but its going back to its rightful owners real soon, kill the kikes in israel just the same though, they are the original mooch on the earth.

  • Newt Gingrich doesn't exist… at least not behaving like this! Cos' I thought a newt was an amphibian, but turns out this one is more of a terrestrial annelid worm with suckers at both ends.

  • How can he say "My goal for the Palestinian people" if they're an invented people?

  • @MsAlternativexxx

    Most policies of Hitler were very leftist.

    Most policies of Napoleon were very leftist for his time.

    Look at the kind of stuff Leftist communists have done.

    Karl Marx spoke out against Capitalist Jews much like the Nazis & Hitler did.

    Is Karl Marx now far right? When he invented communism?

    Friedrich Engels was very similar to the Nazis he hated Slavic people much like the Nazis did

    Engels is the other invnetor of Communism.

  • @IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS holy shit look at this troll everyone

  • @IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS 1. Hitler was an occultist. 2. Forget about right and left sides. No such thing. This is the facade they want YOU to fall into. 3. It's all about Christians vs Occultists. Always has been always will be. Stop speaking with empty words.

  • @SuperSam424

    Hitler & his Nazis were probably more Socialist than Germany is today.

    Nazi German created Volkswagen the people's car to be affordable to the people & Volkswagen was owned by the Nazis government

    Today Volkswagen is a private business.

    Nazis forced all businesses to join a Nazi controlled Cartel & even forced many businesses to be shut down

    Overall I think Nazis were more Socialist & Far left than Germany today is

  • Ron Paul

  • Translation: SURRENDER OR DIE

    Fuck Newt and every tyrant like em.

    REVOLUTION IN AMERICA 2012

  • FUCK ISRAEL , terrorist state !!!!!

  • Americans are an invented people!

  • @petersz98,

    The only thing about americans that is not invented is their condition of being a nation of Faggots and Sluts. That's for REAL.

  • why the feck do americans care so much about palestinians and israelis??

    wots for america in this?? thats wot i'd like to know!!

    there are a lot more serious issues that effect the world peace..

    and i'd like to know that if the americans have the right to exist in america where they massacred native indians and invaded their land!!

    does the Indian massacre remind you something??

    americans are the last people on earth planet to get involved in such conflicts and take ones side!! pathetic!!

  • @idontwantnoname It depends on how you look at it. If you're a highly religious Christian, the Book of Joel says that all nations are judged (and favored) by how they treat Israel.

    If you look at it from strictly politics, a stable Israel provides a balance to the oil-bearing Middle Eastern nations; they are willing to play ball with oil in order to finance their opposition to Israel.

    If you look at it from world perspective, Israel's method of incorporation is kind of disturbing.

  • @chrlpolk only one way to look at it and you said in your last sentence. we live in a pathetic sick world which has no morals.. wot is so sad is that dumbass politicians dont realize that we are all on the same boat and if we dont start getting on well with each other we will destroy humanity as well as this beautiful planet..

  • I hate Gingrich and do want peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians but I have NEVER, NEVER heard Fatah say Israel has a right to exist.

  • @f2pt8 Fatah is the current PNA, in west bank, they say Israel has the right to exist, and they are peaceful. Hamas is in the Gaza strip, they are the ones that say Israel doesn´t have the right to exist, and sometimes launch rockets without explosives in Isreal. So if Isreal and the US really wanted peace they would support PNA

  • @kinoglazvideo I am well aware of the differences and the positions between Fatah and Hamas, but I would be more than appreciative if you could find me an official statement from Fatah acknowledging Israel's right to exist.And please, "sometimes launch rockets without explosives"?I suppose they sometime use suicide bombers with just tiny bombs to blow up Israeli buses as well.You know I'm all for political debate, but please keep the bullshit to the minimum.That's Newt's job.

  • youtube.com/watch?v=QCKfbE056D­c for the rocket

    imemc.org/article/61597 recognition of Israel

  • @kinoglazvideo Your video still does not answer my question about an official statement. Also could you send me a video of how the bus bombings are fabricated as well. Thanks.

  • @f2pt8 I sent you two links, the second one is about the statement. About the Hamas, I am sure if they could make more advanced rockets they would. But they are in pretty shitty condition right now.

  • If Gingrich were to say Israelis are 'invented' people, the US would be cleaning up dead bodies from Israeli terrorists attacks right now. Just saying.

  • @mushuwushugrand And we would take it like the Israel's bitch we are.

  • @mushuwushugrand You say this, but I NEVER EVER see this happening. It is ALWAYS the Muslims who take things too seriously and do the killing. Same thing is happening in places like India, Europe and parts of Africa...you guys use Al-Taqiyyah WAY TOO MUCH.

  • @TheFreemanontheland7 Taqiyyah?

    ugh.. this getting tiresome..

  • @Alkindi90 yeah jews to taqiyah or hiding their true dogmatic beliefs from gentiles. they believe gentiles are worse than animlas, and are like dogs or less in terms of rights. this is why israelis are so barbaric

  • Palestinian people were forced from their homes by gunpoint when Israel was formed. Israel was given 55% of historical Palestine, and that quickly jumped to 78%, and after 1967, Israeli text books teach children that ALL of historical Palestine is Israel.

    So it's one thing to say that Palestinians recognize that Israel was formed, but another to say it was morrally correct. Just as it is one thing to acknowledge that the Holocaust happened, but another to ask Jews to accept it was justified.

  • @chrlpolk The thing is that most displacement that happened was during a war started (supposedly) on the Palestinians' behalf by Arab states. Jewish Israelis were displaced too but it just happens that there were fewer of them because there were less of them in total and they won the war. I can't say Israelis weren't glad to have more territory but if there had been no war then there would have been no need for that or for any displacement. Both sides have to accept the past.

  • @Saddamuel Well, that's the difference in language - particularly when translated into a term that is more meaningful than we use it. The crucial word is "right".

    The Palestinians acknowledge that Israel is formed, and it exists. That is far different than asking them to proclaim that Israel had the "right" to take over any portion of Palestine.

    They will never truly believe that Israel had any right to boot them from their homes at gunpoint after the formation of Israel in 1948.

  • @chrlpolk But do they understand that given the invasion by arab states Israel had to treat Palestinians as their enemy - which in deed or by accident they were. We can't say for sure but had the partition plan just been accepted then there may have been no people booted from their homes on either side - East Jerusalem and the West Bank were depopulated of Jews, their numbers were far less than the Palestinians but only because the Palestinian side had lost the war they 'started'.

  • @Saddamuel You have to go back further. Before Israel was established.

    Arabs were living in what is now Israel. The Jews and Arabs had not come to an agreement. Both the British Mandate and the UN partition had failed.

    So the Jews declared independence. They declared sovereignty over the land. And the Arabs were like, wait a minute, I've lived here all my life, how can you just form a new government, ruling over my house, without my consent or consultation?

    That is the dispute.

  • @chrlpolk "And the Arabs were like, wait a minute, I've lived here all my life, how can you just form a new government, ruling over my house, without my consent or consultation?" and the Zionists were like "wait a minute, you haven't gotten your shit together and made a state yet? well, we're making a state, and you can be part of it if you want" and the arabs said "fuck you, you're jews" and the rest is history. let them live in their slums, it's the bed they've made for themselves. fuck them.

  • @BillKiernan

    Nice analogy. So if a homeless person peers in the window of a house and sees that it is in a state of disorder he has the right to occupy it and control it over-ruling any objections that the residents may have? The Palestinians' slums are the beds made for them by the Zionists who stole their land. Ben-Gurion admitted that it was always Zionist policy to ethnically cleanse the native Arab majority from the land so that a Jewish-controlled state could exist.

  • @chrlpolk You forgot a huge piece of history there. The Palestinians got 5 Arab armies and attacked Israel. Not only lost, got the shit kicked out of them so Israel said "fuck your bullshit" and took the rest of the land. Maybe next time they shouldn't lose a fuckin war and whine about the results. Amazing how you either "forgot" about that or didn't learn it in our "great American textbooks"

  • @RunningHalo3andMW2 Listen here you airheaded halo3 video game brainwashed JUNKIE. The "Palestinian/Israeli "war" is NOTHING BUT A WA