This movie is so great in many ways. It's a pity that the director Marie-Straub decided to cut off this prelude in the middle (there are a few more pages worth of prelude after the measure where Leonhardt plays the "ending" cadence).
I can't find a web link, but there should be a reference to this in either a detailed account of Bach's life or in a good edition of his Organ Preludes and Fugues.
Try enjoying music and their respective performers. Bach had relatively no tempo or performance notes at all in his compositions.. which was not highly uncommon for those days (who ever wishes to do some research!). All versions and interpretations are subject to one's own ear and prediction of how a piece should be played. Koopman, Fox, Leonhardt... have not been GREAT? And for those who bash Fox for "entertainment" value..Mozart
There are performances in the ancient and in the new style; there is freedom that must be married with the ancient style, Decoratio, appropriate technique and applikaturen to sound truly Baroque (Koopman is the better example) and freedom in the modern way that is called anachronism: Fox was a nice entertainer and an excellent performer that used to play in a free, non-ancient, anachronistic style with modern technique and instruments full of modern aids.
Fox was not cheap, he understands music, something that the most musicians now the days don't do. They are only busy with one thing: counting and reading of notes... That is not making music, that is making mathematics...
For a real good Leonhardt performance that could give justice to His fame, I suggest to listen to His superb performances of J.S.Bach organworks on Seon label (recorded in 1972-73 on the magnificent Christiaan Müller of Waalse Kerk Amsterdam organ, restored by J.Ahrend with its original J.G.Neidhardt temperament at a'= 465 pitch). That is a true delight and contains the best prototype of a true Baroque style interpretation of Toccata e Fuga in re minore BWV565.
The best true Baroque style Toccata und Fugue in D minor BWV565 are these: Koopman (two different versions on Teldec, one on Novalis, one on Archiv and just the Toccata on Dvd Euroarts), Leonhardt (Seon/Sony), Harald Vogel (Organeum/Loft), Jacques van Oortmerssen (Vanguard/Challenge/Arcade), Hans Fagius (Bis/Brilliant), Bernard Foccroulle (Ricercar), Wolfgang Ruebsam (Naxos) and J.S.Whiteley (BBC Dvd, this very good performance is ruined by the terrible modern organ sound).
For sure not according to Virgil Fox, Symphonic or Romantic organ lovers... And for sure not according to all those that have certain level of cofusion about what "Baroque" means... Probably including these "others"...
I think that awful meaning, that Dutch organist are the best to play bach, has to be to an end. What is the matter with you people? I think there is nothing wrong with fox. And think: it was more dan 30 years ago> Other knowledge about this music!! So don't make this conclusion, it is sad to read!
Fox was an entertainer, a showman "and" a modern business musician and that's could be good for a good mass-show, but there are people who like "just" Baroque/Renaissance muscians and nothing else, no cheap shows...
Typical performance of the good old Leonhardt, as always not bold enough for freeing Himself of His (non-Baroque) rhetoric and instead express Himself in the freedom of true Baroque practice schemes.
If (the real) J.S.Bach would had played like this, for sure He would have been forgot by history since a long, long time ago. Thanks to God, this was just a typical pretentious experimental movie of the mid-Sixties...
He was forgotten. Did you not read the accounts that said one could scarecely see Bach's fingers move? I'm sure he'd have no time for all those parlour tricks.
I agree, J.S.Bach Himself was so superior to the Others that He was forgotten because Others were not enough intelligent to understand Him. On the other side, Leonhardt and many of the today so called "authentic school" are the typical example of "moving so fast that they look still", the problem is that actually Their fingers are so unskilled (compared to Baroque era witnesses standards) that are almost still for real...
There ought to be a more modern film made about Bach really. Various people have made features on mozart and beethoven but not Bach. I suppose it would be impossible to find a performer that can perform in the way Bach did.
ludwig123456789 is an idiot and talking out of his ass so dont pay attention to him. I believe its on a Silbermann, the movie clip is taken from the movie "Chronicle Of Anna Magdalena Bach"
The trim around the console looks different in the Petrikirche. It's evidently a typical medium sized G Silbermann church organ. Sounds as if it lacks a 16' on the manuals; of course it's probably been fiddled around with and 'improved' since the time this video was made.
This video is incomplete and obviously GUstav must want you to think that he wrote this piece which he did not . The full work has been cut short and it is a shame that it was not permitted to continue.
recalling many Bach slow movements of, I believe the slower movements contained 32nd notes very often.
ears61 3 weeks ago
The way people dressed was much nicer back then... Today guys wear pink t-shirts...
VicodinAddicted 4 months ago
What 5 lunatics disliked this video? Cretins!
zinpgh 9 months ago
@zinpgh 5 people can't appreciate a good Baroque interpretation :D!
britandveg 7 months ago
@britandveg five people are retards
VicodinAddicted 4 months ago
Increible, solo que no esta completa. Pero aún así fue un arranque estupendo.
jogomez1988 2 years ago
Who's the lady with the bad hair doo?
PiedPuyper 2 years ago
Una sola pregunta. ¿Eres estúpido, idiota o que?
jogomez1988 2 years ago
Wow is like going back in time and actually seeing Bach playing!!!!!. Amazing.
eddiemperor 2 years ago 3
This movie is so great in many ways. It's a pity that the director Marie-Straub decided to cut off this prelude in the middle (there are a few more pages worth of prelude after the measure where Leonhardt plays the "ending" cadence).
streek23 3 years ago
According to the liner notes to this DVD it was filmed in the church of St. Sophie, Dresden
Dreode 3 years ago
This guy looks just like how I picture Bach in my head playing the "Queen of all instruments," his specialty. :) Great performance!
I want to get clothes like that! Haha!
GMJ7 4 years ago 6
Same, except I think of him as a little fatter :P
Terrdemarzielle 3 years ago 2
I think Bach had played this prelude more faster.
geheimnisvolle 3 years ago
I don't. This prelude has a very majestic style - and of course it was written for a funeral.
Terrdemarzielle 3 years ago
It was written for a funeral?
geheimnisvolle 3 years ago
Yup
Terrdemarzielle 3 years ago
where did you read that? I would like to know more about...
geheimnisvolle 3 years ago
I can't find a web link, but there should be a reference to this in either a detailed account of Bach's life or in a good edition of his Organ Preludes and Fugues.
Terrdemarzielle 3 years ago
@GMJ7 Me, too, i want to get clothes like that, looks awesome! JS Bach Rules!!
adamworth1979 1 year ago
@GMJ7 Organ is known as the "King of All Instruments" not the Queen!
zinpgh 9 months ago
@zinpgh Pish-posh, the sentiment still stands! :)
GMJ7 9 months ago
@GMJ7 lol
zinpgh 9 months ago
Try enjoying music and their respective performers. Bach had relatively no tempo or performance notes at all in his compositions.. which was not highly uncommon for those days (who ever wishes to do some research!). All versions and interpretations are subject to one's own ear and prediction of how a piece should be played. Koopman, Fox, Leonhardt... have not been GREAT? And for those who bash Fox for "entertainment" value..Mozart
AlsatianCousin 4 years ago
There are performances in the ancient and in the new style; there is freedom that must be married with the ancient style, Decoratio, appropriate technique and applikaturen to sound truly Baroque (Koopman is the better example) and freedom in the modern way that is called anachronism: Fox was a nice entertainer and an excellent performer that used to play in a free, non-ancient, anachronistic style with modern technique and instruments full of modern aids.
alra1975 4 years ago
vide emozionante.
giufighter 4 years ago
Fox was not cheap, he understands music, something that the most musicians now the days don't do. They are only busy with one thing: counting and reading of notes... That is not making music, that is making mathematics...
paranormaalutrecht 4 years ago 2
For a real good Leonhardt performance that could give justice to His fame, I suggest to listen to His superb performances of J.S.Bach organworks on Seon label (recorded in 1972-73 on the magnificent Christiaan Müller of Waalse Kerk Amsterdam organ, restored by J.Ahrend with its original J.G.Neidhardt temperament at a'= 465 pitch). That is a true delight and contains the best prototype of a true Baroque style interpretation of Toccata e Fuga in re minore BWV565.
alra1975 5 years ago
The best true Baroque style Toccata und Fugue in D minor BWV565 are these: Koopman (two different versions on Teldec, one on Novalis, one on Archiv and just the Toccata on Dvd Euroarts), Leonhardt (Seon/Sony), Harald Vogel (Organeum/Loft), Jacques van Oortmerssen (Vanguard/Challenge/Arcade), Hans Fagius (Bis/Brilliant), Bernard Foccroulle (Ricercar), Wolfgang Ruebsam (Naxos) and J.S.Whiteley (BBC Dvd, this very good performance is ruined by the terrible modern organ sound).
alra1975 5 years ago
You mean the "best true baroque style " according to you. Certainly not according to others.
ISpannonian 4 years ago
For sure not according to Virgil Fox, Symphonic or Romantic organ lovers... And for sure not according to all those that have certain level of cofusion about what "Baroque" means... Probably including these "others"...
alra1975 4 years ago
I think that awful meaning, that Dutch organist are the best to play bach, has to be to an end. What is the matter with you people? I think there is nothing wrong with fox. And think: it was more dan 30 years ago> Other knowledge about this music!! So don't make this conclusion, it is sad to read!
paranormaalutrecht 4 years ago
Fox was an entertainer, a showman "and" a modern business musician and that's could be good for a good mass-show, but there are people who like "just" Baroque/Renaissance muscians and nothing else, no cheap shows...
alra1975 4 years ago
Typical performance of the good old Leonhardt, as always not bold enough for freeing Himself of His (non-Baroque) rhetoric and instead express Himself in the freedom of true Baroque practice schemes.
If (the real) J.S.Bach would had played like this, for sure He would have been forgot by history since a long, long time ago. Thanks to God, this was just a typical pretentious experimental movie of the mid-Sixties...
alra1975 5 years ago
He was forgotten. Did you not read the accounts that said one could scarecely see Bach's fingers move? I'm sure he'd have no time for all those parlour tricks.
ZachariasHildebrandt 5 years ago
I agree, J.S.Bach Himself was so superior to the Others that He was forgotten because Others were not enough intelligent to understand Him. On the other side, Leonhardt and many of the today so called "authentic school" are the typical example of "moving so fast that they look still", the problem is that actually Their fingers are so unskilled (compared to Baroque era witnesses standards) that are almost still for real...
alra1975 5 years ago
...Probably also Marchand and many others would have wished that Bach would have been as good as Leonhardt...
alra1975 5 years ago
loves it
thecritiquevirtuoso 5 years ago
There ought to be a more modern film made about Bach really. Various people have made features on mozart and beethoven but not Bach. I suppose it would be impossible to find a performer that can perform in the way Bach did.
ZachariasHildebrandt 5 years ago
ludwig123456789 is an idiot and talking out of his ass so dont pay attention to him. I believe its on a Silbermann, the movie clip is taken from the movie "Chronicle Of Anna Magdalena Bach"
PraeludiumUndFuge 5 years ago
The trim around the console looks different in the Petrikirche. It's evidently a typical medium sized G Silbermann church organ. Sounds as if it lacks a 16' on the manuals; of course it's probably been fiddled around with and 'improved' since the time this video was made.
ZachariasHildebrandt 5 years ago
Lighten up Ludwig. Is that a silbermann organ?
ZachariasHildebrandt 5 years ago
It is! It looks like the Silbermann in the Petrikirche:
http://www.petri-nikolai-freiberg.de/orgel/orgel_01.jpg
but I don't think it was listed in the movie credits.
lnrd58hstn 5 years ago
more photos:
http://www.petrinikolaifreiberg.de/orgel_3_bilder.html
hope that link works!
lnrd58hstn 5 years ago
The organ with the organist is NOT the organ in the Petrikirche in Freiberg.
The organ in the last few seconds of the movie IS the organ made by Gottfried Silberman in the Petrikirche in Freiberg.
I'm sure, because I'm the creator of www,petri-nikolai-freiberg,de ...
Die Orgel mit dem Organisten ist NICHT die Petrikirchenorgel.
Die Orgel am Ende des Filmes IST die Silbermannorgel in der Petrikirche zu Freiberg.
Ich bin mir sicher, die Seite www,petri-nikolai-freiberg,de ist von mir...
Schlenkerbiene 5 years ago
Thanks for clearing up that mystery - somewhat. The organ facade is obviously that of the Petrikirche. So what organ is Leonhardt actually playing?
lnrd58hstn 5 years ago
This video is incomplete and obviously GUstav must want you to think that he wrote this piece which he did not . The full work has been cut short and it is a shame that it was not permitted to continue.
ludwig123456789 5 years ago
dressed as Bach and everything:D great
Norbeone 5 years ago