Cape Fear 1962/1991 Opening Scenes

[cosmicdingo]

"Hey, Daddy, where does Sam Bowden hang out?" Degenerate hipsterism at it's best.

[obaidCarkey]

already read them!

[Distortion0]

I think the 91 opening is too bombastic. In the 62 version its all on the actor to show how creepy the characters is, the 91 version tries to rely on gimmicks too much.

[dapoetmaster]

Mitchum takes the cake. Mainly because he did 'bad-ass' better than anyone.

[SithLordNefaar022]

I love 1:57 Mitchum's like" WTF you looking @?" lol =P

[SithLordNefaar022]

"Okay Cady, moment you've been waiting for."

I always loved that quote but now.... ONLY now do i feel the real depth of it... Waiting 14 yrs to be told you're free to go...

[cosmicdingo]

You can tell Mitchum's a creep 'cause he doesn't help the lady with her books.

[jhonnies123]

its a gregory peck movie.the script was definitely from peck .david linch directed the film.peck had a smooler part in the film mitchum play his role very good and strong .

[WABDtv]

Nobody does bad like Mitchum.

[bawoman]

I love both for diferent reasons.In the first,Cady is a more realistic villain,which i love,but in the remake,the family is more realisticly potrayed.I truly cant decide,both brilliant films,

[BetoAcapulco]

Bob Patiño!!!

[quornholio]

Here's why Robert Mitchum was infinitely better than DeNiro: There's no way the audience can sympathize with DeNiro. He's just a white trash goon, and the sooner someone offs him, the better.

But Mitchum makes the viewer sympathize with him because, well, because he's Robert Fucking Mitchum, the coolest cat on the planet, and he milks the "Baby, I don't care" thang for all it's worth.

[docksidebum]

@quornholio I sympathised with De Niro. He got gang raped up the butt by white and by black men. I'd be angry too.

[quornholio]

Robert DeNiro with a Southern accent came out more Gomer Pyle than anything else. Totally bad casting in that version. They should have starred Nick Nolte as Max Cady and DeNiro as the nebbishy lawyer.

Otherwise, DeNiro is a great actor.

[SatSao]

Side show BoB for the win !

[NicKingPapiChulo]

i like the simpson's episode where about that movie with Sideshow Bob as Cady the remake of the opening scene is epic with the cloudy sky...

[NatashasWhiteShoes]

i like CF62 better!!!

[swampzoid]

the originals opening scene was filmed in beautiful downtown Savannah and Savannah's city hall.

[hidden3717]

De Niro is the real Max Cady.

[xgs724]

Mitchum and Deniro were equally good

I prefer the second film though, it was just the more entertaining moie overall

the fight sequence with the three thugs was much better and it had more great bits in it

[ca6ko2009]

- What about your books?

- Already read 'em

[zshaw7549]

I was ten years old when I saw the beginning of the 1991 Cape Fear. The intro still freaks me out to this day.

[billthestinker]

Mitchum is superior in his film, orginally Nolte was to play the cady role, he would have been better

[musicfreak1234567]

De Niro is BEAST!!!

[5000433]

Both explore the morality of personal revenge in a civil, judicially based society.

Noltes creation is more flawed, dishonesty although morally arguable, is introduced into the original conviction. In ways it takes the moral maze further than the the 62. Brilliant. Shakespeare couldnt have come up with a better theme. Would love to get the original book.

[5000433]

This is making a big claim but I would say Cape fear 1991 is the best remake in cinematic history. They are unique because both are so strong in their own time. The 1962 version goes as far as the 1991 remake, because of that. A more cynical time like ours needed the dark attraction of the daughter to Max to be explored, with great effect. Both are timeless, they both work. Thats unique.

[iamcrowthisisme]

you guys just wanna see who knows more about this shit theyre both good

[SidJustice1]

Both are brilliant films and have wonderful scores! Mitchum and De Niro kick ass!!

[alexalex3131]

Of course Herrmann's score needed to be rearranged: It's a different movie! Some scenes longer, some shorter, new scenes, different director. If you look at credits for some films, "Arranged by" often given equal prominence with composer. Although I will agree that Herrmann's score so dazzling in itself here, impossible for anyone to really screw it up.

[fabinharaujo]

A Hermmann score never needs to be altered or arranged in any way, as it is pure genius. I disagree with you about Bernstein, as he most definitely had something to prove. Bernstein had to tease Herrmann even after his death by "improving" his music. Childish.

[alexalex3131]

Thoughts: Didn't see title sequence in Scorcese version here which was visually breathtaking. (Bird of prey, etc.). I though Scorcese remake was the way a remake should be made: As good as original, but in signifigantly different way. Bernstein was perfect choice because he didn't need to prove anythng as composer. He just rearranged and rescored Herrmann existing score. I also heard that despite Herrmann's rep as scarey, Bernstein was brave enough to tease him a lot.

[TitusIsaacMaximus]

Well, i have to say, Robert De Niro owns the remake...His involvement with the remake was the only thing that drew me in...

However, he undeniably adapted the smooth bad-ass persona from Robert Mitchum's original portrayal of the character. Somebody mentioned that the original 60's opening sequence was creepier,i Agree! And mitchum had something about him that makes it all the more creepy..Mitchum's stare is just pure madness looking down at you.

I like both versions,but the 60's one was bold!

[TitusIsaacMaximus]

...and groundbreaking

[drippingcunningrunt]

2:02 synchronized motion of Mitchum and janitor to left 2:25 pics of ?, a saint, Patton 2:30 a parachutist; Amazing Randi?; Stalin?; scene of horrifying terror; rectangular cinder blocks; some books; crucifix as a balance of justice, vertical bands of contrasting light and dark, a man getting physically prepared to be released. music. Will US DOJ and US DOD admit committing terrorist actions from 2002 onwards? Admit that the invasion into Iraq was without correct Congressional approval?

[heishirosama]

Scorsese's version is too over the top.

[HanstheGermanButler]

Have you heard the theme music? This was never meant to be subtle.

[heishirosama]

Yes, but the original version isn't that over the top which makes it more serious and less comedic than Scorsese's version.

[Wytchfinde]

I don't find it to be so, but I enjoy both.

Compare either version with Danny Elfman's score for "Red Dragon," which was a pale imitation of Bernard Herman's more sinister works. Now THAT was over the top and melodramatic.

[PepperWhite62]

I think the ending would have been better with one less lawyer in the world. There is always the chance he could begat another lawyer. ~~ kill all the lawyers~ SHAKESPEAR.

[fabinharaujo]

Herrmann is best experienced raw. Not arranged.

Scorseese, despite his reverence for his deceased friend Bernard Herrmann, felt he needed to "fix" the music for his remake in '91.

Decades earlier, Hitchcock did the same thing, thinking he could get by without Herrmann. With that, Hitch's reign on top abruptly ended.

Coincidence? lol.

[LuthorRequiem]

Actually, Scorsese didn't "fix" any of the music for the remake really; most if it is identical and just played with the subtlest of differences when it had to be for tone (example: if one of the tracks in the original had a faster tone than what was going on in the Scorsese version, it makes sense to slow it down and vice versa). The only significantly different music is at the end, when they ran out of Hermman's music because the houseboat scene in the remake is way different.

[samcooke2000]

The Houseboat music is scored by Hermann but for another Hitchcock film; Torn Curtain. It was eventually rejected by Hitchcock.

[romanholiday1988]

The best part of the remake was Bob Deniro. The "everybody is guilty" story of the remake was good but I prefer the victimization of Gregory Peck and his picket-fence family.

The music was better in the original because of Bernard Herrmann.

[na55mo34]

when the remake came to the cinemas i was 16 and impressed.but now..the film with its effects (tattos etc.)is so typical for italian midgets (especially scorseese).mitchum does not need that ,his physical presens is enough..so the original is better.

[richiemonsterking7]

for some reason. i found the 62 version's music much creepier than the remake

[MJRookieRook]

@richiemonsterking7 Maybe you should watch the very beginning of the remake because where this user picked up it wasn't the very first scene

[thEannoyingE]

@richiemonsterking7 I know :) I just watched it last night for the first night in years and it gave me chills. Especially Mitchum's performance, that always gets to me.