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  • god help us if we go to war,the only thing the irish army is good for is clearing snow off footpaths!!!

  • One billion you must be joking.

  • thay should have an apache and some a10 coz there budget is 1.07 billion i seen it on wkipeadia sounds like alot but one helicopter is about 1 mil each

  • the three people that dislike this video there houses must off gotten hit by there smoke bomb

  • at 3:37 doesnt it look like the strip of bullets are being fed the wrong way around? or is this the way blanks are fired if they are firing blanks

    ?

  • Hey, i need to know, does anyone really know what the cadet training is like in the Irish Army, is it really hard? Like physically? Thinking about joining, thanks

  • i do think the Irish Defense Forces are very professional. And I like them, though It would be nice to see them with better air support, not talking about a top of the line f22's or anything, maybe some a10s, maybe some f15s, and a small fleet of Apache's would be nice.

    cheers from the US

  • Yay they use bullpups!

  • I agree, the Irish and British must put aside our dispute and work together in order to be strong and honorable! Besides, there are others that we should be worried about...

  • is this unit>>102 Infantry Battalion . still in Chad?? if so, they must block all Chadian mercs from entering Libya.

  • If British and Irish troops were working together in a UN peace keeping mission, would there be any animosty becuese of all the history?.

  • Hopefuly Im Gunna Fly The AW123 There iN The Vid In A Few Years :D

  • God bless the lads 

  • Excellent video

  • i want to join the irish army

  • I want to join

  • im 17 realy wana join d army but still in school nall :Z duno if i shud leave ?!?!

  • @ocean3da i dont know were your from but in ireland te women are treated just like the lads i should know

  • i cant wait till im old enough to join the rangers

  • i cant wait 2 join the army :):):):)

  • well done lads and ladies..fair play to ye..good to see ye out an about.. great work !

  • well done on a good vid. good to see somethin on the irish defence forces other than the recruitment ads. just a pity the usual shithead posters have to get into a slangin match

  • @kyle6327, Thanks and your 100% correct in relation to the slangin match

  • @TheMedicalman

    its there because of nato obligations and worldwide peace missions that have nothing to do with us,the irish always shout insults at us by if you were ever invaded no one and i literally mean NO ONE would come to you aid except the UK,you'd like us then wouldnt you

  • Is the Irish military corrupt and liers? Cuz the American military do lie when they get you to join and out military is corrupt because we have inside gangs.

  • Before I joined the IDF, i was thinking of joining the Irish Guards in the British Army. But I'm glad that my decision was leading me to the Western Brigade of the Defence Forces. Proud to be one of Erin's soldiers, Ireland - Up!

  • @clarkeyladDF haha thats odd we love the irish ( we mexicans ) becouse your men in the us army deserted becouse they treated catholics bad in the us army and becouse mexico is catholic and not protestant like the us they went to the mexican army and formed the san patrick batallion they even made a song about it :D and a movie you should see it in youtube

  • @TheMedicalman true we love you ( coming from a mexican ) for hellping us in the mexican-american war :) san patricks battalion oh and the US NEEDS A 10 TIME BIGGER ONE :D

  • @MrEnglishToff yea we would if our government was fukn gay and put some money in air force

  • No recruitment anytime soon. so any lad looking in will probaly have to fight with 20 other potential recruits for the 1 spot wen they do open up again. I want a miitary career and if joining the brits is the way 2 get it i am.. cus the irish goverment dont give a toss about me or any other young lad in da country at da mome. and these asshole that have a problem wit me joining them, fuk off and sort ur lives out. all anti-british yet they support engish footy teams LOL that 1 gets me every time

  • @ChaosDynamics Norway is also part of nato.

  • What wars have Ireland fought in and no peace keeping doesn't count?

  • @wellingtonian2009 theres a long list man just google irish battles and wiki will come up not to metion they fought in the american civil war,napolenoic war,us-mexican war 150,000 died in world war 1 and alot fought under britian in ww2 some actually deserted their posts in the Irish republic to join the uk even though they fought against them for independance years earlier

  • @dennynua which was the most recent war Ireland was involved in and why aren't they a mamber of NATO?

  • @wellingtonian2009 loads and unlike the americans they do it 4 a reason

  • @MrEnglishToff BTW. If the taliban/Al Queda/Serbia proxies etc, can hide from so called modern technology anyone can. The Russians in 1999 managed to cross Bosnia and kosovo to occupy Pristina airport without the Brits of the Yanks knowing about it. Thats an entire column winding its way for 24hrs + during a full NATO campaign. Eyes in the sky! my arse.

  • @MakeNine42 Obviously, internal threats being the greatest.

  • apart from the rifles, the irish army is very similar to the British one.

  • @lordnazgul100

    same training methods and origin ireland used to be part of the UK

  • @MrEnglishToff . We are a small neutral country of 4 million people. We don't require the military expenditure you are talking about. Our defence forces have undergone radical reorganisation and down sizing in the past fifteen years. They are leaner, fitter and well equipt. The are fit for purpose in terms of their remit - a defence force for a small neutral country.

  • I think the Irish should get Air support but what you say about the Russian and Vietnam war your forgeting that the U.S. Army faced off against the Vietmanese with a few forces and yet they won i think the Irish whould be able to do the same but idk about the Russian even though the U.S. Army faced them too and yet still won but yes Ireland is small but they still can get more equipment and Air support so i think they will do just fine

  • @Gladeator502 why should ireland get air support? if there is any war, we will stay neutral

  • Yes I am Irish. The West's Asleep if you are anything to go by.

  • I am Irish. The West is Asleep if you are anything to go by.

  • Ireland is not a republic, six counties of Ireland are under British occupation. Unless you believe Ireland is the 26 county state your British masters designed for you and told you to shut up and live in it. Why would you help britain out if it got invaded while they occupy and divide Irish territory?

  • Part of Ireland is occupied by Britain you clown.

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  • @TomBarry192I

    last time i checked NI willingly wants to be part of the UK by over 60 percent of the population,ask a british person on the street whether or not we want ulster and they would say no give it back i assure you,its the prodestants up there not letting us give it back,stop having a go at us brits and start having ago at the ulsterman

  • @VigisKane yeah thats true most english i know are sound but as for the guys up north they wouldnt piss on you if yeah were on fire.

  • i tink equipping lads wit javelins and anti tank missiles would be more effective then tank on tank combat.

  • ders a huge amount of gernadiers

  • We're only British on our passports. Unlucky.

  • well i got a irish passport and im from derry? :D

  • Love the Irish Army. Very professional and courageous lads and can certainly kick ass.

    Keep it up lads!!

  • dude, it hasen't been hunderds of years. you have controlled them scince 1922. So VERY recent. And can I just say, I don't appreciate you saying "Why can't YOU just leave them alone" as if I personaly or my nation are responsible.

  • listen, i don't agree with them killing people obviously. But how would you feel for example, if ireland invaded britain and managed to take over a third of it. And there was a group of people who were fighting to get it back. Now are they terrorist scum? Just because they are trying to get intruders out of their country?

  • @SporeGladiator I would love the irish army to try that lol and if you look into hitory ireland gave the scots this land it wasnt stolen... Yas just arnt getting it back lol

  • @SporeGladiator u act like we just took it over wht i got told is tht we took it over like 100years ago king henery the one wid 8 or somethin wifes im 13 gimme a break :L year the defensive forces look good but also think of this how would u like it if a country tht ur taxes go to get bettr cancer drugs and health care (scotland) and anouther country ur taxes go to h8s u nd kills ur troops nd cost u more than 300,00 thousand

  • @ccbr1 i am northern irish and joining the british army (a cadet till then). i think you misunderstand just what you anglo-saxons did to eire you took our language our money our food and our families yet the IDF have done fuckall to you we dont take your taxes nor do we hate you but you must learn why we are all sour look at what youve done to aAlba,Eire and Wales. you took much more than any of us. and imagine how i feel when you blame us.you didnt do it nor i but we must both rebuild together

  • @IrishScotSupergael8 I'm from Armagh and serve in the Irish Defense forces. If you have something political to say, here is not the place.

  • @UnknownOconnor You're dead right. I will not express my thoughts on the British occupation/oppression in Éire, but I know we have to leave it aside from time to time. Thank you for serving the beautiful nation we both love, & hopefully it will regain its economic strength. ;) Go raibh míle maith agat!

  • @SporeGladiator the irish army does not kill unless it is recuired

  • in your opinion

  • @oxo121 OK, what are you talking about? Honestly?

  • I thought the IRA was there only defence :P

  • @EvilRedGoose what's that supposed to mean? the IRA are terrorists!

  • @SporeGladiator THE IRA ARE FREEDOM FIGHTERS SORR ABOUT YE PAL.

  • I know, there are 2 views. I assume that person is british so I don't want to say they are freedom fighters and get into a massive fight. I personaly do beleive they are freedom fighters myself.

  • @SporeGladiator aye i get understand. The only thing i can say here doh if the english back in the day never invaded ireland there would be no such thing as the IRA or RIRA CIRA PRIA INLA. They brought it upon themselfs i have noting agasint english or anyting.

  • yep, totaly true in my opinion.

  • Or, if they worked with Britian then against them like the republic in the first world war then there probably would be a united ireland

  • @Aliasify The this wouldnt be ireland..or irish...we would be part of the UK witch none of us wanted quite clearly. You do relise when you look back at history the english had a nasty habit of invading countrys to make it there own...but we fought back like any other sane person would. i think theres a voting going down soon for a united ireland but half the bollex is always rigged so dunno whats going te happen.

  • I am aware we had that habbit, hence the empire. Most British soldiers never wanted to go to the province during the troubles, most british people dont really care if there is a united ireland, but a lot of people in NI want to remain part of the UK, and when there are a lot biiger problems at the moment and the IRA etc continue with violence they do more harm then good to there own cause.

  • @Aliasify theres plenty of non voilent campains in ireland and NI im living in dublin and the only thing i know is that RIRA and CIRA are the ones carrying out the attacks few memebers of the IRA are in political movemnt now. im not against english or british, to be honest i would love a united ireland.

  • I wonder if even there was a united ireland there would still be violent. i mean there is the whole religious thing, the fact that a lot of RIRA/CIRA still deal with crime in republican areas by taking the law into thier own hands

  • @Aliasify religion dosent come into the matter up north. its about opression, and whats funny about the the kneecapping with the repuclicans is half them still support them after they have been delt with. all the punishment beatings are back for drugdealiing joyriding, to be fair they do a better job then the police force but still dosent give em any right.

  • * artillery

  • anyone else think the troops are bunched quite close together? 1 good artillerary shell by enemy forces would kill/injure several at once...

  • thats probably good news. rbs70s are probably much better at shooting down any kind of hovering helicopter, I cant really see any chopper being able to shake off a laser thats pointed at it. FIM Stingers are as you said fire and forget so they probably leave fast jets vulnerable. To be honest they are both good because all they need is 1guy to operate and are highly mobile. As for the scorpian vehicles i not seen them in a while, i think most of them were sold off, replaced by the warriorFV510:)

  • Did the uk not phase out the scorpian tanks ??? thought they were just using the spartans and those types of apcs for light recon duties,, could be wrong though ??

  • @bountyc you understand ireland is NOT part of the UK, don't you? If you didn't, go look up the 1916 rising, it's about how we got our independence.

  • @SporeGladiator er yeah me thinks so but whats this got to do with me saying that we've rbs 70 sams or that the current tanks we use have been phased out by the uk. Not sure if you have read several different txts from different people and came up with your own assuption so, i think i will leave it on that note and walk slowly backwards out of this textbook.

  • USA/ Brits all have multi million aircraft/ helo gunships all worth a fuck against the current conflict in afghanstan when fighting a couter insurgency it goes back to basics in that boots on the ground, Hence lok what happened to Israel when they invaded lebenon there 3yrs back again fighters big tanks and within three weeks lost over 120 troops and their considered one of the best armies in the world so dont need all that shite uness fighting the russians or chinese :)

  • @bountyc Most of what you are saying is right, troops on the ground is the most important thing, and if NATO wanna defeat the Taliban in the long run, they are gonna need far more numbers of infantry than they currently have deployed. This is why they are currently training hundreds of thousands of Afghans in the ANA, so they can eventually win. Tanks are also useless as you say, when the russians invaded in the 80s most of their tanks were wiped out in ambushes and hit n runs.

  • Agreed, air calvary is vital for recon and strike purposes. God help us if the afghans get sum decent man portable sams :)

  • @bountyc however your argument of aircraft is incorrect. Aircraft is the most important asset that ISAF need right now in the current conflict. Think about it, everytime a patrol pin points a taliban stronghold they either call in an airstrike using fighter jets or send an Apache Gunship to kill them. Also think about how big Afghan is, why would you risk your troops trekking 200 miles across land when a Chinook helicopter can do it in 1 hour. ISAF have even complained that they need more helis.

  • You are right about the IDF not needing tanks or other attack vehicles especcially in using defensive geurilla warefare. But if any invader then starting using attack helicopters or gunships then irish infantry on the ground would be in big trouble. They would probably have to stock up on large numbers of portable SAMs like stinger missiles to counter it.

  • ahh shutup, you just keep making an irrelevant argument, dont bother replying, i aint listening, oh and have an air corp, do you know what that is? i highly doubt your intelligence

  • @FPVsean Dont question my intelligence, when you dont have any of your own. We do have an Air Corp. The Army Air Corps consists of five operational regiments, two training regiments and one reserve regiment. It also has a number of independent squadrons and flights. Headquarters Army Air Corps is located at Middle Wallop, Hampshire. So we do have an Air Corp as well as an Airforce. So why dont think about it next time before you speak bullshit from your mind. Remember THINK FIRST!

  • regardless of the fact that the RAF is british, damn dude, i dont care what you say, or your little fag argument, your still a fucking retard, dont bother replying, i aint caring, i aint listening

  • Quick note, irish lads have purchased rbs 70 and aircraft tracking trucks, rbs cant be blocked or jamed as it works by placing a laser at the aircraft, only problem have to keep the laser on the aircraft as its not a fire and forget missile :)

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  • FPVsean,

    You really have managed to make yourself look like a halfwit have you not?

    It is very clear that the avarage Irish soldier is not as well equipped as a British soldier.

    Uniform is very much a part of a soldiers equipment. A soldier would not be very much use in combat without it.

    On the point of all the Brits being fat, well they could just turn around and call all of us ginger, backward, gypsy thieves.

    FPV for the sake of Ireland.... smash your PC!

  • do you not understand that the irish soldier is one of the best equipped soldiers in the world, you brits? under equipped, no im not braggin, im stating the truth, and vehicles? were a neutral country, we only need troop carriers, such as our agusta aw139s and our small naval fleet... alot of assholes trying to poke fun at ireland not having attack vehciles, honestly its bullshit, we dont need them, we provide support to you brits etc, back to my point, we have better equipped soldeirs than you

  • @FPVsean If I were you I would do some serious research before I make a comparison between the two. Even US soldiers have had cases in the media where they have been sent to afghanistan under equipped and without the correct equipment for the job. Ive spoken to people from Ireland who are now serving in the British Army but did serve mostly around 3 years in the Irish Defence Forces, but eventually got fed up with it and made the switch. In terms of equipment for most of the Irish soldiers

  • q: What should you do if an Irish soldier throws a pin at you?

    A: RUNNNNN! He's got a grenade in his mouth!

  • as for sinking in mud/bogs

    modern tanks are wider than older tanks

    how do you think vehicles can drive on a bog? they are wider,and most of the bogs left in ireland are blanket bogs,which wouldnt do much

  • of course ive seen irish roads...and no the raods arent all one way,even so yes a tanks turret is disabled

    and you say a 30mm round cant do anything to a tank? wow a A-10 has a 30mm,and we fire the same round,only the a10 fires at a higher rate fire,our 30mm could disable a tank track,which makes it pretty useless then,and bring up a javelin

    and planes arent as effective against troops as you think,first u must find the enemy,then the plane just swoops in where it thinks they are

  • WRONG! a bog would not suck in a tank.there made to drive over them,which is one reason why there so wide, i think you played to much cod4

    plus tank use raods when its safe,or their in a urban place,other wise its fields for them

    however.the javelins we have would make mince meat of a tank,plus if their left,our PC-9(trust me it can) and AT-4 and carl gustav's

    the 30mm cannon mowags could disable it and the scorpion too,aml-90 would do more damage,

    you dont to blow up a tank to make it useles

  • I'm thinking about joining the DF in about two and a half years when I turn 17. Anyone got any tips or much-needed advice they could share with me?

  • depends on what you want really,however start getting fit :P as no matter what you train in attack+defence tactics

  • is dat near bundoran ? i loveee bundoran :L

  • Whats your point??

    I didn't say the DF need tanks, I said the opposite. I said an attack helicopter is just as pointless to the DF as a main battle tank.

  • we borrow all that in the middile east off the russians and the UN, we had a couple mi24 hinds from the russians at one stage working with the UN, but these are just hte reserve defence forces, they are on constant standby in case they are needed

  • Thats what is said. I said we rent heavy lift helicopters such as Mi-17''s.

    Didn't know about the Mi-24's though.

    What do you mean "these are just reserve defense forces"???

    The fella's in the vid are PDF, the RDF are playing the enemy.

  • The DF rarely need that heavy lift capability, hence the smaller helicopters, and thats why they only rent the larger heli's when they need them.

    The main problem with operations overseas is getting your troops and equipment there.

    Which is why the Navel Service have 2 MRV's on the way.

  • I know what they are, i'm saying their not needed for the operations that the DF are involved in.

    They are pointless for the DF in the same way that main battle tanks are.

  • Heavy Transport planes would be a better idea then heavier transport helicopters. To move vehicles, troops and supplies to areas such as chad.

    The DF also usually rent Mi-17s while overseas already to fulfill the heavy lift helicopter role.

  • For those who do not not know the term - The Glen refers to The Glen of Imaal in the Wicklow hills where most of the DF training occurs.. (not all, I said most!)

  • Contrary to common belief, I have been there!! LOL!!

  • The Eurocopter EC135 can actually be upgraded with Rocket pods and Mini-Guns, making it comparable to that of a AH-6.

    Also the AW139 can be upgraded to provide fire support.

    The Pilatus PC-9's are actually already used also in a ground attack role via wing mounted rocket pods.

    If the DF ever decided to go with a dedicated heli gunship it would be more likely they'd go for something lighter then an Apache, more likely a Cobra.

  • we only have 2 ec135's 3 if you count the air corps garda wing, but i doubt theyd upgrade that, we have 12 aw139's anyway put a weapon rack on one of those and your sorted

  • An Apache would actually cost a lot more then 20 million.

    20 million is just the cost to actually buy one, you have to take into account training pilots, fuel, weapons, maintenance, etc.

    One Apache would run into the area of 50million or more. And 12 is too many for the DF, probably about 4 would do, if we needed them.

  • If there is ever a battle in this country and it's not fought in the Glen, forget about it!! LOL!

  • And may i point out that the Georgian Army was only slightly larger then that of the DF.

  • As for guerrilla tactics, i said already:

    "The Defense Forces was first designed and has always intended to be a highly mobile light infantry force designed to out maneuver larger, slower forces."

    That is guerrilla warfare.

    Which was used quite successfully by Georgia against Russia recently. Russia being a much much larger force then Georgia, but they still had a lot of trouble tackling them.

    The tactics used by Georgia would be like the ones the DF would use.

  • Multiple Javelins would be used against a tank formation, not just one. Each javelin would really only need one shot. Preferably there would be one Javelin per each target.

    In cases where there are more targets then shooters then they'd relocate the javelin a fire and forget system, they'd be gone before the missile even reaches the target. And long before the target ever figures out their location.

    Either way it still doesn't justify why the DF would need heavy armor.

  • You spend time in the DF yet you bad mouth it like this. Saying the DF is trained to WW2 standards, which is why i find it hard to believe you were in it at all.

    If you really did spend time in the DF you should at least show some respect for your own countries military. There's already enough people making snide comments about the DF without former members turning against it.

    I know that there are no exact numbers, it was a sarcastic comment.

  • Which is another reason why our money is better spent on MOWAG Piranha's to transport our troops around while at the same time providing good fire support, rather then spending all our money on something like a Leo or an Abrams that we'd never use.

  • Logistical air support is available to transport troops and supplies.

    Ireland doesn't have the need for Combat air support so it would be a waste of money. Protection of Irish air space is given to the EU. Main contributer to our air defense obviously being the UK seeing as how their right next door.

    The Defense Forces was first designed and has always intended to be a highly mobile light infantry force designed to out maneuver larger, slower forces.

  • trained to WW2 standards??

    Did the time period where you were in the DF happen to be during WW2 by any chance??

    36hrs? thats a very exact number.

    ......i'm beginning to think your full of shit.

    Heavy Armor is slow and mainly used for offensive purposes, not defensive. Hence we have Javelins to defend against heavy armor.

    We have enough artillery to support the number of troops we have. That artillery is also air mobile via AW139 heli lift.

  • flytheunionjack thanks for your reply and your point.

  • hey asshole id like to see you say that to one of the lads faces and they'd rip your head of!!

  • top marks to the irish defence forces, keep up the good work lads!!!!

  • "their tanks have 8 gears 1 forward and 7 reverse lol"

    Thats funny as hell lol.

  • its a joke

  • IRELAND FTW

  • irishyetiboy you hit it bang on! Same with me, I former member and what you wrote hear always played in the back of my mind before I left. That plus Irish military is shrinking by the day.

  • For which we have our own government to thank for.. I got a mail recently pointing at about 50 uniforms per month on the go.. After the budget I can see this figure increasing.. I myself am one of them.

  • I heard from a british soldier who was also in the irish army said the irish was way harder, probably because it was his first experience ... who knows

  • maybe peaple dont no this but the irish defence forces are NOT trained in conventional warfare! they are trained in unconventional warfare (gorilla warfare) but only in the case of defence of the home land which the PDF are trained in the highest of standards. but in the case of this video its for over sea missions so conventional warfare is what they do. this comment is for those who think the PDF are usless in the defence of the state which they are not. regards. please reply!!!

  • dont know where u heard that but they are trained in BOTH conventional an un-conventional warfare

  • ill put it this way! ireland will never be invaded by an other military power due to the fact that any hostile action on us would make the brits take it as a hostile action against them selves and also that we are surounded by the 3 largest military powers in the world usa,england,france. the only way i could see us getting invaded was if the ww3 started which mighten be fare off some may say??

  • who said anything bou ww3 or ireland being invaded, as it said at the beginning of the vid, training for overseas purposes, though all the same it wouldnt hurt to have the training on the home front

  • no1 did im simply sharing my point on the training on the PDF and not soley on this video as many of the other comments rae also :)

    and we do need more videos like this to scare of the enamy >:|

  • Dont agree we have a artillery regs air defence which we never send the 105s overseas so these are conventional weapons... while i do agree that with a small army if we were invaded by a larger force say brits or french with about 30,000 we would be a conventional army for about a week before due to be overwhelmed the army would have to resort to non conventional tatics ie fuel supply hit and runs,, roadside bombing

  • gorilla?

  • Gorilla?

  • Gorilla? Seriously?

  • im thinking of joiming.jus wanted ta no is d training hard?????

  • You've gotta be joking right? Would you really think it wasn't?

  • Really need more footage like this to show work done...great post-cheers for the coverage

  • Excellent video, very well put together and shows very accurately the type of robust training our military now do to prepare for difficult overseas operations. Well done to all involved.

  • class !

  • On the Ball in Donegal,

    Finner for Dinner,

    Dun Rea for tea!

    Great vid, the PDF are top notch.

  • wat wer the objectives

  • the new eu army and people on trolleys in our hospitals

  • typical skeptic

  • Hip to be left...It's the smallest def budget p.h.c in europe

  • Good post,

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