LCROSS Post-Impact News Conference

[samuelsixvids]

ET phone home soon!

[gazbom0]

They just blew some shit up they didnt want the chinese to see, sneaky nasa fucks!

[ranger9luna65]

every employee of nasa and jpl should be forced to take a lie detector test and a dna test to see if they are alien hybrids.(nordics from lyra) .implanted alien abductees and members of secret societies like knights templars of the peacock angel of pelaidians!

[ranger9luna65]

the ancient martian cydonia civilization and the earthling dna is nearly identical and the bloodlines are guarded by the masonic knights templars that covertly infest nasa and jpl !...holding secret rituals to their secret god osiris! the truth is out there!

[ranger9luna65]

the ancient space ark moon-luna is made of titanium! and powered by huge thorium reactors buried deep with the deathstar space dreadnougt structures that ancient astronauts sent to seed a yellow dwarf star named sol ( our sun ) and sol-3 !...and sol-4...

[ranger9luna65]

minor typo...you mean space ark!...yes!...read the book :who buildt the moon! ancient astronauts came in hibernation pods that are in the ruins on moon luna and mars!...we are from ancient martian dna!

[hoaglandsarmy1]

saturns moon iapetus also looks like an ancient space arc death star that ancient astronauts manufactured!...more that nasa jpl covers up daily!

[hoaglandsarmy1]

the human evolution theory is dead wrong! (space-1999 senario is far closer to covered-up history) cromagnon homosapiens came out of moonbases to settle earth! (we came in a space arc luna from another star system!)

[hoaglandsarmy1]

noahs arc myth story is really about the ancient moon comming to bring the human race into earth orbit...the moon rings like a huge seismic bell when you crash rockets into it!...their are ancient ruins on moonluna and mars!

[hoaglandsarmy1]

well they found sodium on the moon!...this means the formation model of the ancient moon as torn off from earth from an ancient collision with another planet is dead wrong!..(sodium would have burned off)...sodium is huge clue to the moon as a hollow death star sized space arc!/milwaukee

[sirnicholson]

last thing."i" think this is the most stupid thing"i" have seen nasa do.hopefully "i"dont see anymore of this in the future.

[sirnicholson]

"nasa,smart people doing dumb things"those words are from a skateboarder.drama

[justsayupyours]

Can anyone tell me why there are so many "stars" at 6 hours from impact taken from the Vatican telescope? And why are they moving in such a fashion (not straight). 27:37

Also the two discs coming out of the crater filmed from Hawaii, why are there two discs when there was only one shuttle? Just curious.

[moneyman10k]

there are many bright spots in space.

they are moving straight.

there is no shuttle on the moon.

lcross is two parts.

[justsayupyours]

Thank you moneyman, but that doesn't explain anything. Some of those "bright spots" at 27:37 are veering off at a 90 degree angle, so they aren't moving straight (are we looking at the same film?). Please explain why (and thank you for not insulting my intelligence by holding onto the "stars" mantra, and please don't tell me that all space debris is circular and produces it's own light).

[justsayupyours]

Also both parts of lcross did not impact into the same crater, so please explain why two discs are going into one crater.

[moneyman10k]

what time code are you looking at?  both parts of lcross impacted close enough to each other that they wouldn't look very far apart from earth

[justsayupyours]

24:34

Also the SpeX slit is used to track circular objects which are moving. What do you make of the circular object you tracked with it at 24:38?

[justsayupyours]

Sorry that SpeX slit is in frame 23:26. The live footage was better because you can actually see the circular object moving away from the moon. So what was it?

[moneyman10k]

I don't see anything veering off. the telescope is tracking the bright lcross dot while it moves past the background of other bright dots (stars etc)

[justsayupyours]

Of course you don't because nasa pays you to be blind. Good job, btw. Look at 27:37 again and keep your eye on some of those lights, not all of them are moving in a straight line, some of them veer off at a 90 degree angle. Are you saying that my eyes are deceiving me, or is it just you? Oh well, people can decide for themselves. Who knew there were so many "stars" between the earth and the moon, LOL.

[moneyman10k]

man I looked at all your time codes and don't see any of this. There is nothing veering off at 90s degrees, there is nothing moving away from the moon, there are no two dots at the moon, and there are no "stars" between the earth and the moon. I think you're misinterpreting some things and you're not seeing what you think you're seeing..

[justsayupyours]

So that's your official line, deny, deny, deny? Come on, what were you tracking with the SpeX slit? That info I posted about it came directly from your website. You simply cannot hide the fact you used it to track a circular object which is moving. But I'm sure you'll try. So have at it.

[moneyman10k]

I dont even know what SpeX is, you are crazy and should be locked up

[justsayupyours]

At least I'm not a tard like you. The Spe X slit is in frame 23:26, so quit denying it. Can you please bring in the 20kmoneyman to answer, apparently they're not paying you enough for the gibberish you're posting.

[justsayupyours]

The TRUTH should come easy.  Lies on the other hand, may take a few days to come up with.

[cocon57]

we have to wait years for another news lcross confrence we know now epic fail just let them rest a lil more to figure it out!

[Fatblokeaoke]

Hey, what hapened to the 10 minute upload limit?

[gman0productions]

That limit was eliminated quite a while ago, over a year. The policy changed to if its below the 2 gig limit, it will be allowed on YouTUbe

[anddihier]

LEAVE THE MOON ALONE!!!!

[AcrossTheRiverStix]

chill people...the moon probably gets hit by as many meteorites/meteors as the earth does. The moon's not going anywhere unless we purposely send nukes to it--THEN it will affect us.

[howdybillybob]

we dont generally get hit by anything, they get sucked up by our atmosphere.

the moon on the other hand does get hit by some pretty massive objects weekly, very violent, and very dangerous. FAR more dangerous than the LCROSS mission.

people, you have nothing to worry about. its not going to cause gravitational disruptions and cause countries to flood and ruin anything on earth, or on the moon for htat matter.

[moneyman10k]

the moon gets hit a lot more than earth. it has no atmosphere to stop hits.

[Maslacak1985]

that projectile make hole 4 meters deep and 20 m wide, that is 10x smaller and weaker then asteroids that fall on moon weakly, so dont worry, they will not cut moon in half...

[MOSYABASYA]

lol at 0:41:07

[777equals666]

watch?v=iZ3wh2cjekE

NASA does not want you to see this because they want to do future rocket experiments against the Moon by keeping us all dumb and docile...

[sirnicholson]

this shit makes me mad.lets hear the low cost of this and the high cost of treatment at the childrens cancer centers

[moneyman10k]

this cost 1/10000th the budget. where do you think the other 1s went? not to cancer either. do your corn subsidies make you mad too?

[sirnicholson]

you mean is it right to pay farmers not to grow corn?absolutlly not.although it makes more sence.

[moneyman10k]

no that is not what subsidize means

[sirnicholson]

lets hear your version.

[juananteojos]

With all the HD and High Quality video technology why all those videos or images from NASA look so low quality?

It's that expensive having a HD camera?

[moneyman10k]

the footage is not low quality. have you ever taken a picture of cabaeus before? you could try but it wouldnt work. you have to be an expert just to get what you see here. your ignorance about the world is why you think the footage should look better.

[KungFatty]

that cuts deep

[fantagenius]

I love Mike Wargo's tie... I WANT IT!

[brillwills]

yeah all those poor animals they just blew up ,, when will these imperialist americans stop

[Macmula]

Jesus christ all of these retarded comments about destroying the moon are making my hangover much worse....

[eduhbul54]

what are these idiots doing are they gonna destroy the moon just to look for water,when in fact they already know that there is water vapor there in moon long ago.They are just using these pretensions for other purposes & that they ought to tell the truth about it.Shades of the Apollo program they didnt tell what they actually seen over there not even those poor austronaut they were not allowed to talk anything that were not censored.Please stop these wanton destruction....

[Rico9608248386790]

these "idiots" are not going to DESTROY the moon, the moon receives much greater impacts every week

[kreamgurl]

Ok, Ladies & Gentlemen if they say they seen it blow up that means they have the footage of it exploding it is recording, while showing it live.Yet, the public does Not have this footage that is supposed to show us and confirm to us that it did explode. If they want to get all scientific:#1 If there is No Proof and if we didn't see it then it is not true.You should not believe word of mouth because in Science if you cannot prove it visually,mathematically,or able to be repeated then it's NotTrue

[LeetCanadianBoy]

Sounds like the Bible.

[MajNorberg]

kreamgurl : wait for it...I mean they did have proof of the Earth circling the sun....:)

[datrusnipsta]

The Fat guy sounds just like Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[sankoboy]

So was there water on the moon?

[linuxdude11]

we can go to mars but we cant make a cool microphone

[MajNorberg]

...but sermons looooooove microphones....::)

[gezzzzz911]

if you can't make the top of mount everest or the marinas trench habitable, why would you go live on the moon?

[88Thyra]

speaking of water , let us ,

COLONIZE EARTH'S OCEANS !!!!!!!!

[ShadowofCatron]

Keep it simple, stupid

[23Prospero37]

Nasa's total budget is insignificant compared to the department of defense and the trillions wasted in Iraq. Scientific exploration helps fuels man's constant curiosity and in some way's give people jope for the future

[finnobrit1]

Even if you want NASA to carry on with missions like this, you can't possibly think videos like the LCROSS impact are going to help with that.

Even if the mission is a success scientifically, the way it's been presented to the public is a failure.

If this mission is about possible bases on the moon, include some renders of possible bases every time you're talking about the mission. Don't just show a slow zoom on a grainy black and white photo with technogibberish in the background.

[graeme3178]

Public affairs officer! Lol.

The tool can't even read of a scrypt.

[a4ol]

HAHAHHA +1

[asdasdasdasdasdas98]

where is the video of the impact!

[untrueman]

Its nothing special

[TW4E]

something to hide? lol

[Kawafan12MX]

lol the first guy is nervous as hell

[TalmaPai]

german technology and intelligence should not have given to usa in the past - they cant handle it right. - dont give a pisto to a child.

[logg0n]

"squiggly lines" haha

[goblin072]

This was a major NASA media DUD. Embarrassed for the NASA guys. Hype it up for joe public and then miss the money shot.

Someone is getting his/her butt chewed out behind the scenes.

[fjcivdawg]

What is really discusting here is that we have children starving to death on this planet! And its sad, because I bet you when all is said and done, Its really just useless information Nasa gets from this. And it just confirms to any one thats listening that we as human beings are just dirt....dirt....mud

[fjcivdawg]

It parallels actc like killing Indians and slaves to get ahead of what I dont know

[fjcivdawg]

Useless information.....!....!.......!­

[D26kill]

true. humans can be wierd creatures,but! that doesnt mean we shouldn't this like this. the things we learn here can be used for all mankind. btw i think that the future of mankind lies in space and not here on earth.

[fjcivdawg]

do you know how dangerious space is!? We havent even figured out how to get past the first fundemntal issues to even think we should go into space. Its not sustainable atmosphere perioud. We cant even go into the accounting problem....cause there is no money. We are not even discussing how to go into space without cost, because thats what it will take.

Please.....tell me if I have made a mistake

[SVBarnard]

Dont be stupid!!!! There near earth asteroids and asteroids in the asteroid belt that are made of pure valuable metals!!!! I am talking trillions and trillions worth of metals in space!!!! Material that is just waiting for us humans to come and mine!!! Also if humanity wants to survive for billions of years we have to expand out into space!!!! Besides I would love to go into space someday myself. I would love to see the moon and the rest of the solar system!!!!

[fjcivdawg]

What....do you watch Alien to much, you ass........the only reason nasa is trying to get off this planet is because it doesnt want to deal with it any more. Get the Big Picture dude......lol......yea were gunna haul in all thoes dimonds and minerals to do what cause more co2 emmissions.....right we have the space avalible in our own air for that......dick weed

[justsayupyours]

Holy crap, this is your $20k moneyman. Good luck with that.

[bshaun2]

@fjcivdawg Invest in a spell check program before someone has a stroke trying to read your nonsense.

[fjcivdawg]

and what is it your doing?......this was the only comment you could come up with. Talk about nonsense, look within and then take one of thoes shotguns you like so much and use it on yourself.......sounds fine to me!

[Justinpfx]

"... and eventual expansion into the solar system"

Dude, seriously?

[okturus]

I can't find work, don't have health insurance, and whitey's on the moon...

[monadbornslippy]

these are good stories...now tell us what were you REALLY doing there!

[1PercentRDA]

"think if iran was doing this"

I'm sure Iran could join the International space research collaboration if they first got their heads out of their asses. This is not about "my rocket is bigger than yours"

[YukonTrooper]

NASA supposedly hires only the best, but that PR guy did worse than most high-school interns.

[1PercentRDA]

it's not like they have 10 gigabit fiber optics links to space.

[gremlinn7]

Yeah - I think they mentioned on the live feed that they were limited to 1 Mb/s bandwidth, and they needed to reduce the fps of the visual camera video nearing the impact to prioritize transmission of other data (e.g. spectroscopic data).

[Antarayan]

they were limited to 1mhz freq,nothing about bandwidth

[pianplay]

You are one weird person.

[ranger9luna65]

we love nasa and jpl so much we want to instantly triple check your homework and math regarding all moon and mars missions!

[ranger9luna65]

ok...nasa boys need more time to finish their homework on this...(we were expecting ranger-9 kamikazi camera footage like march 1965! see footagevault on youtube) lcross has 5 cameras!...

[PeterH2006]

Hey NASA. How about organising a news conference when you have something to show us. I'm thinking they got NOTHING and they are in damage control.

[globenavigator]

Meteorites with much power impacts every minutes the Moon. Get lost.

[britoca]

dude, it's not illegal, it's not the first projectile shot at a celestial body to analyze the ejecta. And yes, Iran can do it as well.

[VitorSartor]

credo bicho que video granda

1:10:00

[theharper1]

Great work NASA! Interesting that the impact was near Clavius. As I recall, Clavius was the site for the moon base in 2001 A Space Odyssey. I presume this means that the possibility of polar ice has been considered for a long time?

[jwcornish]

Cabeus is about 800 km from Clavius

[theharper1]

OK, visually close not geographically. :)

[moneyman10k]

either you guys werent taught to read between the lines in school, or you have ADD and didn't watch the video, because tony sounds pretty convinced he's seen important results

55:20

[finnobrit1]

Important to who? If you don't put experiments in context they are meaningless, and no one is putting these experiments in context for the public.

NASA's PR on this was basically "we're going to fire a rocket at the moon, it'll make a massive debris explosion that will stretch out into space" and we didn't really see any of that in the coverage. Even if it happened, we didn't see it, so why did NASA tell us we would?

[moneyman10k]

NASA said we would see stuff because they thought we would see stuff... how hard is that to understand?

nobody has crashed a centaur into cabeus before. we didnt get everything right, big fucking surprise? do you think humans are gods? dont answer that

[finnobrit1]

If they didn't know whether we would see stuff, why did they tell us we would? Why were news channels interrupting programmes to cut to this impact coverage live?

If there was doubt about whether we would see ANYTHING, they shouldn't have hyped this up so much. Managing expectations is a basic principle of PR.

It would have been much cleverer to hype up what this could lead to (i.e. a lunar colony), with the actual impact downplayed because it was so unclear what we would physically see.

[moneyman10k]

lol why did news channels do things? ask the news channels. they're the ones who got the whole story wrong.

the brightest minds in the field thought there would be more flash and dust. what more do you want?

[ACTopher315]

Actually, Lunar Ice was first suggested by professors at Caltech 1964, water was found in the rocks brought back from the Apollo missions in 1969-74, and the Clementine probe in 1994 produced evidence that water was most likely on the moon. The Indians only got involved last year with the Chandrayaan-1 which needed NASA's M3 to discover the water.

[frankypbt]

poor moon

[ananiasacts]

I wonder what the cost per byte of data works out to.

[MDMstudio]

Cost per byte is null actually, assuming they own all components involved.

[ananiasacts]

If the mission cost $100 million, and generated 100 meg of data than it would cost $1/byte. If they got 100 gig than it would be $1/kb. That's what I meant. A number you can get for any mission.

[MDMstudio]

Ah, I see. Arguably the data can't be linked with bytes, or money because it is on the informational level. Also the general idea of comparing money per bytes doesn't quite work, as the information still has to be interpreted on a humanistic level (which means that each byte has a dynamic allocation of usefulness to money spent ratio depending on who is reviewing it and what not).

[finnobrit1]

Money works on a humanistic level too: a dollar spent on space research is a dollar less spent on medical research, or a dollar less spent on education or environmental projects or any number of public services.

[TheDVDGamer]

if you think that space research has nothing to do with enviormental research then your an idiot

[finnobrit1]

What does water on the moon have to do with the environment on earth?

At best water on the moon might allow a moonbase to be supplied with water, but that's not going to help build a sustainable future on earth.

[TheDVDGamer]

there is one simple answer to any enviormental question,,,,stop having kids,,,,anything else is just somebody tying to sell you something

[MDMstudio]

Thats true on a certain level, however not on the data level of the research that involves humanistic analysis at this time.

[finnobrit1]

The bottom line is that the money which funds space agencies belongs to the general public, so the onus is on space agencies to demonstrate to the general public why the money is needed.

They are not doing so with baffling things like the LCROSS impact video, and if they lose funding they only have themselves to blame.

Medical research data saves people's lives, so its value is obvious on every level. Space research data isn't so obviously valuable.

[buerm009]

Let's see some video of the actual impact for gods sake.

[argophontes]

It's a research experiment, not a a fireworks show...

[AviatorBJP]

True point, but nasa really pushed the idea that it WAS a fireworks show in the media. I know my expectations of the video were much higher that what was delivered.

[britoca]

well, we all hoped for a nice impact, including them, but it didn't happen. Now we try to understand why and keep going, so is science. You learn from the expected, but more so, from the unexpected.

[AviatorBJP]

I understand. I wasn't meaning the glamour of the impact. I was dissapointed about there not being real time, color, high definition video. All I have seen is a video that looks like snapshots of an existing B/W photo of the moon and it zooms in every 3 seconds. Please let me know if there was any other footage taken. I heard rumors they had hubble pointed at it.

[britoca]

well, as grey as the moon is, those might well be color pictures. :)

As far as I know, that is all the NASA probe visual "footage" there is. If only JAXA had queued up its Hayabusa probe, then yes, we'd have gotten true HD footage. As far as I'm aware, that didn't happen.

The HST was also pointed at the crater, but they just released the analysis this afternoon and nothing was detected. Bummer, we all wanted a nice spray of debris, but luck decided otherwise.

[britoca]

Kaguya, not Hayabusa.

[finnobrit1]

It's a research experiment that costs a massive amount of money, and NASA's PR department is failing to justify that cost to the taxpayers who foot the bill.

Even if this mission does everything it should scientifically, it has been a total disaster in terms of justifying NASA's continued budget to a public that is terrified of josing its jobs.

[redkb]

Congrats to all those involved!

[davycrocket19]

I HOPE THE RESULTS ARE POSITIVE