Technically I'm still in the evangelic lutheran church, but I've always been an atheist. It's not a big deal here in Northern Europe if you're in the church, my whole class is but I know for a fact that they're also all atheists.
It's like an obvious thing that you're named in a church, but no one tells you what to believe in.
This coming from a Finnish atheist. Religion just simply doesn't matter in this country, because no one forces anything on anyone :)
@MiketheAwesome100 and a muslim who blows himself up in the name of his god to kill innocent people has nothing to do with religion at all? people kill people because they think thats what their religion wants. therefore, religion indirectly kills people. if there was no religion, people wouldnt kill others in the name of their religion.
@MiketheAwesome100 really? when people kill gays or non-virgins because their holy books its not because of religion? when people use faith healing because their holy book says that god will heal them if they ask is not because of religion?
@yatter1 Only helps people that can't help themselves. It creates a delusion that something/someone is going to help you which in turn makes them feel better. Honestly, people just need to give more credit to themselves. Every situation can be handled by man not god.
I've always love that excuse. Christians didn't do these things... These OTHER Christians did these things, or these lapsed/fake Christians did these things, or these people weren't Christians, they said they were, but they were really Atheists. My response... Fuck you. This from some idiot who only reads the bible's cliff notes. Stop being a child.
@GuacamoleKun anyway there is no end of this talk, i can only say that good luck for seeking the truth (lol) i dunno how long you gonna seek for that, maybe ur already dead and u still don't find the "TRUTH". you just died for nothing. as long as human has no contentment, no one could ever find the truth. tell me if you find already ha! ha!
wow! when it is for a good cause you acknowledge that science gave a great contribution which is true i\m not being bias here like you asshole! you fail to see also that because of science why there is nuclear weapon, geez! that's heavy stuff that can erase some part of the world, you mean nuclear weapon just appear all of a sudden and science has nothing to do about it,ur such a fucking asshole!!if this is way of atheist to make people believe in them well u wont succeed
@dname1000 "i didn't say that science can make a change of course it can not"
Well then what the fuck are you sitting in front of right now? I am sitting in front of a computer, possible cuz of science. A guy discovered electricity, then people did a lot of experiments and came up with shit that worked, and made it more complicated until TADAH! Computers. That is science. Can a dolphin make a computer? No, and the reason is that dolphins do not practice science. Also, water fucks up electricity.
@GuacamoleKun oh ok it give changes to the technology you fucking idiot!! what science has something to do with the major problem of the world, like wars, poberty etc? this are the things that concerns me why do you have to explains about science. does this help solve the problem of the people, does the time when computers was become known solve the humanity? fuck! i think your the who has the problem!! fucking moron!are this your concern y u r now an atheist huh!! fuck atheist!what a bullshit!
@GuacamoleKun i guess yu'll change again your statement regarding science, you'll do little research how science give teir contribution solving the world problems. it seems that you're not making any sense with you're science opinion, dumd ass. we'r dealing with a huge problem, what's the connection of the invention of computers. fucking moron!!
@dname1000 Um, a lot of people have a lot better quality of life because of science. We can purify water so we don't get sick. We can cure diseases. No plague. We can build warm houses in cold climates.
Many wars exist because of religion. Others because of resources. If we eradicate religion and focus on science, we can come up with more efficient and effective ways to use and distribute resources. In fact we are doing this all the time. Pay attention to what's happening.
@GuacamoleKun FYI, religion has nothing to do with wars, war is cause by greed on power. greedy mind start wars, even religion has this, they use religion to a power to control everyone.. your so stupid for not seeing that.
@dname1000 Why do you keep calling everyone stupid? Do you really think that you're that much smarter than everyone, that much more experienced, that you can see so much further?
@GuacamoleKun i call them stupid coz they keep trying to give explanation that they wer ryt and christian are wrong, fuck who's right, this is not what important to life, we don't need to argue about anything. we can just live our life peacefully. if atheist doesnt believe god existence, its fine. if christian believe its existence it fine either. even this video doesnt give any good to people.does people gets benefits into this video atheist?
@dname1000 "no one is right in this world when it comes to belief, belief is a choice"
I don't agree. I think there are things that are actually, litterally true, and things that are actually, literally not true. And I think we can know the truth, and that science is the path to finding out what the truth is.
Isn't the truth, the REAL truth, important to you?
@GuacamoleKun i respect that you don't agree coz i understand that god for u don't exist that's y your explanation has limit,coz what i said is no one is right in this world but u change the topic, what's the connection of "true" to what i said? i don't need to give attention to find the truth coz it wont pay my rent,but sometimes i'm curious about it,
@GuacamoleKun i agree that science is that can only explain about the truth, but i can put together science and my faith to god. you see will only confuse about my answer coz you don't know how i define god, and that's the truth that you don't know that even science can't answer, that only me can answer, don't give any explanation or im in the wrong way, i'm doing my life just fine with god. and you dont know how i do it.but u have to be an atheist to know,i pity u for that.
@GuacamoleKun 1 atheist told me that not only christian has the right to spread their teaching, atheist have the rights too. of course atheist have the right, i'm not against it.spread whatever you want to spread but not the way like you do in this video, their like an asshole that looking for somebody to debate with nonsense and nothing to get at the end, atheist can have a program tht doesnt need a caller,a program that only them who are talking sharing each others thought, its better this way
@dname1000 You mean an electric toothbrush? That wasn't invented to reduce effort, it was to increase effectiveness. I think this is your problem. You don't put yourself in the mind of the dentist, or the scientist, or whoever... you're just in the mind of the product consumer.
@GuacamoleKun my god, if that's the explanation to that then why nothing happen to my teeth, if its for effectiveness? i even bought that expensive little shit, so meaning the sciencetist or the person that made that are just fooling us around? so meaning we'r not safe even in science.
@GuacamoleKun another thing that you fail to see, long before there was no technology like what we have now,no purifier for us to have clean water just a natural way,there's no medicine just a natural herbal to cure diseases.they build warm houses also.science popped up to the scene just because to make life more easier coz human are lazy and the fact that human are not contented, thats why we have wars now. have u take sociology? study human behavior u might learn something how human act.
@dname1000 Science didn't come about because we are lazy. You're right though, it is because we are not content. We wanted to know more, that's why science came. And that's why it persists. We NEED to know.
What do you have against science? Don't you want to know the secrets of the world? Isn't that enough of a reason to explore?
@GuacamoleKun to some people its because of laziness, if not why they have to invent a toothbrush that you dont have to give effort to brush your teeth,that's involve science also.i'm not against with science, your the one who said that.i just don't understand why some atheist have to use science just to convince people to join them and claim that they are the one who is right and not religion, as far as i'm concern, no one is right in this world when it comes to belief, belief is a choice
@dname1000 we can just live our life peacefully." I wish. But there are religious people out there trying to oppress others all the time. Making laws against abortion rights, gay right, etc, because the Bible tells them those things are wrong.
These videos DO help people. They tell atheists they are not alone. They help confused people figure the world out. Watch more of these and you will hear callers thank the hosts many times for doing this show.
@GuacamoleKun yes of course, ther's no safe place anymor,yah true there are, but not all of them,i'm one of them but i never oppress anyone instead i'm the one being oppressed.those people who doesnt understand the bible are stupid, this is y the bible is the one being blame,its the person who misunderstood the bible and does things like that.bible don't talk, it only has written words on it.
@GuacamoleKun what exactly help they get? explain, do we need to figure out the world? i dont to need to figure out the world,its insane to figure out the world.see that's why there is confused people becoz they tried to figure out the world, they don't have to.their life itself will tell what they have to do. there's no such thing.those that thank them are atheist also, does christian thank them, what more if they have muslim caller,i've watch enough and its all nonsense.
@GuacamoleKun the fuck are u talking about now, am i in my science class now? i know all about that, what the fuck, why do we have to discuss about science..i didn't say that science can make a change of course it can not, it seems that u didnt get what i'm trying to say here. so you still don't know the truth i guess, that's why you still make mistakes. well for me, i dont need to know the truth, i am just fine with my life now.if i made mistakes so be it, shit happen and i sorry for that.
i dont need to be genius with everything, i just do what life will lead me to, i just do what is have to be done on the present and let tomorrow comes, that's it...
why you dip shit atheist keep on using the bible against us. what's written in the bible was the event from the past, a bible its just like a history book.but for others its holy. as for me i dont rely my life according to what the bible say, i rely my life according to what the world wants me to do and i only put god in every actions i do that somehow i cud avoid bad actions.i don't deny being a sinner of course i commit mistake, i'm not perfect.maybe atheist are perfect. hypocrite!!!
@dname1000 "what's written in the bible was the event from the past, a bible its just like a history book." Except no history on Earth discusses the same things The Bible does. There is no historical account for Jesus. There is no historical account for the dead jumping out of their graves the day Jesus rose from the dead. Seems like it'd be hard to miss... zombies roaming the streets.
You won't get away with calling it a history book.
@TheIncognitusMe Wow!! your truly are a dip shit moron! i didn't say bible is a history book, its only most alike coz it tells past event, wow what's wrong with ur mind thinking genius? history book and bible don't have the same content ryt moron? i'm talking to a fucking stupid!! and there is no need for any justification, are u listening to urself? do we connect here moron? fuck!!
@dname1000 You should consider learning English. I feel there is some kind of barrier here because you are saying some pretty silly things, like "literally evidence." My evidence was literal. Our ability to process information is the result of our higher brain function. This is a fact. My actually having a brain is questionable, but only because it's not an absolute.
It is unreasonable to say I don't have a brain, therefore I have to say I do.
@TheIncognitusMe really!! ha! ha! i do not deny the fact that i'm not good in english, i exactly know what u trying to say. your the who doesn't accept what i'm trying to to tell yah but you know exactly what i want to tell yah, anyway, how did you know that the brain function this way? you still don't give me evidence, of course you know the meaning of evidence. so therefor you don't have a brain coz u can't show me a solid evidence. stupid dip shit!!
@dname1000 "how did you know that the brain function this way?" Scientists observed that it functions this way with a lot of research which was verified by other scientists. The reason I trust the scientists is because the things they say have actual real-world relevance. We know that we are intelligent because of our increased brain function. We can test this by comparing our learning abilities to creatures with lower brains. Like monkies, who have the closest brains to us.
@TheIncognitusMe scientists says so, so ur a scientists or you have a scientists besides u there? so its your evidence. that's why u have a brain. we will not gona finish this unless you show me ur brain that will only prove u have one.
@dname1000 "so therefor you don't have a brain coz u can't show me a solid evidence. stupid dip shit!!" I've already given you evidence. If you don't want to accept it, that is your choice.
@TheIncognitusMe evidence is a THING or THINGS helpful in forming a conlusion or judgement, what else should be the meaning of evidence. you dont show me any THING to help me to form a conclusion...boring hypocrite!!!
@TheIncognitusMe ok let me clarify ur stupidity, btw, where u from again? anyway, have u read the bible, i guess u did coz from the way u talk u have read it, u know about than i do, so why do u have to read it if it has no account? what, just to have an answer when there is a christian arguing with an atheist, for ur best defense. ur so funny really, u make me laugh.my advise do not read bible coz ther s no historical account for jesus. zombie might appear in ur room.
@dname1000 You seem to think that just because a book exists, it is a valid account of something. But I bet you don't call the Harry Potter books historical, or Twilight, or The Sword of Truth.
@TheIncognitusMe no they dont, actually they are just fiction, so you imply that what's written on the bible are just fiction am i right hypocrite? ok then so be it, its a fiction story like dragons, unicorn, djinns. so you read bible a lot huh, u amaze how jesus came to life while he died, maybe your right, he's a zombie. so are we cool hypocrite?!
@TheIncognitusMe the bible exist, i can see with my bare eyes, and i just see it as an ordinary book, it didnt account of anything to me, not at all. my believe doesnt rely on what the book says coz u keep telling me that all the time fucking moron,hypocrite! i don't belive in god the way christians do or to some catholic, i define god in my own way.and i dont have to be genius to that, its plain and simple. i dont need to argue with other religion to prove i have the better one.hypocrite!!!
@dname1000 I'm gonna assume you're 12 years old, since the only thing you seem to have mastered is the art of throwing random curse words and insulting-sounding words out. Come back and read these posts once you've brushed up on your English, and laugh at yourself.
@dname1000 "what, just to have an answer when there is a christian arguing with an atheist, for ur best defense." Christianity is important in America. Being able to crush it when it comes up is important. So yes, I'd say there is value in reading the Bible, if not to just better understand how terrible it is, and how it negatively impacts our society.
@TheIncognitusMe YOUR society NOT MY society, my society are doing just fine hypocrite! you have a mental problem i'd say. you waste your time just to crush christianity,so this is all what you doing with your life and it served you well i guess. so is there any recognition for this crushing plan,mind if i ask? and then after crushing it what will u get? tell me i'm curious
@TheWaluigiman1 and for you trying to be a genius of all time, who have seen evidence of jesus neither i never seen him, i just said there maybe and its my fucking opinion not yours, live your life asshole!! and if you rely on evidence let me ask you this, do u hav evidence that you have a brain? give me evidence then and dont give me a xray copy of your brain coz of course your brain doesnt look like an X-Ray copy of a brain, and don't give pictures also, fucking hypocrite!!
@dname1000 Please fix our grammar first. It is very annoying. Also I've only seen evidence of this Jesus in only one source of history. That my friend is the Bible, but if you give me other historical records of it I may sway in your favor. Now before you start looking for a pointless birth record please fix your grammar and spelling. You don't want to best someone sounding like a idiot do you?
@TheWaluigiman1 i'm intending to annoy u,ha! ha! ther's nothing wrong with my spellng, i need to shorten my word to have more space and my grammar, i don't care, it doesnt matter. so now you have evidence,you don't stick to ur word fucking hypocrite!you said earlier their is nothing in the history record that accounts jesus. are you ok, are you doing research now while talking to me?
@TheWaluigiman1 well its ok for me to sound idiot and laugh by others, coz it doesn't matter to me coz english is not our national language,i didnt grew up in america or UK. but for you, you have to be very careful with your spelling and grammar coz that is your language. ha! ha! if u come to my country i'm gona laugh at u coz u can't speak my language at all... hypocrite!!!
truly history repeat itself, atheist are like pagans. when jesus born pagans are all against it, and then christianity spread out the whole wide world, years past, Jesus praised as the savior, eventually some christians doing their religious act in a wrong way so atheist showed up and arise. Maybe after million years,atheist will conquer the belief of many and maybe just maybe, another son of God will send to earth to cleanse our sin. i just wish to be born on that period when it happen. :)
....Pagans were againat it because the christains were trying to convert them and were spreading propraganda about them. If I was a pagan, I disliked them to if they talked bad about me and my religion. I don't understand why you make see atheist as being bad. What is so bad about us that we have to go to hell? Don't give me that ''well because it says so in the bible'', Give me a good relevant reason for our ''Sin''.
I wasn't ''saved'', yet I'm doing just fine, so why hell?
@Collective122 ok i'll give you moron a relevant reason for your stupidity and not your sin coz i dont fucking care if you commit a sin dumbass, first of all i didnt say you will go to hell, you'r the one who said that you moron dipshit! second i believed god in my own way, most of the people in my religion done bad things too and i dont deny that you fuckin hypocrite!!
@bonnrabida Your an idiot. Because i literally see no evidence of a Jesus or a second coming. And before you say it. Please give me some evidence away from the bible.
@TheWaluigiman1 none of us in our time seen jesus, didnt say i saw him, have you heard say that you idiot not me! so stupid talking to u! ok evidence, do you have evidence that you have brain? show me the evidence of your brain and i will not doubt if you have one moron!!! dont just give me X-Ray copy coz that aint ur brain look like, i wanna see your brain "LITERALLY". Dip Shit!!!
its sad how these people stereotype all christians..first of all religion is bad..that is just traditions that has been passed down for generations..God doesnt have a religion..He said He would lift his church and that is the real followers of Jesus Christ...this guy is taking about reading the scarlet lettler for wisdom or some type of understanding..thats pathetic...if any one is looking for wisdom read the Bible..and pray that God give you understanding of wat you are reading..following God
@jesustheanswer777 following God is about having an intimate relationship with Him...real worshipers dont go to church cuz someone tells them to but becuz they've had an intimate encouter with God..they have felt His glory and have witness His miracles...you want your kids to think for themselves to use their brain?? kids dont work that way..they learn from influence from others...and now a days its easy for a kid to pick up bad habits from anywhere cuz society is so demoralized..and if they do
@jesustheanswer777 if they do learn its after they have made mistakes and sometimes ruined their life..alot of people dont have a second chance to learn from there mistakes..so if something( the Bible) is telling you how to live your life to be the best you can be not financially but you your self why woundnt you try it and not only that but you get the best reward above all rewards of going to heaven to eternal happiness instead of eternal suffering..God manifests Him self eveywhere you look...
@jesustheanswer777 how can you explain all the different types of flowers and animals?? how can evolution change so much since the beginning of time and so many times and how can you explain the feeding chain in animals??there all interconnected...everything that you see was created for a purpose things arent just there cuz of coincidence..or just luckily...how amazing is it that thanks to plants were able to live and they are able to live cuz of us..we need eachother just like we need water...
@jesustheanswer777 REPENT..TURN YOUR LIFE AROUND AND FOLLOW YOUR MASTER..LIKE IT OR NOT HE IS YOUR MASTER..AND JUST CUZ YOU DONT BELIEVE DONT MEAN YOU AINT GOIN TO THE LAKE OF FIRE FOR ETERNAL SUFFERING..GIVE IT A TRY YOU HAVE NOTHIN TO LOSE BUT YOUR SALVATION TO GAIN..GIVE IN WITH A WILLFUL AND OPEN HEART AND GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU AND ADOPT YOU AS HIS CHILD..THERE IS NO MIDDLE..YOUR EITHER IN ONE SIDE OR IN THE other...TURN TO CHRIST AND REPENT..GET BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS FOR THE FORGIVEN
@jesustheanswer777 FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS AND FOLLOW HIM TILL THE END NO MATTER WAT THE WORLD TELLS YOU BECUZ satan CONTROLS THE EARTH BUT UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF GOD HIMSELF..GOD IS THE CREATOR...GOD BLESS EVERYONE..JESUS LOVES YOU AND IS STILL NOT TOO LATE THERES STILL TIME..IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOUR ALIVE MEANING YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE..
@jesustheanswer777 you need to get straight with with our lord and savior, Shawn the leprechaun. You risk your eternal damnation and will not receive Shawn's splendid pot of gold if you continue to refuse his gift. Our blessed leprechaun loves you, even if you deny his existence. The rainbow is real and you cannot deny this fact! When you look out at the beautiful fields of clover how can you deny that it wasn't created by a loving leprechaun?
Religion is all about some faith that some else is going to do it for you. Do what? Make you smart? TAake away any and all fears and insecurities? What does anyone really know about anything or anyone or how the mind truly functions. So why is there any debate? Perhaps because something in missing in the world like any plan and any concept to defining anything we are doing to ourselves while we are likely destroying the planet earth?
Man does a lot of things in the name of God, but he does not do his true bidding. Men will warp God’s words and make them fit his own beliefs on what God has said. Please read Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, or even still better watch The Gospel of John and you will see he is not a vengeful God but one of Love, Compassion and Forgiveness to all people. Peace be with you!!
@Idotgotit O RLY? who created hell? Does god interveine in our lives and have a plan for us all? Who juges if we go to heaven or hell? I'll let you peice that together...
@THEARBITER1236 Hell was made for the one who deceives all and makes you think others are at odds with you! You have been given freedom of choice! Choose well! You make your own case against yourself as you choose to do wrong against one another. His yoke is not a hard one but a simple one, man make life hard in his own way. He showed you to Love one another, Have compassion toward on another and Forgive each other, as many times as there are stars in the sky. But somehow people can’t
@Idotgotit no, because he is all-knowing he knows the human mind so well he knows what choices people will make and creates the situations that cause that choice. he created us to sends us to hell? I think not.
do you beleive that someone who does not follow your god deserves eternal tourcher? if so you are a sick sick person... If not you can see that your religion is hatefull and does not allow free-will. Its as if I where to say give me a hundred dollars or i'll shoot you... get it?
@THEARBITER1236 You have been listening to, to many wrongfully informed Preachers and misinformed people about the God I believe in. I can see it in what you say and that which you do not understand. A Hitler type or someone that would do harm to the innocent YES! They shall taste hell, but I tell you there will be a multitude of people spanning the centuries that think they will not be save and shall. For even the elect of God can find them selves being last and the last first.
@Idotgotit just answer this: Do I, regardless of my actions, deserve to be tourcherd forever just for not beleiving in a god that I can't see, hear, feel or get any kind of proof of? Remember, we are talking about ME, not someone who tried to kill a large number of people.
@THEARBITER1236 I do not know anything of your life’s actions, or anything about your life in the making. I am not to Judge anyone on there actions. But the God I believe in listens to the heart not the mind for the heart knows what the heart wants to believe. I can tell you this, do not count yourself short; a day is coming when even the most hardened of atheists will believe in the truth about God. You don’t have to believe me now for this Truth is of no importance at this time. Do goog always
@feuchster A New Voice! AH! Witticisms they always come in handy when you are not sure what to say!! I use the heart is a metaphor for how you feel in side!! It is good to hear from others but I hope you have followed the conversation before placing an action of words!!
@Idotgotit "A day is coming when even the most hardened of atheists will believe in the truth about god"
You have the truth WRONG. There is more then 1 god and all of them hate you. This is 100% FACT. Believe in my gods or be punished, REPENT OF YOUR MONOTHEISTIC SINS.
@feuchster It is of your opinion and your prerogative to believe that which you believe. I know the true word is being buried while lies rein triumph around this world. The day draws near to a time the earth has never known. I have not given you any falsehood regarding the Truth, but it is all in ones interpretation that one believes. May his peace be with you!!
@Idotgotit The only truth is that you are going to be eaten alive by fire ants for eternity if you don't stop worshiping in the anti god you call jesus christ, REPENT YOUR SINS, HEATHEN.
I have not given you any falsehood regarding the truth, stop following the devil and doing his deeds, repent, polytheism is the only way for eternal happiness.
I can only show you the light, it's your job to accept it, if not, i feel sorry for your soul, it will suffer.
@feuchster It is you who has sought to find the lies where there is no deception. I believe in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God Of Jacob (Who changed his name to Israel) for he is the one true God that sent his Son into this world and has made him to be sin for us, he who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God through him.
@Idotgotit no, you sought the lies, you are on your way to HELL if you claim there is only 1 god. It's simple mathematics, 2 or more is greater than 1, PROVING my gods are more powerful than your false god.
You claim that your god has sent only 1 son to this earth, my gods have sent over a hundred billion, each and every one of us is the son and daughter of our loving gods.
@feuchster I do not know you but it seems you give govern to wanting to but people in hell before a trial of weather one needs to be lost or found, I tell you truly that you should not judge others for you will be judged. Try a new approach say one of Love, Compassion and Forgiveness to all!! This should be a good start!
@Idotgotit So i can falsely convert people like you do? Your idea of god is a punk ass. Repent your sins, stop following the devil worshiping jesus christ. There was a reason he was nailed to the cross, because he taught people to worship the devil. Your bible has been interpreted so many times, that it doesn't have much trace of the devil book it once was.
@feuchster No! I follow the Truth that came into this world and gave it breath to look to a future that has no hatred. Where the Lion will lay down with the lamb: or simply put Powerful nations will get along with the weaker nations and all will come together as one family. I hold no grudge with you as all have the ability to come together in a not so far off distant future! You may not like Him (Jesus) But maybe it would be a comfort to know that he likes you!! Peace be with you!!
@Idotgotit He only likes me because he wants me to be dragged into hell with him and his father, lucifer. You ou need to detach your life from the son of the devil and praise your REAL fatherly/motherly gods.
@feuchster You hate, we hate, they hate, and these ways shall all pass away! As I have said before a day is coming when even the most hardened of atheists will believe in the truth about God that I talk about. You have hardened your heart but know this that eyes will be opened very soon, that no one will be able to shut them again!! The mystery that shrouds this earth about him shall be known. One shall come and deceive many nations before Jesus changes all Things!! Peace be with you!!!
@Idotgotit You hate, we hate, they hate, and these ways shall all pass away! As I have said before a day is coming when even the most hardened of monotheists will believe in the truth about the Gods that I talk about. You have hardened your heart but know this that eyes will be opened very soon, that no one will be able to shut them again!! The mystery that shrouds this earth about them shall be known. One shall come and deceive many nations before they change all Things!! Peace be with you!
@THEARBITER1236 It is not his way to see anyone suffer, for man causes great suffering to his fellow man.
Your freedom of choice is still with you as to which way you wish to go. I no not your life But have given you the Truth, so live as you are to live, for we all sew that which we shall reap. If you have lived a just life and have not done your neighbor any wrong, then the sins of one can be washed clean by the blood of him who came to give his life for all!! Peace be with you!!
@Idotgotit ok, I see where you're getting at, but then what does someone have to do in order to be sent to hell? because it is not a choice, I mean, do you think anyone wants to be tourcherd forever? according to the bible if you don't beleive you're going to hell. so, im asking you: if someone (like for example a child) does not beleive in god and has done somthing that the bible considers a sin (no matter how miner), will he be tourcherd forever? and if so did he chose to?
@THEARBITER1236 The Son of Man did not come into the world to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many” Do not be caught up in things you cannot change, but those things you can change! Remember He is the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world. Why is that you would feel you are going to live in a slum rather than Paradise? His yoke is not a hard one, but a simple one. Love your enemies and do good to those who would persecute you or wrongfully use you.
@THEARBITER1236 Jesus says, “To them, tax collectors and prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God before you.” (Matt 21:31) Please notice to whom he was speaking, the chief priests and elders of the people. He was talking about tax collectors and prostitutes who had listened to his Teachings and had converted. A child is governed by its Parent or Guardian until he/she is of age then it is up to that child to do right by the Truth. He is going tol give you another chances to know him.
@Idotgotit so, does that mean I won't burn forever? because none of this has anything to do with my question. If it means no then stop following a religion that has beleifs you don't agree with.
@THEARBITER1236 It means that all is possible if you do good to others, as you would have them do to you!! I believe that I have answered your question to its fullest, and now it is up to you to decide what it is that you believe. May his Peace guide you!! Remember that which is impossible for man is possible for God!! For the Son of man came to seek and save the lost. I hope you find what it is you are looking for. Peace be with you always!
@TheEarl666 Sorry for my spelling, forgive me; I shall try to be clearer in that which I say! On your comment on the wicked one to come, truly I say, his time is a short lived one, Seven years is all he shall have on this earth. Then he shall be removed and the world shall know peace for a thousand years. Then this wicked one shall be allowed free for one hundred years, before he is interned in that place prepared for him. Why choose to live in a slum when you can live in paradise forever!!
Mankind is due for moving to a higher consciousness plane. The same way the suffering of gazelles killed by lions make the species stronger, the suffering of mankind will help us move to the next consciousness level. A greater good comes for the species. The next level is the rejection of greed, materialism and selfishness. Our current capitalist system need to collapse in order to achieve this. If you're not ready spiritually, and doesn't move up, you'll suffer. This is happening now, seek God.
Just to correct a simple thing (being danish) - we are NOT automaticaly assigned to the christian faith at birth. If our parents choose to have us baptized, we are. If our parents prefer a namegiving ceremony instead of actual baptism, we are NOT automaticaly members. That boils down to the nordic laws stating that your parents are our decision-makers and owners of all "our properties" until we reach the age of 18
Unlike the US and other countries, we CANNOT be sent to our deaths in wars before we are considered fully adult - which includes the right to buy alcohol and tobaco, and to vote for those politicians who COULD send us to war. Here, once you are old enough to die for your country, you are a fully recognized adult, with ALL rights.
Just to correct a simple thing (being danish) - we are NOT automaticaly assigned to the christian faith at birth. If our parents choose to have us baptized, we are. If our parents prefer a namegiving ceremony instead of actual baptism, we are NOT automaticaly members. That boils down to the nordic laws stating that your parents are our decision-makers and owners of all "our properties" until we reach the age of 18
From Wikipedia: A church tax is a tax imposed on members of some religious congregations in Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Sweden, some parts of Switzerland and several other countries. ....
The members of Church of Sweden pay church tax, which varies between municipalities, but can be as much as 2%. Church and state are separated as of 2000, however the burial tax (begravningsavgift) is paid by everyone regardless of membership.
I thought that they were going to mention how people are being directly killed by Christians on suspicion of witchcraft, anti-pagan pogroms and inter-religious skirmishes in West African countries such as Nigeria rather than indirectly killed by Papal malfeasance or give a passing mention to the murders of homosexuals in Jamaica by Christians/Rastafarians.
You will know God when you hear His audible voice that is within you. Then you know for sure. When it happens to you as it did for me, you will bow your head and say "Yes Lord." No greater experience nor indescribable feeling than that. You will open the door to your heart and allow Him to sup with you. It was December 01, 1986, 11'oclock in the morning that I received the Holy baptism and spake with a strange tongue which I could not control. I found several othershadhad the same experience.
@mannecyberguy I agree totally. Why did God reveal himself so much before when we had no understanding of the world, yet the more we know the less God reveals himself? Imagine how many people would convert and be "saved" if God revealed himself just once to us athiests, which is what a loving, caring being would do.
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Inquisition: Hundreds of years of psychotic religious zealots going around raping, murdering, and pillaging people who don't believe in their feel-good bogus fairy tale.
@basteternal well 3 things wrong with your argument the probability of evolution being possible is less likely then a tornado going through a junk yard and making a fully functional un-flawed 747 jet so that has no ground.. and last time i checked i was not a star fish and you "how about a god, for one" comment well God isn't just gonna appear to you and be like Im God hello. i think you should really try to disprove the existance of God.. like For real, not just pretend
I may not know a substantial amount of scientific info about evolution. But I do know this. Typically, evolutionists base evolution on similarities of DNA make-up, behavioral traits, skeletal make-up, and so on, between different species: Correct me if I'm wrong on that. The claim is that species, over time, EVOLVE to fit the needs of there environment. According to archeology and science, around 99% of species are extinct. Ever since the CLAIMED start of historical document dating
@Scaly420 yes and to add on to the fact that theres are over 450 NEW species created every 100 years, which is how we know evolution is now FACT. Evolution of humans from a similar pre-historic creature a monkey came from, is a theory. Evolution is simply change, it has no set goal or reason, its just change. And animals that can't adapt with change die out. But new species are created from those that survive, so I don't get your point.
There's that, or, PERHAPS, it's as simple as "adaptation" of that FAMILY of species. OR, this is plausible, the fact that we continue to find undiscovered species that have not yet been documented(just the same as we continue to find undiscovered historical artifacts and locations of old cultures. There is a fine line between the differences of evolution and adaptation. There's the old saying of, "The more you learn, the more you realize how little you understand about the world."
The problem is that people ALWAYS add fillers to what they, in the currently time(ALWAYS), comprehend. We're all guilty of THAT -Christian/Atheist/Theist/Agnostic- What distinctly separates adaptation from evolution is how evolution explains the process of change from one family of species to another, such as dinosaurs turning into birds, or, in a childish way, Eevee{classic Pokemon} evolving into Vaporeon(land mammal evolving INTO a marine) I look at both viewpoints equally ridiculous.
Whereas adaptation specifically focuses on the changes within a set family of creatures(Dogs/Fish/birds/reptiles/humans) And then there's the "evidential" claim of statements such as, "What about the heavy evidence involving cases such as DNA similarities and healing process?" All of LIFE requires certain necessitates that are the SAME. I look at this in the same manner as different plants, in no way related to each other, ALL needing soil, light and water.
Such subjects have a tendency of leading to large DEBATES between Evolutionists&Creationists. Being forthright, I, personally, do not know a beneficial amount of information to get into heavy conversations of such subjects&viewpoints. The more I learn about evolution THEORY and Creationist CLAIM(adaptation), the more I understand one thing. Evolution might SEEM more "logical", BUT... Creationism FEELS more "sensible"
For the record, I am a Christian/theist/agnostic complex
@Scaly420 Honestly i could care less if a person believes in god, it makes no logical sense to me, but there are alot of things I will never get. As long as you aren't close-minded, i could care less what u believe in.
@Scaly420 And you think that what you,one person who has done no serious study on any of this 'feels', trumps what hundreds of years of the smartest people in the world dedicating their lives to study and proving evolution to be true say?...the arrogance of christians is unbelievable.
If you re-read the previous comments, they indicate how I HAVE done my fair share of studying(education) on the matter. Closing up, I was being forthright of the fact that I CURRENTLY do not know enough information to get into deep conversations/debates about it. Evolution proven? There is still no SOLID evidence to PROVE it(still THEORY) Arrogant? Last I knew, I did NOT directly criticize/down talk anyone/anything. *Point the finger and there's three pointing back at you, hypocrite*
@Scaly420 "There is still no SOLID evidence to PROVE it(still THEORY)" You don't know what a theory is, in this context. If you want to know what a scientific theory is, please observe: gravity is a scientific theory. evolution is a scientific theory. These things have something in common --- they are proven to exist. The THEORY describes our understanding of how they work. It does not mean "it's a good idea but hasn't been proven."
@TheIncognitusMe ok you that always looking for evidence and of course without evidence you don't believe. ok i have a question for you, do you have evidence that you have a brain? show me evidence otherwise i won't believe that you have brain...
@TheIncognitusMe that's your solid proof that you have brain, that's a very funny answer dipshit!! that's prove already that you have a brain? what if you function not because of the brain, what if ur typing this msg not becoz of ur brain, this doesn't an evidence for me, now ur calling me genius, ur the genius ryt? i want a "LITERALLY" evidence that you have a brain, perhaps if you show me your brain i will believe,maybe there\s nothing in your head ryt? coz u rely on evidence stupid hypocrite!
@TheIncognitusMe you even involve everybody with ur stupidity, only becoz of an observation you believe that you have a brain, nah! give me a valid evidence that will tell you have a brain. i'm not convinced. sorry dip shit!!
@TheIncognitusMe let me clarify to u, robot functioning. how would you know that ur the type your reply and you did not use any computer to make this letter appear? does this will tell that you have a brain? so robot has a brain also if that's what you mean. sorry i'm not really convinced... show me ur brain might change my mind.
@Scaly420 Yes we know that YOU CURRENTLY don't know enough information!...the point is there are plenty of smart people who do have enough information to 100% prove it...the arrogance is that you think your vague feeling defeats their years of research! Tell me do you think you could beat Usain Bolt in a race?...I mean you never actually raced him...there's no proof he could beat you..I mean anything's possible right until proven otherwise?
@Scaly420 Theory doesn't turn into fact. A fact is a puzzle piece, and the theory is the assembled puzzle. We have a LOT of pieces of the evolution puzzle assembled.
for clarity:
Let's say you have a puzzle that shows a picture of a cat. You can tell pretty quickly that it's a cat. It's not like you'll get almost to the end, put in a few more pieces and suddenly it's a picture of a manatee.
Theory is exactly the same. Those new pieces might be a surprise, but they won't change the old pieces.
@GuacamoleKun so ur a fucking scientist now huh.. HA! HA! so now my question to u fucking scientist, what is the effect to your life now that you explain well the meaning of puzzle, theory, evolution? does this will make a change to the problem of the world right away? does this will end the chaos through out the world? tell me, what is the sense of all this u discussed?
@frontlinebassist777 You claim that a god exists, therefore the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it does. That's the dumbest, most unfounded statement I ever heard about the junkyard btw. But what's your explanation? A powerful deity snapped his fingers and created the universe, brilliant. Evolution is demonstrable fact btw.
@matrixlone dude dose someone have to raise the dead in front of your face? should we cut off you leg then have it grow back? what do you want as proof? life is proof of God end of arguement
Not knowing what scientific claims you are referring to, I cannot be sure that they did not create a form of life; however, I am skeptical of the reality of the achievement. Even if they did create a "very basic form" of life, I am sure they achieved it with a plan, the execution of this plan, and the necessary matter. Living humans would have made it. Humans would have been the living element. Having said this, I wish to reaffirm that I am skeptical that they have "created life".
Fuck church, my son isn't going there he has too much fun too have on Sundays
Mutherzmilk 1 month ago
Technically I'm still in the evangelic lutheran church, but I've always been an atheist. It's not a big deal here in Northern Europe if you're in the church, my whole class is but I know for a fact that they're also all atheists.
It's like an obvious thing that you're named in a church, but no one tells you what to believe in.
This coming from a Finnish atheist. Religion just simply doesn't matter in this country, because no one forces anything on anyone :)
XplosivCookie 1 month ago 2
people kill people not Religon
MiketheAwesome100 1 month ago
@MiketheAwesome100 Give us time, we'll kill religion eventually :P
SPACKlick 1 month ago 4
@MiketheAwesome100 and a muslim who blows himself up in the name of his god to kill innocent people has nothing to do with religion at all? people kill people because they think thats what their religion wants. therefore, religion indirectly kills people. if there was no religion, people wouldnt kill others in the name of their religion.
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@MiketheAwesome100 really? when people kill gays or non-virgins because their holy books its not because of religion? when people use faith healing because their holy book says that god will heal them if they ask is not because of religion?
wearestarstuffsagan 1 month ago
@MiketheAwesome100 Religion helps
yatter1 1 month ago
@yatter1 Only helps people that can't help themselves. It creates a delusion that something/someone is going to help you which in turn makes them feel better. Honestly, people just need to give more credit to themselves. Every situation can be handled by man not god.
thinkboutit 4 weeks ago
@MiketheAwesome100 People WILL eventually kill religion.
mrannen1958 6 days ago
god saw beyonce at burger king
ungredda4 1 month ago
I've always love that excuse. Christians didn't do these things... These OTHER Christians did these things, or these lapsed/fake Christians did these things, or these people weren't Christians, they said they were, but they were really Atheists. My response... Fuck you. This from some idiot who only reads the bible's cliff notes. Stop being a child.
skywize 1 month ago 4
If god is real, he's a dick
thinkboutit 2 months ago 31
@thinkboutit
I second that.
You didn't get that from Supernatural did you? lol. I also like the saying "god is just another dead beat dad".
Cheers.
cleticprincess1956 1 month ago
@thinkboutit "You say you're a dick...my bottom spurts just thinking about it" *()()====D<<<<<
radicalgnostic9 1 month ago
@GuacamoleKun anyway there is no end of this talk, i can only say that good luck for seeking the truth (lol) i dunno how long you gonna seek for that, maybe ur already dead and u still don't find the "TRUTH". you just died for nothing. as long as human has no contentment, no one could ever find the truth. tell me if you find already ha! ha!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 Okay, I don't think this conversation is getting anywhere anymore.
We can't even agree on what is possible, much less what is relevant and important.
Go, live your life. It seems to be working out well for you.
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
wow! when it is for a good cause you acknowledge that science gave a great contribution which is true i\m not being bias here like you asshole! you fail to see also that because of science why there is nuclear weapon, geez! that's heavy stuff that can erase some part of the world, you mean nuclear weapon just appear all of a sudden and science has nothing to do about it,ur such a fucking asshole!!if this is way of atheist to make people believe in them well u wont succeed
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 "i didn't say that science can make a change of course it can not"
Well then what the fuck are you sitting in front of right now? I am sitting in front of a computer, possible cuz of science. A guy discovered electricity, then people did a lot of experiments and came up with shit that worked, and made it more complicated until TADAH! Computers. That is science. Can a dolphin make a computer? No, and the reason is that dolphins do not practice science. Also, water fucks up electricity.
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun oh ok it give changes to the technology you fucking idiot!! what science has something to do with the major problem of the world, like wars, poberty etc? this are the things that concerns me why do you have to explains about science. does this help solve the problem of the people, does the time when computers was become known solve the humanity? fuck! i think your the who has the problem!! fucking moron!are this your concern y u r now an atheist huh!! fuck atheist!what a bullshit!
dname1000 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun i guess yu'll change again your statement regarding science, you'll do little research how science give teir contribution solving the world problems. it seems that you're not making any sense with you're science opinion, dumd ass. we'r dealing with a huge problem, what's the connection of the invention of computers. fucking moron!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 Um, a lot of people have a lot better quality of life because of science. We can purify water so we don't get sick. We can cure diseases. No plague. We can build warm houses in cold climates.
Many wars exist because of religion. Others because of resources. If we eradicate religion and focus on science, we can come up with more efficient and effective ways to use and distribute resources. In fact we are doing this all the time. Pay attention to what's happening.
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun FYI, religion has nothing to do with wars, war is cause by greed on power. greedy mind start wars, even religion has this, they use religion to a power to control everyone.. your so stupid for not seeing that.
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 Why do you keep calling everyone stupid? Do you really think that you're that much smarter than everyone, that much more experienced, that you can see so much further?
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun i call them stupid coz they keep trying to give explanation that they wer ryt and christian are wrong, fuck who's right, this is not what important to life, we don't need to argue about anything. we can just live our life peacefully. if atheist doesnt believe god existence, its fine. if christian believe its existence it fine either. even this video doesnt give any good to people.does people gets benefits into this video atheist?
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 "no one is right in this world when it comes to belief, belief is a choice"
I don't agree. I think there are things that are actually, litterally true, and things that are actually, literally not true. And I think we can know the truth, and that science is the path to finding out what the truth is.
Isn't the truth, the REAL truth, important to you?
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun i respect that you don't agree coz i understand that god for u don't exist that's y your explanation has limit,coz what i said is no one is right in this world but u change the topic, what's the connection of "true" to what i said? i don't need to give attention to find the truth coz it wont pay my rent,but sometimes i'm curious about it,
dname1000 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun i agree that science is that can only explain about the truth, but i can put together science and my faith to god. you see will only confuse about my answer coz you don't know how i define god, and that's the truth that you don't know that even science can't answer, that only me can answer, don't give any explanation or im in the wrong way, i'm doing my life just fine with god. and you dont know how i do it.but u have to be an atheist to know,i pity u for that.
dname1000 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun 1 atheist told me that not only christian has the right to spread their teaching, atheist have the rights too. of course atheist have the right, i'm not against it.spread whatever you want to spread but not the way like you do in this video, their like an asshole that looking for somebody to debate with nonsense and nothing to get at the end, atheist can have a program tht doesnt need a caller,a program that only them who are talking sharing each others thought, its better this way
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 You mean an electric toothbrush? That wasn't invented to reduce effort, it was to increase effectiveness. I think this is your problem. You don't put yourself in the mind of the dentist, or the scientist, or whoever... you're just in the mind of the product consumer.
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun my god, if that's the explanation to that then why nothing happen to my teeth, if its for effectiveness? i even bought that expensive little shit, so meaning the sciencetist or the person that made that are just fooling us around? so meaning we'r not safe even in science.
dname1000 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun another thing that you fail to see, long before there was no technology like what we have now,no purifier for us to have clean water just a natural way,there's no medicine just a natural herbal to cure diseases.they build warm houses also.science popped up to the scene just because to make life more easier coz human are lazy and the fact that human are not contented, thats why we have wars now. have u take sociology? study human behavior u might learn something how human act.
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 Science didn't come about because we are lazy. You're right though, it is because we are not content. We wanted to know more, that's why science came. And that's why it persists. We NEED to know.
What do you have against science? Don't you want to know the secrets of the world? Isn't that enough of a reason to explore?
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun to some people its because of laziness, if not why they have to invent a toothbrush that you dont have to give effort to brush your teeth,that's involve science also.i'm not against with science, your the one who said that.i just don't understand why some atheist have to use science just to convince people to join them and claim that they are the one who is right and not religion, as far as i'm concern, no one is right in this world when it comes to belief, belief is a choice
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 we can just live our life peacefully." I wish. But there are religious people out there trying to oppress others all the time. Making laws against abortion rights, gay right, etc, because the Bible tells them those things are wrong.
These videos DO help people. They tell atheists they are not alone. They help confused people figure the world out. Watch more of these and you will hear callers thank the hosts many times for doing this show.
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun yes of course, ther's no safe place anymor,yah true there are, but not all of them,i'm one of them but i never oppress anyone instead i'm the one being oppressed.those people who doesnt understand the bible are stupid, this is y the bible is the one being blame,its the person who misunderstood the bible and does things like that.bible don't talk, it only has written words on it.
dname1000 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun what exactly help they get? explain, do we need to figure out the world? i dont to need to figure out the world,its insane to figure out the world.see that's why there is confused people becoz they tried to figure out the world, they don't have to.their life itself will tell what they have to do. there's no such thing.those that thank them are atheist also, does christian thank them, what more if they have muslim caller,i've watch enough and its all nonsense.
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 You're asking if the theory of evolution changes the world and makes it better?
Well, it has changed medical science and made it more effective because it helps us understand how nature and bodies work.
But scientific theories aren't required to make the world better. What matters in science is truth, weather or not it is "good".
But I think that if we know the truth, it can lead us to make better decisions. Misinformation leads to mistakes.
GuacamoleKun 3 months ago
@GuacamoleKun the fuck are u talking about now, am i in my science class now? i know all about that, what the fuck, why do we have to discuss about science..i didn't say that science can make a change of course it can not, it seems that u didnt get what i'm trying to say here. so you still don't know the truth i guess, that's why you still make mistakes. well for me, i dont need to know the truth, i am just fine with my life now.if i made mistakes so be it, shit happen and i sorry for that.
dname1000 3 months ago
i dont need to be genius with everything, i just do what life will lead me to, i just do what is have to be done on the present and let tomorrow comes, that's it...
dname1000 3 months ago
why you dip shit atheist keep on using the bible against us. what's written in the bible was the event from the past, a bible its just like a history book.but for others its holy. as for me i dont rely my life according to what the bible say, i rely my life according to what the world wants me to do and i only put god in every actions i do that somehow i cud avoid bad actions.i don't deny being a sinner of course i commit mistake, i'm not perfect.maybe atheist are perfect. hypocrite!!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 "what's written in the bible was the event from the past, a bible its just like a history book." Except no history on Earth discusses the same things The Bible does. There is no historical account for Jesus. There is no historical account for the dead jumping out of their graves the day Jesus rose from the dead. Seems like it'd be hard to miss... zombies roaming the streets.
You won't get away with calling it a history book.
There is no justification for calling it such.
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe Wow!! your truly are a dip shit moron! i didn't say bible is a history book, its only most alike coz it tells past event, wow what's wrong with ur mind thinking genius? history book and bible don't have the same content ryt moron? i'm talking to a fucking stupid!! and there is no need for any justification, are u listening to urself? do we connect here moron? fuck!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 You should consider learning English. I feel there is some kind of barrier here because you are saying some pretty silly things, like "literally evidence." My evidence was literal. Our ability to process information is the result of our higher brain function. This is a fact. My actually having a brain is questionable, but only because it's not an absolute.
It is unreasonable to say I don't have a brain, therefore I have to say I do.
That's how facts work.
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe really!! ha! ha! i do not deny the fact that i'm not good in english, i exactly know what u trying to say. your the who doesn't accept what i'm trying to to tell yah but you know exactly what i want to tell yah, anyway, how did you know that the brain function this way? you still don't give me evidence, of course you know the meaning of evidence. so therefor you don't have a brain coz u can't show me a solid evidence. stupid dip shit!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 "how did you know that the brain function this way?" Scientists observed that it functions this way with a lot of research which was verified by other scientists. The reason I trust the scientists is because the things they say have actual real-world relevance. We know that we are intelligent because of our increased brain function. We can test this by comparing our learning abilities to creatures with lower brains. Like monkies, who have the closest brains to us.
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe scientists says so, so ur a scientists or you have a scientists besides u there? so its your evidence. that's why u have a brain. we will not gona finish this unless you show me ur brain that will only prove u have one.
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 "so therefor you don't have a brain coz u can't show me a solid evidence. stupid dip shit!!" I've already given you evidence. If you don't want to accept it, that is your choice.
You have no idea what evidence is.
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe evidence is a THING or THINGS helpful in forming a conlusion or judgement, what else should be the meaning of evidence. you dont show me any THING to help me to form a conclusion...boring hypocrite!!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 Oh yeah, and our research on the human brain yields medical breakthroughs every day.
Is that not good enough for you?
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe nah! not good enough, show me ur brain i might believe, ur boring!
dname1000 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe ok let me clarify ur stupidity, btw, where u from again? anyway, have u read the bible, i guess u did coz from the way u talk u have read it, u know about than i do, so why do u have to read it if it has no account? what, just to have an answer when there is a christian arguing with an atheist, for ur best defense. ur so funny really, u make me laugh.my advise do not read bible coz ther s no historical account for jesus. zombie might appear in ur room.
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 You seem to think that just because a book exists, it is a valid account of something. But I bet you don't call the Harry Potter books historical, or Twilight, or The Sword of Truth.
I'm sorry, you are the hypocrite, pal.
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe no they dont, actually they are just fiction, so you imply that what's written on the bible are just fiction am i right hypocrite? ok then so be it, its a fiction story like dragons, unicorn, djinns. so you read bible a lot huh, u amaze how jesus came to life while he died, maybe your right, he's a zombie. so are we cool hypocrite?!
dname1000 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe the bible exist, i can see with my bare eyes, and i just see it as an ordinary book, it didnt account of anything to me, not at all. my believe doesnt rely on what the book says coz u keep telling me that all the time fucking moron,hypocrite! i don't belive in god the way christians do or to some catholic, i define god in my own way.and i dont have to be genius to that, its plain and simple. i dont need to argue with other religion to prove i have the better one.hypocrite!!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 I'm gonna assume you're 12 years old, since the only thing you seem to have mastered is the art of throwing random curse words and insulting-sounding words out. Come back and read these posts once you've brushed up on your English, and laugh at yourself.
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@dname1000 "what, just to have an answer when there is a christian arguing with an atheist, for ur best defense." Christianity is important in America. Being able to crush it when it comes up is important. So yes, I'd say there is value in reading the Bible, if not to just better understand how terrible it is, and how it negatively impacts our society.
Anything else, genius?
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe YOUR society NOT MY society, my society are doing just fine hypocrite! you have a mental problem i'd say. you waste your time just to crush christianity,so this is all what you doing with your life and it served you well i guess. so is there any recognition for this crushing plan,mind if i ask? and then after crushing it what will u get? tell me i'm curious
dname1000 3 months ago
@TheWaluigiman1 and for you trying to be a genius of all time, who have seen evidence of jesus neither i never seen him, i just said there maybe and its my fucking opinion not yours, live your life asshole!! and if you rely on evidence let me ask you this, do u hav evidence that you have a brain? give me evidence then and dont give me a xray copy of your brain coz of course your brain doesnt look like an X-Ray copy of a brain, and don't give pictures also, fucking hypocrite!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 Please fix our grammar first. It is very annoying. Also I've only seen evidence of this Jesus in only one source of history. That my friend is the Bible, but if you give me other historical records of it I may sway in your favor. Now before you start looking for a pointless birth record please fix your grammar and spelling. You don't want to best someone sounding like a idiot do you?
TheWaluigiman1 3 months ago
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@TheWaluigiman1 i'm intending to annoy u,ha! ha! ther's nothing wrong with my spellng, i need to shorten my word to have more space and my grammar, i don't care, it doesnt matter. so now you have evidence,you don't stick to ur word fucking hypocrite!you said earlier their is nothing in the history record that accounts jesus. are you ok, are you doing research now while talking to me?
dname1000 3 months ago
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@TheWaluigiman1 well its ok for me to sound idiot and laugh by others, coz it doesn't matter to me coz english is not our national language,i didnt grew up in america or UK. but for you, you have to be very careful with your spelling and grammar coz that is your language. ha! ha! if u come to my country i'm gona laugh at u coz u can't speak my language at all... hypocrite!!!
dname1000 3 months ago
truly history repeat itself, atheist are like pagans. when jesus born pagans are all against it, and then christianity spread out the whole wide world, years past, Jesus praised as the savior, eventually some christians doing their religious act in a wrong way so atheist showed up and arise. Maybe after million years,atheist will conquer the belief of many and maybe just maybe, another son of God will send to earth to cleanse our sin. i just wish to be born on that period when it happen. :)
bonnrabida 3 months ago
@bonnrabida
....Pagans were againat it because the christains were trying to convert them and were spreading propraganda about them. If I was a pagan, I disliked them to if they talked bad about me and my religion. I don't understand why you make see atheist as being bad. What is so bad about us that we have to go to hell? Don't give me that ''well because it says so in the bible'', Give me a good relevant reason for our ''Sin''.
I wasn't ''saved'', yet I'm doing just fine, so why hell?
Collective122 3 months ago
@Collective122 ok i'll give you moron a relevant reason for your stupidity and not your sin coz i dont fucking care if you commit a sin dumbass, first of all i didnt say you will go to hell, you'r the one who said that you moron dipshit! second i believed god in my own way, most of the people in my religion done bad things too and i dont deny that you fuckin hypocrite!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@bonnrabida Your an idiot. Because i literally see no evidence of a Jesus or a second coming. And before you say it. Please give me some evidence away from the bible.
TheWaluigiman1 3 months ago
@TheWaluigiman1 none of us in our time seen jesus, didnt say i saw him, have you heard say that you idiot not me! so stupid talking to u! ok evidence, do you have evidence that you have brain? show me the evidence of your brain and i will not doubt if you have one moron!!! dont just give me X-Ray copy coz that aint ur brain look like, i wanna see your brain "LITERALLY". Dip Shit!!!
dname1000 3 months ago
its sad how these people stereotype all christians..first of all religion is bad..that is just traditions that has been passed down for generations..God doesnt have a religion..He said He would lift his church and that is the real followers of Jesus Christ...this guy is taking about reading the scarlet lettler for wisdom or some type of understanding..thats pathetic...if any one is looking for wisdom read the Bible..and pray that God give you understanding of wat you are reading..following God
jesustheanswer777 3 months ago
@jesustheanswer777 following God is about having an intimate relationship with Him...real worshipers dont go to church cuz someone tells them to but becuz they've had an intimate encouter with God..they have felt His glory and have witness His miracles...you want your kids to think for themselves to use their brain?? kids dont work that way..they learn from influence from others...and now a days its easy for a kid to pick up bad habits from anywhere cuz society is so demoralized..and if they do
jesustheanswer777 3 months ago
@jesustheanswer777 if they do learn its after they have made mistakes and sometimes ruined their life..alot of people dont have a second chance to learn from there mistakes..so if something( the Bible) is telling you how to live your life to be the best you can be not financially but you your self why woundnt you try it and not only that but you get the best reward above all rewards of going to heaven to eternal happiness instead of eternal suffering..God manifests Him self eveywhere you look...
jesustheanswer777 3 months ago
@jesustheanswer777 how can you explain all the different types of flowers and animals?? how can evolution change so much since the beginning of time and so many times and how can you explain the feeding chain in animals??there all interconnected...everything that you see was created for a purpose things arent just there cuz of coincidence..or just luckily...how amazing is it that thanks to plants were able to live and they are able to live cuz of us..we need eachother just like we need water...
jesustheanswer777 3 months ago
@jesustheanswer777 REPENT..TURN YOUR LIFE AROUND AND FOLLOW YOUR MASTER..LIKE IT OR NOT HE IS YOUR MASTER..AND JUST CUZ YOU DONT BELIEVE DONT MEAN YOU AINT GOIN TO THE LAKE OF FIRE FOR ETERNAL SUFFERING..GIVE IT A TRY YOU HAVE NOTHIN TO LOSE BUT YOUR SALVATION TO GAIN..GIVE IN WITH A WILLFUL AND OPEN HEART AND GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU AND ADOPT YOU AS HIS CHILD..THERE IS NO MIDDLE..YOUR EITHER IN ONE SIDE OR IN THE other...TURN TO CHRIST AND REPENT..GET BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS FOR THE FORGIVEN
jesustheanswer777 3 months ago
@jesustheanswer777 FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS AND FOLLOW HIM TILL THE END NO MATTER WAT THE WORLD TELLS YOU BECUZ satan CONTROLS THE EARTH BUT UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF GOD HIMSELF..GOD IS THE CREATOR...GOD BLESS EVERYONE..JESUS LOVES YOU AND IS STILL NOT TOO LATE THERES STILL TIME..IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOUR ALIVE MEANING YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE..
jesustheanswer777 3 months ago
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@jesustheanswer777 you need to get straight with with our lord and savior, Shawn the leprechaun. You risk your eternal damnation and will not receive Shawn's splendid pot of gold if you continue to refuse his gift. Our blessed leprechaun loves you, even if you deny his existence. The rainbow is real and you cannot deny this fact! When you look out at the beautiful fields of clover how can you deny that it wasn't created by a loving leprechaun?
romans52345 3 months ago
@jesustheanswer777 STOP preaching ! There isn't any evidence which supports the existence of any god !
tranquility4all 3 months ago
@jesustheanswer777 jesus is the answer to nothing
TheEarl666 2 months ago
Read "Uncle Tom's Cabin" to see how religious beliefs were used by the slave owners."
Zackindy0846 3 months ago
Religion is all about some faith that some else is going to do it for you. Do what? Make you smart? TAake away any and all fears and insecurities? What does anyone really know about anything or anyone or how the mind truly functions. So why is there any debate? Perhaps because something in missing in the world like any plan and any concept to defining anything we are doing to ourselves while we are likely destroying the planet earth?
DrFruedienslip 4 months ago
xlnt!
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
Nobody expect the Spanish Inquisition!
kalajel 4 months ago
Man does a lot of things in the name of God, but he does not do his true bidding. Men will warp God’s words and make them fit his own beliefs on what God has said. Please read Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, or even still better watch The Gospel of John and you will see he is not a vengeful God but one of Love, Compassion and Forgiveness to all people. Peace be with you!!
Idotgotit 5 months ago
@Idotgotit O RLY? who created hell? Does god interveine in our lives and have a plan for us all? Who juges if we go to heaven or hell? I'll let you peice that together...
THEARBITER1236 4 months ago
@THEARBITER1236 Hell was made for the one who deceives all and makes you think others are at odds with you! You have been given freedom of choice! Choose well! You make your own case against yourself as you choose to do wrong against one another. His yoke is not a hard one but a simple one, man make life hard in his own way. He showed you to Love one another, Have compassion toward on another and Forgive each other, as many times as there are stars in the sky. But somehow people can’t
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit no, because he is all-knowing he knows the human mind so well he knows what choices people will make and creates the situations that cause that choice. he created us to sends us to hell? I think not.
do you beleive that someone who does not follow your god deserves eternal tourcher? if so you are a sick sick person... If not you can see that your religion is hatefull and does not allow free-will. Its as if I where to say give me a hundred dollars or i'll shoot you... get it?
THEARBITER1236 4 months ago
@THEARBITER1236 You have been listening to, to many wrongfully informed Preachers and misinformed people about the God I believe in. I can see it in what you say and that which you do not understand. A Hitler type or someone that would do harm to the innocent YES! They shall taste hell, but I tell you there will be a multitude of people spanning the centuries that think they will not be save and shall. For even the elect of God can find them selves being last and the last first.
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit just answer this: Do I, regardless of my actions, deserve to be tourcherd forever just for not beleiving in a god that I can't see, hear, feel or get any kind of proof of? Remember, we are talking about ME, not someone who tried to kill a large number of people.
THEARBITER1236 4 months ago
@THEARBITER1236 I do not know anything of your life’s actions, or anything about your life in the making. I am not to Judge anyone on there actions. But the God I believe in listens to the heart not the mind for the heart knows what the heart wants to believe. I can tell you this, do not count yourself short; a day is coming when even the most hardened of atheists will believe in the truth about God. You don’t have to believe me now for this Truth is of no importance at this time. Do goog always
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit My heart pumps blood, yours does something else? You should probably get that checked out.
feuchster 4 months ago
@feuchster A New Voice! AH! Witticisms they always come in handy when you are not sure what to say!! I use the heart is a metaphor for how you feel in side!! It is good to hear from others but I hope you have followed the conversation before placing an action of words!!
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit "A day is coming when even the most hardened of atheists will believe in the truth about god"
You have the truth WRONG. There is more then 1 god and all of them hate you. This is 100% FACT. Believe in my gods or be punished, REPENT OF YOUR MONOTHEISTIC SINS.
feuchster 4 months ago
@feuchster It is of your opinion and your prerogative to believe that which you believe. I know the true word is being buried while lies rein triumph around this world. The day draws near to a time the earth has never known. I have not given you any falsehood regarding the Truth, but it is all in ones interpretation that one believes. May his peace be with you!!
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit The only truth is that you are going to be eaten alive by fire ants for eternity if you don't stop worshiping in the anti god you call jesus christ, REPENT YOUR SINS, HEATHEN.
I have not given you any falsehood regarding the truth, stop following the devil and doing his deeds, repent, polytheism is the only way for eternal happiness.
I can only show you the light, it's your job to accept it, if not, i feel sorry for your soul, it will suffer.
feuchster 4 months ago
@feuchster It is you who has sought to find the lies where there is no deception. I believe in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God Of Jacob (Who changed his name to Israel) for he is the one true God that sent his Son into this world and has made him to be sin for us, he who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God through him.
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit no, you sought the lies, you are on your way to HELL if you claim there is only 1 god. It's simple mathematics, 2 or more is greater than 1, PROVING my gods are more powerful than your false god.
You claim that your god has sent only 1 son to this earth, my gods have sent over a hundred billion, each and every one of us is the son and daughter of our loving gods.
feuchster 4 months ago
@feuchster I do not know you but it seems you give govern to wanting to but people in hell before a trial of weather one needs to be lost or found, I tell you truly that you should not judge others for you will be judged. Try a new approach say one of Love, Compassion and Forgiveness to all!! This should be a good start!
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit So i can falsely convert people like you do? Your idea of god is a punk ass. Repent your sins, stop following the devil worshiping jesus christ. There was a reason he was nailed to the cross, because he taught people to worship the devil. Your bible has been interpreted so many times, that it doesn't have much trace of the devil book it once was.
feuchster 4 months ago
@feuchster No! I follow the Truth that came into this world and gave it breath to look to a future that has no hatred. Where the Lion will lay down with the lamb: or simply put Powerful nations will get along with the weaker nations and all will come together as one family. I hold no grudge with you as all have the ability to come together in a not so far off distant future! You may not like Him (Jesus) But maybe it would be a comfort to know that he likes you!! Peace be with you!!
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit He only likes me because he wants me to be dragged into hell with him and his father, lucifer. You ou need to detach your life from the son of the devil and praise your REAL fatherly/motherly gods.
feuchster 4 months ago
@feuchster You hate, we hate, they hate, and these ways shall all pass away! As I have said before a day is coming when even the most hardened of atheists will believe in the truth about God that I talk about. You have hardened your heart but know this that eyes will be opened very soon, that no one will be able to shut them again!! The mystery that shrouds this earth about him shall be known. One shall come and deceive many nations before Jesus changes all Things!! Peace be with you!!!
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit You hate, we hate, they hate, and these ways shall all pass away! As I have said before a day is coming when even the most hardened of monotheists will believe in the truth about the Gods that I talk about. You have hardened your heart but know this that eyes will be opened very soon, that no one will be able to shut them again!! The mystery that shrouds this earth about them shall be known. One shall come and deceive many nations before they change all Things!! Peace be with you!
feuchster 4 months ago
@Idotgotit I for one can't wait for the Anti-christ to come and remove all xtian sheeple from the face of the earth
TheEarl666 2 months ago
@Idotgotit just answer, if I died right now, would I be tourcherd forever?
THEARBITER1236 4 months ago
@THEARBITER1236 It is not his way to see anyone suffer, for man causes great suffering to his fellow man.
Your freedom of choice is still with you as to which way you wish to go. I no not your life But have given you the Truth, so live as you are to live, for we all sew that which we shall reap. If you have lived a just life and have not done your neighbor any wrong, then the sins of one can be washed clean by the blood of him who came to give his life for all!! Peace be with you!!
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit ok, I see where you're getting at, but then what does someone have to do in order to be sent to hell? because it is not a choice, I mean, do you think anyone wants to be tourcherd forever? according to the bible if you don't beleive you're going to hell. so, im asking you: if someone (like for example a child) does not beleive in god and has done somthing that the bible considers a sin (no matter how miner), will he be tourcherd forever? and if so did he chose to?
THEARBITER1236 4 months ago
@THEARBITER1236 The Son of Man did not come into the world to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many” Do not be caught up in things you cannot change, but those things you can change! Remember He is the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world. Why is that you would feel you are going to live in a slum rather than Paradise? His yoke is not a hard one, but a simple one. Love your enemies and do good to those who would persecute you or wrongfully use you.
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit stop doging the question, yes or no, thats all I want to hear.
THEARBITER1236 4 months ago
@THEARBITER1236 Jesus says, “To them, tax collectors and prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God before you.” (Matt 21:31) Please notice to whom he was speaking, the chief priests and elders of the people. He was talking about tax collectors and prostitutes who had listened to his Teachings and had converted. A child is governed by its Parent or Guardian until he/she is of age then it is up to that child to do right by the Truth. He is going tol give you another chances to know him.
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit so, does that mean I won't burn forever? because none of this has anything to do with my question. If it means no then stop following a religion that has beleifs you don't agree with.
THEARBITER1236 4 months ago
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@THEARBITER1236 It means that all is possible if you do good to others, as you would have them do to you!! I believe that I have answered your question to its fullest, and now it is up to you to decide what it is that you believe. May his Peace guide you!! Remember that which is impossible for man is possible for God!! For the Son of man came to seek and save the lost. I hope you find what it is you are looking for. Peace be with you always!
Idotgotit 4 months ago
@Idotgotit Yes I will try to do goog always,you idiotic xtian sheeple learn how to spell. Ave Luciferi
TheEarl666 2 months ago
@TheEarl666 Sorry for my spelling, forgive me; I shall try to be clearer in that which I say! On your comment on the wicked one to come, truly I say, his time is a short lived one, Seven years is all he shall have on this earth. Then he shall be removed and the world shall know peace for a thousand years. Then this wicked one shall be allowed free for one hundred years, before he is interned in that place prepared for him. Why choose to live in a slum when you can live in paradise forever!!
Idotgotit 2 months ago
Terrible speaker.
gabeasher187 5 months ago
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Mankind is due for moving to a higher consciousness plane. The same way the suffering of gazelles killed by lions make the species stronger, the suffering of mankind will help us move to the next consciousness level. A greater good comes for the species. The next level is the rejection of greed, materialism and selfishness. Our current capitalist system need to collapse in order to achieve this. If you're not ready spiritually, and doesn't move up, you'll suffer. This is happening now, seek God.
dejesusluisx 5 months ago
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Just to correct a simple thing (being danish) - we are NOT automaticaly assigned to the christian faith at birth. If our parents choose to have us baptized, we are. If our parents prefer a namegiving ceremony instead of actual baptism, we are NOT automaticaly members. That boils down to the nordic laws stating that your parents are our decision-makers and owners of all "our properties" until we reach the age of 18
tdjdk 5 months ago
Unlike the US and other countries, we CANNOT be sent to our deaths in wars before we are considered fully adult - which includes the right to buy alcohol and tobaco, and to vote for those politicians who COULD send us to war. Here, once you are old enough to die for your country, you are a fully recognized adult, with ALL rights.
Seems only fair
tdjdk 5 months ago
Just to correct a simple thing (being danish) - we are NOT automaticaly assigned to the christian faith at birth. If our parents choose to have us baptized, we are. If our parents prefer a namegiving ceremony instead of actual baptism, we are NOT automaticaly members. That boils down to the nordic laws stating that your parents are our decision-makers and owners of all "our properties" until we reach the age of 18
tdjdk 5 months ago 2
From Wikipedia: A church tax is a tax imposed on members of some religious congregations in Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Sweden, some parts of Switzerland and several other countries. ....
The members of Church of Sweden pay church tax, which varies between municipalities, but can be as much as 2%. Church and state are separated as of 2000, however the burial tax (begravningsavgift) is paid by everyone regardless of membership.
csnowutube 5 months ago
Typical half truths.
onemarktwoyou 5 months ago
I thought that they were going to mention how people are being directly killed by Christians on suspicion of witchcraft, anti-pagan pogroms and inter-religious skirmishes in West African countries such as Nigeria rather than indirectly killed by Papal malfeasance or give a passing mention to the murders of homosexuals in Jamaica by Christians/Rastafarians.
So many surly sects, so little time.
EatWave 6 months ago
You will know God when you hear His audible voice that is within you. Then you know for sure. When it happens to you as it did for me, you will bow your head and say "Yes Lord." No greater experience nor indescribable feeling than that. You will open the door to your heart and allow Him to sup with you. It was December 01, 1986, 11'oclock in the morning that I received the Holy baptism and spake with a strange tongue which I could not control. I found several othershadhad the same experience.
Corduroy66 6 months ago
@Corduroy66 Personally, I wish that god would just make himself visible once in a while; just my own opinion.
mannecyberguy 5 months ago
@mannecyberguy I agree totally. Why did God reveal himself so much before when we had no understanding of the world, yet the more we know the less God reveals himself? Imagine how many people would convert and be "saved" if God revealed himself just once to us athiests, which is what a loving, caring being would do.
Wonmanbanned 5 months ago
@mannecyberguy
Me too!
FreeMindedAthiest 5 months ago
@Corduroy66 Evidently you are on drugs
TheEarl666 2 months ago
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Religious study is sort of a hobby of mine. The Church of Sweden was abolished in 2000.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 6 months ago
@xJoeEDangerouslyx To be accurate, the Church of Sweden was not abolished. It still exists. It simply ceased being the state church in 2000.
paxpaul 6 months ago
Inquisition: Hundreds of years of psychotic religious zealots going around raping, murdering, and pillaging people who don't believe in their feel-good bogus fairy tale.
M1sterE321 7 months ago
@basteternal well 3 things wrong with your argument the probability of evolution being possible is less likely then a tornado going through a junk yard and making a fully functional un-flawed 747 jet so that has no ground.. and last time i checked i was not a star fish and you "how about a god, for one" comment well God isn't just gonna appear to you and be like Im God hello. i think you should really try to disprove the existance of God.. like For real, not just pretend
....Buddy....
frontlinebassist777 7 months ago
@frontlinebassist777 Evolution is not only possible, but it's a fact.
You have a thorough misunderstanding of what evolution is...and it is not the act of throwing things together.
Go back and study evolution.. then you stand a chance debating against me.
Good bye!
BastEternal 7 months ago 18
@BastEternal
I may not know a substantial amount of scientific info about evolution. But I do know this. Typically, evolutionists base evolution on similarities of DNA make-up, behavioral traits, skeletal make-up, and so on, between different species: Correct me if I'm wrong on that. The claim is that species, over time, EVOLVE to fit the needs of there environment. According to archeology and science, around 99% of species are extinct. Ever since the CLAIMED start of historical document dating
Scaly420 6 months ago
@Scaly420 yes and to add on to the fact that theres are over 450 NEW species created every 100 years, which is how we know evolution is now FACT. Evolution of humans from a similar pre-historic creature a monkey came from, is a theory. Evolution is simply change, it has no set goal or reason, its just change. And animals that can't adapt with change die out. But new species are created from those that survive, so I don't get your point.
taj561 5 months ago
@taj561
There's that, or, PERHAPS, it's as simple as "adaptation" of that FAMILY of species. OR, this is plausible, the fact that we continue to find undiscovered species that have not yet been documented(just the same as we continue to find undiscovered historical artifacts and locations of old cultures. There is a fine line between the differences of evolution and adaptation. There's the old saying of, "The more you learn, the more you realize how little you understand about the world."
Scaly420 5 months ago
@taj561
The problem is that people ALWAYS add fillers to what they, in the currently time(ALWAYS), comprehend. We're all guilty of THAT -Christian/Atheist/Theist/Agnostic- What distinctly separates adaptation from evolution is how evolution explains the process of change from one family of species to another, such as dinosaurs turning into birds, or, in a childish way, Eevee{classic Pokemon} evolving into Vaporeon(land mammal evolving INTO a marine) I look at both viewpoints equally ridiculous.
Scaly420 5 months ago
@taj561
Whereas adaptation specifically focuses on the changes within a set family of creatures(Dogs/Fish/birds/reptiles/humans) And then there's the "evidential" claim of statements such as, "What about the heavy evidence involving cases such as DNA similarities and healing process?" All of LIFE requires certain necessitates that are the SAME. I look at this in the same manner as different plants, in no way related to each other, ALL needing soil, light and water.
Scaly420 5 months ago
@taj561
Such subjects have a tendency of leading to large DEBATES between Evolutionists&Creationists. Being forthright, I, personally, do not know a beneficial amount of information to get into heavy conversations of such subjects&viewpoints. The more I learn about evolution THEORY and Creationist CLAIM(adaptation), the more I understand one thing. Evolution might SEEM more "logical", BUT... Creationism FEELS more "sensible"
For the record, I am a Christian/theist/agnostic complex
Hard2explain
Scaly420 5 months ago
@Scaly420 Honestly i could care less if a person believes in god, it makes no logical sense to me, but there are alot of things I will never get. As long as you aren't close-minded, i could care less what u believe in.
taj561 5 months ago
@taj561
Well that's exactly it. Close-minded is always the problem in the first place. It shuts you off from the world.
Let's keep it real. It's not my say for what you believe in. Not even evolution
Short and sweet
~Love~ which seems to be slipping due to growing problems
Scaly420 5 months ago
@Scaly420 And you think that what you,one person who has done no serious study on any of this 'feels', trumps what hundreds of years of the smartest people in the world dedicating their lives to study and proving evolution to be true say?...the arrogance of christians is unbelievable.
pieter292 5 months ago
@pieter292
If you re-read the previous comments, they indicate how I HAVE done my fair share of studying(education) on the matter. Closing up, I was being forthright of the fact that I CURRENTLY do not know enough information to get into deep conversations/debates about it. Evolution proven? There is still no SOLID evidence to PROVE it(still THEORY) Arrogant? Last I knew, I did NOT directly criticize/down talk anyone/anything. *Point the finger and there's three pointing back at you, hypocrite*
Scaly420 5 months ago
@Scaly420 "There is still no SOLID evidence to PROVE it(still THEORY)" You don't know what a theory is, in this context. If you want to know what a scientific theory is, please observe: gravity is a scientific theory. evolution is a scientific theory. These things have something in common --- they are proven to exist. The THEORY describes our understanding of how they work. It does not mean "it's a good idea but hasn't been proven."
It has been proven.
TheIncognitusMe 5 months ago 6
@TheIncognitusMe ok you that always looking for evidence and of course without evidence you don't believe. ok i have a question for you, do you have evidence that you have a brain? show me evidence otherwise i won't believe that you have brain...
dname1000 3 months ago
@dname1000 My evidence that I have a brain is that everyone else on Earth has been observed to have a brain, beyond a reasonable doubt.
My evidence that I have a brain is that I'm typing this message.
My evidence that I have a brain is that I'm functioning.
Anything else, genius?
TheIncognitusMe 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe that's your solid proof that you have brain, that's a very funny answer dipshit!! that's prove already that you have a brain? what if you function not because of the brain, what if ur typing this msg not becoz of ur brain, this doesn't an evidence for me, now ur calling me genius, ur the genius ryt? i want a "LITERALLY" evidence that you have a brain, perhaps if you show me your brain i will believe,maybe there\s nothing in your head ryt? coz u rely on evidence stupid hypocrite!
dname1000 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe you even involve everybody with ur stupidity, only becoz of an observation you believe that you have a brain, nah! give me a valid evidence that will tell you have a brain. i'm not convinced. sorry dip shit!!
dname1000 3 months ago
@TheIncognitusMe let me clarify to u, robot functioning. how would you know that ur the type your reply and you did not use any computer to make this letter appear? does this will tell that you have a brain? so robot has a brain also if that's what you mean. sorry i'm not really convinced... show me ur brain might change my mind.
dname1000 3 months ago
@Scaly420 Yes we know that YOU CURRENTLY don't know enough information!...the point is there are plenty of smart people who do have enough information to 100% prove it...the arrogance is that you think your vague feeling defeats their years of research! Tell me do you think you could beat Usain Bolt in a race?...I mean you never actually raced him...there's no proof he could beat you..I mean anything's possible right until proven otherwise?
pieter292 5 months ago
@Scaly420 Theory doesn't turn into fact. A fact is a puzzle piece, and the theory is the assembled puzzle. We have a LOT of pieces of the evolution puzzle assembled.
for clarity:
Let's say you have a puzzle that shows a picture of a cat. You can tell pretty quickly that it's a cat. It's not like you'll get almost to the end, put in a few more pieces and suddenly it's a picture of a manatee.
Theory is exactly the same. Those new pieces might be a surprise, but they won't change the old pieces.
GuacamoleKun 5 months ago 7
@GuacamoleKun verry good analogi :)
but how would you catagorize a hypothesis using your analogi?
nejtilsvampe 5 months ago
@GuacamoleKun so ur a fucking scientist now huh.. HA! HA! so now my question to u fucking scientist, what is the effect to your life now that you explain well the meaning of puzzle, theory, evolution? does this will make a change to the problem of the world right away? does this will end the chaos through out the world? tell me, what is the sense of all this u discussed?
dname1000 3 months ago
@BastEternal evolution is a theory... there is a difference between theory and fact
LatinPrayers 5 months ago
@LatinPrayers Sorry, but you're wrong. There is a difference between scientific theory and layman's theory..not one and the same..look it up.
BastEternal 5 months ago
@frontlinebassist777 You claim that a god exists, therefore the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it does. That's the dumbest, most unfounded statement I ever heard about the junkyard btw. But what's your explanation? A powerful deity snapped his fingers and created the universe, brilliant. Evolution is demonstrable fact btw.
ajax515 7 months ago
@matrixlone dude dose someone have to raise the dead in front of your face? should we cut off you leg then have it grow back? what do you want as proof? life is proof of God end of arguement
frontlinebassist777 8 months ago
@frontlinebassist777
Life is proof of life, not of a god.
"what do you want as proof?"
How about a god,for one.
The things you describe are the actions you would assign to a god if they happened, but it doesn't prove the god itself.
Doctors can already bring some people back from clinical death, so bringing people back from the dead wouldn't be at all extraordinary.
As far as limbs go, starfish can lose a limb and regenerate. So it is possible that human beings could evolve to do the same.
BastEternal 7 months ago
@frontlinebassist777 Life is not proof of god. Recently scientist created life only a very basic form but it was still life.
gzac95 6 months ago
@gzac95 They used to claim life does not come from non-life. Well we have proven it does what now.
HateFilledLies 6 months ago
@gzac95 Wrong, science has not yet created life from non-life. We've come damn close though
Keinlicht 6 months ago
Not knowing what scientific claims you are referring to, I cannot be sure that they did not create a form of life; however, I am skeptical of the reality of the achievement. Even if they did create a "very basic form" of life, I am sure they achieved it with a plan, the execution of this plan, and the necessary matter. Living humans would have made it. Humans would have been the living element. Having said this, I wish to reaffirm that I am skeptical that they have "created life".
DewHonour 6 months ago
@frontlinebassist777 To the True non-thinking believer no proof is necessary!
TheEarl666 2 months ago