I love this band, I have no words to describe how much I like. Scott Waters is a nice guy, I hope to one day have the honor of seeing this great band play here in Brazil!
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viking: fair enough. We all get more brave and crass in discussion threads.
And it's certainly par for course that an American Christian would get confused and suckered by right wing propaganda and start blurring the two...in spite of Acts 2, warnings against love of money, etc...the litany of teachings in Christianity that fall squarely in the "Liberal" camp.
Believe me, I get that *I'm* the odd man out within American Evangelical Christendom (LOL).
viking: huh? you called him a wanker, I agreed and said why, then you said you were joking, then I accepted that and talked some more about the context of what he was barking about, over four years ago. Politics, man, politics.
You must have him confused with someone because rarely do I hear ult talking about politics in person or on the forums and I know him very well. Ultimatum rules!
thefadeaway: it was back in 2004, so it's been almost five years. It was the Once Dead Promoters website, back when they were fixing to do their big concert. Scott wasn't the only one sounding off, but he was definitely more... "surly" (LOL).
All good, it's only politics. And again, I know I'm the exception to the Evangelical demographic, not the rule.
vikingrich: what part confuses you? The response that someone "thumbed down" 5 times?
I'm talking about Scott ripping into me into a Vengeance Rising discussion thread in 2004 when I said I was voting for Kerry. And how someone calling themselves a follower of Jesus would find WAY MORE Liberal talk in the Bible than Conservative.
toddpope: I'VE gotten over it. But it did leave me curious as to whether or not Scott has gotten over the level of slavish devotion for Saint "W" he had back then; if he grew up (GASP) after the debacle of the second term. That's all.
Meh, no reason I should expect him to outgrow that mentality. Really I'm the odd man out, politically, in such a group. Guess I drew different conclusions when X-ian metal blew onto the scene. Like the established Church folks tied culture to faith, ALL OVER.
viking: right now you're the one who needs to outgrow being upset at something I said 9 months ago. Have you since figured out what I was even originally talking about? Looking at the discussion thread you seemed to be filled with confusion.
hi bro, it's me, Josue again. the link you sent me in the last e-mail doesn't work, I cannot see your myspace page, but I've found this video and It's a great band, also there's a canadian and an hungarian band with the same name, that's why it's difficult to find info on internet about your band, God bless you all and Long Live Metal!
Ultimatum rules asswipe! Let's see you sing better? He does pretty good considering it is live. Go buy an Ultimatum cd and listen for yourself. If you like Exodus you will like this band. Don't yap your trap unless you can do better. I write my own music and lyrics, so I can talk... ROCK ON!
Ultimatum are not a fuckin' death metal band or some shitty mallcore crap! They are a fuckin' thrash metal band! Why would you expect Ultimatum to growl!
got to support the local bro's, Ultimatum you are the best Albuquerque has for real metal bands. You guys should go somplace where theres a better scene. I thought about trying out for guitarist when you were looking cause my style would have fit real well, but i didnt because i have, well a different look on things.\m/
Yeah, Scott Waters is the Man (although I don´t agree with some of his views)! I really like his NO LIFE ´TIL Metal-page, this guy is fuckin´ METAL!!!
Man, I am so glad to see this video on here!!! I am the dude who filmed this. I think the video turned out pretty darn good! Let me tell you, these guys are intense on stage, and are truly awesome friends!!! I can't wait til the next show!! If you don't have thier recently released limited edition EP "...til the End", you need to get it!
A M A Z I N G ! Discovered this video searching for Overkill! Is this song representative of wha this band sounds like? If so I'll need to search out some more.
It's not harmonizing. There's no harmony here at all. It's gang vocals, like on Vengeance Rising's song "Tion". Ultimatum have a lot of heart but without the guitar solos they would be rather ordinary. Scott is a great guy but I'm afraid I just don't dig his vocals.
Please, don't get me wrong... I do like Ultimatum and their ministry is awesome, but musically it is the strong guitar work of Robert Gutierrez that carries this band. I feel that they'd be that much greater if Scott sang with a melody akin to the Dio style sound that he himself is a huge fan of. I've heard him actually SING before and it would just freshen it up heaps. He has true talent that just seems hidden because he doesn't use it.
We played right before these guys at the show. You can hear us up front, and sometimes see us banging our heads in the front. It was downright neato.
jkthewonderguy 5 months ago
I love this band, I have no words to describe how much I like. Scott Waters is a nice guy, I hope to one day have the honor of seeing this great band play here in Brazil!
Doomaecium 5 months ago
Neck Snaping,Fist Pumping,Head Banging HEART OF METAL!!!!!!!!
ezeredimir777 1 year ago
Upset? hhahaha
vikingrich 2 years ago
Heart of metal ultimatum yeah I like that song
cannibalpaolo 2 years ago
Scott Waters is a wanker.
vikingrich 2 years ago
LOL, he talked a lot of pissing contest talk at me in 2004 when I (gasp) opposed voting for George Bush and said so in a Christian metal forum.
I've long wondered if he ever outgrew that silliness...especially now.
mowriter 2 years ago
I was actually just kidding. Scott is a very cool guy, imo, and a friend of mine.
vikingrich 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
viking: fair enough. We all get more brave and crass in discussion threads.
And it's certainly par for course that an American Christian would get confused and suckered by right wing propaganda and start blurring the two...in spite of Acts 2, warnings against love of money, etc...the litany of teachings in Christianity that fall squarely in the "Liberal" camp.
Believe me, I get that *I'm* the odd man out within American Evangelical Christendom (LOL).
mowriter 2 years ago
I have no idea what you're talking about.
vikingrich 2 years ago
viking: huh? you called him a wanker, I agreed and said why, then you said you were joking, then I accepted that and talked some more about the context of what he was barking about, over four years ago. Politics, man, politics.
mowriter 2 years ago
You must have him confused with someone because rarely do I hear ult talking about politics in person or on the forums and I know him very well. Ultimatum rules!
thefadeaway101 2 years ago
thefadeaway: it was back in 2004, so it's been almost five years. It was the Once Dead Promoters website, back when they were fixing to do their big concert. Scott wasn't the only one sounding off, but he was definitely more... "surly" (LOL).
All good, it's only politics. And again, I know I'm the exception to the Evangelical demographic, not the rule.
mowriter 2 years ago
I still have no idea what you're talking about.
vikingrich 2 years ago
vikingrich: what part confuses you? The response that someone "thumbed down" 5 times?
I'm talking about Scott ripping into me into a Vengeance Rising discussion thread in 2004 when I said I was voting for Kerry. And how someone calling themselves a follower of Jesus would find WAY MORE Liberal talk in the Bible than Conservative.
mowriter 2 years ago
since that was 5 years ago, it seems illogical that anyone would hold onto something like that for so long without getting over it by now.
toddpope 2 years ago
toddpope: I'VE gotten over it. But it did leave me curious as to whether or not Scott has gotten over the level of slavish devotion for Saint "W" he had back then; if he grew up (GASP) after the debacle of the second term. That's all.
Meh, no reason I should expect him to outgrow that mentality. Really I'm the odd man out, politically, in such a group. Guess I drew different conclusions when X-ian metal blew onto the scene. Like the established Church folks tied culture to faith, ALL OVER.
mowriter 2 years ago
Sounds like you're the one who didn't outgrow it.
vikingrich 2 years ago
viking: right now you're the one who needs to outgrow being upset at something I said 9 months ago. Have you since figured out what I was even originally talking about? Looking at the discussion thread you seemed to be filled with confusion.
mowriter 2 years ago
yes! This song rocks!!
StryperFanInNM 3 years ago 2
Ultimatum rules!
Schbopo 3 years ago 2
This is the REAL Ultimatum!!!
thefadeaway101 3 years ago
Vocals are a bit rough, he's trying hard to copy the vocalist from Exodus and Overkill
I've heard their albums, not to offend but almost all of the songs are repetitive and makes you wanna skip or stop the cd player as you go along
TheBlackTurd 3 years ago
hi bro, it's me, Josue again. the link you sent me in the last e-mail doesn't work, I cannot see your myspace page, but I've found this video and It's a great band, also there's a canadian and an hungarian band with the same name, that's why it's difficult to find info on internet about your band, God bless you all and Long Live Metal!
irongoxi 3 years ago
lol awesome great tuning
Blesses from holland
MetalenTon 3 years ago 2
Great song! Great band!
thefadeaway101 3 years ago
Ultimatum is the only christian metal band i actually like. Scotts a fucking awesome dude.
HEART OF METAL!
MayhemDead91 3 years ago 2
try believer theyre prety heavy :P
gameboy100894 3 years ago
they are not bad they could never compete with overkill or exodus
tournication 3 years ago
They're not trying to compete with anybody. They just have a great love for metal.
DallasBlack1 3 years ago
Scott Waters is a very cool person and his website is awesome.
he has the same taste in music as i do power metal Christian music and more.
i respect his opinions about his Cd's.
i agree on most of his opinions.
and this song rules..
his hall of shame is REALLY FUNNY also!!!
OphidianLord 3 years ago 3
Ultimatum rules asswipe! Let's see you sing better? He does pretty good considering it is live. Go buy an Ultimatum cd and listen for yourself. If you like Exodus you will like this band. Don't yap your trap unless you can do better. I write my own music and lyrics, so I can talk... ROCK ON!
WyckedVideo 4 years ago 6
yeah I agree, I don't think they have the best vocals but it fits the music kind of like old Annihilator or Overkill
eric710221 3 years ago
Ultimatum's growls are crappy, dude get good growls...
zkateyguy 4 years ago
Ultimatum are not a fuckin' death metal band or some shitty mallcore crap! They are a fuckin' thrash metal band! Why would you expect Ultimatum to growl!
lifelongmetalhead 4 years ago 3
because growling sounds way better than this meowing... -.-'
zkateyguy 4 years ago
Meowing? This is coming from someone with Lightforce in his favorites...
eric710221 3 years ago 2
that's because Mortification is one of my favourite bands and teh vocalist/bassist of Mort is also the bass player of Lightforce...
not that they sound absolutely great but it's just funny.
zkateyguy 3 years ago
Keep the great music Ultimatum, greatest Christian music I've heard in a long time thanks!
MisadventureFilms 4 years ago 2
These guys are awesome!!! I have the into the pit cd and it is incredible!!! I feel sorry for our neighbors!!! LOL
lisatoeppe 4 years ago 2
I actually filmed this video for Ultimatum. Awesome band, and awesome guys!!!
NMDude73 4 years ago 2
Good job!
lifelongmetalhead 4 years ago 2
The singer is very cool he's a big Metal fan. Go see his website: nolifetilmetalDOTcom
AceFrehley655 4 years ago 3
got to support the local bro's, Ultimatum you are the best Albuquerque has for real metal bands. You guys should go somplace where theres a better scene. I thought about trying out for guitarist when you were looking cause my style would have fit real well, but i didnt because i have, well a different look on things.\m/
666setherial 5 years ago
!,,!
Munkey106 5 years ago
Looks like the new CD will be released on Feb. 7. \m/
lifelongmetalhead 5 years ago
Fuckin' right. I mailed him to get some info on the band and he was very cool!!! No Life Till Metal fuckin' rules too!!!
lifelongmetalhead 5 years ago 2
Yeah, Scott Waters is the Man (although I don´t agree with some of his views)! I really like his NO LIFE ´TIL Metal-page, this guy is fuckin´ METAL!!!
Alterofmadness 5 years ago
Man, I am so glad to see this video on here!!! I am the dude who filmed this. I think the video turned out pretty darn good! Let me tell you, these guys are intense on stage, and are truly awesome friends!!! I can't wait til the next show!! If you don't have thier recently released limited edition EP "...til the End", you need to get it!
NMDude73 5 years ago
yeah!! HEART OF METAL, is the first time that i see ultimatum, but i was searching for long ago, and i like this song
steelbilly 5 years ago
A M A Z I N G ! Discovered this video searching for Overkill! Is this song representative of wha this band sounds like? If so I'll need to search out some more.
lifelongmetalhead 5 years ago
It's not harmonizing. There's no harmony here at all. It's gang vocals, like on Vengeance Rising's song "Tion". Ultimatum have a lot of heart but without the guitar solos they would be rather ordinary. Scott is a great guy but I'm afraid I just don't dig his vocals.
linotheundead 5 years ago
wow, you are harsh. guess you cant please everyone all of the time
heathinjersey 5 years ago
Please, don't get me wrong... I do like Ultimatum and their ministry is awesome, but musically it is the strong guitar work of Robert Gutierrez that carries this band. I feel that they'd be that much greater if Scott sang with a melody akin to the Dio style sound that he himself is a huge fan of. I've heard him actually SING before and it would just freshen it up heaps. He has true talent that just seems hidden because he doesn't use it.
linotheundead 5 years ago
Hey cool! First time I heard them do any harmonizing.
heathinjersey 5 years ago
!,,! !,,!
Munkey106 5 years ago
\,,/
kingofthekill 5 years ago