love the video...but you forgot one thing: not one can "kill" Michael Jordan! especially not Kobe Bryant! MJ won his first 3 rings with Pippen and basically a bunch of scrubs (and Horace Grant who was pretty decent)! Kobe won his 1st 3 cuz of Shaq! so the 1st 3 rings are Shaq's not his!
@RoCxJetson yes but what i meant by that is that Kobe only has 2 finals MVPs...and was the "Pippen" (2nd guy) in the 1st 3 championships; Jordan has 6...also Kobe had much better teammates than Jordan (for the first 3 rings at least)...i don't get why they're even mentioned in the same conversation considering how many more awards and accolades Jordan has than Kobe
No one who's shot 40% OR LOWER & has been OUTPERFORMED by a teammate in 5 career finals, and has TWICE set the record for the most MISSED shots in a finals, can EVER be that..
"Kobe is the most skilled player of all time"
Then WHERE'S the consistently "most skilled ever" individual RESULTS from him to PROVE it?
U can't be more skilled than the next guy at something when you're consistently fairing WORSE at it than him
@10araluna23 WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A NEXT JORDAN! WE WANT TO SEE THE NEXT KOBE! WE WANT TO SEE A PLAYER SCORE 82 BUT WITH A BETTER PERFORMANCE, 43 IN A HALF WITH MORE THAN 8 THREE'S, STREAKS OF 35 ,40, AND 50 PT'S LONGER THAN KOBE, A PLAYER WHO 'S GREATEST GAMES MAKES KOBE'S ARCHIVE LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY THE WAY KOBE'S MAKE JORDANS LOOK!ECT! KOBE IS THE GREATEST PLAYER THE NBA HAS EVER SEEN! PERIOD!
he won with OLD FISHER, ron artest the worst shooter of all time, pau played fairly well in the playoff runs, odom who dissapears some games, bynum who had one leg, and a bunch of role players, who couldnt shoot, couldnt create, and were lead by Kobe against the fuckin celtics. if Kobe played, in his prime, when he scored 81 points and shit, with this Lakers team, they would win untill he became old, 4, 5 in a row. Kobe never played in his prime with a contender. Kobe is the best ever.
slightly better in the clutch... MJs team was 20 times better than Kobe's team now (as the "leader") and Kobe doesnt play with another hall of famer like MJ did. and in the finals, Kobe Bean Bryant is triple teamed every important possession because he has NO shooters and NO other playmaker on the floor. unlike MJ who is SINGLE COVERED in 1998, after all hes done, in an attempt to win the game. maybe im crazy but one would think to double MJ in that situation. i mean, Kobe won with SCRUBS man.
"MJs team was 20 times better than Kobe's team now"
Kobe's the 1 that played with 8 different guys during the pre title & title seasons, that avg'd in double figures. Kobe's the 1 the started out on a 56 win playoff team with a All Time Top 10 player in Shaq, and 2 other All Stars.
MJ & kobe vs their teammates in career Finals FG%
MJ: 443-911 (49%) > teammates: 865-1990 (45%)
KB: 333-808 (41%) < teammates: 1041-2161 (48%)
If his teams were so much better, explain that dumb ass!
@KOBEandCAMBRIA24 Kobe played with scrubs? You mean he played on the team with the highest payroll in the league... Pau Gasol gets more win shares than Kobe does. Kobe relied on his teammates to get through the Finals. Kobe didn't carry that team to win the Finals, not at all.
first off in terms of "NBA all time greatness" or w/e i will admit MJ is more accomplished than Kobe. but many variables factor in to a full career. in terms of BASKETBALL SKILL its not close. Kobe is the most skilled player of all time. he can shoot better than MJ, his footwork, fundamentals, perimeter tough-shot making, hes a better scorer although the averages dont show that. also MJ played against the whitest people ever for his talent level. MJs a better driver, post scorer, defender, and..
If Kobe shot anywhere near %50 from the floor he might be in the same sentence as MJ, but he's not. Yes he's graceful like Mike, talented like Mike, skilled like Mike but there is nobody like Mike. I have great respect for Kobe though, he's in the top 20 of all time for sure.
@NBAGOATS thank you its nice to see someone understands the game Lebron gave cleveland 7 yrs to put a team round him and they did not so he left Lebron wants to go down as one of the greats but also wants a ring while doing that i agree with his decision to go to miami the only thing i think he did wrong was The Decision other than that get off his back Lebron haters he loved cleveland still does he just did not want to pull a Reggie Miller get close to the championship and never hold it up
the the switch on 1991 nba finals circus shot as u call it destroys 300 " kobe better than michael jordan videos" per play when i have my jordan gear the dudes are like KOBE they seem to me to be lost k@nts
not even close to mj. ppg, shot percentage, the list goes on, as much as people want there to be another MJ there never will be. Kobe maybe this generations closest rendition, but in still he's nowhere near the level that Jordan was in his prime nor throughout his career. fun fact: Jordan has never been out scored in a finals game by his teamates or the oposition. that says alot.
How is that a assassination its more of a passing of the Torch. MJ is the best player of all time no one will fight that Kobe is in the top ten if he wins a few more championships he might move to 2nd. No one will replace MJ at the same time no one will replace Kobe Bryant. Overall Kobe can be called the next MJ but hes not let both players shine in there amazing careers and stop the hating and comparing.
@dwyane3wademh he cant be the statistically the 2nd best player of all time? its possible, Kobe's career has been either shown as overrated,underrated,crappy,terrible,the next MJ,etc. i Agree with underrated do you know why? 1 MVP. while the overrated Lebron James has 2 without no finals MVPS,or championships. Truthfully i think Kobe's been the underdog or the hated one in the last decade. If not Statistically then well No he cant but hes compaired to MJ everyone is in a small sense.
@dwyane3wademh wtf is wrong with me? have u never heard of a Opinion? he went to Cleveland to bring them a championship not a heart breaker over and over and over again and Literally Quit in games(Boston Game 6 i think). his statistics are great his overall career in W/L and finals 0-1. once he actually wins 2-3 championships he'll be considered decent.
@LilWillyJ Ooooooh after that comment its pretty obvious you know SHIT about basketball . LeBron James is one of the greatest players to ever touch a basketball ring or no ring. You my friend are a complete idiot . Kobe isn't even better than Bird Russell Magic or Wilt etc ...
@dwyane3wademh Reading from your comment true he can be known as one of the so called "greatest players" to ever touch a basketball just like how Scotty Pippin said Lebron was better then MJ. Did MJ, Magic,Kobe,Dirk,Dwayne,etc ever EVER just quit a game and just acted like a child and straight up diss-respected Cleveland and left for the bandwagon. I don't know about Basketball like i know Football but all i know is when a Player is supposedly "better" then MJ quits games there's something wrong
@LilWillyJ When did I ever say that Lebron is better than MJ ? No one is . And what you want Lebron to do stay in CLE and keep losing ? They put a bunch of scrubs around him and Lebron made them better . He's not there to develop players he was there to win a championship and they didn't put the players around for it . Kobe requested a trade in 2007 from the Lakers cause he couldn't get back to the finals and win . But look they went and got him gasol and good role players
@LilWillyJ What? You act as if Bron is the first to join other allstars in an attempt to win a ring. Pippen did it, Clyde did it, and Barkley did it, Wilt, Baylor and West all joined forces,...Rick Barry joined them the next year and Kobe was looking to jump ship in 2007. Its apart of the game and its about winning. Its not about some sort of misguided pointless loyalty. Lebron haters would prefer to see the guy stay put and go down in flames.
@LilWillyJ Kobe dropped that torch because it was too hot to hold. Besides, be your own person to see if its better than the guy before you. Kobe became another failed copy. More successful than the others,...but still in the end,...its a FAIL.
@NBAGOATS You aint hearing me bro he wont be the next Micheal Jordan he'll be Kobe Bryant no one will take that away from him. Its like the Legend Cycle a legend plays wins championships and becomes a Legend and he is famous for his OWN name not being compared to other greats and this repeats so on and so on. Examples: Shaq, Micheal Jordan, Scotty Pippin, Larry Bird, Rasheed Wallace(lmfao),etc. No one will become the next MJ there becoming them. "Don't be the copy be the Original"
@LilWillyJ Well, you're obviously not looking at the same game with the same players. Noone has copied the style of play and mannerisms that Kobe has. I agree with what you're saying in being your own person. But to deny that the guy is literally copying MJ is denial. The Next MJ by the way means to be bigger than MJ. Not literal. Its figurative speaking. Kobe's not that.
@LilWillyJ I truly can not see the passing of the torch. Kobe has failed to become his own. He said it himself 90% of what he learned cam from MJ alone. Its one thing to idolize a player and model your game after that player, but Kobe off court and at times on court antics/performance keeps him at a distance from being 2nd. He's isn't better than Magic Johnson, so he isn't even the best Laker of all time
@Freshustle Well being honest i think most of the NBA players and All-stars/superstars tried to copy and build of on Micheal Jordan and his glory. I mean lets be honest if i see kobe making these crazy shots and there going in(im a die hard lakers fan) i wanna get up and shoot the ball around and try to imitate him. Micheal's shots have i think in some sense are a ground to build up a players play type off. I mean if its 92-91 and the lakers are down who wants the last shot/ball? Kobe Bryant.
@LilWillyJ I see what you mean in the point you had in which i try an emulate players. But at the same time it goes beyond that. there has been times where kobe even talks like Micheal, acts like him and even behaves like him. Shaves his head, changes to 24, and during the Shaq leaving the Lakers fiasco, was demanding a trade to Chicago.
oh and it kind of doesn't matter if Kobe wants the last shot, because his 36 for 115 shooting the clutch speaks for its self. That's just bad shooting
@LilWillyJ what i hate about Kobe (among an entire essay worth of shit) is that he acts like he wants to be considered the next MJ but copies a lot of MJ's shit! especially the little gestures n stuff he did on the court! wtf is up w/ that? if you wanna be considered greater than MJ, you should come up w/ your own shit that is unique! plus the 1st 3 rings he won were cuz of Shaq!
Stop comparing them both, they are two great players and its not fair for either of them. Easily two of the greatest players of all time, definitely top 5 in my opinion
"Sometimes I feel that he is me." But I can't, so I changed my number to 24 as that's only way I can be closest to him. "I dreamed I move....like Mike."
Well, Kobe isn't as good as MJ but he's pretty darn good. Ya, he is the best player of our generation, people say Kevin Garnett? WTF? What did KG do? Look at boston's team roster: Kevin Garnett Paul Pierce Ray Allen Rajon Rondo Shaquille O' Neal Glen Davis Delonte West Jermaine O' Neal Lakers Roster: Lamar Kobe Pau Artest That's why Boston is GAY when they lose the finals
People have asked 'Will there be another Einstein again?'
Though I feel that Kobe is an extremely exceptional player,I can say that it would be hard(not impossible though) for Kobe to equal Jordan,not because Kobe is not good enough,but because Jordan is simply that exceptional.
Kobe knows he won't be the next Jordan. He has said so a bunch of times recently, so why should we argue about something that Kobe doesn't think is true?
I respect Kobe because he is really a good player. But he isn't a good leader. In Chicago Bulls, 23 leads the ship. In LA Lakers, 24 jumps out of the ship.
Kobe ain't no Jordan. yes! he is a great player, but not surpassing Jordan.
1 thing that separating them. its the heart. u can take Jordan's legs and arms but u can't took out his heart. HE'S WILL TO WIN.
@josh4145 lol, rings come from teams, stats may reflect what you did, but it doesnt say anything about you, if Kobe didn't have shaw he would be going for number #3, he's the only player to this day that reflects a revolutionary player. Kobe is playin several years above his age thanks to how hard he pushes himself, so by lack of health, he's going to have less. Please don't make ignorant comments
And lets not forget 'clutch' kobe has already lost to two teams on the biggest stage name one who beat Jordan on HIS stage. And lets not forget how in the last two finals Kobe played dreadful, again point to one finals series Jordan didnt dominate.
as long. The beginning of this video is a joke. If Jordan did 500 pushups kobe would do 250. Saying Kobe put forth the work or effort Jordan did, i do not fucking think so. People still to this day fear Michael, Kobe's busy relying on everyone else for his championships. And btw shaq did not foul out that often go check the stats dickhead. And without Shaq kobe would be going for title #4 now.
Jordan is Batman. Kobe is Robin. Jordan is 1080p. Kobe is 720p. Jordan is Peyton Manning. Kobe is Phillip Rivers. Jordan is Tiger Woods. Kobe is Phil Mickelson. Jordan is a Mustang. Kobe is a focus. Jordan is the 360. Kobe is the xbox.
Jordan was 10x more competitive then Kobe ever dreamed of being. Black mamba will never be MJ no matter how hard he tries or how hard his fanboys wish it for him. Jordans been gone for over 8 years, his prime years have been gone nearly twice
The assassination?? Or how about the brave man who actually attempted to have a goal so great he wasn't afraid to chase it? Why do people critisize a man who isn't afraid to dream to catch the legendary MIchael Jordan. respect the game.
Despite of what the media portrays Kobe as, he's nowhere near MJ.
Look behind the hype. Except for the 02/03 season (NOT the playoffs!) and the 09 playoffs, Kobe never was the main factor in his own team! It was Shaq and Gasol. Neither was he ever at any point the most efficient player in the league. Yes, he made some great single accomplishments, but he plays longer than MJ and lacks 4 MVPs, 4 finals MVP, 10 consecutive scoring titles, 3 steal titles, 1 DPOTY.
Kobe Bryant is probably my least favorite player to watch in basketball. He constantly takes horrible shots to get himself on the highlight reel and ends up shooting 45% or less on a good day. He's a one dimensional player created by the media and a fraud. Remember how the Heat swept the Lakers this year? Yeah well in their second loss, Kobe decided to shoot around afterwards, not to improve his game, but to text a reporter and have him get the spotlight instead of the heat for beating him.
kobe is the best if his era..michael jordan is the best if his era. can yu really blame kobe for using michael jordan as an example..especiialyt being that they have very simialr characteristics.#yUhating
@swaggaholic8 how can kobe be the best if he can't get past gasol look at the stats not hating on kobe but look the stuff up and dont go by what sports center says
i have never and will never be a kobe Bryant fan but damn to say The Assassination of Michael Jordan by the Coward Kobe Bryant is not cool . Kobe has earn the tittle of the second best player ever to me Michael is the greatest but bill russell is the greatest winner of all time !
I have to note that Shaq is highly arguable as he simply is blessed with his genetics, but when it comes to pure player quaities, he's one of the worst players the NBA has ever seen. He's practically the exact opposite of Bird. Bird was absolute TRASH in athleticism. But his enourmous bball I.Q. made him probably the best allaround player of all time.
@megatroll mines are different bro 10. jerry west 9. karl malone magic 7. bird 6. oscar robinson 5. moses malone 4 . chamberlain 3. Bill russell 2. Kobe Bryant 1 . Michael jordan . Lol how could you not put bill Russell up there i even would put him at 2 . he has the same amount of rings jordan and Byrant put together
Bill Russel was a rebound monster, but average in everything else. Besides rings are meaningless when evaluating a single players qualities. My guess is you're just another delusional fanboy, just as I thought. The fact that you put Bryant at #2 is ridiculous and you know it.
Players like Chamberlain, Bird, Magic etc. all trump him in literally every category except a few PPG, which can be explained since Bryant explicitly goes for score in his quest for glory.
@megatroll You really dont know basketball . Lol you said rings are meaningless when evaluating a single players qualities. Thats is the funniest shit i have ever heard . no basketball player or student of the game says that then you say , then you bad mouth Russell and say he was avg you must smoke crack . Why i would ask a old white man that has never played basket ball his opinion ill never know . Stick to being a couch potato white men cant jump should be your favorite movie
I play basketball for over 16 years now and I follow the NBA for even longer.
I saw generations of players come and go. I witnessed quite a lot, so I daresay I have a bit of knowledge about the sport.
And yes, rings are meaningless indeed. Basketball is a team sport, not a one man effort. Otherwise you'd state that Robert Horry is better than Jordan.
You simply refuse to accept facts over opinions in your Fanboy-ism, so you fall into denial and silly accusations like a child.
@megatroll when your a role player then it doesn't matter but when your the star like Russell was it does stupid he has two thing jordan will never have a ring as a coach and 11 rings as a player dumb ass !
@megatroll Kobe works in the triangle offense, therefore making his assists go down, also, pippen out rebounded and had more assists then jordan did in there championship years, He maybe the greatest, But your just another person that takes individual accomplishments way to far. I mean come on dude. For jordans first 5 or 6 years, He was given the ball and basically told to do whatever he wanted with it. Kobe started at 17 years old on a team that was already loaded,Different team,different era
Pippen had 1 more rebound and 1 more assist avg. than MJ for 2 of the 6 championship years. Don't exaggerate. And you can dig up as many artificial excuses as you want, the truth remains.
@megatroll Actually Pippen had more assist for every championship season, and more rebounds for five of those championship years. And there is no artificial excuses, your just a fan boy who refuses to see the logic, and Im not talking about stats. Like I said Different team, different era. Imagine if shaq was not on that team, then kobe would have alot more scoring titles and individual accomplishments, much like jordan in his early years. Pippen also had more assist and rebounds in the playoffs
Okay, I just looked it up. You're right abut the rebs./asts.
Nevertheless it was 1 each per game. Really significant. ;)
And assuming Bryant would have been without Shaq, he would have done a lot worse since Shaq created plenty of sht opportunities not only for Bryant but the entire team. YOU're the fanboy. Come on... tell us how fantastic Kobitch is.
@megatroll Im not on either kobe or jordans side, I just like to point out things that most jordans fan boys dont point out. But I disagree on shaq creating space for kobe, Kobe has been getting double teamed since 1999. And everytime shaq would foul out, or be pulled out of the game(which was alot of the time) Kobe would come to the rescue and win the game without shaq on the floor. Also the bulls went deep into the playoffs without jordan in 94, something that should be pointed out.
@megatroll Um ok, only fags bring up shit like that, but go on, keep talking that, it does not bother me because I dont think about gay shit like that.
@megatroll@megatroll mines are different bro 10. jerry west 9. karl malone magic 7. bird 6. oscar robinson 5. moses malone 4 . chamberlain 3. Bill russell 2. Kobe Bryant 1 . Michael jordan . Lol how could you not put bill Russell up there i even would put him at 2 . he has the same amount of rings jordan and Byrant put together
Now that Kobe has played the same number of games as Jordan did, take a look at the numbers... Jordan had a 4.0% higher FG percentage, 1,000 more rebounds, 600 more assists, 900 more steals, 300 more blocks, 200 fewer turnovers, 5,000 more points, and 4 more MVP awards than Kobe. And if we want to throw team accomplishments in there, Jordan had one more ring, as well. Advantage: MJ
@NarutofightsHD1 i said your exact comment back to u without the spelling errors. no shit u didnt go to nba.com and neither did i. it was one of my friends facebook status. stop trollin fag
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx I love kobe and mj because they were the players that continually outshone others in their respective generations. However I think it's a bit fairer to compare the same stats when they have the same minutes played in my opinion. But that is quite an interesting comparison now they both played the same number of games :P The 200 fewer turnovers had me the most because of the fact that kobe played less minutes.
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx he also ahd kukoc (the best european ever to play the game) rodman (the best rebounder ever)and Scottie Pippen (one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History) im not saying that kobe is better...im just saying take it down a noch you cant compare them 2.
There's only one jordan & one kobe.. STOP HATING ON KOBE YEAH JORDAN WAS, IS AND ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST OF ALL-TIME, BUT KOBE IS THE GREATEST RIGHT NOW MAYBE WHEN KOBE IS RETIRED THEN SOMONE WILL CARRY THE TORCH
Real jordan fans are all older people, all the new people who use Jordan against Kobe just use it because there haters, they don't even know shit about Jordan.
@LynchByInch IM FROM JOLIET ILL AND LIVE AND DIE BULLS, BEARS, CUBS..AND IM PLENTY OLD ENUFF TO WATCH HIM TAKE TITLES FROM MAGIC, MALONE, DREXLER..ETC...THESE KIDS DONT KNOW!
@LynchByInch IM OG FROM JOLIET ILL AND LIVE AND BREATHE BULLS,BEARS,CUBS...AND IM PLENTY OLD ENUFF TO SEE MIKE TAKE TITLES FROM MAGIC,MALONE,DREXLER..ETC..AND YEAH , THESE KIDS DONT GRASP IT HOMIE..WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO SEE POETRY IN MOTION..LIKE LISTEN TO PAC..LEBRON..PRINCE JAMES..IS LIKE LISTIN TO LIL WAYNE..
@Disposable5 Haters? HAHAHAHAH your an idiot did I ever say anything against Jordan? You made yourself look like a dumbass because I never said anything other then kobe haters who bring up Jordan only use him to make their points stronger. Also when you grow up in a house like mine, you know a little bit about the Man, so don't talk about people like you know them.
@LynchByInch Wow your the idiot, you read my comment in the complete wrong direction. By the way I have five older brothers and were all over 6'2, constructon workers and military men. I know more about the man then you. My comment was not directed at you for being a hater, dumbass
@LynchByInch Thats like saying people don't know shit about the past, I wasn't in World War II but I could tell you all about it. I can even compare it to the war going on right now.
@LynchByInch You made a very blunt generalization that isn't nearly true...but what's your opinion? Do you think Jordan is better or Kobe? If you think Kobe is better, then I understand your argument because you'd be a Kobe fan...but if you think Jordan is better, then why make such a comment? I understand what you mean but it's just not true. I'm 22 and I watched MJ's latest years in his career and I know much about him and with technology I'm able to understand and appreciate what he did.
@WorldOfSnakes My friend I am referring to the children who hate on great NBA players for immature reasons, Jordan is the greatest, BUT it's such a difficult thing to talk about because there so many ways to compare... Jordan had scottie, Jordan had million dollar hands, Jordan played in a league that wasn't as tough as it is now, Jordan was stronger/bigger.... Yet kobe is smaller and does the same kinda things and then some that I don't even think Jordan can do, either way I respect both.
@LynchByInch Fine but I don't see how the league today is tougher than it was before. There's virtually no more contact and the change of rules made it very easier to just drive to the lane and score...defenses have been toned down. Even the NBA rules explicitly say that the rules have changed to allow for more penetration to the hoop. And most players today lack fundamentals, they lack the flair of the previous generations, they lack so many basic basketball fundamentals..
Then explain to me how you think Jordan played in a less difficult era that Kobe does right now... Because if I remember correctly, Jordan faced many of the NBA's Top 50 players of all time and/or current Hall of Famers, when they were at the peak of their careers; Barkley, Olajuwon, Magic, Bird, McHale, English, Isiah, Dantley, Laimbeer, Dumars, Ewing, Nique, Drexler, Gary Payton, Stockton, Malone, Robinson.
Also, I'm fascinated to know exactly WHAT things Kobe does better than Jordan? Apart from his slightly better 3pt fg% during the regular season (which is rather nullified by the fact that Jordan has a BETTER 3pt fg% than Kobe does during the playoffs!), I'm REALLY struggling to find anything. :)
*Correction* Kobe actually DOES have a better playoff 3 point field goal % in comparison to Jordan... 33.5% to 33.2%. A WHOPPING 0.3% difference between someone who is supposedly WAY better from beyond the arc than MJ. ;)
@ChaosCat79 Your funny you go off on a bunch of dumbshit that has no real value towards what I was saying. Also yea and those guys sure had a player like Scottie Pippen as there sidekick lol…. I'm done here no point in this
The only dumbs*** I'm seeing here is you. So let's see, Jordan had Pippen, so that automatically means he had a free pass to greatest that Kobe didn't have? *Ahem* So who exactly was Shaq then? (The LEADER of the Lakers then btw.) And what about the rather expensively assembled teammates Kobe's managed to "lead" to a 2nd round sweep defeat by the Mavs, as two time defending champions? :)
@LynchByInch "Also yea and those guys had a player like Scottie Pippen as there sidekick..." Show time Lakers: Magic - Leader Kareem AC Green Micheal Cooper James Worthy Byron Scott Larry's Celtics: Bird - Leader McHale Dennis Johnson Robert Parish Ainge (Both sides had players who were perennial All Stars and/or have been voted into the Hall of Fame)
@ChaosCat79 You go ahead and bring up the greats who played this game, doesn't mean you take into consideration about those players primes and where they were in there career. Don't be so fucking retarded when did i say having Pippen gave him the free pass? You argue like a arrogant child, and the mavs have had 2 offseasons to prepare, what has Kobe been doing last 2 offseasons? healing from surgeries, he hasn't been able to do what he does best and that's put in the work.
*Hahaha!* Dude the reason I used those players was because, strangely enough, Jordan actually played against most of them DURING their primes! So your statement that Jordan played in an easier era than Kobe's done is a false one I'm afraid.
Why did I mention the show time Lakers and that great Boston side? Well you tell me how many other all star players Jordan had on his team during both three peats, then compare them with those great teams.
@ChaosCat79 Your definition of prime is a joke, to be ignorant towards 2 surgeries is retarded..... Your just a hater.... a typical one too, trying to continue this MJ vs KB like it's a kindergarten argument about who's better and blah blah blah blah blah..... Your pretty lame. No mention of the injuries hahaha maybe cause you didn't want to hear it, but it was mentioned HIGHLY so stfu. Man you haters are no better then a highschool drama queen lol.
"Injuries"? You mean the "broken finger" which was really nothing more than a dislocation and the smallest chip of bone from finger that was neither career threatening or that detrimental to his play? The twisted ankle which was no more than a bad sprain, but which Kobe played up like it was something more serious?
Look, I'll admit his knees are starting to become an issue for him, but then again that's about normal for an NBA player of his age.
That said, it STILL doesn't explain how BAD his overall team play was, especially during Game 4 against Dallas. And his knees were troubling him last year too, yet no one really made much of a big deal out of it in LA when they won that 5th title, and they all hailed Kobe as the guy who "led" then to it. (Shooting just 6 - 24 from the field in Game 7 and getting bailed out by Gasol and Boston's inability to get defensive rebounds, btw)
@ChaosCat79 O god this is funny, your just gonna continue with your bullshit, twisting things up that I never said, especially when I said those were the great players in the NBA. Yes his injuries were nothing that's why he had to have his knees drained, and a dislocation? HAHAHAHAHAHAH Take the hate out of your mouth you remind me of a child.
Did I say I was hating on Kobe? Nope, I and many other people consider him one of the best shooting guards to have played the game and is probably ranked in the top 15 to 20 players of all time. What I DO hate is people trying to unjustifiably inflate his legacy above other greats in the game who have achieved more, both statistically and in terms of honours, than Bryant has done... and that's not even including Jordan.
And hence you've just proven my previous comment... So you TRULY think Kobe is better than Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, Hakeem Olajuwon, and several more players? Oooookay then... Suit yourself. I'll just chuckle to myself and leave it at that. :)
@ChaosCat79 Those are all special players that were special at the things they did, does it mean there game was fundamentally sound in every aspect? Different players man that did different things.
Oh boy... Yes, because Kobe's all around game is more "fundamentally sound in every aspect" than Magic, Bird, Jabbar, Robertson, Gervin, et all? Really?
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RoCxJetson 3 weeks ago
love the video...but you forgot one thing: not one can "kill" Michael Jordan! especially not Kobe Bryant! MJ won his first 3 rings with Pippen and basically a bunch of scrubs (and Horace Grant who was pretty decent)! Kobe won his 1st 3 cuz of Shaq! so the 1st 3 rings are Shaq's not his!
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@RoCxJetson yes but what i meant by that is that Kobe only has 2 finals MVPs...and was the "Pippen" (2nd guy) in the 1st 3 championships; Jordan has 6...also Kobe had much better teammates than Jordan (for the first 3 rings at least)...i don't get why they're even mentioned in the same conversation considering how many more awards and accolades Jordan has than Kobe
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@KOBEandCAMBRIA24
"Kobe is the best ever"
No one who's shot 40% OR LOWER & has been OUTPERFORMED by a teammate in 5 career finals, and has TWICE set the record for the most MISSED shots in a finals, can EVER be that..
"Kobe is the most skilled player of all time"
Then WHERE'S the consistently "most skilled ever" individual RESULTS from him to PROVE it?
U can't be more skilled than the next guy at something when you're consistently fairing WORSE at it than him
KOBEandCAMBRIA24 = dumb kobe homer
blackadam06 3 months ago 3
a Michael Jordan???.... never again!!!....
10araluna23 3 months ago 2
@10araluna23 WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A NEXT JORDAN! WE WANT TO SEE THE NEXT KOBE! WE WANT TO SEE A PLAYER SCORE 82 BUT WITH A BETTER PERFORMANCE, 43 IN A HALF WITH MORE THAN 8 THREE'S, STREAKS OF 35 ,40, AND 50 PT'S LONGER THAN KOBE, A PLAYER WHO 'S GREATEST GAMES MAKES KOBE'S ARCHIVE LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY THE WAY KOBE'S MAKE JORDANS LOOK!ECT! KOBE IS THE GREATEST PLAYER THE NBA HAS EVER SEEN! PERIOD!
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tiger1649 3 months ago
he won with OLD FISHER, ron artest the worst shooter of all time, pau played fairly well in the playoff runs, odom who dissapears some games, bynum who had one leg, and a bunch of role players, who couldnt shoot, couldnt create, and were lead by Kobe against the fuckin celtics. if Kobe played, in his prime, when he scored 81 points and shit, with this Lakers team, they would win untill he became old, 4, 5 in a row. Kobe never played in his prime with a contender. Kobe is the best ever.
KOBEandCAMBRIA24 3 months ago
@KOBEandCAMBRIA24
"Kobe never played in his prime with a contender"
Kobe's had Shaq & Gasol so WTF are U talkin' about dumb ass?!!
Shaq's resume speaks for itself, but B4 Gasol played 1 game with LA, he
* had the EXACT SAME overall avg in MEM as in LA
* was rookie of the year
* led MEM to a 50 win season (and playoffs every year), something kobe couldn't do, despite having CAron Butler & Lamar in '05
* and from 2005-07, led MEM to a 8-3 record vs LA
blackadam06 3 months ago
slightly better in the clutch... MJs team was 20 times better than Kobe's team now (as the "leader") and Kobe doesnt play with another hall of famer like MJ did. and in the finals, Kobe Bean Bryant is triple teamed every important possession because he has NO shooters and NO other playmaker on the floor. unlike MJ who is SINGLE COVERED in 1998, after all hes done, in an attempt to win the game. maybe im crazy but one would think to double MJ in that situation. i mean, Kobe won with SCRUBS man.
KOBEandCAMBRIA24 3 months ago
@KOBEandCAMBRIA24
"MJs team was 20 times better than Kobe's team now"
Kobe's the 1 that played with 8 different guys during the pre title & title seasons, that avg'd in double figures. Kobe's the 1 the started out on a 56 win playoff team with a All Time Top 10 player in Shaq, and 2 other All Stars.
MJ & kobe vs their teammates in career Finals FG%
MJ: 443-911 (49%) > teammates: 865-1990 (45%)
KB: 333-808 (41%) < teammates: 1041-2161 (48%)
If his teams were so much better, explain that dumb ass!
blackadam06 3 months ago 2
@KOBEandCAMBRIA24 Kobe played with scrubs? You mean he played on the team with the highest payroll in the league... Pau Gasol gets more win shares than Kobe does. Kobe relied on his teammates to get through the Finals. Kobe didn't carry that team to win the Finals, not at all.
gtg309v 2 months ago
first off in terms of "NBA all time greatness" or w/e i will admit MJ is more accomplished than Kobe. but many variables factor in to a full career. in terms of BASKETBALL SKILL its not close. Kobe is the most skilled player of all time. he can shoot better than MJ, his footwork, fundamentals, perimeter tough-shot making, hes a better scorer although the averages dont show that. also MJ played against the whitest people ever for his talent level. MJs a better driver, post scorer, defender, and..
KOBEandCAMBRIA24 3 months ago
@KOBEandCAMBRIA24 Kobe is not a better shooter than MJ,according to who your perception? Stats dont lie baby
iriepacificsports 2 months ago
If Kobe shot anywhere near %50 from the floor he might be in the same sentence as MJ, but he's not. Yes he's graceful like Mike, talented like Mike, skilled like Mike but there is nobody like Mike. I have great respect for Kobe though, he's in the top 20 of all time for sure.
guidi2005 3 months ago
kobe is not the next mj fucked!
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tiger1649 6 months ago
@NBAGOATS thank you its nice to see someone understands the game Lebron gave cleveland 7 yrs to put a team round him and they did not so he left Lebron wants to go down as one of the greats but also wants a ring while doing that i agree with his decision to go to miami the only thing i think he did wrong was The Decision other than that get off his back Lebron haters he loved cleveland still does he just did not want to pull a Reggie Miller get close to the championship and never hold it up
LGThomas1 6 months ago
only if he had more mvp
gym2594 6 months ago
Give Kobe his props-- He's great... Just not MICHAEL JORDAN great... Nobody is or ever will be again.
RAV52 6 months ago
i think hes the next Kobe Bryant.
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tiger1649 6 months ago
the the switch on 1991 nba finals circus shot as u call it destroys 300 " kobe better than michael jordan videos" per play when i have my jordan gear the dudes are like KOBE they seem to me to be lost k@nts
fgypsy45 6 months ago
jordan did moves that needed to be done it was an arsenal kobe is just a wanka a showbiz mentally talking like jordan
fgypsy45 6 months ago
not even close to mj. ppg, shot percentage, the list goes on, as much as people want there to be another MJ there never will be. Kobe maybe this generations closest rendition, but in still he's nowhere near the level that Jordan was in his prime nor throughout his career. fun fact: Jordan has never been out scored in a finals game by his teamates or the oposition. that says alot.
Veechie4short 7 months ago
I must cry ;(((
ThePepsiTHunder 7 months ago
why ya'll hating on dirk on a kobe/jordan vid?? lol
funakiexpress 7 months ago
good video but if you watched basketball during the 80s, kobe would be not that goog
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tiger1649 7 months ago
How is that a assassination its more of a passing of the Torch. MJ is the best player of all time no one will fight that Kobe is in the top ten if he wins a few more championships he might move to 2nd. No one will replace MJ at the same time no one will replace Kobe Bryant. Overall Kobe can be called the next MJ but hes not let both players shine in there amazing careers and stop the hating and comparing.
LilWillyJ 7 months ago 16
@LilWillyJ
It's a play off the title of the film the mixed is based on: The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford.
lite4thenite 7 months ago 10
@lite4thenite Ohhh xD my fault man
LilWillyJ 7 months ago
@lite4thenite Nicely done in my book. Kudos!
benharperfan2 5 months ago
@LilWillyJ Kobe will never 2nd all time ...
dwyane3wademh 6 months ago
@dwyane3wademh he cant be the statistically the 2nd best player of all time? its possible, Kobe's career has been either shown as overrated,underrated,crappy,terrible,the next MJ,etc. i Agree with underrated do you know why? 1 MVP. while the overrated Lebron James has 2 without no finals MVPS,or championships. Truthfully i think Kobe's been the underdog or the hated one in the last decade. If not Statistically then well No he cant but hes compaired to MJ everyone is in a small sense.
LilWillyJ 6 months ago
@LilWillyJ Lebron James overrated wtf is wrong with you ?
dwyane3wademh 6 months ago
@dwyane3wademh wtf is wrong with me? have u never heard of a Opinion? he went to Cleveland to bring them a championship not a heart breaker over and over and over again and Literally Quit in games(Boston Game 6 i think). his statistics are great his overall career in W/L and finals 0-1. once he actually wins 2-3 championships he'll be considered decent.
LilWillyJ 6 months ago
@LilWillyJ Ooooooh after that comment its pretty obvious you know SHIT about basketball . LeBron James is one of the greatest players to ever touch a basketball ring or no ring. You my friend are a complete idiot . Kobe isn't even better than Bird Russell Magic or Wilt etc ...
dwyane3wademh 6 months ago
@dwyane3wademh Reading from your comment true he can be known as one of the so called "greatest players" to ever touch a basketball just like how Scotty Pippin said Lebron was better then MJ. Did MJ, Magic,Kobe,Dirk,Dwayne,etc ever EVER just quit a game and just acted like a child and straight up diss-respected Cleveland and left for the bandwagon. I don't know about Basketball like i know Football but all i know is when a Player is supposedly "better" then MJ quits games there's something wrong
LilWillyJ 6 months ago
@LilWillyJ When did I ever say that Lebron is better than MJ ? No one is . And what you want Lebron to do stay in CLE and keep losing ? They put a bunch of scrubs around him and Lebron made them better . He's not there to develop players he was there to win a championship and they didn't put the players around for it . Kobe requested a trade in 2007 from the Lakers cause he couldn't get back to the finals and win . But look they went and got him gasol and good role players
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NBAGOATS 6 months ago
@LilWillyJ What? You act as if Bron is the first to join other allstars in an attempt to win a ring. Pippen did it, Clyde did it, and Barkley did it, Wilt, Baylor and West all joined forces,...Rick Barry joined them the next year and Kobe was looking to jump ship in 2007. Its apart of the game and its about winning. Its not about some sort of misguided pointless loyalty. Lebron haters would prefer to see the guy stay put and go down in flames.
NBAGOATS 6 months ago
@LilWillyJ Kobe dropped that torch because it was too hot to hold. Besides, be your own person to see if its better than the guy before you. Kobe became another failed copy. More successful than the others,...but still in the end,...its a FAIL.
NBAGOATS 6 months ago
@NBAGOATS You aint hearing me bro he wont be the next Micheal Jordan he'll be Kobe Bryant no one will take that away from him. Its like the Legend Cycle a legend plays wins championships and becomes a Legend and he is famous for his OWN name not being compared to other greats and this repeats so on and so on. Examples: Shaq, Micheal Jordan, Scotty Pippin, Larry Bird, Rasheed Wallace(lmfao),etc. No one will become the next MJ there becoming them. "Don't be the copy be the Original"
LilWillyJ 6 months ago
@LilWillyJ Well, you're obviously not looking at the same game with the same players. Noone has copied the style of play and mannerisms that Kobe has. I agree with what you're saying in being your own person. But to deny that the guy is literally copying MJ is denial. The Next MJ by the way means to be bigger than MJ. Not literal. Its figurative speaking. Kobe's not that.
NBAGOATS 6 months ago
@LilWillyJ Um how about No.
Freshustle 4 months ago
@Freshustle "Um how about no." details?
LilWillyJ 4 months ago
@LilWillyJ I truly can not see the passing of the torch. Kobe has failed to become his own. He said it himself 90% of what he learned cam from MJ alone. Its one thing to idolize a player and model your game after that player, but Kobe off court and at times on court antics/performance keeps him at a distance from being 2nd. He's isn't better than Magic Johnson, so he isn't even the best Laker of all time
Freshustle 4 months ago
@Freshustle Well being honest i think most of the NBA players and All-stars/superstars tried to copy and build of on Micheal Jordan and his glory. I mean lets be honest if i see kobe making these crazy shots and there going in(im a die hard lakers fan) i wanna get up and shoot the ball around and try to imitate him. Micheal's shots have i think in some sense are a ground to build up a players play type off. I mean if its 92-91 and the lakers are down who wants the last shot/ball? Kobe Bryant.
LilWillyJ 4 months ago
@LilWillyJ I see what you mean in the point you had in which i try an emulate players. But at the same time it goes beyond that. there has been times where kobe even talks like Micheal, acts like him and even behaves like him. Shaves his head, changes to 24, and during the Shaq leaving the Lakers fiasco, was demanding a trade to Chicago.
oh and it kind of doesn't matter if Kobe wants the last shot, because his 36 for 115 shooting the clutch speaks for its self. That's just bad shooting
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theOnyFUFU 1 month ago
@LilWillyJ what i hate about Kobe (among an entire essay worth of shit) is that he acts like he wants to be considered the next MJ but copies a lot of MJ's shit! especially the little gestures n stuff he did on the court! wtf is up w/ that? if you wanna be considered greater than MJ, you should come up w/ your own shit that is unique! plus the 1st 3 rings he won were cuz of Shaq!
theOnyFUFU 1 month ago
lol...its so true how he tries to be like him every day of his life
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tiger1649 8 months ago
Stop comparing them both, they are two great players and its not fair for either of them. Easily two of the greatest players of all time, definitely top 5 in my opinion
animesolider 8 months ago
Dominique Wilkins kicks both there asses.
Chowderchefu 8 months ago
@Chowderchefu hahaha.. that was a joke right?
Rythem9779 8 months ago
@Rythem9779 Nope.
Chowderchefu 8 months ago
@Chowderchefu
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Dkouts57 7 months ago
Hes not mj,but hes the next best thing
Luigidude64 8 months ago
Without a doubt, I genuinely had more faith in Jordan to win a big game than anyone who ever played in any sport.
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tiger1649 9 months ago
"Sometimes I feel that he is me." But I can't, so I changed my number to 24 as that's only way I can be closest to him. "I dreamed I move....like Mike."
dankaren95 9 months ago
Kobe won't ever come close to even being compared to Michael Jordan. Michael is the greatest basketball player of all time.
patriotjack39 9 months ago
HolidayHelm 9 months ago
People have asked 'Will there be another Einstein again?'
Though I feel that Kobe is an extremely exceptional player,I can say that it would be hard(not impossible though) for Kobe to equal Jordan,not because Kobe is not good enough,but because Jordan is simply that exceptional.
ShareThaFuck 9 months ago
Kobe knows he won't be the next Jordan. He has said so a bunch of times recently, so why should we argue about something that Kobe doesn't think is true?
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I respect Kobe because he is really a good player. But he isn't a good leader. In Chicago Bulls, 23 leads the ship. In LA Lakers, 24 jumps out of the ship.
Kobe ain't no Jordan. yes! he is a great player, but not surpassing Jordan.
1 thing that separating them. its the heart. u can take Jordan's legs and arms but u can't took out his heart. HE'S WILL TO WIN.
with0utify 9 months ago
@josh4145 lol, rings come from teams, stats may reflect what you did, but it doesnt say anything about you, if Kobe didn't have shaw he would be going for number #3, he's the only player to this day that reflects a revolutionary player. Kobe is playin several years above his age thanks to how hard he pushes himself, so by lack of health, he's going to have less. Please don't make ignorant comments
Windego123 9 months ago
And lets not forget 'clutch' kobe has already lost to two teams on the biggest stage name one who beat Jordan on HIS stage. And lets not forget how in the last two finals Kobe played dreadful, again point to one finals series Jordan didnt dominate.
Josh4145 10 months ago
as long. The beginning of this video is a joke. If Jordan did 500 pushups kobe would do 250. Saying Kobe put forth the work or effort Jordan did, i do not fucking think so. People still to this day fear Michael, Kobe's busy relying on everyone else for his championships. And btw shaq did not foul out that often go check the stats dickhead. And without Shaq kobe would be going for title #4 now.
Josh4145 10 months ago
Jordan is Batman. Kobe is Robin. Jordan is 1080p. Kobe is 720p. Jordan is Peyton Manning. Kobe is Phillip Rivers. Jordan is Tiger Woods. Kobe is Phil Mickelson. Jordan is a Mustang. Kobe is a focus. Jordan is the 360. Kobe is the xbox.
Jordan was 10x more competitive then Kobe ever dreamed of being. Black mamba will never be MJ no matter how hard he tries or how hard his fanboys wish it for him. Jordans been gone for over 8 years, his prime years have been gone nearly twice
Josh4145 10 months ago
Kobe is an imitator of Michael Jordan, if Jordan had not existed kobe
Nor, kobedoes not have its own personality is just a copycat of someone
fehmusic 10 months ago
@fehmusic Idiot, jordan admitted cpying other people as well.
Disposable5 10 months ago
he will never be like jordan
artfemus 10 months ago
who is kobe bryant?
14kinetik 10 months ago
The assassination?? Or how about the brave man who actually attempted to have a goal so great he wasn't afraid to chase it? Why do people critisize a man who isn't afraid to dream to catch the legendary MIchael Jordan. respect the game.
xiamwillx 10 months ago
WHO THE HECK MADE THIS VIDEO. THE TITLE IS BLASPHEMY FOOL.
MrReggie31miller 10 months ago
@MrReggie31miller reggie what u doing here u not even in the talks lol
highman58 10 months ago
kobe came out of high school....... the stats are skewed..
ChrisonMusic 11 months ago
Despite of what the media portrays Kobe as, he's nowhere near MJ.
Look behind the hype. Except for the 02/03 season (NOT the playoffs!) and the 09 playoffs, Kobe never was the main factor in his own team! It was Shaq and Gasol. Neither was he ever at any point the most efficient player in the league. Yes, he made some great single accomplishments, but he plays longer than MJ and lacks 4 MVPs, 4 finals MVP, 10 consecutive scoring titles, 3 steal titles, 1 DPOTY.
Most overhyped player ever!
megatroll 11 months ago
Kobe Bryant is probably my least favorite player to watch in basketball. He constantly takes horrible shots to get himself on the highlight reel and ends up shooting 45% or less on a good day. He's a one dimensional player created by the media and a fraud. Remember how the Heat swept the Lakers this year? Yeah well in their second loss, Kobe decided to shoot around afterwards, not to improve his game, but to text a reporter and have him get the spotlight instead of the heat for beating him.
jonnieos 11 months ago
@jonnieos
wade abused him that game
Dkouts57 7 months ago
kobe is the best if his era..michael jordan is the best if his era. can yu really blame kobe for using michael jordan as an example..especiialyt being that they have very simialr characteristics.#yUhating
swaggaholic8 11 months ago
@swaggaholic8 how can kobe be the best if he can't get past gasol look at the stats not hating on kobe but look the stuff up and dont go by what sports center says
RICHKING3600 11 months ago
@RICHKING3600 i clearly stated KOBE'S ERA. this is not kobe's era anymore, he still plays basketball at a high level.//and he is NOT A HAS-BEEN
swaggaholic8 11 months ago
anyone who wants to view the jordan vs kobe debate from a different prespective, check out
"jordan vs kobe - stats dont tell the whole story"
brunolrhl 11 months ago
@brunolrhl .
stats dont tell the whole story, so WHAT TELL? SHOW IT DONT JUST TALK.
THETOYOTAable 11 months ago
i have never and will never be a kobe Bryant fan but damn to say The Assassination of Michael Jordan by the Coward Kobe Bryant is not cool . Kobe has earn the tittle of the second best player ever to me Michael is the greatest but bill russell is the greatest winner of all time !
Rorywalters 11 months ago
@Rorywalters
Kobe is not even in the top5 players of all time.
So how can he be #2 ???
megatroll 11 months ago
@megatroll ok then tell me your top 5 and where do u put kobe and dont put ur emotions into it ,u might have a valid point bro
Rorywalters 10 months ago
@Rorywalters
1.Jordan 2.Chamberlain 3.Bird 4.Magic 5.Abdul-Jabbar 6.Malone 7.Bryant 8.Olajuwon 9.Robertson 10.Shaq
I have to note that Shaq is highly arguable as he simply is blessed with his genetics, but when it comes to pure player quaities, he's one of the worst players the NBA has ever seen. He's practically the exact opposite of Bird. Bird was absolute TRASH in athleticism. But his enourmous bball I.Q. made him probably the best allaround player of all time.
megatroll 10 months ago
@megatroll mines are different bro 10. jerry west 9. karl malone magic 7. bird 6. oscar robinson 5. moses malone 4 . chamberlain 3. Bill russell 2. Kobe Bryant 1 . Michael jordan . Lol how could you not put bill Russell up there i even would put him at 2 . he has the same amount of rings jordan and Byrant put together
Rorywalters 10 months ago
@Rorywalters
Bill Russel was a rebound monster, but average in everything else. Besides rings are meaningless when evaluating a single players qualities. My guess is you're just another delusional fanboy, just as I thought. The fact that you put Bryant at #2 is ridiculous and you know it.
Players like Chamberlain, Bird, Magic etc. all trump him in literally every category except a few PPG, which can be explained since Bryant explicitly goes for score in his quest for glory.
Get real.
megatroll 10 months ago
@megatroll You really dont know basketball . Lol you said rings are meaningless when evaluating a single players qualities. Thats is the funniest shit i have ever heard . no basketball player or student of the game says that then you say , then you bad mouth Russell and say he was avg you must smoke crack . Why i would ask a old white man that has never played basket ball his opinion ill never know . Stick to being a couch potato white men cant jump should be your favorite movie
Rorywalters 10 months ago
@Rorywalters
I play basketball for over 16 years now and I follow the NBA for even longer.
I saw generations of players come and go. I witnessed quite a lot, so I daresay I have a bit of knowledge about the sport.
And yes, rings are meaningless indeed. Basketball is a team sport, not a one man effort. Otherwise you'd state that Robert Horry is better than Jordan.
You simply refuse to accept facts over opinions in your Fanboy-ism, so you fall into denial and silly accusations like a child.
megatroll 10 months ago
@megatroll when your a role player then it doesn't matter but when your the star like Russell was it does stupid he has two thing jordan will never have a ring as a coach and 11 rings as a player dumb ass !
Rorywalters 10 months ago
@megatroll Kobe works in the triangle offense, therefore making his assists go down, also, pippen out rebounded and had more assists then jordan did in there championship years, He maybe the greatest, But your just another person that takes individual accomplishments way to far. I mean come on dude. For jordans first 5 or 6 years, He was given the ball and basically told to do whatever he wanted with it. Kobe started at 17 years old on a team that was already loaded,Different team,different era
Disposable5 10 months ago
@Disposable5
Pippen had 1 more rebound and 1 more assist avg. than MJ for 2 of the 6 championship years. Don't exaggerate. And you can dig up as many artificial excuses as you want, the truth remains.
megatroll 10 months ago
@megatroll Actually Pippen had more assist for every championship season, and more rebounds for five of those championship years. And there is no artificial excuses, your just a fan boy who refuses to see the logic, and Im not talking about stats. Like I said Different team, different era. Imagine if shaq was not on that team, then kobe would have alot more scoring titles and individual accomplishments, much like jordan in his early years. Pippen also had more assist and rebounds in the playoffs
Disposable5 10 months ago
@Disposable5
Okay, I just looked it up. You're right abut the rebs./asts.
Nevertheless it was 1 each per game. Really significant. ;)
And assuming Bryant would have been without Shaq, he would have done a lot worse since Shaq created plenty of sht opportunities not only for Bryant but the entire team. YOU're the fanboy. Come on... tell us how fantastic Kobitch is.
megatroll 10 months ago
@megatroll Im not on either kobe or jordans side, I just like to point out things that most jordans fan boys dont point out. But I disagree on shaq creating space for kobe, Kobe has been getting double teamed since 1999. And everytime shaq would foul out, or be pulled out of the game(which was alot of the time) Kobe would come to the rescue and win the game without shaq on the floor. Also the bulls went deep into the playoffs without jordan in 94, something that should be pointed out.
Disposable5 10 months ago
@Disposable5
Nice.
Do YOU want to "double team" Kobe?
How does Kobe taste?
Is he tender with you?
megatroll 10 months ago
@megatroll Um ok, only fags bring up shit like that, but go on, keep talking that, it does not bother me because I dont think about gay shit like that.
Disposable5 10 months ago
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@megatroll@megatroll mines are different bro 10. jerry west 9. karl malone magic 7. bird 6. oscar robinson 5. moses malone 4 . chamberlain 3. Bill russell 2. Kobe Bryant 1 . Michael jordan . Lol how could you not put bill Russell up there i even would put him at 2 . he has the same amount of rings jordan and Byrant put together
Rorywalters 10 months ago
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Rorywalters 10 months ago
For all you Kobe fans out there,
Now that Kobe has played the same number of games as Jordan did, take a look at the numbers... Jordan had a 4.0% higher FG percentage, 1,000 more rebounds, 600 more assists, 900 more steals, 300 more blocks, 200 fewer turnovers, 5,000 more points, and 4 more MVP awards than Kobe. And if we want to throw team accomplishments in there, Jordan had one more ring, as well. Advantage: MJ
xxxVeniVidiVicixxx 11 months ago 51
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx you forgot, 4 more finals MVPS
starwarsnspiderman30 9 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx and you spent 2 hours on nba.com look the stats up just the wright this comment you should be a damn shame of your self.
NarutofightsHD1 9 months ago
@NarutofightsHD1 and you spent 2 hours on nba.com looking* the stats up just to write* this comment. you should be damn ashamed* of yourself.
You are retarded
xxxVeniVidiVicixxx 8 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx i didn't even go to nba.com fuck face i know you didn't know that with out looking up on something fuck face get blocked
NarutofightsHD1 8 months ago
@NarutofightsHD1 i said your exact comment back to u without the spelling errors. no shit u didnt go to nba.com and neither did i. it was one of my friends facebook status. stop trollin fag
xxxVeniVidiVicixxx 8 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx thats right kobe fans get owned
RCpineapple 9 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx Don't forget, Kobe has only ONE 50-pts or more game in the playoffs. Jordan has 8.
Bullsfan2008DR 9 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx kobe has more comp then mj did so the numbers dont mean shyt
nibal32 8 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx forgetting the eras i personally think today'S era is more difficult michael was good but his era was weaker
trezeguet4ever 8 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx no one cares
JesseJoe09 8 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx I love kobe and mj because they were the players that continually outshone others in their respective generations. However I think it's a bit fairer to compare the same stats when they have the same minutes played in my opinion. But that is quite an interesting comparison now they both played the same number of games :P The 200 fewer turnovers had me the most because of the fact that kobe played less minutes.
jerjerjason 8 months ago
@xxxVeniVidiVicixxx he also ahd kukoc (the best european ever to play the game) rodman (the best rebounder ever)and Scottie Pippen (one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History) im not saying that kobe is better...im just saying take it down a noch you cant compare them 2.
frytsz007 8 months ago
There's only one jordan & one kobe.. STOP HATING ON KOBE YEAH JORDAN WAS, IS AND ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST OF ALL-TIME, BUT KOBE IS THE GREATEST RIGHT NOW MAYBE WHEN KOBE IS RETIRED THEN SOMONE WILL CARRY THE TORCH
SOCAL8183 11 months ago
MJ is of course one of the GOAT but he retired long ago, it was time for someone to take the place as #1.. thats where Kobe stepped in.
xXxKiIluminatixXx 11 months ago
It made me cry :( good video
TheAjpeezy 1 year ago
Real jordan fans are all older people, all the new people who use Jordan against Kobe just use it because there haters, they don't even know shit about Jordan.
LynchByInch 1 year ago 20
@LynchByInch IM FROM JOLIET ILL AND LIVE AND DIE BULLS, BEARS, CUBS..AND IM PLENTY OLD ENUFF TO WATCH HIM TAKE TITLES FROM MAGIC, MALONE, DREXLER..ETC...THESE KIDS DONT KNOW!
MrPaytonw34 11 months ago
@LynchByInch
MrPaytonw34 11 months ago
@LynchByInch IM OG FROM JOLIET ILL AND LIVE AND BREATHE BULLS,BEARS,CUBS...AND IM PLENTY OLD ENUFF TO SEE MIKE TAKE TITLES FROM MAGIC,MALONE,DREXLER..ETC..AND YEAH , THESE KIDS DONT GRASP IT HOMIE..WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO SEE POETRY IN MOTION..LIKE LISTEN TO PAC..LEBRON..PRINCE JAMES..IS LIKE LISTIN TO LIL WAYNE..
MrPaytonw34 11 months ago
@LynchByInch Dude, your only 23, you were barely around for jordans years........ haters love to hate
Disposable5 10 months ago
@Disposable5 Haters? HAHAHAHAH your an idiot did I ever say anything against Jordan? You made yourself look like a dumbass because I never said anything other then kobe haters who bring up Jordan only use him to make their points stronger. Also when you grow up in a house like mine, you know a little bit about the Man, so don't talk about people like you know them.
LynchByInch 10 months ago
@LynchByInch Wow your the idiot, you read my comment in the complete wrong direction. By the way I have five older brothers and were all over 6'2, constructon workers and military men. I know more about the man then you. My comment was not directed at you for being a hater, dumbass
Disposable5 10 months ago
@Disposable5 "haters love to hate" ........... And why you felt to give the description of your family lol I'll never know.
LynchByInch 10 months ago
@LynchByInch Thats like saying people don't know shit about the past, I wasn't in World War II but I could tell you all about it. I can even compare it to the war going on right now.
ed12dawg12 10 months ago
@ed12dawg12 You said that, I didn't. I'm refering to these kids who constantly use the Man as a tool for their own immature ignorant ways.
LynchByInch 10 months ago
@LynchByInch All I'm saying is Jordan was in his Prime when I was in diapers...I still know him to be the best. I am a jordan fan and i'm not old...
ed12dawg12 10 months ago
@ed12dawg12 Good for you I guess, I'm still refering to ignorant tards.
LynchByInch 10 months ago
@LynchByInch thank you sir you have sense you are a real jordan fan
NarutofightsHD1 9 months ago
@LynchByInch You made a very blunt generalization that isn't nearly true...but what's your opinion? Do you think Jordan is better or Kobe? If you think Kobe is better, then I understand your argument because you'd be a Kobe fan...but if you think Jordan is better, then why make such a comment? I understand what you mean but it's just not true. I'm 22 and I watched MJ's latest years in his career and I know much about him and with technology I'm able to understand and appreciate what he did.
WorldOfSnakes 8 months ago
@WorldOfSnakes My friend I am referring to the children who hate on great NBA players for immature reasons, Jordan is the greatest, BUT it's such a difficult thing to talk about because there so many ways to compare... Jordan had scottie, Jordan had million dollar hands, Jordan played in a league that wasn't as tough as it is now, Jordan was stronger/bigger.... Yet kobe is smaller and does the same kinda things and then some that I don't even think Jordan can do, either way I respect both.
LynchByInch 8 months ago
@LynchByInch Fine but I don't see how the league today is tougher than it was before. There's virtually no more contact and the change of rules made it very easier to just drive to the lane and score...defenses have been toned down. Even the NBA rules explicitly say that the rules have changed to allow for more penetration to the hoop. And most players today lack fundamentals, they lack the flair of the previous generations, they lack so many basic basketball fundamentals..
WorldOfSnakes 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
"Jordan played in a league that wasn't as tough as it is now.." That comment right there invalidates your entire argument!
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 Sure sure sure I dont really care what you think bud.
LynchByInch 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
Then explain to me how you think Jordan played in a less difficult era that Kobe does right now... Because if I remember correctly, Jordan faced many of the NBA's Top 50 players of all time and/or current Hall of Famers, when they were at the peak of their careers; Barkley, Olajuwon, Magic, Bird, McHale, English, Isiah, Dantley, Laimbeer, Dumars, Ewing, Nique, Drexler, Gary Payton, Stockton, Malone, Robinson.
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
Also, I'm fascinated to know exactly WHAT things Kobe does better than Jordan? Apart from his slightly better 3pt fg% during the regular season (which is rather nullified by the fact that Jordan has a BETTER 3pt fg% than Kobe does during the playoffs!), I'm REALLY struggling to find anything. :)
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79
*Correction* Kobe actually DOES have a better playoff 3 point field goal % in comparison to Jordan... 33.5% to 33.2%. A WHOPPING 0.3% difference between someone who is supposedly WAY better from beyond the arc than MJ. ;)
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 Your funny you go off on a bunch of dumbshit that has no real value towards what I was saying. Also yea and those guys sure had a player like Scottie Pippen as there sidekick lol…. I'm done here no point in this
LynchByInch 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
The only dumbs*** I'm seeing here is you. So let's see, Jordan had Pippen, so that automatically means he had a free pass to greatest that Kobe didn't have? *Ahem* So who exactly was Shaq then? (The LEADER of the Lakers then btw.) And what about the rather expensively assembled teammates Kobe's managed to "lead" to a 2nd round sweep defeat by the Mavs, as two time defending champions? :)
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 Talking outta your ass most of the time, making me laugh everytime haha laters bitch.
LynchByInch 8 months ago
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 You go ahead and bring up the greats who played this game, doesn't mean you take into consideration about those players primes and where they were in there career. Don't be so fucking retarded when did i say having Pippen gave him the free pass? You argue like a arrogant child, and the mavs have had 2 offseasons to prepare, what has Kobe been doing last 2 offseasons? healing from surgeries, he hasn't been able to do what he does best and that's put in the work.
LynchByInch 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
*Hahaha!* Dude the reason I used those players was because, strangely enough, Jordan actually played against most of them DURING their primes! So your statement that Jordan played in an easier era than Kobe's done is a false one I'm afraid.
Why did I mention the show time Lakers and that great Boston side? Well you tell me how many other all star players Jordan had on his team during both three peats, then compare them with those great teams.
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 Your definition of prime is a joke, to be ignorant towards 2 surgeries is retarded..... Your just a hater.... a typical one too, trying to continue this MJ vs KB like it's a kindergarten argument about who's better and blah blah blah blah blah..... Your pretty lame. No mention of the injuries hahaha maybe cause you didn't want to hear it, but it was mentioned HIGHLY so stfu. Man you haters are no better then a highschool drama queen lol.
LynchByInch 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
"Injuries"? You mean the "broken finger" which was really nothing more than a dislocation and the smallest chip of bone from finger that was neither career threatening or that detrimental to his play? The twisted ankle which was no more than a bad sprain, but which Kobe played up like it was something more serious?
Look, I'll admit his knees are starting to become an issue for him, but then again that's about normal for an NBA player of his age.
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
That said, it STILL doesn't explain how BAD his overall team play was, especially during Game 4 against Dallas. And his knees were troubling him last year too, yet no one really made much of a big deal out of it in LA when they won that 5th title, and they all hailed Kobe as the guy who "led" then to it. (Shooting just 6 - 24 from the field in Game 7 and getting bailed out by Gasol and Boston's inability to get defensive rebounds, btw)
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 O god this is funny, your just gonna continue with your bullshit, twisting things up that I never said, especially when I said those were the great players in the NBA. Yes his injuries were nothing that's why he had to have his knees drained, and a dislocation? HAHAHAHAHAHAH Take the hate out of your mouth you remind me of a child.
LynchByInch 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
Did I say I was hating on Kobe? Nope, I and many other people consider him one of the best shooting guards to have played the game and is probably ranked in the top 15 to 20 players of all time. What I DO hate is people trying to unjustifiably inflate his legacy above other greats in the game who have achieved more, both statistically and in terms of honours, than Bryant has done... and that's not even including Jordan.
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 1. M.J, 2. K.B that's the way it is, BUT to bicker and argue about Versus is childish, we should be appreciating this type of players.
LynchByInch 8 months ago
@LynchByInch
And hence you've just proven my previous comment... So you TRULY think Kobe is better than Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, Hakeem Olajuwon, and several more players? Oooookay then... Suit yourself. I'll just chuckle to myself and leave it at that. :)
ChaosCat79 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 @LynchByInch Haha...the Kobe defender is getting OWNED!
10Modo 8 months ago
@ChaosCat79 Those are all special players that were special at the things they did, does it mean there game was fundamentally sound in every aspect? Different players man that did different things.
LynchByInch 7 months ago
@LynchByInch
Oh boy... Yes, because Kobe's all around game is more "fundamentally sound in every aspect" than Magic, Bird, Jabbar, Robertson, Gervin, et all? Really?
ChaosCat79 7 months ago