wow..i bet you are so proud..great job kids..cant wait until all the political rugs get yanked out from under every janeane garofalo out there..it takes a lot of courage to act as these clownd did..laughs..not ...it takes courage to listen with your eyes and watch the obvious ,certain break down of your "me generation" fade swiftly away. good luck..your going to need it
wow, what a bunch of nutcases. I would never go to Columbia, I'm sure half the protestors went to a mexican party got drunk and had sex with an illegal J-Lo to celebrate there stupidity.
The cowardly ambush by Pres.Bollinger was bush-league.Inviting Mr.Ahmadinejad on the pretext of speaking to an univ.audience, the pres. saw fit to poison the atmosphere by attempting to turn the forum into an inquisition. He made Columbia and the US look like the hostile bullies much of the world perceives them to be-shame on him!
Those accusations that he made should have appeared as questions after the Iranian pres. speech. The students are educated enough to ask these questions themselves.
And as to standing up for the Ku-Klux-Klan if their freedom of speech was violated, I would absolutely. Not because I am "neocon scum" or a "racist bastard," but because I believe in the right to free speech for all. Was it not wrong to attack black protestors and speakers during the Civil Rights Movement simply because their ideas were "unpopular?" Just because you disagree with someone, you have absolutely no right to take away their free speech.
davidy3: How can you say that Mr. Gilchrist's freedom of speech was not violated? Would you continue to speak as a rioting mob charged your stage and overturned your podium while the campus police sat idle? Would you continue to speak if the venue you were addressing erupted into taunts and shouts? No, it would be dangerous and completely unreasonable to do so.
would all you neocon scum stand up for the klu klux klan if their freedom of speech had been violated? (even tho here, it wasn't. students stood on the stage, the Minutemen attacked them) chances are you would want to, you racist bastards, but wouldn't have the balls.
kracer22: yeah, you're right. the decision to abandon your family, your culture, your home and emmigrate to an alien, hostile culture SIMPLY BECAUSE you can't afford food, medicine or shelter is just like showing up uninvited to a party. Illiterate scum like you make me ashamed of being human.
Just for the record, the Minutemen didn't have their "right to free speech violated." Only the govt. can do that. The MM were victims of a near riot, and the Columbia University sponsored event was disrupted. Nothing more. Its unfortunate that Libs can't understand that you can't talk down to people like you have a higher moral standing, then resort to riots, throwing pies, heckling, and disruption of public events. Reasonable people won't take you seriously, and that's what is happening today.
There was a poll taken a few years ago of students at Columbia's school of journalism. Better than 60% of them felt that all corporations in this country should be owned by the government. There's a word for that; Communism. And these are the people who are providing news coverage in newspapers and on television today? That's just great.
these left wing thugss angered me. they are behaving like fascists, shutting down invited speakers by storming the stage and yelling racial slurs. this incident presents a dangerous warning to all of us of the left wing radical movements on campuses accross the u.s!
The only people I saw using violence in this video were the Minutemen. Maybe I'm missing something. I hear the students yelling. I see the students holding a banner on the stage. Then I see a Minuteman tear the banner and hit a student.
No matter what side you're on, no matter what REALLY happened at this event, one mass of people who share a particular strong view, whether or not they are confronting another mass of people who share a differing view, MUST FIGHT EVERY TEMPTATION TO DESCEND INTO MOB BEHAVIOR. At that point, whoever you are, rightist or leftist, you cease to be human and become a #$%@ CHIMPANZEE.
BUILD a WALL w/ surveilance GOD DAMMIT make immigration legal again and the MinuteMen Obsolete! No more dehydrating mexicans no more abuses. Make Mexico responsible for its people, and not a welfare state.
Immigration IS legal, you moron, if you follow the procedure outlined by the country you want to live in. The problem is those who don't feel like obeying the law in their new home. WE are not "dehydrating" Mexicans, they are doing it to themselves. And WE are not abusing them, the coyotes they pay to take them across the border abuse them. Stop spreading propaganda (lies).
Read all my comments before you open your trap.. fool.
I'm against illegal immigration. But I just think at this stage, instead of trying to kick out 12-20 million, the best thing to do is offer amnesty to them, but prevent new ones from coming in.
Amnesty? Sorry, who's the fool now? The best thing is to enforce our border and immigration laws. Then whenever someone is found to be here illegally we send them back. No leases w/o a legal presence, follow-ups on student visas which expire or withdrawals, etc. That's the best thing, fool. This works in tandem with DHS work. There shouldn't be anybody here w/o a record of their presence. According to the DOJ: 1/2 the prison population in CA were illegals, and 17% of Fed prison pop are illegals.
Illegal immigration is like you throwing a party.. and you invite all of your freinds.. and theres always that one guy/gal that has the audacity to invite more than his share of freinds.. without your consent of course. He thinks its no big deal cuz he knows them..you dont want to be rude or say anything cuz you dont want to look bad.. but meanwhile GIN is gone and they aint chipped in.
kracer22: yeah, you're right. the decision to abandon your family, your culture, your home and emmigrate to an alien, hostile culture SIMPLY BECAUSE you can't afford food, medicine or shelter is just like showing up uninvited to a party. Illiterate scum like you make me ashamed of being human.
I hate neocon Republicans...everybody knows that they are the GOP= the gang of pedophiles..and if you are for these republicans you obviously a pedophile too...trying to cover up your leaders' actions (Republicans Hastert and Foley)..Coward pedophiles.
"The gang of pedophiles?" You do realize that the ACLU, the minions of the Left (started by Communists) defends NAMBLA? And they make no apologies for it. NAMBLA is a bunch of pedophiles. Typical Liberal; doesn't know facts, just throws lies about like bombs.
Anyone who was actually at the protest knows what started this in the first place. I agree it was taken out of hand, and those that did it are reaping the consequences. But if you don't know the entire story, don't spout your own bullshit. You should know by now that trusting the media in this country to bring you accurate information is ridiculous. Enjoy your biased, one-sided judgements.
So tell us poor benighted viewers what actually happened. The video seems pretty self-explanatory so what did the lone speaker at the podium do to trigger this choreographed outburst other than to open his mouth? Or was that all that was required?
These are NOT liberals. These are leftists, and the worst kind--YOUNG leftists, which means they are even more certain of the righteousness of their cause but lack the experience and perspective to understand why what they did here was wrong.
They shouldn't be allowed to carry on studying. When I see these people I think Lukashenka had the right idea. He simply kicked the protestors out of college. When I see ignorant goings on like this, I begin to understand why he did that.
Wow. I can't even dignify these lefties by calling them Nazi's. The Nazi's were far more organized ... By the way, where is the outrage and condemnation by peaceful liberals? Or have they gone the way of Santa Clause, and we've been duped into thinking they really exist?
thats ironic, you are calling people that are protesting the minutemen nazis. there is little difference between the minutemen and nazis, both are racism cloaked in patriotism.
i am entirely against any physical protests. but, wasn't it the silence in europe that allowed the nazis to get a strangle hold on germany? if the nazis and racists had been shouted down in europe early on, perhaps the deaths could have been averted.
People who want to summarily remove the right of invited guests to speak to the people who invited them for no other reason than that THEY have decided that they are "racists" "nazis" etc. This is the US not Cuba (whom I'm sure the hypocritical protestors admire) or soviet russia.
did you know that a minority of the people living in the colonies were FOR the revolution? and that these violent people in the minority (the founding fathers) are the ones that wrote the constitution?
nazis were a super-patriotic group that scapegoated outsiders. sounds like the minutemen to me.
Second paragraph: Doesn't sound like the Minutemen to me. The problem is vast number of people breaking the law to get here. It's a complex problem, sure, but addressing the issue directly--i.e., trying to prevent them from getting here is of the very essence of the issue. They also draw attention to the fact that the US southwest is being overwhelmed and none of our politicians seem to give a fuck.
well if the law was more reasonable then they wouldn't be breaking the law, bush's guest worker program, although it is more like slavery, would not make it illegal.
Also, it disturbs me if you think this is some kind of argument for what those little brats did. Because you agree this time, but next time it happens to YOU.
This seems like a non-sequitur to me; not to you, though, I'm sure, because you probably see Gilchrist and Bush (and me as well) as part of the same racist, right-wing monster, forces of intolerance etc. I don't care what you think, but I would defend your right to think and say what you think so long as it doesn't intrude on my co-equal right to be heard.
typical liberal rambling story. Liberalism is based on emotion and irrationality, conservatism on logic. I just hope your vagina doesn't hurt too much.
You're the racist, by labeling the Minutemen as Nazis. Nazis believed they were the master race, and felt others needed to die or be subjugated. The Minutemen are Americans who want the flood of illegal immigration to stop so we can control the number of people coming here, the basic right and obligation of a sovereign nation. Do you let people into your house without your knowledge or consent? How about if I come over one night when you're asleep and make myself at home?
I find it funny people think Columbia's relative location in Manhattan, as opposed to its elite status, impacts its politics more.
johnbernardkenney 1 month ago
Liberals hate free speech
lafontaine13 2 months ago
okay, obviously they are not stoppign free speech, rather they are exercising their first amendment rights. they got their message out obviously.
p.s. i don't see ANY violence.
reillyinfamous 2 years ago
wow..i bet you are so proud..great job kids..cant wait until all the political rugs get yanked out from under every janeane garofalo out there..it takes a lot of courage to act as these clownd did..laughs..not ...it takes courage to listen with your eyes and watch the obvious ,certain break down of your "me generation" fade swiftly away. good luck..your going to need it
runalonglilone 2 years ago
wow, what a bunch of nutcases. I would never go to Columbia, I'm sure half the protestors went to a mexican party got drunk and had sex with an illegal J-Lo to celebrate there stupidity.
krist300 4 years ago
Their fuckin liberals they don't play by the damn rules, i'll see them in hell.
CplJohnson3 4 years ago
considering columbia's location 120th+, this is not surprising to me at all.
fengfu 4 years ago
I posted the speech by Iran's President today.
OSIDEGANGBUSTER 4 years ago
The cowardly ambush by Pres.Bollinger was bush-league.Inviting Mr.Ahmadinejad on the pretext of speaking to an univ.audience, the pres. saw fit to poison the atmosphere by attempting to turn the forum into an inquisition. He made Columbia and the US look like the hostile bullies much of the world perceives them to be-shame on him!
Those accusations that he made should have appeared as questions after the Iranian pres. speech. The students are educated enough to ask these questions themselves.
spittlebits 4 years ago
What an embarrassment for Columbia.
DannyP255 4 years ago
Lol hippie losers
selmetell33 4 years ago
"My freedom of speach was violated when i was tring to tell people Blacks and Muslims have no freedom of speech."
No freedom to fascism.
zengingok 5 years ago
And as to standing up for the Ku-Klux-Klan if their freedom of speech was violated, I would absolutely. Not because I am "neocon scum" or a "racist bastard," but because I believe in the right to free speech for all. Was it not wrong to attack black protestors and speakers during the Civil Rights Movement simply because their ideas were "unpopular?" Just because you disagree with someone, you have absolutely no right to take away their free speech.
grambo30 5 years ago
davidy3: How can you say that Mr. Gilchrist's freedom of speech was not violated? Would you continue to speak as a rioting mob charged your stage and overturned your podium while the campus police sat idle? Would you continue to speak if the venue you were addressing erupted into taunts and shouts? No, it would be dangerous and completely unreasonable to do so.
grambo30 5 years ago
would all you neocon scum stand up for the klu klux klan if their freedom of speech had been violated? (even tho here, it wasn't. students stood on the stage, the Minutemen attacked them) chances are you would want to, you racist bastards, but wouldn't have the balls.
davidy3 5 years ago
kracer22: yeah, you're right. the decision to abandon your family, your culture, your home and emmigrate to an alien, hostile culture SIMPLY BECAUSE you can't afford food, medicine or shelter is just like showing up uninvited to a party. Illiterate scum like you make me ashamed of being human.
davidy3 5 years ago
Just for the record, the Minutemen didn't have their "right to free speech violated." Only the govt. can do that. The MM were victims of a near riot, and the Columbia University sponsored event was disrupted. Nothing more. Its unfortunate that Libs can't understand that you can't talk down to people like you have a higher moral standing, then resort to riots, throwing pies, heckling, and disruption of public events. Reasonable people won't take you seriously, and that's what is happening today.
NoGuff 5 years ago
There was a poll taken a few years ago of students at Columbia's school of journalism. Better than 60% of them felt that all corporations in this country should be owned by the government. There's a word for that; Communism. And these are the people who are providing news coverage in newspapers and on television today? That's just great.
NoGuff 5 years ago 2
these left wing thugss angered me. they are behaving like fascists, shutting down invited speakers by storming the stage and yelling racial slurs. this incident presents a dangerous warning to all of us of the left wing radical movements on campuses accross the u.s!
indoUSA 5 years ago
The only people I saw using violence in this video were the Minutemen. Maybe I'm missing something. I hear the students yelling. I see the students holding a banner on the stage. Then I see a Minuteman tear the banner and hit a student.
ATLien912 5 years ago
No matter what side you're on, no matter what REALLY happened at this event, one mass of people who share a particular strong view, whether or not they are confronting another mass of people who share a differing view, MUST FIGHT EVERY TEMPTATION TO DESCEND INTO MOB BEHAVIOR. At that point, whoever you are, rightist or leftist, you cease to be human and become a #$%@ CHIMPANZEE.
vinvan 5 years ago
BUILD a WALL w/ surveilance GOD DAMMIT make immigration legal again and the MinuteMen Obsolete! No more dehydrating mexicans no more abuses. Make Mexico responsible for its people, and not a welfare state.
Kracer22 5 years ago
Immigration IS legal, you moron, if you follow the procedure outlined by the country you want to live in. The problem is those who don't feel like obeying the law in their new home. WE are not "dehydrating" Mexicans, they are doing it to themselves. And WE are not abusing them, the coyotes they pay to take them across the border abuse them. Stop spreading propaganda (lies).
NoGuff 5 years ago
Read all my comments before you open your trap.. fool.
I'm against illegal immigration. But I just think at this stage, instead of trying to kick out 12-20 million, the best thing to do is offer amnesty to them, but prevent new ones from coming in.
Kracer22 5 years ago
Amnesty? Sorry, who's the fool now? The best thing is to enforce our border and immigration laws. Then whenever someone is found to be here illegally we send them back. No leases w/o a legal presence, follow-ups on student visas which expire or withdrawals, etc. That's the best thing, fool. This works in tandem with DHS work. There shouldn't be anybody here w/o a record of their presence. According to the DOJ: 1/2 the prison population in CA were illegals, and 17% of Fed prison pop are illegals.
NoGuff 5 years ago
Illegal immigration is like you throwing a party.. and you invite all of your freinds.. and theres always that one guy/gal that has the audacity to invite more than his share of freinds.. without your consent of course. He thinks its no big deal cuz he knows them..you dont want to be rude or say anything cuz you dont want to look bad.. but meanwhile GIN is gone and they aint chipped in.
Kracer22 5 years ago
kracer22: yeah, you're right. the decision to abandon your family, your culture, your home and emmigrate to an alien, hostile culture SIMPLY BECAUSE you can't afford food, medicine or shelter is just like showing up uninvited to a party. Illiterate scum like you make me ashamed of being human.
davidy3 5 years ago
Shut those idiots DOWN! It seems like the studets were attaked and they should press charges on the MinuteMensos! They better stop that tour ASAP!
nelaloco 5 years ago
Isn't it the other way around? The students didn't want to let the Minutemen have their time to speak, so they basically rioted.
NoGuff 5 years ago
I hate neocon Republicans...everybody knows that they are the GOP= the gang of pedophiles..and if you are for these republicans you obviously a pedophile too...trying to cover up your leaders' actions (Republicans Hastert and Foley)..Coward pedophiles.
waroo3 5 years ago
Are you serious? This has nothing to do with the video. Yet another example of off-the-point pointless attacks on people.
thedeadlyrhythm42 5 years ago
waroo3 demonstrates the last recourse of an exhausted mind.
dropdabig1now 5 years ago
"The gang of pedophiles?" You do realize that the ACLU, the minions of the Left (started by Communists) defends NAMBLA? And they make no apologies for it. NAMBLA is a bunch of pedophiles. Typical Liberal; doesn't know facts, just throws lies about like bombs.
NoGuff 5 years ago 2
"THE WHITE MAN IS MORE CONCERN WITH CHEAP LABOR THAN NATIONAL SECURITY" whitey "YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW"
SIKE01 5 years ago
Anyone who was actually at the protest knows what started this in the first place. I agree it was taken out of hand, and those that did it are reaping the consequences. But if you don't know the entire story, don't spout your own bullshit. You should know by now that trusting the media in this country to bring you accurate information is ridiculous. Enjoy your biased, one-sided judgements.
danielle0192 5 years ago
So tell us poor benighted viewers what actually happened. The video seems pretty self-explanatory so what did the lone speaker at the podium do to trigger this choreographed outburst other than to open his mouth? Or was that all that was required?
1nonanon1 5 years ago 2
I'd like to take a baseball bat to the face of that chick who was emitting that piercing scream over and over.
MosinDisciple 5 years ago
where is the republican outrage to this statement?
rampantlion25 5 years ago
These are NOT liberals. These are leftists, and the worst kind--YOUNG leftists, which means they are even more certain of the righteousness of their cause but lack the experience and perspective to understand why what they did here was wrong.
seans10 5 years ago
We are already screwed, we have Bush as president you moron.
AnamaLe 5 years ago
They shouldn't be allowed to carry on studying. When I see these people I think Lukashenka had the right idea. He simply kicked the protestors out of college. When I see ignorant goings on like this, I begin to understand why he did that.
usenetposts 5 years ago
These are our future leaders,oh man we are screwed
Sanemeraldflame 5 years ago
I hope every high school student sees this and doesn't go to Columbia.
w1ngzer0 5 years ago
These are America's brightest?
kellyeightsix 5 years ago
wtf. cant they protest in a civil and thoughtful, intelligent manner? riot mentality. following the pack. BS.
Spooly 5 years ago
Evidence that liberals are not pacifist !
stresslord 5 years ago
What a bunch of idiots, these Columbia students are.
howlinfish 5 years ago
Wow. I can't even dignify these lefties by calling them Nazi's. The Nazi's were far more organized ... By the way, where is the outrage and condemnation by peaceful liberals? Or have they gone the way of Santa Clause, and we've been duped into thinking they really exist?
ravenhairedmaid 5 years ago
thats ironic, you are calling people that are protesting the minutemen nazis. there is little difference between the minutemen and nazis, both are racism cloaked in patriotism.
i am entirely against any physical protests. but, wasn't it the silence in europe that allowed the nazis to get a strangle hold on germany? if the nazis and racists had been shouted down in europe early on, perhaps the deaths could have been averted.
rampantlion25 5 years ago
Explain how they're racist you douchebag? Enforcing the Constitution of the United States is racist?
sabrescupin06 5 years ago
People who want to summarily remove the right of invited guests to speak to the people who invited them for no other reason than that THEY have decided that they are "racists" "nazis" etc. This is the US not Cuba (whom I'm sure the hypocritical protestors admire) or soviet russia.
seans10 5 years ago
did you know that a minority of the people living in the colonies were FOR the revolution? and that these violent people in the minority (the founding fathers) are the ones that wrote the constitution?
nazis were a super-patriotic group that scapegoated outsiders. sounds like the minutemen to me.
rampantlion25 5 years ago
First paragraph: Yes.
Second paragraph: Doesn't sound like the Minutemen to me. The problem is vast number of people breaking the law to get here. It's a complex problem, sure, but addressing the issue directly--i.e., trying to prevent them from getting here is of the very essence of the issue. They also draw attention to the fact that the US southwest is being overwhelmed and none of our politicians seem to give a fuck.
seans10 5 years ago
well if the law was more reasonable then they wouldn't be breaking the law, bush's guest worker program, although it is more like slavery, would not make it illegal.
rampantlion25 5 years ago
How is it like slavery?
seans10 5 years ago
Also, it disturbs me if you think this is some kind of argument for what those little brats did. Because you agree this time, but next time it happens to YOU.
seans10 5 years ago
you mean like when people are arrested for wearing a tee shirt to a bush speech?
rampantlion25 5 years ago
This seems like a non-sequitur to me; not to you, though, I'm sure, because you probably see Gilchrist and Bush (and me as well) as part of the same racist, right-wing monster, forces of intolerance etc. I don't care what you think, but I would defend your right to think and say what you think so long as it doesn't intrude on my co-equal right to be heard.
seans10 5 years ago
typical liberal rambling story. Liberalism is based on emotion and irrationality, conservatism on logic. I just hope your vagina doesn't hurt too much.
krist300 4 years ago
You're the racist, by labeling the Minutemen as Nazis. Nazis believed they were the master race, and felt others needed to die or be subjugated. The Minutemen are Americans who want the flood of illegal immigration to stop so we can control the number of people coming here, the basic right and obligation of a sovereign nation. Do you let people into your house without your knowledge or consent? How about if I come over one night when you're asleep and make myself at home?
NoGuff 5 years ago