This song is a great lost Byrds song !!! Love the melody and Gene's writing.
@konaspirit - Gene and Gram Parsons are my two favorite writers of American music I have EVER heard !!! You are a very lucky man to have known him. He passed away on the same day my mother died,albeit 15 years after her !!! How's that for coincidence ?? I was just playing "Roadmaster" a few hours ago !! What a writer;Hear The Wind.,One In A Hundred,etc,etc,I could go on and on.
Probably the best song in the reunion album and one of the most underrated and ignored songs by The Byrds. I love that folkie tune and his harp phrases. Lovely.
Can't believe I had totally forgotten about this album, it's beautiful. I have the vinyl up my loft somewhere, oh and I want to know, where does the time go!
This Truely is a Good album, I wish I could get a download for the Song Long,Long time, from the Mcguinn, Clark and Hillman Album. If anyone has one , could you please send it to me?. Thanks.
@2BlackBird The 12 string electric was way overused by this band. You dont have to have every godamn song with it. They limited themselves by this and it created a straightjacket in that every song sounded the same. A great sound mind you but any great sound wears after a short while when that's all there is.
Hey, Betsy Wells is a modern-day band that implements this style of folk-rock. They are the only band that I really have found that do so. Refreshing!
Not underrated or ignored by me - this is one of my very favorite Byrds tunes! Love the words and the harmonizing on the chorus is absolutely magnificent!!
I'm glad somebody else thinks this song deserves recognition! Although the 1968-72 "country" Byrds was my favorite lineup, I think the reunion album was great too, and "Changing Heart" was the best song on the album. Kinda summed up the Byrds' history in one tune. Gene Clark was one of the great songwriters of that generation, even if he's often underrated.
you know , despite egos and being so young at the time, as Gene Clark put it, it's still the wonderful combination of that period of that group that captured me, their material, their harmonies, the work they did on their tunes, the 12, the bass, all of it...once you begin removing and tearing it apart some magic is lost..kinda in a way like john and paul, togther they were magic, apart just individuals, its amazing how once they got to columbia they came up with some fine recordings .
I was dissapointed when it came out but i think we expected too much..they had not played together for six years...there are a few turkeys but i just enjoy it now for what it is..a pretty good album...maybe if they had made a follow up.......
I have to agree that Crosby did and probably still does have a huge ego problem. I never did care much for him. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I always liked McGuinn. Of course to me as a 16 yr old kid, he was the epitome of cool. The Byrds will always be my favorites. Its been a wonderful ride!
STRATman.. sure ... Crosby had a big ego back then.. BUT- keep in mind the Byrds would NOT have been what they were( particularly in the vocal dept) as Croz did all those stellar high harmonies-some of the best EVER committed to tape.
Wrote a few pretty good tunes, too. Certainly he was a crucial part of the Byrds sound.
Perhaps, but "Deja Vu" was lifted from Essra Mohawk's "I Have Been Here Before" & he never owned up to it. It's from PRIMORDIAL LOVERS that's been called the Mother Album of "grrrl power." FYI, of course...
I was lucky to have seen Gene Clark play in Greenwich Village sometime in the 80's. It was a great show, and as I started heading out I walked by the bar and Gene was standing facing out from the bar. I told him how much I enjoyed the show. He was so nice and gracious and smiling widely as he thanked me. I'll never forget meeting him. I wish he was still around. I hope he knew how much he was appreciated.
@abata15 I knew Gene. We had the same manager in 80. Him and I became good friends on the account that we are both American Indian. We really didn't collaborate on anything, however, he did like my version of Gordon Lightfoot's "If you could read my mind" and later did an album with that song on it. He was also friends with Jesse Ed Davis, who had passed away by then(wish I could have met him). Gene inspired me, but its not til now that I've gotten it together with my band, Medicine Road.
I recently saw a video by Crosby and he admitted when he was in the Byrds he had a huge ego problem and he did. He always came across to me like somebody you'd want to walk up to and give 'em a good right hook. I've heard he is really a smart aleck even today but I don't know that for sure so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I'd like to meet him anyway and talk music with him but I'll probably never get that chance.
can someone explain why a lot of people don't like Crosby ? i don't a lot about the Byrds story but i like a lot of song written by crosby when he was in the Byrds ??
someone can explain me why a lot of people doesn't like Crosby i don't know a lot about the history of the Byrds but i love a lot of Crosby song when he was in The Byrds ????
thanks for posting this Huck - truly one of my favourite Byrds songs from one of my favourite Byrds albums. Gene's lyrics and the incredible harmonies just glisten! "Full Circle" is another standout by Gene Clark from this album. As some one said earlier, check out the DIllard & Clark albums for more gems by Gene. I have "The Fantastic Expedition of D & C" - defintely also under-rated. I also have the 1966 "L.A. Sessions" that Gene did...if you can find this obscurity...grab it!
I find it difficult to argue your point. His history shows a brash, arrogance. By his own admission, also heavily drug-addicted throughout the whole period.
To be fair, obviously all of his moments were not down-moments.
Same goes for Graham Nash; great within the confines of a group, but on the same ego trip that Crosby was on; both of them thought they were better than the groups they got their original fame from (The Byrds and The Hollies). But both bands went on without each of them and continued to make excellent music.
You guys are definitely on the right track. This may be one of the very best Byrds albums, and virtually nobody knows about it. Plus extra credit for the two Neil Young songs.
I always thought this album got a bad rap. Sure, it's overproduced...Crosby overproduced everything he touched. But the Gene Clark songs, particularly, shine through the layers of sound. Definitely check out Roadmaster and the Dillard and Clark records to experience Clark in a significantly less produced vein.
David Crosby was too smart for his own good. As McGuinn said once, he just didn't think the Byrds were hip. Ironically, it would be the hip crowd that didn't like this album. He had it coming to him. McGuinn said he watched Crosby break out in a sweat when it came to mixing the album.
Crosby didn't think The Byrds were 'hip'? Of course they were. What did Crosby think he was, super hip? Oh brother, another idiot comment from the walrus himself.
Maybe if you would phrase things properly, a person could understand what you're saying. You said "he" when you should have said "Crosby". Then it was McGuinn who said it. Fine. Now we know there were two idiots in the band. I always liked Gene Clark best anyway.
I almost forgot about this song. I think the song you are refering is in Gene's Roadmaster album. If you havn't heard that album I recommend it highly, especially if you are a Bryds fan.
Because the album sounds more like Crosby Stills and Nash far more than it sound like the old Byrds, it is usually dismissed. Thats too bad because its an excellent album and Gene shines.
damn didnt know anyone who loves this. i have this album. hell didnt know anyone remembered. what a sweet band. then came crosby stills nash and young omg
To me one of Gene's best tunes. Heavily underrated song.
rollandmcroll 1 week ago
This was a great album. I never understood why it was panned.
unclebobunclebob 2 months ago
This song is a great lost Byrds song !!! Love the melody and Gene's writing.
@konaspirit - Gene and Gram Parsons are my two favorite writers of American music I have EVER heard !!! You are a very lucky man to have known him. He passed away on the same day my mother died,albeit 15 years after her !!! How's that for coincidence ?? I was just playing "Roadmaster" a few hours ago !! What a writer;Hear The Wind.,One In A Hundred,etc,etc,I could go on and on.
jonruss56 7 months ago
Probably the best song in the reunion album and one of the most underrated and ignored songs by The Byrds. I love that folkie tune and his harp phrases. Lovely.
johnriley68 10 months ago
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I'm eighteen and this is the first vinyl I bought two weeks ago.
I love the byrds since I was a little baby and I just adore this one. Makes me cry.
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bebinonins 1 year ago
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I'm eighteen and this is the first vinyl I bought two weeks ago.
I love the byrds since I was a little baby and I just adore this one. Makes me cry.
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bebinonins 1 year ago
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bebinonins 1 year ago
Can't believe I had totally forgotten about this album, it's beautiful. I have the vinyl up my loft somewhere, oh and I want to know, where does the time go!
Thanks for posting
incongra 1 year ago
Long Live the Byrds
CleanLineFilms 1 year ago
This Truely is a Good album, I wish I could get a download for the Song Long,Long time, from the Mcguinn, Clark and Hillman Album. If anyone has one , could you please send it to me?. Thanks.
tom89074 1 year ago
Remindws me of campin upstate n.y. in the early 70's...those were stellar times!!
ioriorioriorio 1 year ago
great song
shanehenning26 1 year ago
David - bad boy Crosby- produced the CD, that may explain why Roger's
12 string is undermixed. Or is it suppose to be understated? Maybe they all
agreed to give up something on this LP, as in "Can we all just get along?"
2BlackBird 1 year ago
@2BlackBird The 12 string electric was way overused by this band. You dont have to have every godamn song with it. They limited themselves by this and it created a straightjacket in that every song sounded the same. A great sound mind you but any great sound wears after a short while when that's all there is.
genericgeorge 6 months ago
This is an extremely underrated song.
johnhamilton08 1 year ago
Hey, Betsy Wells is a modern-day band that implements this style of folk-rock. They are the only band that I really have found that do so. Refreshing!
StephenMU19 1 year ago
Not underrated or ignored by me - this is one of my very favorite Byrds tunes! Love the words and the harmonizing on the chorus is absolutely magnificent!!
anthonypepitoneVideo 2 years ago
They should remaster this album and bring forward Mcguinn's 12 string, which is now buried almost inaudibly deep into the mix most of the time.
With earphones, the rickenbacker van be heard faintly, if you have good ears though.
All of this thanks to producer Crosby who kept Mcguinn off the album as much as possible, due to unsettled ego clashes between them.
gerardusch 2 years ago 3
this song is legit
MadeinChinuh 2 years ago
I'm glad somebody else thinks this song deserves recognition! Although the 1968-72 "country" Byrds was my favorite lineup, I think the reunion album was great too, and "Changing Heart" was the best song on the album. Kinda summed up the Byrds' history in one tune. Gene Clark was one of the great songwriters of that generation, even if he's often underrated.
JobberBud 2 years ago 6
Somehow I think this song is actually about Gene's frustrations with trying to be a Byrd, a rock star -
when you are singing from the soul
they fail to see your final goal
they only tell you that you have a long ways left to go.
gamoonbat 2 years ago
This I agree a beautiful song, and They were the Magic, and for me stillare. I saw them in London, minus Gene, but they were brilliant. Thanks.
GreyCampbell 2 years ago
@ MrBruceBarham
Thank you for your Posting.
chrisamar08 2 years ago
you know , despite egos and being so young at the time, as Gene Clark put it, it's still the wonderful combination of that period of that group that captured me, their material, their harmonies, the work they did on their tunes, the 12, the bass, all of it...once you begin removing and tearing it apart some magic is lost..kinda in a way like john and paul, togther they were magic, apart just individuals, its amazing how once they got to columbia they came up with some fine recordings .
MrBruceBarham 3 years ago
I was dissapointed when it came out but i think we expected too much..they had not played together for six years...there are a few turkeys but i just enjoy it now for what it is..a pretty good album...maybe if they had made a follow up.......
Jim
Jim
captainsoul1953 3 years ago
I have to agree that Crosby did and probably still does have a huge ego problem. I never did care much for him. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I always liked McGuinn. Of course to me as a 16 yr old kid, he was the epitome of cool. The Byrds will always be my favorites. Its been a wonderful ride!
stratman2617 3 years ago
STRATman.. sure ... Crosby had a big ego back then.. BUT- keep in mind the Byrds would NOT have been what they were( particularly in the vocal dept) as Croz did all those stellar high harmonies-some of the best EVER committed to tape.
Wrote a few pretty good tunes, too. Certainly he was a crucial part of the Byrds sound.
timjmoran 2 years ago 2
Perhaps, but "Deja Vu" was lifted from Essra Mohawk's "I Have Been Here Before" & he never owned up to it. It's from PRIMORDIAL LOVERS that's been called the Mother Album of "grrrl power." FYI, of course...
fecinny 2 years ago
I was lucky to have seen Gene Clark play in Greenwich Village sometime in the 80's. It was a great show, and as I started heading out I walked by the bar and Gene was standing facing out from the bar. I told him how much I enjoyed the show. He was so nice and gracious and smiling widely as he thanked me. I'll never forget meeting him. I wish he was still around. I hope he knew how much he was appreciated.
abata15 3 years ago 8
@abata15 I knew Gene. We had the same manager in 80. Him and I became good friends on the account that we are both American Indian. We really didn't collaborate on anything, however, he did like my version of Gordon Lightfoot's "If you could read my mind" and later did an album with that song on it. He was also friends with Jesse Ed Davis, who had passed away by then(wish I could have met him). Gene inspired me, but its not til now that I've gotten it together with my band, Medicine Road.
konaspirit 1 year ago
Gene Clark still rules. I was so lucky to be able to see him and all the original Byrds in Pittsburgh - back in 1962,63 or 64??
They played with the ORIGINAL Stones (Can you BELIEVE this?) and Bo Diddley +others. Those
days are long gone.Last Spring saw McGuinn solo
in Pittsburgh and I was so happy to hear him say that he "...had the priviledge of knowing
and working with a fine man and songwriter Gene Clark." All Hallelula!! This is justice afterall in Rock and Roll.
2BlackBird 3 years ago
This is a Gene Clark song. Gene Clark WAS the Byrds.
rickelmonoggin 3 years ago 2
I recently saw a video by Crosby and he admitted when he was in the Byrds he had a huge ego problem and he did. He always came across to me like somebody you'd want to walk up to and give 'em a good right hook. I've heard he is really a smart aleck even today but I don't know that for sure so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I'd like to meet him anyway and talk music with him but I'll probably never get that chance.
stratman2617 3 years ago
can someone explain why a lot of people don't like Crosby ? i don't a lot about the Byrds story but i like a lot of song written by crosby when he was in the Byrds ??
JFguitar22 3 years ago
The problem with Crosby arises when he opens his mouth to speak; nothing but twaddle emerges.
moorlock2003 3 years ago
someone can explain me why a lot of people doesn't like Crosby i don't know a lot about the history of the Byrds but i love a lot of Crosby song when he was in The Byrds ????
JFguitar22 3 years ago
Can anyone post a Byrds' song called Polly Come Home?
Thanks.
BoganClanVideos 3 years ago
go to "dillard and clark", thats the best version i've ever heard.
gribbstone234 3 years ago
Thanks for replying. I finally found Gene Clark singing on the Dillard & Clark version.
I like both versions (Robert Plant's version is slower, but I don't think he does too bad a job of it.)
BoganClanVideos 3 years ago
One of my fav's!
kevink82 3 years ago
thanks for posting this Huck - truly one of my favourite Byrds songs from one of my favourite Byrds albums. Gene's lyrics and the incredible harmonies just glisten! "Full Circle" is another standout by Gene Clark from this album. As some one said earlier, check out the DIllard & Clark albums for more gems by Gene. I have "The Fantastic Expedition of D & C" - defintely also under-rated. I also have the 1966 "L.A. Sessions" that Gene did...if you can find this obscurity...grab it!
skyvalleyradio 3 years ago
actually had this on an 8 track tape bought from discount bin around 1978
decades12 4 years ago
This reunion album was great except for the loser songs from Crosby.
brade51 4 years ago
Crosby has always been a jerk.
moorlock2003 4 years ago
I find it difficult to argue your point. His history shows a brash, arrogance. By his own admission, also heavily drug-addicted throughout the whole period.
To be fair, obviously all of his moments were not down-moments.
bobbilse 3 years ago
He was fine within the band when he wasn't speaking and making a jackass out of himself.
moorlock2003 3 years ago
True enough. I loved his harmony voice. So high and clear, but soft in tone, so that it tended to blend with other voices magnificently.
bobbilse 3 years ago
Same goes for Graham Nash; great within the confines of a group, but on the same ego trip that Crosby was on; both of them thought they were better than the groups they got their original fame from (The Byrds and The Hollies). But both bands went on without each of them and continued to make excellent music.
moorlock2003 3 years ago
You guys are definitely on the right track. This may be one of the very best Byrds albums, and virtually nobody knows about it. Plus extra credit for the two Neil Young songs.
diamondrhyme 4 years ago
I always thought this album got a bad rap. Sure, it's overproduced...Crosby overproduced everything he touched. But the Gene Clark songs, particularly, shine through the layers of sound. Definitely check out Roadmaster and the Dillard and Clark records to experience Clark in a significantly less produced vein.
0Trembleman0 4 years ago 2
And White Light. Stark and straight. Hypnotic Clark.
RossM3838 4 years ago
David Crosby was too smart for his own good. As McGuinn said once, he just didn't think the Byrds were hip. Ironically, it would be the hip crowd that didn't like this album. He had it coming to him. McGuinn said he watched Crosby break out in a sweat when it came to mixing the album.
tfmuch 4 years ago
Crosby didn't think The Byrds were 'hip'? Of course they were. What did Crosby think he was, super hip? Oh brother, another idiot comment from the walrus himself.
moorlock2003 3 years ago
Talk about idiot comments. This was something McGuinn said. Got it? It was his view of the situation. You were around?
tfmuch 3 years ago
Alright, so I misread your post. You don't have to be rude about it.
moorlock2003 3 years ago
Maybe if you would phrase things properly, a person could understand what you're saying. You said "he" when you should have said "Crosby". Then it was McGuinn who said it. Fine. Now we know there were two idiots in the band. I always liked Gene Clark best anyway.
moorlock2003 3 years ago
David Crosby brought the former Byrds back together to make this album.
He definitely missed the original lineup, and Gene's songwriting in particular.
gamoonbat 2 years ago
I got this LP when it first came out and always really liked it. The Gene Clarks songs are truly great, and there are other gems on this record.
lanceaction 4 years ago 2
What a great song...I always heard this album pretty much sucked. I would to love to hear full circle by G Clark off this lp. Is this in print?
BARTGRIGGS 4 years ago
Well now I heard Full Circle, love it...Check out the album No Other by Gene Clark!
BARTGRIGGS 4 years ago
There is a song "See the sky about to rain" on the album, I actually like that one better. This one is alright, but sounds too hoe down.
duinnerfs 4 years ago
I almost forgot about this song. I think the song you are refering is in Gene's Roadmaster album. If you havn't heard that album I recommend it highly, especially if you are a Bryds fan.
Clayton1949 4 years ago
Because the album sounds more like Crosby Stills and Nash far more than it sound like the old Byrds, it is usually dismissed. Thats too bad because its an excellent album and Gene shines.
RossM3838 4 years ago
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duinnerfs 4 years ago
Great vocal from the incredible gene clark
gerardusch 4 years ago
Thank you for upload. This is my favorite song from BYRDS.
hi from spain
ClarkKent2 4 years ago
damn didnt know anyone who loves this. i have this album. hell didnt know anyone remembered. what a sweet band. then came crosby stills nash and young omg
rfranklinw1 4 years ago
What a Gene gem! Thank you, Huck. I love it :-)
bolli912 4 years ago