we can only hope.....that he's right. It sounds much more sustainable than what we've got. More fun, too. I've already got my garden in and my guns out.lol
This is so cool, actually..Imagine the whole industrial sector collapses...big business is gone, no cars, ships, aircraft.. no pollution , the government is no more..Now WE form a direct democracy with restructured, ecological, collectively owned industry and economy without monetary system. We can build solar plant and windmills, energy fueled cars..If you work you will have access to everything.. literally
@lucinos19 "i guess phase 6 is mutated humans like these 2 jungle fever fuckheads from nuclear fallout radiation contaminationing with giant alien heads & elongated patrick ewing arms,non-existant dicks & a-cup mosquito-bite,ittie-bittie titties,my fucking GOD man!!!!" - rrrjjjmmm100 Pure genius. it actually pissed me off at the time, now I find it funny.
Some Countries will hit stage 4 and avoid stage 5. Human nature is a huge variable and you cannot predict that every society will fail totally throughout collapse. Some will, after a period of lawlessness, find leadership and sustainability.
America on the other hand, will hit stage 4 with a gun in every household. You people are going to fucking kill each other before you get a chance to lead yourselves out of the shit.
MAKE A MAIN WEBSITE called barter bay make it to where people worldwide can clone that site and make one for their local area, putting the name of their locale in front of the B bay Name and viola..MONEY is not allowed!!...the purpose is for WE THE PEOPLE to have an outlet and a way to use our own talents skills and trades and other resources by trading to get the things we need...KILL THE MONEY VIA THE BARTER..We have to start somewhere...we just dont know where or how...we must brainstorm!
My question is, if the United States collapses then that will set the way for most, if not all, countries that are developed to collapse as well. For example, the United State is in great debt to China, the leader in human resources and everyday goods, climbing above 1.1 trillion and Japan, another leader, isn't far behind. Also, most economies are based on the United States' intake of goods, without the United States spending money other countries won't have anything to spend either.
Stage 3, political collapse, faith that the government will take care of you is lost. isn't that what the republicans are fighting so hard for, stage 3
@wblk From what I can tell the rhetoric from the right in the US is less government... but the reality is (as Jim Rogers calls it) socialism for the rich, aka a mixed economy in favour of corporations. The only Republicans who seem to be consistently anti-big govenment is Ron and Rand Paul IMO.
@LuqmanNaq Seems they are fighting for a very carefully LIMITED set of responsibilities for it, so it will competently carry out that limited set, and accomplish the limitation in a crontrolled manner before it is an uncontrolled failure, but I'm not a Republican, this is my outside observation. Possibly a knowledgable Republican could reply to this commend and take a stab at explaining the Republican take on this matter.
@LuqmanNaq Oh stop the crap, the repubs squealed let the bloated to big to fail, fail, and then of course we see what the Obamaites do, THEY POUR TRILLIONS INTO THE FATTEST CATS THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN, WORLDWIDE, TO COVER UP THEIR HOUSING FOR ETHNIC MINORITY SCAMS THEY LET SLIP OUT OF CONTROL FOR 3 DECADES! NO FANNIE AND FREDDIE, NO LIBTARD BALLOON THE WEALTHIEST COMMODITY KNOWN TO MAN, LAND AND HOUSING ! THE LIBTARDS DESTROYED IT ALL, FORCING EVERYONE TO BE A CRIMINAL !
@Silicondoc I am a republican, and you are exactly right. What you are missing is the Democrats to it as well. have you niticed there is no real difference in policy from one administration to the next? When we fail, we say you held us back. When you fail, you say we held you back. The truth is you and I want the same things, but our political party establishments want something different. They are not actually failing, we just have been blind to their goals. Ron Paul may be our only way out.
@robodril1 Apparently you misread my post. Try again. As far as Ron Paul being the way out, he has to change the entire Congress under your theory... and of course you claim they are "one party" anyway. The Congress has been split near 50/50 for well over a decade, and no party has even had a simple 60 filibuster (Senate) breaking majority, let alone the 67% required to do what they want to a small degree(override veto), nor the 75%+ required for treaty changes, in EITHER house.
Believing that big government should be smaller and less intrusive is not the same as wanting the government to totally collapse. Smaller government is something that all freedom loving people should seek.
@TravellerFellow Thanks for your perspective. Of all the 'first world countries' I agree that the US seems likely that the collapse will have bloody repercussions. I hope the people there are more aware of the government propaganda regarding the economy than the people in the UK are. It seems many here believe the 'recovery' BS.
@infowolf1 Fascism leaves the of title and illusion of ownership- you still own it, but they CONTROL it, and this is in essence a license to tax you. Communism does violence to property, by seizing it in the name of the people. Fascism does not- they do violence to the MEANING of ownership.
@infowolf1 that depends, if it gets really bad the banks cannot afford to hire the people to enforce the eviction and the banks would only lose money by doing so bc the house would have NO market value anyway. We already have squatters living in unsold mansions all over the place it shows up in the news...see a empty mansion? Just go ahead an move in for a while! ha
@Gorilasparks lol I've got some o' them heirloom seeds. I dont have much in the way of gold... 4 troy ounces... and I have about 200 silver eagles. I hope that'll be enough to get me by.
I have a food pantry... very very similar to a guy named Safe Arms Review... check him out. He talks a lot about food storage.
Stage four and stage five may happen but are unlikely as recent history has shown what humans are willing to sacrifice in order to help out others. Even if I was starving I would help out my family and closest friends in order to survive.
@TravellerFellow Orlov lived - and lives - in the US but frequently travelled to and lived in the USSR pre and post collapse. It's Ok if you disagree with his model, I personally think it is accurate and the stages he outlined are being played out on a global scale. What stage or stages within the model do you think is inaccurate? You seem to disagree with him attempting to create a model of societal collapse based on historical examples (he studied more than just the USSR), why?
@TravellerFellow It's simply a theory of how modern socities collapse by Dmitry Orlov. I disagree that it's an armchair theory, Orlov began talking about the collapse of the US and this theory, pre '08 meltdown. He also personally witnessed the collapse of the USSR. I think this broad model can be shown to be pretty accurate when put alongside our current global financial situation, I think that stage 1 (people losing faith in the financial sector) is almost complete, Stage 2 + 3 have began.
Then new world order will be established and all these stupid stages won't happen and the Un will stop any collapse and bill gates will save us and give us cash
@987654321330078 You simply have to look at the economic stucture, oil production costs, and food inventory shortages to see that collapse is imminent. The NWO may be established, but not before a societal collapse takes place. They can't chage these fundamental problem, and aren't attempting to. Those at the highest level of government knew a collapse was coming, that's why they go to war for resources, usurp civil liberties, and transferred the debt from the financial sector to the Taxpayers.
our earth life is close to hell in a way. All all of us do is face seemingly endless problems on many scales. It can be hard to find a good reason to live soemtimes. No matter how much knowledge money or power one has they suffer in some way. Sad. Is this humanities reason for existence, to suffer? I think if we all die it may be a way out of suffering.
@shutdowncity007 I don't think it will get to 5 personally, I believe it will be at 3 for most parts of the world and 4 in other parts. This stuff may sound extreme to some, but our economies are interconnected and the dominos are falling.
i guess phase 6 is mutated humans like these 2 jungle fever fuckheads from nuclear fallout radiation contaminationing with giant alien heads & elongated patrick ewing arms,non-existant dicks & a-cup mosquito-bite,ittie-bittie titties,my fucking GOD man!!!!
@rrrjjjmmm100 You believe that Ben Bernake is going to save you. If you don't believe that a complete global collapse of the financial sector in 08 that was only saved by government intervention (self admitted by the gov), and billions of dollars 'stimulus' annually for it to be kept propped up, isn't the sign of a seriously flawed economy... Good luck to you.
@rrrjjjmmm100 phase 6 is aftermath, and the painfully slow natural forming of new economic and political systems in the context of the howling anarchy that is the end of 5.
Bring it BITCH, Let's get the party started. But you hedge fund fucks, you short sellers, and you globalist fucksticks had better hide good because we are coming and we don't take any prisoners. How dare you mismanage this free system in your attempt at global dominance, it is now going to bite you in the ass for your pretty paper with pictures on it won't be worth shit. Best leave US now. This place won't tolerate you sissys when shit hits the fan
@irishslave51 It's the government that is responsible for the current crisis, not the capitalists.You're buying into the governments attempt to shift blame. Most of the debt that western countries have built up has nothing whatsoever to do with the banking crisis; which itself was caused by policies of the Clinton administration.Western countries have been living beyond their means for years now, but too craven to admit the fact to their electorates. High taxes have also stifled economic growth.
@iknownothingnow True.. however the plus side is that more people can wake up to the reality... if it crashes too fast people will panic. Michael Ruppert made the point that if the crash is fast, infrastructure will remain, because if it's too slow cutbacks on maintenance will occur. Stage 3 is the scariest one in my opinion. How are you preparing?
@LuqmanNaq Yes, I too watch Michael Ruppert. I'm at a loss of what its take to wake people up. The % is increasing but every slow slowly.
I don't believe I have prepared enough. However I have food to last several months, cash, gold, farm land. I am not exposed to bank or market failures.
It would be tough but I may be able to get by for at least a year.
@iknownothingnow Your more prepared than most. I only work part-time, and have a wife. So far getting some old injuries sorted (before it gets really bad), thermal clothing, silver, and selling non-essential things. Gonna start stacking up on tinned food/rations, solar/wind up appliances and re-training in boxing + escrima. I'm trying to get an accurate local model of what post collapse will be like to prepare properly because I live in the city, and my mum won't leave - her parents are here.
@LuqmanNaq If you don't read Chris Martenson's web site, I would recommend it. He has a wealth of current news as well as how to prepare. Best wishes.
@iknownothingnow Thank you for that recommendation, brilliant site. Thank God I got out of debt a few years ago, that is a very important point to promote though. It's true what you say - guess, it won't be accurate anyway. I wish more people would wake up though, far to many people are in that 'unsinkable ship' mentality in the UK. I think there are more people awake in the US.
we can only hope.....that he's right. It sounds much more sustainable than what we've got. More fun, too. I've already got my garden in and my guns out.lol
flowertheclown 1 week ago
oh there will be warlords...can you say...the japanese sengoku period!
DoctorKillamassaLOGS 3 weeks ago
makes no sense.
hashpuppy101 1 month ago
This is so cool, actually..Imagine the whole industrial sector collapses...big business is gone, no cars, ships, aircraft.. no pollution , the government is no more..Now WE form a direct democracy with restructured, ecological, collectively owned industry and economy without monetary system. We can build solar plant and windmills, energy fueled cars..If you work you will have access to everything.. literally
Nenadnash 3 months ago
Stage 6.
People lose their minds and go Apeshit Mental!!!
failblorg 3 months ago
no zombies?!?!?!
mbravo00 3 months ago
I predict open war.
hdrusersdotcom 3 months ago
stage six, zombies come out and eat brains.
lucinos19 5 months ago 3
@lucinos19 Somebody already did a better troll job on stage 6
LuqmanNaq 5 months ago
@LuqmanNaq really? Who?
lucinos19 5 months ago
@lucinos19 "i guess phase 6 is mutated humans like these 2 jungle fever fuckheads from nuclear fallout radiation contaminationing with giant alien heads & elongated patrick ewing arms,non-existant dicks & a-cup mosquito-bite,ittie-bittie titties,my fucking GOD man!!!!" - rrrjjjmmm100 Pure genius. it actually pissed me off at the time, now I find it funny.
LuqmanNaq 5 months ago 2
im on my way to germany in two years, i hope i can get there in time.....
Elburro991051 5 months ago
Ahhhh terrible text to speech program. It hurts....
lyssajobi 5 months ago
Some Countries will hit stage 4 and avoid stage 5. Human nature is a huge variable and you cannot predict that every society will fail totally throughout collapse. Some will, after a period of lawlessness, find leadership and sustainability.
America on the other hand, will hit stage 4 with a gun in every household. You people are going to fucking kill each other before you get a chance to lead yourselves out of the shit.
Shame, some of you yanks were alright :P
moonsugar1 5 months ago
Poindexter is gonna score tonight
DancingSpiderman 5 months ago
pool resources
smedheat 5 months ago
THATS IT! im moving to Japan
xMrxSaitou 5 months ago
I am going to become a fucking warlord!
tmpfan2 6 months ago 20
@tmpfan2
hell yeah me too!
Warsie 6 months ago
@tmpfan2 WARLORDS FUCKING OWN! FUCK YEA
xMrxSaitou 5 months ago
@tmpfan2 We need a Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Jian.
anythingnew 5 months ago
me too!
flowertheclown 1 week ago
I love cartoons!
CoryThe411 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
MAKE A MAIN WEBSITE called barter bay make it to where people worldwide can clone that site and make one for their local area, putting the name of their locale in front of the B bay Name and viola..MONEY is not allowed!!...the purpose is for WE THE PEOPLE to have an outlet and a way to use our own talents skills and trades and other resources by trading to get the things we need...KILL THE MONEY VIA THE BARTER..We have to start somewhere...we just dont know where or how...we must brainstorm!
willworkforhorses 6 months ago
Post collapse World = Fallout 3 without radioactive waste.
90talisten 6 months ago
I have seen this already. America is going full throttle through them.
BlueStateChronicle 7 months ago
fallout 3...
1x93cm 8 months ago
@1x93cm
I rather be dead than to play a real life Fallout 3 XD
mrcrysis456 6 months ago
@mrcrysis456 aww c'mon....chances are- you'll never even hear the bullet that gets you....
1x93cm 6 months ago
@1x93cm
Whatever, I'd rather dissipate to atom sized bits than to fight against ghouls, nightkin, and the Steel Brotherhood of homos...
mrcrysis456 6 months ago
@SLINGSBYFIREFLY dumbass
megatrollwarlock 9 months ago
My question is, if the United States collapses then that will set the way for most, if not all, countries that are developed to collapse as well. For example, the United State is in great debt to China, the leader in human resources and everyday goods, climbing above 1.1 trillion and Japan, another leader, isn't far behind. Also, most economies are based on the United States' intake of goods, without the United States spending money other countries won't have anything to spend either.
Caleb5617 9 months ago
@Caleb5617 That wasn't a question.
megatrollwarlock 9 months ago
@megatrollwarlock And that isn't an answer.
Caleb5617 9 months ago
@Caleb5617 Doh. How can I answer a non-question?
megatrollwarlock 9 months ago
@megatrollwarlock By questioning a non-question, you answer with a non-answer therefore creating a parodox. I respect you for that.
Caleb5617 9 months ago
Stage 3, political collapse, faith that the government will take care of you is lost. isn't that what the republicans are fighting so hard for, stage 3
wblk 10 months ago
@wblk From what I can tell the rhetoric from the right in the US is less government... but the reality is (as Jim Rogers calls it) socialism for the rich, aka a mixed economy in favour of corporations. The only Republicans who seem to be consistently anti-big govenment is Ron and Rand Paul IMO.
LuqmanNaq 10 months ago 9
@LuqmanNaq Seems they are fighting for a very carefully LIMITED set of responsibilities for it, so it will competently carry out that limited set, and accomplish the limitation in a crontrolled manner before it is an uncontrolled failure, but I'm not a Republican, this is my outside observation. Possibly a knowledgable Republican could reply to this commend and take a stab at explaining the Republican take on this matter.
deliberatus 9 months ago
@LuqmanNaq Ron pual is NOT a republican. =/
tokkenn 7 months ago
@LuqmanNaq Oh stop the crap, the repubs squealed let the bloated to big to fail, fail, and then of course we see what the Obamaites do, THEY POUR TRILLIONS INTO THE FATTEST CATS THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN, WORLDWIDE, TO COVER UP THEIR HOUSING FOR ETHNIC MINORITY SCAMS THEY LET SLIP OUT OF CONTROL FOR 3 DECADES! NO FANNIE AND FREDDIE, NO LIBTARD BALLOON THE WEALTHIEST COMMODITY KNOWN TO MAN, LAND AND HOUSING ! THE LIBTARDS DESTROYED IT ALL, FORCING EVERYONE TO BE A CRIMINAL !
Silicondoc 5 months ago
@Silicondoc OK ???
LuqmanNaq 5 months ago
@Silicondoc OK ???
LuqmanNaq 5 months ago
@Silicondoc OK ???
LuqmanNaq 5 months ago
@Silicondoc I am a republican, and you are exactly right. What you are missing is the Democrats to it as well. have you niticed there is no real difference in policy from one administration to the next? When we fail, we say you held us back. When you fail, you say we held you back. The truth is you and I want the same things, but our political party establishments want something different. They are not actually failing, we just have been blind to their goals. Ron Paul may be our only way out.
robodril1 3 months ago
@robodril1 Apparently you misread my post. Try again. As far as Ron Paul being the way out, he has to change the entire Congress under your theory... and of course you claim they are "one party" anyway. The Congress has been split near 50/50 for well over a decade, and no party has even had a simple 60 filibuster (Senate) breaking majority, let alone the 67% required to do what they want to a small degree(override veto), nor the 75%+ required for treaty changes, in EITHER house.
Silicondoc 2 months ago
@wblk
Believing that big government should be smaller and less intrusive is not the same as wanting the government to totally collapse. Smaller government is something that all freedom loving people should seek.
Jorient405 9 months ago
@wblk they want a small government and no gun control. They want less government tat means less dependency on the government.
therealskipy 9 months ago
@TravellerFellow Thanks for your perspective. Of all the 'first world countries' I agree that the US seems likely that the collapse will have bloody repercussions. I hope the people there are more aware of the government propaganda regarding the economy than the people in the UK are. It seems many here believe the 'recovery' BS.
LuqmanNaq 10 months ago
@TravellerFellow How do you think it will play out (genuine question)? And how is the state of the economy affecting your city?
LuqmanNaq 10 months ago
I love this
StillnessinMotion 11 months ago
Russia had an advantage, the people lived in houses owned by
the government, and so were not evicted to starve and freeze
and live without doors to bar against attackers. Americans have
a different situation, except for those who have no mortgage
on their properties, but still have to pay taxes and could be
evicted for non payment of this.
infowolf1 11 months ago
@infowolf1 Fascism leaves the of title and illusion of ownership- you still own it, but they CONTROL it, and this is in essence a license to tax you. Communism does violence to property, by seizing it in the name of the people. Fascism does not- they do violence to the MEANING of ownership.
deliberatus 9 months ago
@infowolf1 that depends, if it gets really bad the banks cannot afford to hire the people to enforce the eviction and the banks would only lose money by doing so bc the house would have NO market value anyway. We already have squatters living in unsold mansions all over the place it shows up in the news...see a empty mansion? Just go ahead an move in for a while! ha
Gloomshadow1 8 months ago
I like food.
dunklersoldat 1 year ago
@dunklersoldat I feel for you b/c in the next 10 years you wont have enought to survive....or the physical money(Gold) to pay for it....
Gorilasparks 1 year ago
@Gorilasparks lol I've got some o' them heirloom seeds. I dont have much in the way of gold... 4 troy ounces... and I have about 200 silver eagles. I hope that'll be enough to get me by.
I have a food pantry... very very similar to a guy named Safe Arms Review... check him out. He talks a lot about food storage.
dunklersoldat 1 year ago
Stage four and stage five may happen but are unlikely as recent history has shown what humans are willing to sacrifice in order to help out others. Even if I was starving I would help out my family and closest friends in order to survive.
venuecam 1 year ago
sounds like we probably should have thought through invading IRAQ.
xpez 1 year ago
@TravellerFellow Orlov lived - and lives - in the US but frequently travelled to and lived in the USSR pre and post collapse. It's Ok if you disagree with his model, I personally think it is accurate and the stages he outlined are being played out on a global scale. What stage or stages within the model do you think is inaccurate? You seem to disagree with him attempting to create a model of societal collapse based on historical examples (he studied more than just the USSR), why?
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@TravellerFellow It's simply a theory of how modern socities collapse by Dmitry Orlov. I disagree that it's an armchair theory, Orlov began talking about the collapse of the US and this theory, pre '08 meltdown. He also personally witnessed the collapse of the USSR. I think this broad model can be shown to be pretty accurate when put alongside our current global financial situation, I think that stage 1 (people losing faith in the financial sector) is almost complete, Stage 2 + 3 have began.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
This dude is a knuckle dragger and talks like he knows stuff:)
skudlick 1 year ago
@skudlick Ad hominem isn't an argument. If you would like to attempt to correct my analysis of the current state of the economy please go ahead.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago 4
@LuqmanNaq Jesus... put the troll food away.
Sheesh...
nazaxprime 1 year ago
where is this link it talks about?
wordman777 1 year ago
@wordman777 in the description box.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
So I'm supposed to take advice from a robot?
ManicEightBall 1 year ago
@ManicEightBall lol
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
We're going back to feudalism...
StuPedassle711 1 year ago
I wonder if this is the beginning of the Second Dark Age...
StuPedassle711 1 year ago 4
Then new world order will be established and all these stupid stages won't happen and the Un will stop any collapse and bill gates will save us and give us cash
987654321330078 1 year ago
@987654321330078 You simply have to look at the economic stucture, oil production costs, and food inventory shortages to see that collapse is imminent. The NWO may be established, but not before a societal collapse takes place. They can't chage these fundamental problem, and aren't attempting to. Those at the highest level of government knew a collapse was coming, that's why they go to war for resources, usurp civil liberties, and transferred the debt from the financial sector to the Taxpayers.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
I HATE IT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD THING IS THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD IS EITHER JUST AS BAD OR WORSE!!!! WELCOME TO HELL PEOPLE!!!!
goldenknight777 1 year ago 3
our earth life is close to hell in a way. All all of us do is face seemingly endless problems on many scales. It can be hard to find a good reason to live soemtimes. No matter how much knowledge money or power one has they suffer in some way. Sad. Is this humanities reason for existence, to suffer? I think if we all die it may be a way out of suffering.
cheemooo 1 year ago
im not sure that stage 5 would perpetuate or even precipitate.. even during famines families or communities dont collapse
strasheep 1 year ago
God help us if stage 5 comes... the other stages are bad enough but...
shutdowncity007 1 year ago
@shutdowncity007 I don't think it will get to 5 personally, I believe it will be at 3 for most parts of the world and 4 in other parts. This stuff may sound extreme to some, but our economies are interconnected and the dominos are falling.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
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shutdowncity007 1 year ago
i guess phase 6 is mutated humans like these 2 jungle fever fuckheads from nuclear fallout radiation contaminationing with giant alien heads & elongated patrick ewing arms,non-existant dicks & a-cup mosquito-bite,ittie-bittie titties,my fucking GOD man!!!!
rrrjjjmmm100 1 year ago 5
@rrrjjjmmm100 You believe that Ben Bernake is going to save you. If you don't believe that a complete global collapse of the financial sector in 08 that was only saved by government intervention (self admitted by the gov), and billions of dollars 'stimulus' annually for it to be kept propped up, isn't the sign of a seriously flawed economy... Good luck to you.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@rrrjjjmmm100 And dont forget they talk like robots!!!
lizzardking777 1 year ago 2
@rrrjjjmmm100 phase 6 is aftermath, and the painfully slow natural forming of new economic and political systems in the context of the howling anarchy that is the end of 5.
deliberatus 9 months ago
That chick is hot!!!!!
ripperduck 1 year ago 7
Bring it BITCH, Let's get the party started. But you hedge fund fucks, you short sellers, and you globalist fucksticks had better hide good because we are coming and we don't take any prisoners. How dare you mismanage this free system in your attempt at global dominance, it is now going to bite you in the ass for your pretty paper with pictures on it won't be worth shit. Best leave US now. This place won't tolerate you sissys when shit hits the fan
irishslave51 1 year ago
@irishslave51 It's the government that is responsible for the current crisis, not the capitalists.You're buying into the governments attempt to shift blame. Most of the debt that western countries have built up has nothing whatsoever to do with the banking crisis; which itself was caused by policies of the Clinton administration.Western countries have been living beyond their means for years now, but too craven to admit the fact to their electorates. High taxes have also stifled economic growth.
dalriada842 1 year ago
cool ! good work.
perfectscotty 1 year ago
One can only hope that this moves quickly. Otherwise it will feel like the Chinese water torture.
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
@iknownothingnow True.. however the plus side is that more people can wake up to the reality... if it crashes too fast people will panic. Michael Ruppert made the point that if the crash is fast, infrastructure will remain, because if it's too slow cutbacks on maintenance will occur. Stage 3 is the scariest one in my opinion. How are you preparing?
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq Yes, I too watch Michael Ruppert. I'm at a loss of what its take to wake people up. The % is increasing but every slow slowly.
I don't believe I have prepared enough. However I have food to last several months, cash, gold, farm land. I am not exposed to bank or market failures.
It would be tough but I may be able to get by for at least a year.
What about you?
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
@iknownothingnow Your more prepared than most. I only work part-time, and have a wife. So far getting some old injuries sorted (before it gets really bad), thermal clothing, silver, and selling non-essential things. Gonna start stacking up on tinned food/rations, solar/wind up appliances and re-training in boxing + escrima. I'm trying to get an accurate local model of what post collapse will be like to prepare properly because I live in the city, and my mum won't leave - her parents are here.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq Very good. You are not “flat footed” on this.
Another VERY important thing. ZERO DEBT. Own no one. Period. I have been debt free for 10 or more years.
Guess, and that is what it is, that US post collapse will be similar to USSR/Russia. When – is tougher. Guess is within 2 yrs.
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq If you don't read Chris Martenson's web site, I would recommend it. He has a wealth of current news as well as how to prepare. Best wishes.
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
@iknownothingnow Thank you for that recommendation, brilliant site. Thank God I got out of debt a few years ago, that is a very important point to promote though. It's true what you say - guess, it won't be accurate anyway. I wish more people would wake up though, far to many people are in that 'unsinkable ship' mentality in the UK. I think there are more people awake in the US.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago