Wow talk about nit picking, Most of the comments here make me cry. (Other they then that snoring guy. Even the supervisor talks l i k e a s n a i ....l). I understand that testing is supposed to be a bit anal but things like your partner releasing cspine after being told twice not to? If your school fails you for that please tell me where you are planning on working so i can avoid getting hurt in that state. Odds are ill get someone trained to let me bleed out because they took Cspine...
the student would have gotten an autofail beause it is stated at the start of the station that the student is in charge of all the actions of the assistant. I verified this with my instructor who is also a tester & he said yes if the examiner would have seen the assistant break c-spine the student would have gotten an autofail.
this student would have had a auto fail for this station. Watch the emt assistant, he let go of manual c-spine for just a second (2:47) the examiner didn't see it .
What's funny is this device was developed originally for use with Indy Car Racing (open capsule) and is theirfor supposed to be secured to the patiens posterior and then hoisted straight up and out of the vehicle. We do not use this device correctly per the manufactures directions, and if their is anyone out their looking for easy money from a lawsuit, this is it. Besides, who has a readily available hoisting device to perform this correctly in the first place?
Im talking about, unless you secure this device to the patient properly, cut and remove the roof, and use a hoisting device to remove the patient straight up out of the vehicle, then no we don't use these devices correctly. These were immobalization devices, designed to be used with open capsule (indy/formula 1) racing vehicles. I'm also referring to the green KED's that are used for the NREMT testing.
Interestingly, in our area, we criss-cross the torso straps. However, in this video, both straps were across the patient (as it was done MANY years ago). If I were to do this in this area, I would be accused of improper immobilization.
Is the standard in National Registry as shown in the video?
Remember that it is a good idea to assess for DCAP-BTLS on the back side of the patient as the log roll is being performed; as this could be your last chance to do so before the patient reaches the trauma center.
Kind of hard to see with the big
critical tips" banner right in the line of vision
sassylassie1018 6 months ago
Almost everyone failed the KED station in my class because they either didn't check PMS, or did it in the wrong order.
engine173351 8 months ago
Wow talk about nit picking, Most of the comments here make me cry. (Other they then that snoring guy. Even the supervisor talks l i k e a s n a i ....l). I understand that testing is supposed to be a bit anal but things like your partner releasing cspine after being told twice not to? If your school fails you for that please tell me where you are planning on working so i can avoid getting hurt in that state. Odds are ill get someone trained to let me bleed out because they took Cspine...
Fraga49 8 months ago
hey he didn't measure the neck brace with his fingers :[
DonnaApathy 9 months ago
the student would have gotten an autofail beause it is stated at the start of the station that the student is in charge of all the actions of the assistant. I verified this with my instructor who is also a tester & he said yes if the examiner would have seen the assistant break c-spine the student would have gotten an autofail.
kenreed872 1 year ago
this student would have had a auto fail for this station. Watch the emt assistant, he let go of manual c-spine for just a second (2:47) the examiner didn't see it .
kenreed872 1 year ago
@kenreed872 Good call
blackrockzig 1 year ago
@kenreed872 well no, the student didn't let go, the helper did, since the Student said in the beginning to not let go, he would not be penalized
livezeppelin 1 year ago
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Is it me or is patient communication in all of these videos REALLY poor?
Professsor 1 year ago
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Professsor 1 year ago
thanks for uploading
fd8644 1 year ago
This is a tough station if you don't demonstrate or verbalize every detail to your proctor. T bad we can't write more here for observation purposes.
randallpaulcom 1 year ago
These are the slowest skills stations I've ever seen.
I'm about to start producing sonorous respirations here.
2100km 2 years ago
you have to say neutral in-line position when referring to c-spine.
noahno88 2 years ago
does he ever measure the collar?
notaprincess26 2 years ago
yall are ridiculous. incomplete immobilization. what about how he didn't hold his hand on her sternum when he leaned her forward
jimthesnowboarder12 2 years ago
lol nice one
davidbathke 2 years ago
What's funny is this device was developed originally for use with Indy Car Racing (open capsule) and is theirfor supposed to be secured to the patiens posterior and then hoisted straight up and out of the vehicle. We do not use this device correctly per the manufactures directions, and if their is anyone out their looking for easy money from a lawsuit, this is it. Besides, who has a readily available hoisting device to perform this correctly in the first place?
rho1782 2 years ago
Wow. "we do not use this device correctly per the manufactures directions."
Are you talking about all KEDs ??
chodykumbra 2 years ago
Im talking about, unless you secure this device to the patient properly, cut and remove the roof, and use a hoisting device to remove the patient straight up out of the vehicle, then no we don't use these devices correctly. These were immobalization devices, designed to be used with open capsule (indy/formula 1) racing vehicles. I'm also referring to the green KED's that are used for the NREMT testing.
Thanks,
Roger
NREMT-P
National Indy Car Circuit Rescue Medic
rho1782 2 years ago
At 8:00 why dont the straps cross in an X over the sholders for the torso... The straps are long enough.
MattFerguson26 2 years ago
What is DCAP-BTLS ?
brabham69 2 years ago
It stands for Deformities, Contusion, Abrasions, Punctures-Burns, Tenderness, Lacerations, Swelling. Basically you are looking for anything abnormal.
UFB85 2 years ago
deformaties contusion abrasions punctures/pentrations burns tenderness laceration swelling
tymyshwo 2 years ago
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crazlil8on 3 years ago
what about palpating the back during the roll and checking for DCAP-BTLS...is that an assumed thing or what?
alexwoot5106 3 years ago
am i confused or arent you supposed to check PMS before and after backboarding as well?
ufpd1881 3 years ago
Interestingly, in our area, we criss-cross the torso straps. However, in this video, both straps were across the patient (as it was done MANY years ago). If I were to do this in this area, I would be accused of improper immobilization.
Is the standard in National Registry as shown in the video?
deratristar 3 years ago
Remember that it is a good idea to assess for DCAP-BTLS on the back side of the patient as the log roll is being performed; as this could be your last chance to do so before the patient reaches the trauma center.
JohnnyFlightMedic 3 years ago
he also didnt check her pulse. he forgot the P in PMS.
XavierDuFermier 4 years ago
yea i think he needs to do all for extremities
steel220 3 years ago
They forgot to check her back before rolling back onto the board !!!! VERY BAD
ericferretboy 4 years ago
Did he forget to size the collar, or am I just going insane?
OnlyAshRemains15 4 years ago
You are correct. However I am assuming that US Qualification would dictate that they would know this already, and have taken it as done.
StJohn12Care 4 years ago
That and most people are "no neck" anyways.
teratogen42 3 years ago
Hahaha, I was just about to say that.
StephyDizzle 3 years ago
this is what they say bread and butter stuff
ezi3kel 4 years ago
thanx!!!
great video a lot of help 4 a student like me :]
camuco 4 years ago