The answer to this question is in Joshua 24:32. And the bones of Joseph, which the sons of Israel had brought up out of Egypt, they burried at Shekem, in the plot of ground which Jacob had bought from the sons of Hamor the father of Shekem for one hundred qesitah, and which had become an inheritance of the children of Joseph. I think that this is just a seeky atempt to get beleivers in Yahshua to doubt the New Testament.
Jesus died for our Debt ! (Jewish Usury economic's and Romes accountants, today's Roman Jesuit Banksters) at the request of the Talmudic Usury Jew, and by the hand of Rome (Tax man,today's Tax man)...All roads lead to Rome !..Ps, The King James I Bible only ! (Greek Text)..
@shaharmos shw me where it says God gave Abraham the Torah.YHWY gave Moses the Torah 430yrs AFTER He made the PROMISES to Abraham.
The promises were B4 the law.Therefor, the law can NOT disannul the promises. Promises were given to the SEED of Abraham;not SEEDS.That SEED is Christ.All those that believe in Yeshua are counted as seeds of Abraham.Thus,they are children of YHWH and heirs to the promise.If you want your temporary school master,go ahead.I choose the promise by faith Gen15:6
It is written in the Talmud that the interpretations of the Torah 1,000 years ago. And more books written Kabbalah - If you find that the Torah lies you can stop being a Jew
@shaharmos Talmud is man made and does NOT come frm YHWH. Show me anywhere in the Talmud where it says '"Thus saith YHWH" or "and YHWH said" or something similar. Moses came dwn Mt.Sinai with 1 WRITTEN Torah; that's it. Exodus24:4 and Josh8:35 are very clear: all YHWH's words were written down=no such thing as oral Torah ie Talmud. If you would rather listen to what Rabbis say than wht YHWH says, tht's your choice.
I like my Torah without the words of Rashi printed next to the words of YHWH
The Talmud is the interpretation of the Torah by rabbis in previous generations. Read the Talmud and the you find embedded in many verses from the Torah
@SuperDonster Abraham was given the Torah orally by G-d look at Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. The word for "my law's' In Hebrew is "Torah" with a qamits yud suffix (my). My Torah. And because Abraham obeyed G-ds Torah the promise of the seed was given. Therefore Torah came before the promise.
@NatanelYaHu Abraham was accounted righteous long before Gen26:5 due to his FAITH Gen15:6. YHWH gave Abraham promises B4 any law(Gen12:3-4)
And this I say,that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years[430] after,cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. Gal3:17(see verses16-18)
And, Abraham was saved @least13yrs B4 he was circumcised
Therefor, the law came 430yrs after and can not disannul the promises
@SuperDonster No Gen26:5 did take place before Gen12:3 Gen15:6. And I will make thy SEED to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy SEED all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;Gen26:4(and)Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws(the Hebrew is Torah).Gen26:5 notice "Because that" in Gen26:5 What is the Because that referring to?
@NatanelYaHu The seed was promised "because that" Abraham obeyed. But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?James 2:20 Abraham obey the oral torah given by G-d with faith.
@NatanelYaHu yes,Abraham obeyed God's voice when YHWH told him "Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee..." and also when YHWH promised Sarah would have a child; Abraham believed.You're trying to equate Abraham following YHWH's words to the Torah given to Moses on Mt.Sinai,but Abraham's promise was of the Spirit and Moses' covenant,the Torah, is of the flesh ie bondage.This was a schoolmaster until Yeshua,the promise, came
@NatanelYaHu (cont) Christ is the end to righteousness via the law(Rom10:4).All those who put their faith in Yeshua HaMashiach put on his righteousness and are considered the children of God;thus the heirs to the promises given to Abraham. The new covenant is written in our hearts and Yeshua laid them out in the NT. You don't follow the law anyway because you don't have a temple.
And yes, you need the Temple to follow ALL THE LAW
James teaches works are RESULTS of faith,not the other way arnd
@IndianaJesusfreak I personally don't believe the Koran is from G-d but the sister of Aaron is Merriam the Greek and English for Merriam is Marry.The Koran is just using the English.Marry Jesus Mother was Jewish however Marry is not a Hebrew name her Hebrew Bat Mitzvah name was Merriam.
google DIONYSIS myths ALL jesus details are there COPIED ,STOLEN by xtians.google stories similar to jesus all his details in bible are there the greeks copied these and TRINITY myths cos it was only way to get the customers to join who were unwilling to give up trinity and other beliefs for ONE god cos trinity belief was VERY COMMON to the pagans of the area and time
My Gosh, maybe the location of Abraham's tombis where the Bible says and not where people thought?
Josh 24:32 And the bones of Joseph, which the children of Israel brought up out of Egypt, buried they in Shechem, in a parcel of ground which Jacob bought of the sons of Hamor the father of Shechem for an hundred pieces of silver: and it became the inheritance of the children of Joseph.
These are the same words, they mean the same things, it appears this Rabbi doesn't know his Bible as he claims
H7927 שְׁכֶם (šəḵem) Shechem =" back" or "shoulder" n pr m
1.) son of Hamor, the chieftain of the Hivites at Shechem at the time of Jacob's arrival n pr loc
2.) a city in Manasseh; located in a valley between Mount Ebal and Mount Gerizim, 34 miles (54 km) north of Jerusalem and 7 miles (10.5 km) south- east of Samaria
Etymology: the same as H7926, Greek G4966 συχεμ TWOT: 2386b AV- Shechem (61), Sichem (1), Strong's synonym for consent (1); (63)
G4966 Συχέμ (Sukhem) - Sychem (i.e. Shekem), the name of a Canaanite and of a place in Palestine; Etymology: of Hebrew origin (H7927); KJV: Sychem.
G4966 Συχέμ (Sukhem) Shechem =" shoulder (literal early rising): diligence" 1.) a city in Ephraim 2.) the son of Emmor Etymology: of Hebrew origin H7927 שכמה Part of Speech: n pr loc AV- Sychem (City in Ephraim) (1), Sychem (son of Emmor) (1); (2)
you have to be kidding, right? THIS is supposed to disprove the Bible???
G4966 Συχέμ (Sukhem) suchem _ H7926 shekhem
H7926 שְׁכֶם (šəḵem) - the neck (between the shoulders) as the place of burdens; - figuratively, the spur of a hill; Etymology: from H7925; KJV: back, X consent, portion, shoulder.
THOSE ARE THE WORDS USED IN THIS PASSAGE, The Greek word is SUKHEM, it is a translation of the Hebrew H7926 שְׁכֶם (šəḵem)
If the book of Acts was written after 70 AD that doesn't mean that the events took place after 70 AD so the Sandedrin would have still been in existance during those events. I agree with your point about Machpelah however the Bible does not record the burial places for many of the other patriarchs. The bible is clear that Joseph was buried in Shechem however it doesn't say that other patriarchs were not.
Here the Rabbi is only citing the statement made by Stephen, a believer in Jesus, as to where the burial plots were in history, but the statement is made by Stephen according to his own speech, and is not then the word of Jesus. To to say that Stephen combines facts and summarizes to miss the accuracy of details in a long history of burial plots and lands, is a mistaken gesture to attempt to disprove the matter as if Jesus was the one giving the speech. Stephen was not required anything
the Rabbi is totally false. The Messiah is like Moses, the Law was written only in the consonant letters and the Priest of the Anointing of God, the Holy Spirit, must fill in the correct vowels to open the Law and Read it. Thus Messiah has the same power as Moses to Abrogate or Interpret the Law. The Rabbi here is claiming that Jesus Christ could not Interpret the Law so as to be Justified. Jesus is God, Jesus is the fulfiller of the Law. Moses said to obey what Messiah says as Law.
The point about the author writing book a and book b isn't accurate. Think about it, Book b would have been biographical, a totally different style of book all together. Also this guy is so condescending that any argument he has will seem tainted not with an attempt to understand but rather an attempt to be dismissive.
The Jews in their blindness , still overcome with haughtiness , even after their temple was destroyed as Jesus prophesied will happen, even after all the misfortune that has befallen them , they cannot see the wood from the trees, that God is still angry with them. Sad to see them still walking in utter blindness , truly sad. May God save these blind folk !!!!
It will be interesting in the "end" if the "Jews" who carry the instructions of God and the Christians to be the lost ten tribes and at the "end" become the two sticks which will be one which will become the power of God on earth = the army of dry bones that will come alive .... uhmm just saying
i i recieved a book from God and still found out it was wrong...........im still alive right? and he made mme then broklyn could have been changed throught out time
@cryfreeedom Do you want to see what the Vatican is up lately? Yes, in real time, it's only because they have the western media in their pocket, you don't know.
Really if one thing is wrong we should throw it away? Well there are plenty of errors in the torah! so what does Rabbi Mizrachi say to that? Oh yea I know....what the torah really meant was.....or the rabbis explain that...bla bla bla
@SiiKxSnipez Even a Christian knows there will never be a true religion on this earth since religion is made by man. Romans 3:22-24 is pretty clear on mans short comings.
Idk why people change the bible, its sad but christianity is not false, and thats a fact.Jesus was the son of god he had powers and led a sin less life and thats why jews hated him, the torah was changed and thats why god sent jesus to save us
You could find a lot of "errors" in the Torah or Old Testament if you read it with "reason" and "logic", you'll find them. Is not a strong argument. Yeshua is the Messiah! Want to find logic and reason in this affirmation? Well, you're in the wrong place. As God says in the Scriptures,
2Ch 2:2 And Solomon told out threescore and ten thousand men to bear burdens, and fourscore thousand to hew in the mountain, and THREE thousand and SIX hundred to oversee them. 1Ki 5:16 Beside the chief of Solomon's officers which [were] over the work, THREE thousand and THREE hundred, which ruled over the people that wrought in the work.
Explain this to me. because according to this brother we need to throw out 1 kings and 2chronichles.
He works so hard to find & demonstrate errors in other religious books but fails to address his own...You think people don't want to believe and go to heaven (if it existed)? Of course they do, but the fact of the matter is that even the Torah was written by MEN and the God depicted is in man's own image. You can fool gullible people with low intelligence of science but you can't avoid obvious errors in the so called "divine" scripture since God didn't write it or any other book of religion.
This guy fails to mention that even in the Torah you can find numerous mistakes...He also fails to address scientific errors of the Torah in Leviticus 11 that claim Bats are Mammals, Rabbits & Bunnies are Ruminants (chrew their cud), Insects possess 4 Legs, Camels don't have split hooves (even though they do), and why Genesis 14:14 says Abram travels to the city of Dan - which didn't even exist until 300 years later. 5 Examples out of 100's of Torah Errors!
@DannyGrip1 i'm really not interested in debating about religion, but u need to accept that if a religion is truly correct, it's Judaism. to answer your questions, chewing cud was a more technical term back then, those animals did feast on their own dropping for extra nourishment, thus a minimal way of chewing their own cud, just not the same way a modern science explains it. Camels hooves are technically split, but they are not cloven, thus not being kosher.
@mevansmusic Judaism is plagued with misfortunes of contradictions, just like all other religions. If you understand Hebrew - I can show you a bunch of videos exemplifying how dumb this Rabbi is. In fact, his intelligence in science isn't even qualified to pass a standard high school biology test. You should also look at the works of Richard Dawkins and also practically every scientist! These religious morons lie about dinosaurs, homo erectus, neanderthals,but want u to believe their lies.
If the Jews are waiting for Elijah the Prophet; which they do rightfully so; then how will they know if it's Elijah?!? By his clothing, a name tag, or an Angel that says "Hey this is Elijah, listen ti him!" How will you know? You will not find him because you are already blinded by the veil of Moses! 2 Corinthians 3 : 12 - 16
Why don't you read these verses from the New Testament huh?!?
@lavigne943 Genesis 23:19 says Afterward Abraham buried his wife Sarah in the cave in the field of Machpelah near Mamre (which is at Hebron) in the land of Canaan. 20 So the field and the cave in it were deeded to Abraham by the Hittites as a burial site.
@lavigne943 in which Acts 7:16 says Their bodies were brought back to Shechem and placed in the tomb that Abraham had bought from the sons of Hamor at Shechem for a certain sum of money," which is wrong because Abraham didnt by it from Hamor he bought it from Heth,Genesis 25:10-the field which Abraham purchased from the sons of Heth;there Abraham was buried with Sarah his wife
@lavigne943 lol do you see your own misktake!! in Joshua 24:32 its says that Joseph's bones, which the Israelites had brought up from Egypt, were buried at Shechem in the tract of land that Jacob bought for a hundred pieces of silver from the sons of Hamor, the father of Shechem. This became the inheritance of Joseph's descendants.meaning that joseph was burried on the land of jacobs property not where he died, jacob was burried with his father and grandfather in Hebron (Machpelah)
Right....Xtians telling Jews how to read the Torah..nice one. The Rabbi is right. This guy was supposed to be a Xtian minister?? Wow....this is sad. Rabbi Mizrachi does not speak English as a first or second language (obviously) and yet even with this limited language skills, beat this supposed learned Xtian man hands down.
@DarkQuietWyattON RABBI.....YOU SAID THAT IF YOU FIND ONE VERSE THAT CONTRADICTS THE TORAH THEN YOU WOULD REJECT THE TORAH......I HAVE FOUND THAT VERSE....The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand, until I make Thine enemies a footstool for Thy feet." (Psalm 110:1)......THIS PROVES THAT GOD HAS A DIVINITY AND THAT JESUS MUST BE THE SON OF GOD WHO IS TALKING TO THE FATHER "the LORD says to my lord" .......WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!!!!!!
My objection is to a Rabbi playing on people's ignorance of scripture, and If he knows scripture then it is deliberate.
Acts is word for word for Joshua, and Joshua is not the same as recorded in genesis, that means it is the Torah that has discrepansies, which is easily explained , I mean the Jewish congress in ad80 denied the 7 books of the Catholic Old testament, yet it is known The Alexandrian jews used it as scripture and so did Christ, He fights God.
@TheKorban The Rabbi was debating a supposed learned man. There are not discrpencies in the Torah if you have the oral law but without it, you don't understand it.
@DarkQuietWyattON RABBI.....YOU SAID THAT IF YOU FIND ONE VERSE THAT CONTRADICTS THE TORAH THEN YOU WOULD REJECT THE TORAH......I HAVE FOUND THAT VERSE....The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand, until I make Thine enemies a footstool for Thy feet." (Psalm 110:1)......THIS PROVES THAT GOD HAS A DIVINITY AND THAT JESUS MUST BE THE SON OF GOD WHO IS TALKING TO THE FATHER "the LORD says to my lord" .......WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!!!!!!
The Lord says to my lord", the lower case lord is King David referring to himself in the third person. The psalm was composed by David to be sung after his death. Also it is part of Tehillim (psalms) and not the Written Torah so even if there were a contradiction its not relevant to the issue
i would hope so....the Christian is a sunday keeping, pork-eating believer....
but why wont the Rabbi debate a Messianic believer?? He wont because the Messianic believer keeps the Torah and has studied the Torah as opposed to most Christians who are ignorant of it
@varoshah Messianics keep the Torah? No they don't. They make the mistake of going through the motions. Wearing tefillin, eating kosher but they make the most fundamental mistake a "Jew" (I consider "messianics heretics and apostates) can make. They do not believe in one G-d. They have bough the Xtian myth that a diety composed of 3 parts is one diety. Sorry. There is one G-d not a trinitarian G-d and not a father/son G-d etc.
@DarkQuietWyattON I am a mesianic jew and we dont believe in the Trinity. this is one of the reasons why most mesianics came out of Chrsitain churches. We believe in the oneness of the Almighty God and the Torah observance. But we also believe that the Jewish YESHUA is the Mashiaj. It was Gods will to submit him to such sufferings for our transgressions. US, THE TRUE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. HE WILL WRITE HIS LAWS IN OUR HEARTS AGAIN AS HE HAS PROMISED. HOUSE OF YUDAH AND ISRAEL WILL UNITE AND BE ONE.
@DarkQuietWyattON I am a mesianic jew and we dont believe in the Trinity. this is one of the reasons why most mesianics came out of Chrsitain churches. We believe in the oneness of the Almighty God and the Torah observance. But we also believe that the Jewish YESHUA is the Mashiaj. It was Gods will to submit him to such sufferings for our transgressions. US, THE TRUE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. HE WILL WRITE HIS LAWS IN OUR HEARTS AGAIN AS HE HAS PROMISED. HOUSE OF YUDAH AND ISRAEL WILL UNITE AND BE ONE.
@varoshah Well I am a Christian, I keep the Sabbath, I don't eat pork, and the books of Moses (the Torah) are critical to my belief. I am not a Messianic Jew either so what does that make me?
The Holy Bible was first given by word of mouth and then transfer to paper. The main message is to keep The Ten Commandments even after you accept Jesus as Savior. This will come automatically. The thing the Jesus remove was the laws in the book that was outside the Ark
@joseagosto1 Well the ten commandments were in the Ark of the covenant yet modern Christians don't keep the 8th commandment. Even the Disciples kept the Sabbath throughout their whole life never once saying anything had changed. John 14:15 even states that Jesus said, if you love me, you'll keep my commandments.
Hold on the contradiction is in the torah not the new testament
gensis(jacobs request before death) and Joshua give two different places
In Acts the new testament it reads the same as Joshua !
This rabbi should read Mark 9-42
Then find out who all the Torah prophecies pointed too, and if he doesn't see it ask why did God destroy all the Levite priests, so sacrifice could no longer be performed! what happened to the perpetual sacrifice ? God said it would never cease Jesus is the sacrifice
@TheKorban Yes.....because Xtians know so much more about the Torah than the Jews...who whom it was given. Do you read Hebrew? Did you go to a Yeshiva? Who did you study under? Mark is a fairy tale and you should really understand the history of how the Xtian bible came to be and how the books came to be there. Nicene Council...ring a bell?
This Christian is being shown the contradictions of his New Testament accroding to the Torah. He is letting it go in one ear and out the other. Christianity is a completely different faith to Judaism. They will only share the kingdom of HaShem if they live a rightrous life as Goyim. B"H Emet is being told by this Rabbi!
Two corrupt beliefs that try to convince each other that their belief is the ultimate truth, simply amazing! This is why the debate looks like a comedy! Bozo the clowns are on the stage, watch out now,,,,lol
ok lets say it does talk about Joseph son of Jacob, then why it said he was barried with his fathers? And why it says that Avraham bought it from Shechem Chamor?
about him not knowing the bible, he's been teaching christianity for over 31y in the NY university as far as i know.
plus that wasnt the only mistake the Rabbi showed him, there were dozens of em in the debate.
one last thing, new testement got ~150,000 versions of text. yet there is only 1 version to the Torah.
@MadNek The same argument your using against the New testament works against you. If your belief is the truth shouldn't it transcend all languages? And you may want to get more familiar with Abraham Benisch since he was the first to translate the Torah into english back in 1851. As for this guy knowing the bible, your judging this man to be THE authority of Christianity. I would never ever hold any man to be THE authority when it comes to any religion.
no one said dont translate, but the rabbi did say translate correctly for example take the work young maiden and translate it to a virgin.
how about the mistake with the cave? Torah says Abraham bought the cave from Efron, new testament says he bought it from Hamor. Torah says the cave is in Hevron, new testament says its in Shehem (Nablus).
that is a giographical mistake, divine book with human errors?
The most likely explanation is that Jacob and “our fathers” were buried in two different tombs, just as the Bible describes. In other words, when Stephen says “he and our fathers died. Their bodies were brought back to Shechem” the ambiguous “their” could refer only to “our fathers” but not to Jacob, who was buried at Machpelah, as the book of Genesis states. This is almost certainly what Stephen meant, otherwise the Sanhedrin who were very well-versed in Jewish history would have corrected him.
@MadNek Also the original Greek translations yield a more accurate and understandable statement from Stephen. The two clauses, properly punctuated, and with the ellipsis supplied, read thus: “and he died; and our fathers died, and were carried over into Shechem.” With this rendering and punctuation, (which should have been the basis of the debate) the contradiction totally disappears.
this is the whole problem of "more or less accurate".
you see Xtians and muslims all agree that Torah is a divine book, and if you go to any synagogue and open the Torah all over the world its the same Torah everywhere, yet the new testament got contradictions with in itself, now if you claim like that its divine or the word of G-d then it must be perfect no errors, like the Torah.
and yet you brought me so far more then 2 opinions or translations over it to justify your point
@MadNek Mans interpretation and translations sadly are not divine. He has a valid argument about the greek translation. Its only fair that he can use the original translation just as you would. And being a student of greek I would be happy to get into more detail about the construction of the verse in greek if you need clarification. You really can't call it a contradiction when its properly clarified in greek, the original translation.
thats exactly my point, the Torah as it was written in Hebrew without any translations is understandable and not arguable (typo?), yet when translation comes into play, words get translated wrong copy errors are being applied to the new books being written or translated, and after few hundreds/thousand years. we get a book that is filled with errors and claimed to be the word of G-d.
@MadNek So the debate really boils down to translation, not contradiction. The truth is that an unclear wording in a certain translation allows room for misinterpretation, but that doesn't change the fact that the source (Greek) is still valid and accurate. Just because the Xtians don't understand this doesn't mean an intelligent Jew can't either. Based on the question of the debate I feel his answer is quite sufficient. Xtians need to follow the original translation, nothing more nothing less.
actually the full debate at /watch?v=jDbOCKdSIR8 shows about 50 contradiction for example...
1. Torah: Jacob went to Egypt with 70 ppl, NT: Jacob went with 75. thats not a translation error.
2. NT twice describes the genealogy of Joshua to kind David to show that he's the messiah, as the prophecy said messiah son of David...yet in those two times there are over 20 different names from one description to another. yet another big contridiction.
@MadNek Before I attempt to try and explain the other 50 "contradictions" I have yet to see I need to know if your satisified with the explanation I have given for the first one.
@greyfoxzero While you may seem a bit scatter brained based on your comments some of what you say has valid points. I think its fair to say that in a debate one must use the original translation. Wouldn't the Rabbi rely on a Hebrew Torah? Then why not a Pastor rely on a greek new testament? To be honest I didn't expect to hear a logical response from the Xtian side but yours seems to be probable. The greek translation certainly appears to be a bit more clear in its wording.
@MadNek Also I removed my previous post because I misunderstood the question. My apologies for the previous post since I thought it was about who purchased the tomb and not the location.
@5Epheser11 My friend, Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away. G-d knows where they ended up. I know he has never been to Mecca but does this mean Mohammad was not a descendant of Ishmael? No.
@5Epheser11 I have no problem with Mo being an Ishmaelite for Ishmael was a wicked man. Read the prophecy regarding him. Regarding the route: they perverted things in order to become chosen. Just like christians do.
@5Epheser11 Comke on, even the arabic name for Yerushalayim is (Maqdis) Al-Kuds, meaning THE HOLY TEMPLE. Unfortunately for them, islam doesn't have temples.
@5Epheser11 Quran? Why you always come up with that plagiarized version of your plagiarized NT? I don't get your point. Anyway, archaeology proves the Temple stood in Yerushalayim. There is even a wall of it left right there. What i say is that you cannot rely on sources by the same people who invented it. Get it? That's like proving NT - by using the NT. It is calld circular resoning. And it is worth shit. You are not serious. I read Atwill's book and he proved his point.
@5Epheser11 I am still waiting for a NON-Christian and THEREFORE Non-Roman source attesting ANY persecution of xtians by the Romans. It is easy tomake such things up, you know. You just fell for that. Atwill made no mistakes in his book. You didn't bring up evidence. Also, your english is crappy.
@5Epheser11 Christianity was invented in order to fool Jews in the first place. I keep on repeating myself and it starts annoying me. Why waste time with an ignorant fool like you? Go and gain some knowledge, seriously. Study CAESARS MESSIAH and carotta's book. THEN come again.
@5Epheser11 1st: i don't give a shit about what muslims or ancient christians said about mary. Those guys are fooled into believing in a divine human. Sheer nonsense. 2.: Not one Gospel was written in Hebrew. They were all written in Greek. I do not care about the grammar as this just proves that the author might not have been the brightest person. Hence, yoh translation of the Gospel of John is shit as the original is in such a bad grammer. You kicked your own balls here. XD
@5Epheser11 True christianity IS pagan. A roman mangod, cannibalized scapegoat. Yes, please give me more references and TRY to explain to all of us why the NT was not written in Hebrew if of Jewish origin!!! LOL
@5Epheser11 Any NON-CHRISTIAN sources? You don't seem to get my point, do you? The NT turns people into SLAVES of the church. This is what worked pretty well in Africa also. Poor blacks - raped by christians AND muslims... :-(
@5Epheser11 Romans killing christians? I bet this is from Roman sources LOL!!! If they were to promote their invention - why should ANY non-Roman believe in it?^^
@5Epheser11 My friend, do some SERIOUS research on that and you will soon discover that Jesus never existed. He is a myth. And everyone believing in Jesus is false - so is islam also. They have their own agenda as to why they believe in him - in order to missionarize you guys more easily. They do the same to you as the Romans did to us. And you still don't understand it.
@5Epheser11 According to our scripture, the messiah needs to fulfill certain prophecies which Jesus clearly failed. You need to study the Torah/Tanach first.^^ By making claims you just make yourself look stupid. Jesus was indeed invented by the Romans in order to missionarize the revolting Jews that expected a warrior messiah. This messiah was substituted by the "prince of peace" who in fact was the Ceasar. Romans perverted Judaism into DIVUS JULIUS - christianity emerged.
@5Epheser11 I herewith ask you to bring forth references proving christianity is NOT a roman invention and that jesus is NOT cesar. Impatiently awaiting your HONEST reply.
@5Epheser11 The Masoretic text (and the Septuagint Version) identifies Hebron as the location of the burial cave (Machpelah) Abraham purchased from Ephron the Hittite (Genesis 23:1-20) and where Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were buried (Genesis 49:29-32). The Jewish Scriptures state that Jacob was buried at Hebron, in the cave of Machpelah, which Abraham had purchased from Ephron the Hittite for four hundred silver shekels (Genesis 23:16, 49:29-33, 50:13).
@5Epheser11 So now you admit the NT is worth shit. And still you prefer follwing that roman mangod rather than istening to the TRUE or of G-d, yet calling others ignorant. You're a funny guy!!! XD
What about the fact that the mountain that is currently called MT.Sinai is NOT the Biblical Mt.Sinai which is in Saudi Arabia Exactly where the Bible points to it.
@rapartist43 Do a detailed I listened to what he said.
Come there were differences? Because Humans are not perfect.
Humans need authority; with its authority the Council of NIcea and the other key 7 councils; define, develop & clarify what is canon and what is simple error:
heresy and or key features. It was not only post-reformation theologians that discovered these errors; they were discussed, defined, developed, or excluded.
It the Church Jesus Christ founded that is the key issue here..
I just have one question: what VERSION of the New Testament was the scholar/Rabbi reading? Because there unfortunately have been so many translations from the King James and the origional Hebrew/Greek, that the translations have been erronous (bad, I know) that is why a Strong's Concordance and an earlier translation/even more than one translation, is a good idea. Doing word studies is a good idea, also, comparing the Hebrew/Greek/English in the concordance..
He is Israeli. He speaks English less fluently yet is clearly a thousand more times more intelligent and more prepared than his opponent. Making fun of his accent or grammer will not make the contradictions in Christianity disappear.
Lol, We,ve been down this road before. He the loveable Yossi Mizrachi, fails to mention the myriad of errors in the Tanach, funny but not fair.There are contradictions/errors in BOTH books.Lets all follow the mitzvah of being HONEST and RIGHTEOUS
If you watch the rest of the debate you will see that the rabbi explains that he has debated the issue with Christians in the past, including one who had been a pastor for 30 years, and they still were not able to answer his questions
The answer to this question is in Joshua 24:32. And the bones of Joseph, which the sons of Israel had brought up out of Egypt, they burried at Shekem, in the plot of ground which Jacob had bought from the sons of Hamor the father of Shekem for one hundred qesitah, and which had become an inheritance of the children of Joseph. I think that this is just a seeky atempt to get beleivers in Yahshua to doubt the New Testament.
Quiddo1 1 week ago
Excellent job, rabbi. To all the christens you are wasting your time. You have 7 noahide laws one of them do not worship idols. You do!
theshockingtruth1 2 weeks ago
Jesus died for our Debt ! (Jewish Usury economic's and Romes accountants, today's Roman Jesuit Banksters) at the request of the Talmudic Usury Jew, and by the hand of Rome (Tax man,today's Tax man)...All roads lead to Rome !..Ps, The King James I Bible only ! (Greek Text)..
freedombiteback 2 weeks ago
I have a question to all Jews:
Q:What came first? The promise to Abraham or the Torah given to Moses?
SuperDonster 1 month ago
@SuperDonster
I ANSWEAR YOU -
ABRAHAM LEARN THE TORAH BEFORE GIVEN BY MOSES
ABRAHAM HAVE 70 INTERPRETATIONS TO THE TORAH
shaharmos 1 month ago
@shaharmos shw me where it says God gave Abraham the Torah.YHWY gave Moses the Torah 430yrs AFTER He made the PROMISES to Abraham.
The promises were B4 the law.Therefor, the law can NOT disannul the promises. Promises were given to the SEED of Abraham;not SEEDS.That SEED is Christ.All those that believe in Yeshua are counted as seeds of Abraham.Thus,they are children of YHWH and heirs to the promise.If you want your temporary school master,go ahead.I choose the promise by faith Gen15:6
Shalom
SuperDonster 1 month ago
@SuperDonster
It is written in the Talmud that the interpretations of the Torah 1,000 years ago. And more books written Kabbalah - If you find that the Torah lies you can stop being a Jew
shaharmos 4 weeks ago
@shaharmos Talmud is man made and does NOT come frm YHWH. Show me anywhere in the Talmud where it says '"Thus saith YHWH" or "and YHWH said" or something similar. Moses came dwn Mt.Sinai with 1 WRITTEN Torah; that's it. Exodus24:4 and Josh8:35 are very clear: all YHWH's words were written down=no such thing as oral Torah ie Talmud. If you would rather listen to what Rabbis say than wht YHWH says, tht's your choice.
I like my Torah without the words of Rashi printed next to the words of YHWH
SuperDonster 4 weeks ago
@SuperDonster
The Talmud is the interpretation of the Torah by rabbis in previous generations. Read the Talmud and the you find embedded in many verses from the Torah
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NatanelYaHu 4 weeks ago
@SuperDonster Abraham was given the Torah orally by G-d look at Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. The word for "my law's' In Hebrew is "Torah" with a qamits yud suffix (my). My Torah. And because Abraham obeyed G-ds Torah the promise of the seed was given. Therefore Torah came before the promise.
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@NatanelYaHu Abraham was accounted righteous long before Gen26:5 due to his FAITH Gen15:6. YHWH gave Abraham promises B4 any law(Gen12:3-4)
And this I say,that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years[430] after,cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. Gal3:17(see verses16-18)
And, Abraham was saved @least13yrs B4 he was circumcised
Therefor, the law came 430yrs after and can not disannul the promises
SuperDonster 4 weeks ago
@SuperDonster No Gen26:5 did take place before Gen12:3 Gen15:6. And I will make thy SEED to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy SEED all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;Gen26:4(and)Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws(the Hebrew is Torah).Gen26:5 notice "Because that" in Gen26:5 What is the Because that referring to?
NatanelYaHu 4 weeks ago
@NatanelYaHu The seed was promised "because that" Abraham obeyed. But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?James 2:20 Abraham obey the oral torah given by G-d with faith.
NatanelYaHu 4 weeks ago
@NatanelYaHu yes,Abraham obeyed God's voice when YHWH told him "Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee..." and also when YHWH promised Sarah would have a child; Abraham believed.You're trying to equate Abraham following YHWH's words to the Torah given to Moses on Mt.Sinai,but Abraham's promise was of the Spirit and Moses' covenant,the Torah, is of the flesh ie bondage.This was a schoolmaster until Yeshua,the promise, came
SuperDonster 4 weeks ago
@NatanelYaHu (cont) Christ is the end to righteousness via the law(Rom10:4).All those who put their faith in Yeshua HaMashiach put on his righteousness and are considered the children of God;thus the heirs to the promises given to Abraham. The new covenant is written in our hearts and Yeshua laid them out in the NT. You don't follow the law anyway because you don't have a temple.
And yes, you need the Temple to follow ALL THE LAW
James teaches works are RESULTS of faith,not the other way arnd
SuperDonster 4 weeks ago
If the Koran says that a man followed the sun and found that it set in a pool of murky water, is it from God?
He [i.e. Zul-qarnain] followed, until he reached the setting of the sun. He found it set in a spring of murky water.
(Surah XVIII ( Kahf) vs. 85-86)
IndianaJesusfreak 2 months ago
If the Koran says that Mary is Aaron's sister, even though we know that Aaron lived 1,000 years before Mary, how could the Koran be from God?
IndianaJesusfreak 2 months ago
@IndianaJesusfreak I personally don't believe the Koran is from G-d but the sister of Aaron is Merriam the Greek and English for Merriam is Marry.The Koran is just using the English.Marry Jesus Mother was Jewish however Marry is not a Hebrew name her Hebrew Bat Mitzvah name was Merriam.
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garywahler 2 months ago
google DIONYSIS myths ALL jesus details are there COPIED ,STOLEN by xtians.google stories similar to jesus all his details in bible are there the greeks copied these and TRINITY myths cos it was only way to get the customers to join who were unwilling to give up trinity and other beliefs for ONE god cos trinity belief was VERY COMMON to the pagans of the area and time
sajakram1 3 months ago
wayyaʿăḇōḏ yiśərā'ēl 'eṯ-yəhwāh kōl yəmê yəhôšuʿa wəḵōl yəmê hazzəqēnîm 'ăšer he'ĕrîḵû yāmîm 'aḥărê yəhôšuʿa wa'ăšer yāḏəʿû 'ēṯ kāl-maʿăśēh yəhwāh 'ăšer ʿāśāh ləyiśərā'ēl
Josh 24:32 וְאֶת־עַצְמֹ֣ות יֹ֠וסֵף אֲשֶׁר־הֶעֱל֨וּ בְנֵי־יִשְׂרָאֵ֥ל ׀ מִמִּצְרַיִם֮ קָבְר֣וּ בִשְׁכֶם֒ בְּחֶלְקַ֣ת הַשָּׂדֶ֗ה אֲשֶׁ֨ר קָנָ֧ה יַעֲקֹ֛ב מֵאֵ֛ת בְּנֵֽי־חֲמֹ֥ור אֲבִֽי־שְׁכֶ֖ם בְּמֵאָ֣ה קְשִׂיטָ֑ה וַיִּֽהְי֥וּ לִבְנֵֽי־יֹוסֵ֖ף לְנַחֲלָֽה׃
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usmc7242 3 months ago
My Gosh, maybe the location of Abraham's tombis where the Bible says and not where people thought?
Josh 24:32 And the bones of Joseph, which the children of Israel brought up out of Egypt, buried they in Shechem, in a parcel of ground which Jacob bought of the sons of Hamor the father of Shechem for an hundred pieces of silver: and it became the inheritance of the children of Joseph.
These are the same words, they mean the same things, it appears this Rabbi doesn't know his Bible as he claims
usmc7242 3 months ago
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pawel86able 2 months ago
@usmc7242 Jacob bought it not Abraham.
pawel86able 2 months ago
H7927 שְׁכֶם (šəḵem) Shechem =" back" or "shoulder" n pr m
1.) son of Hamor, the chieftain of the Hivites at Shechem at the time of Jacob's arrival n pr loc
2.) a city in Manasseh; located in a valley between Mount Ebal and Mount Gerizim, 34 miles (54 km) north of Jerusalem and 7 miles (10.5 km) south- east of Samaria
Etymology: the same as H7926, Greek G4966 συχεμ TWOT: 2386b AV- Shechem (61), Sichem (1), Strong's synonym for consent (1); (63)
usmc7242 3 months ago
G4966 Συχέμ (Sukhem) - Sychem (i.e. Shekem), the name of a Canaanite and of a place in Palestine; Etymology: of Hebrew origin (H7927); KJV: Sychem.
G4966 Συχέμ (Sukhem) Shechem =" shoulder (literal early rising): diligence" 1.) a city in Ephraim 2.) the son of Emmor Etymology: of Hebrew origin H7927 שכמה Part of Speech: n pr loc AV- Sychem (City in Ephraim) (1), Sychem (son of Emmor) (1); (2)
usmc7242 3 months ago
you have to be kidding, right? THIS is supposed to disprove the Bible???
G4966 Συχέμ (Sukhem) suchem _ H7926 shekhem
H7926 שְׁכֶם (šəḵem) - the neck (between the shoulders) as the place of burdens; - figuratively, the spur of a hill; Etymology: from H7925; KJV: back, X consent, portion, shoulder.
THOSE ARE THE WORDS USED IN THIS PASSAGE, The Greek word is SUKHEM, it is a translation of the Hebrew H7926 שְׁכֶם (šəḵem)
usmc7242 3 months ago
acts didnt apostle paul wrote that??
TheBestEVER4LIFE 4 months ago
@TheBestEVER4LIFE
No, Luke did
usmc7242 3 months ago
@TheBestEVER4LIFE Most believe that Luke wrote ACTS, but Paul may have writtten the last half or at least narrated his events to Luke
usmc7242 2 months ago
lol ye god came slept with a marread women and ........ fuckin bulshit
chaltesur 4 months ago
If the book of Acts was written after 70 AD that doesn't mean that the events took place after 70 AD so the Sandedrin would have still been in existance during those events. I agree with your point about Machpelah however the Bible does not record the burial places for many of the other patriarchs. The bible is clear that Joseph was buried in Shechem however it doesn't say that other patriarchs were not.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
Here the Rabbi is only citing the statement made by Stephen, a believer in Jesus, as to where the burial plots were in history, but the statement is made by Stephen according to his own speech, and is not then the word of Jesus. To to say that Stephen combines facts and summarizes to miss the accuracy of details in a long history of burial plots and lands, is a mistaken gesture to attempt to disprove the matter as if Jesus was the one giving the speech. Stephen was not required anything
CarmineFragione 5 months ago
the Rabbi is totally false. The Messiah is like Moses, the Law was written only in the consonant letters and the Priest of the Anointing of God, the Holy Spirit, must fill in the correct vowels to open the Law and Read it. Thus Messiah has the same power as Moses to Abrogate or Interpret the Law. The Rabbi here is claiming that Jesus Christ could not Interpret the Law so as to be Justified. Jesus is God, Jesus is the fulfiller of the Law. Moses said to obey what Messiah says as Law.
CarmineFragione 5 months ago
The point about the author writing book a and book b isn't accurate. Think about it, Book b would have been biographical, a totally different style of book all together. Also this guy is so condescending that any argument he has will seem tainted not with an attempt to understand but rather an attempt to be dismissive.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
The Jews in their blindness , still overcome with haughtiness , even after their temple was destroyed as Jesus prophesied will happen, even after all the misfortune that has befallen them , they cannot see the wood from the trees, that God is still angry with them. Sad to see them still walking in utter blindness , truly sad. May God save these blind folk !!!!
frosbel 5 months ago
It will be interesting in the "end" if the "Jews" who carry the instructions of God and the Christians to be the lost ten tribes and at the "end" become the two sticks which will be one which will become the power of God on earth = the army of dry bones that will come alive .... uhmm just saying
brazilian777able 7 months ago
i i recieved a book from God and still found out it was wrong...........im still alive right? and he made mme then broklyn could have been changed throught out time
reaper83001 8 months ago
@cryfreeedom Do you want to see what the Vatican is up lately? Yes, in real time, it's only because they have the western media in their pocket, you don't know.
leonvoltaire 9 months ago
@cryfreeedom I see you you lack history, the RCC!
leonvoltaire 9 months ago
@leonvoltaire How is that history?
DarkQuietWyattON 7 months ago
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shirley7mazin 10 months ago
lol
LionProductionsTV 11 months ago
Really if one thing is wrong we should throw it away? Well there are plenty of errors in the torah! so what does Rabbi Mizrachi say to that? Oh yea I know....what the torah really meant was.....or the rabbis explain that...bla bla bla
kithp 11 months ago
If a Christian answer that Rabbis question please send a message to me. If you can make it then I swear to God I will believe in Jesus.
Boromir33 1 year ago
@Boromir33 I thought jews kept the ten commandments. Saying "I swear to God" is taking the Lords name in vain.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
Notice how we christians are always attacked by other religions, its cuz we are the right religion and people hate on us
SiiKxSnipez 1 year ago
@SiiKxSnipez Even a Christian knows there will never be a true religion on this earth since religion is made by man. Romans 3:22-24 is pretty clear on mans short comings.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
Idk why people change the bible, its sad but christianity is not false, and thats a fact.Jesus was the son of god he had powers and led a sin less life and thats why jews hated him, the torah was changed and thats why god sent jesus to save us
SiiKxSnipez 1 year ago
You could find a lot of "errors" in the Torah or Old Testament if you read it with "reason" and "logic", you'll find them. Is not a strong argument. Yeshua is the Messiah! Want to find logic and reason in this affirmation? Well, you're in the wrong place. As God says in the Scriptures,
“I will destroy the wisdom
of all who claim
to be wise.
I will confuse those
who think they know
so much.”
SynchroniZer7 1 year ago
The Rabbi kicked that guy's butt!
KingOystar 1 year ago
2Ch 2:2 And Solomon told out threescore and ten thousand men to bear burdens, and fourscore thousand to hew in the mountain, and THREE thousand and SIX hundred to oversee them. 1Ki 5:16 Beside the chief of Solomon's officers which [were] over the work, THREE thousand and THREE hundred, which ruled over the people that wrought in the work.
Explain this to me. because according to this brother we need to throw out 1 kings and 2chronichles.
livingtorah 1 year ago
The Scriptures tell us not to Trust men, so don't Trust your Rabbi. Trust G-D alone
Domodeath 1 year ago
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mrnotonly 1 year ago
He works so hard to find & demonstrate errors in other religious books but fails to address his own...You think people don't want to believe and go to heaven (if it existed)? Of course they do, but the fact of the matter is that even the Torah was written by MEN and the God depicted is in man's own image. You can fool gullible people with low intelligence of science but you can't avoid obvious errors in the so called "divine" scripture since God didn't write it or any other book of religion.
DannyGrip1 1 year ago
This guy fails to mention that even in the Torah you can find numerous mistakes...He also fails to address scientific errors of the Torah in Leviticus 11 that claim Bats are Mammals, Rabbits & Bunnies are Ruminants (chrew their cud), Insects possess 4 Legs, Camels don't have split hooves (even though they do), and why Genesis 14:14 says Abram travels to the city of Dan - which didn't even exist until 300 years later. 5 Examples out of 100's of Torah Errors!
DannyGrip1 1 year ago
@DannyGrip1 i'm really not interested in debating about religion, but u need to accept that if a religion is truly correct, it's Judaism. to answer your questions, chewing cud was a more technical term back then, those animals did feast on their own dropping for extra nourishment, thus a minimal way of chewing their own cud, just not the same way a modern science explains it. Camels hooves are technically split, but they are not cloven, thus not being kosher.
mevansmusic 9 months ago
@mevansmusic Judaism is plagued with misfortunes of contradictions, just like all other religions. If you understand Hebrew - I can show you a bunch of videos exemplifying how dumb this Rabbi is. In fact, his intelligence in science isn't even qualified to pass a standard high school biology test. You should also look at the works of Richard Dawkins and also practically every scientist! These religious morons lie about dinosaurs, homo erectus, neanderthals,but want u to believe their lies.
DannyGrip1 8 months ago
@DannyGrip1 So basically you are an atheist who thinks all religion is dumb and all religious people are ignorant. Nice. LOL LOL
DarkQuietWyattON 7 months ago
The Rabbi destroyed this guy and also the christian faith with this video.
saulboyjt 1 year ago
If the Jews are waiting for Elijah the Prophet; which they do rightfully so; then how will they know if it's Elijah?!? By his clothing, a name tag, or an Angel that says "Hey this is Elijah, listen ti him!" How will you know? You will not find him because you are already blinded by the veil of Moses! 2 Corinthians 3 : 12 - 16
Why don't you read these verses from the New Testament huh?!?
kamilean 1 year ago
@kamilean We're waiting for the Messiah, not Elijah.
Jewdicris 1 year ago
@lavigne943 Genesis 23:19 says Afterward Abraham buried his wife Sarah in the cave in the field of Machpelah near Mamre (which is at Hebron) in the land of Canaan. 20 So the field and the cave in it were deeded to Abraham by the Hittites as a burial site.
killerpimpalex 1 year ago
@lavigne943 in which Acts 7:16 says Their bodies were brought back to Shechem and placed in the tomb that Abraham had bought from the sons of Hamor at Shechem for a certain sum of money," which is wrong because Abraham didnt by it from Hamor he bought it from Heth,Genesis 25:10-the field which Abraham purchased from the sons of Heth;there Abraham was buried with Sarah his wife
killerpimpalex 1 year ago
@lavigne943 lol do you see your own misktake!! in Joshua 24:32 its says that Joseph's bones, which the Israelites had brought up from Egypt, were buried at Shechem in the tract of land that Jacob bought for a hundred pieces of silver from the sons of Hamor, the father of Shechem. This became the inheritance of Joseph's descendants.meaning that joseph was burried on the land of jacobs property not where he died, jacob was burried with his father and grandfather in Hebron (Machpelah)
killerpimpalex 1 year ago
jesus is a jew like a jew
germanisrael1 1 year ago
Right....Xtians telling Jews how to read the Torah..nice one. The Rabbi is right. This guy was supposed to be a Xtian minister?? Wow....this is sad. Rabbi Mizrachi does not speak English as a first or second language (obviously) and yet even with this limited language skills, beat this supposed learned Xtian man hands down.
DarkQuietWyattON 1 year ago
Right....Xtians telling Jews how to read the Torah..nice one. The Rabbi is right
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@DarkQuietWyattON RABBI.....YOU SAID THAT IF YOU FIND ONE VERSE THAT CONTRADICTS THE TORAH THEN YOU WOULD REJECT THE TORAH......I HAVE FOUND THAT VERSE....The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand, until I make Thine enemies a footstool for Thy feet." (Psalm 110:1)......THIS PROVES THAT GOD HAS A DIVINITY AND THAT JESUS MUST BE THE SON OF GOD WHO IS TALKING TO THE FATHER "the LORD says to my lord" .......WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!!!!!!
Mrignorance666 9 months ago
@Jackie2383
And if you get the sources will you stop believing in christianity
eking657 1 year ago
@MrGeorgedubya I never said It was?
My objection is to a Rabbi playing on people's ignorance of scripture, and If he knows scripture then it is deliberate.
Acts is word for word for Joshua, and Joshua is not the same as recorded in genesis, that means it is the Torah that has discrepansies, which is easily explained , I mean the Jewish congress in ad80 denied the 7 books of the Catholic Old testament, yet it is known The Alexandrian jews used it as scripture and so did Christ, He fights God.
TheKorban 1 year ago
@TheKorban The Rabbi was debating a supposed learned man. There are not discrpencies in the Torah if you have the oral law but without it, you don't understand it.
Rabbi Mizrachi mopped the floor with this guy.
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@DarkQuietWyattON RABBI.....YOU SAID THAT IF YOU FIND ONE VERSE THAT CONTRADICTS THE TORAH THEN YOU WOULD REJECT THE TORAH......I HAVE FOUND THAT VERSE....The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand, until I make Thine enemies a footstool for Thy feet." (Psalm 110:1)......THIS PROVES THAT GOD HAS A DIVINITY AND THAT JESUS MUST BE THE SON OF GOD WHO IS TALKING TO THE FATHER "the LORD says to my lord" .......WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!!!!!!
Mrignorance666 9 months ago
The Lord says to my lord", the lower case lord is King David referring to himself in the third person. The psalm was composed by David to be sung after his death. Also it is part of Tehillim (psalms) and not the Written Torah so even if there were a contradiction its not relevant to the issue
breeeegs 1 week ago
@DarkQuietWyattON
i would hope so....the Christian is a sunday keeping, pork-eating believer....
but why wont the Rabbi debate a Messianic believer?? He wont because the Messianic believer keeps the Torah and has studied the Torah as opposed to most Christians who are ignorant of it
varoshah 7 months ago
@varoshah Messianics keep the Torah? No they don't. They make the mistake of going through the motions. Wearing tefillin, eating kosher but they make the most fundamental mistake a "Jew" (I consider "messianics heretics and apostates) can make. They do not believe in one G-d. They have bough the Xtian myth that a diety composed of 3 parts is one diety. Sorry. There is one G-d not a trinitarian G-d and not a father/son G-d etc.
DarkQuietWyattON 7 months ago
@DarkQuietWyattON I am a mesianic jew and we dont believe in the Trinity. this is one of the reasons why most mesianics came out of Chrsitain churches. We believe in the oneness of the Almighty God and the Torah observance. But we also believe that the Jewish YESHUA is the Mashiaj. It was Gods will to submit him to such sufferings for our transgressions. US, THE TRUE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. HE WILL WRITE HIS LAWS IN OUR HEARTS AGAIN AS HE HAS PROMISED. HOUSE OF YUDAH AND ISRAEL WILL UNITE AND BE ONE.
eltestigofiel10 6 months ago
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@DarkQuietWyattON I am a mesianic jew and we dont believe in the Trinity. this is one of the reasons why most mesianics came out of Chrsitain churches. We believe in the oneness of the Almighty God and the Torah observance. But we also believe that the Jewish YESHUA is the Mashiaj. It was Gods will to submit him to such sufferings for our transgressions. US, THE TRUE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. HE WILL WRITE HIS LAWS IN OUR HEARTS AGAIN AS HE HAS PROMISED. HOUSE OF YUDAH AND ISRAEL WILL UNITE AND BE ONE.
eltestigofiel10 6 months ago
@varoshah Well I am a Christian, I keep the Sabbath, I don't eat pork, and the books of Moses (the Torah) are critical to my belief. I am not a Messianic Jew either so what does that make me?
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
@greyfoxzero
sorry greyfoxzeor, but i was only using a general view...my apologies...it was not meant to leane anyone out.
varoshah 5 months ago
@TheKorban You make almost no sense.....you know this, right?
DarkQuietWyattON 7 months ago
The Holy Bible was first given by word of mouth and then transfer to paper. The main message is to keep The Ten Commandments even after you accept Jesus as Savior. This will come automatically. The thing the Jesus remove was the laws in the book that was outside the Ark
joseagosto1 1 year ago
@joseagosto1 Well the ten commandments were in the Ark of the covenant yet modern Christians don't keep the 8th commandment. Even the Disciples kept the Sabbath throughout their whole life never once saying anything had changed. John 14:15 even states that Jesus said, if you love me, you'll keep my commandments.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
Hold on the contradiction is in the torah not the new testament
gensis(jacobs request before death) and Joshua give two different places
In Acts the new testament it reads the same as Joshua !
This rabbi should read Mark 9-42
Then find out who all the Torah prophecies pointed too, and if he doesn't see it ask why did God destroy all the Levite priests, so sacrifice could no longer be performed! what happened to the perpetual sacrifice ? God said it would never cease Jesus is the sacrifice
TheKorban 1 year ago
@TheKorban Yes.....because Xtians know so much more about the Torah than the Jews...who whom it was given. Do you read Hebrew? Did you go to a Yeshiva? Who did you study under? Mark is a fairy tale and you should really understand the history of how the Xtian bible came to be and how the books came to be there. Nicene Council...ring a bell?
DarkQuietWyattON 7 months ago
This Christian is being shown the contradictions of his New Testament accroding to the Torah. He is letting it go in one ear and out the other. Christianity is a completely different faith to Judaism. They will only share the kingdom of HaShem if they live a rightrous life as Goyim. B"H Emet is being told by this Rabbi!
meiliting87 1 year ago
Two corrupt beliefs that try to convince each other that their belief is the ultimate truth, simply amazing! This is why the debate looks like a comedy! Bozo the clowns are on the stage, watch out now,,,,lol
indimaya 1 year ago
lol
pathsofheaven 1 year ago
Chalk one up for the Rabbi!
1kkyu 1 year ago
@phoenix14400 HAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's THE WORST attempt to fit a square peg in a round hole I have ever seen in my LIFE!
You must be exhausted. Please have some water.
You are aware it says he was buries with his fathers...correct?
straygypsy 1 year ago
@phoenix14400
bs"d
ok lets say it does talk about Joseph son of Jacob, then why it said he was barried with his fathers? And why it says that Avraham bought it from Shechem Chamor?
about him not knowing the bible, he's been teaching christianity for over 31y in the NY university as far as i know.
plus that wasnt the only mistake the Rabbi showed him, there were dozens of em in the debate.
one last thing, new testement got ~150,000 versions of text. yet there is only 1 version to the Torah.
MadNek 1 year ago
@MadNek The same argument your using against the New testament works against you. If your belief is the truth shouldn't it transcend all languages? And you may want to get more familiar with Abraham Benisch since he was the first to translate the Torah into english back in 1851. As for this guy knowing the bible, your judging this man to be THE authority of Christianity. I would never ever hold any man to be THE authority when it comes to any religion.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
bs"d
@greyfoxzero
no one said dont translate, but the rabbi did say translate correctly for example take the work young maiden and translate it to a virgin.
how about the mistake with the cave? Torah says Abraham bought the cave from Efron, new testament says he bought it from Hamor. Torah says the cave is in Hevron, new testament says its in Shehem (Nablus).
that is a giographical mistake, divine book with human errors?
sry mate "translation" excuse doesnt cover it.
MadNek 5 months ago
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greyfoxzero 5 months ago
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@greyfoxzero
so acording to you, the cave was bought in Hevron once then sold and bought again in Shecehm? same cave, right?
MadNek 5 months ago
The most likely explanation is that Jacob and “our fathers” were buried in two different tombs, just as the Bible describes. In other words, when Stephen says “he and our fathers died. Their bodies were brought back to Shechem” the ambiguous “their” could refer only to “our fathers” but not to Jacob, who was buried at Machpelah, as the book of Genesis states. This is almost certainly what Stephen meant, otherwise the Sanhedrin who were very well-versed in Jewish history would have corrected him.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
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@greyfoxzero
well you see the only holy person from that time who is buried in Shechem is Joseph son of Jacob!
Abraham, Izhak and Jacob are buried in Hevron. so our fathers are buried in the same place called "Machpelah cave".
about Sanhedrin, it seized to exist after the 2nd Tample was destroyed, then it was only "Beith Din" or court of jewish law in each city.
you should watch the full debate you havent yet, you will see the blind-common errors that Xtians follow.
MadNek 5 months ago
@MadNek Also the original Greek translations yield a more accurate and understandable statement from Stephen. The two clauses, properly punctuated, and with the ellipsis supplied, read thus: “and he died; and our fathers died, and were carried over into Shechem.” With this rendering and punctuation, (which should have been the basis of the debate) the contradiction totally disappears.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
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@greyfoxzero
this is the whole problem of "more or less accurate".
you see Xtians and muslims all agree that Torah is a divine book, and if you go to any synagogue and open the Torah all over the world its the same Torah everywhere, yet the new testament got contradictions with in itself, now if you claim like that its divine or the word of G-d then it must be perfect no errors, like the Torah.
and yet you brought me so far more then 2 opinions or translations over it to justify your point
MadNek 5 months ago
@MadNek Mans interpretation and translations sadly are not divine. He has a valid argument about the greek translation. Its only fair that he can use the original translation just as you would. And being a student of greek I would be happy to get into more detail about the construction of the verse in greek if you need clarification. You really can't call it a contradiction when its properly clarified in greek, the original translation.
rachelrobbshdd 5 months ago
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@rachelrobbshdd
thats exactly my point, the Torah as it was written in Hebrew without any translations is understandable and not arguable (typo?), yet when translation comes into play, words get translated wrong copy errors are being applied to the new books being written or translated, and after few hundreds/thousand years. we get a book that is filled with errors and claimed to be the word of G-d.
original will always win over a translation.
MadNek 5 months ago
@MadNek So the debate really boils down to translation, not contradiction. The truth is that an unclear wording in a certain translation allows room for misinterpretation, but that doesn't change the fact that the source (Greek) is still valid and accurate. Just because the Xtians don't understand this doesn't mean an intelligent Jew can't either. Based on the question of the debate I feel his answer is quite sufficient. Xtians need to follow the original translation, nothing more nothing less.
rachelrobbshdd 5 months ago
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@rachelrobbshdd
actually the full debate at /watch?v=jDbOCKdSIR8 shows about 50 contradiction for example...
1. Torah: Jacob went to Egypt with 70 ppl, NT: Jacob went with 75. thats not a translation error.
2. NT twice describes the genealogy of Joshua to kind David to show that he's the messiah, as the prophecy said messiah son of David...yet in those two times there are over 20 different names from one description to another. yet another big contridiction.
and many more like it.
MadNek 5 months ago
@MadNek Before I attempt to try and explain the other 50 "contradictions" I have yet to see I need to know if your satisified with the explanation I have given for the first one.
rachelrobbshdd 5 months ago
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@rachelrobbshdd
i agree that the first ever translation NT was based on is the greek translation.
but my point still valid when i say the original text with the original language always better then any translation given to it.
MadNek 5 months ago
@MadNek Also part of the reason I may have misunderstood is that this is not the whole debate, where can I find the rest of it?
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
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@greyfoxzero
full debate
/watch?v=jDbOCKdSIR8
MadNek 5 months ago
@greyfoxzero While you may seem a bit scatter brained based on your comments some of what you say has valid points. I think its fair to say that in a debate one must use the original translation. Wouldn't the Rabbi rely on a Hebrew Torah? Then why not a Pastor rely on a greek new testament? To be honest I didn't expect to hear a logical response from the Xtian side but yours seems to be probable. The greek translation certainly appears to be a bit more clear in its wording.
rachelrobbshdd 5 months ago
@MadNek Also I removed my previous post because I misunderstood the question. My apologies for the previous post since I thought it was about who purchased the tomb and not the location.
greyfoxzero 5 months ago
I love this jew guy, he tells the truth
husseinkillos 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I agree. Messianic Jews are in fact Evangelists.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I do believe that the early christians accepted Jesus as messaih and as a god. But this is the very point they err.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I don't know what is the fuzz with Ishmael about. Torah makes clear that G-d's blessing is through Isaac, not Ishmael.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 We seem to agree on this one. :-)
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 My friend, Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away. G-d knows where they ended up. I know he has never been to Mecca but does this mean Mohammad was not a descendant of Ishmael? No.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I tell you one thing: the PERSON Jesus never existed. Atwill is right with that. And so is Carotta.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I see.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I have no problem with Mo being an Ishmaelite for Ishmael was a wicked man. Read the prophecy regarding him. Regarding the route: they perverted things in order to become chosen. Just like christians do.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 Comke on, even the arabic name for Yerushalayim is (Maqdis) Al-Kuds, meaning THE HOLY TEMPLE. Unfortunately for them, islam doesn't have temples.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 Quran? Why you always come up with that plagiarized version of your plagiarized NT? I don't get your point. Anyway, archaeology proves the Temple stood in Yerushalayim. There is even a wall of it left right there. What i say is that you cannot rely on sources by the same people who invented it. Get it? That's like proving NT - by using the NT. It is calld circular resoning. And it is worth shit. You are not serious. I read Atwill's book and he proved his point.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I am still waiting for a NON-Christian and THEREFORE Non-Roman source attesting ANY persecution of xtians by the Romans. It is easy tomake such things up, you know. You just fell for that. Atwill made no mistakes in his book. You didn't bring up evidence. Also, your english is crappy.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 What is your problem then? POST the mistake that "prooves Jesus is the Jewish messiah". Let's laugh together!!!!! XD
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 Christianity was invented in order to fool Jews in the first place. I keep on repeating myself and it starts annoying me. Why waste time with an ignorant fool like you? Go and gain some knowledge, seriously. Study CAESARS MESSIAH and carotta's book. THEN come again.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 1st: i don't give a shit about what muslims or ancient christians said about mary. Those guys are fooled into believing in a divine human. Sheer nonsense. 2.: Not one Gospel was written in Hebrew. They were all written in Greek. I do not care about the grammar as this just proves that the author might not have been the brightest person. Hence, yoh translation of the Gospel of John is shit as the original is in such a bad grammer. You kicked your own balls here. XD
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 True christianity IS pagan. A roman mangod, cannibalized scapegoat. Yes, please give me more references and TRY to explain to all of us why the NT was not written in Hebrew if of Jewish origin!!! LOL
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 Any NON-CHRISTIAN sources? You don't seem to get my point, do you? The NT turns people into SLAVES of the church. This is what worked pretty well in Africa also. Poor blacks - raped by christians AND muslims... :-(
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 Romans killing christians? I bet this is from Roman sources LOL!!! If they were to promote their invention - why should ANY non-Roman believe in it?^^
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 No paltalk, just youtube. Why post a video when we can discuss here also? LOL!
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 My friend, do some SERIOUS research on that and you will soon discover that Jesus never existed. He is a myth. And everyone believing in Jesus is false - so is islam also. They have their own agenda as to why they believe in him - in order to missionarize you guys more easily. They do the same to you as the Romans did to us. And you still don't understand it.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 According to our scripture, the messiah needs to fulfill certain prophecies which Jesus clearly failed. You need to study the Torah/Tanach first.^^ By making claims you just make yourself look stupid. Jesus was indeed invented by the Romans in order to missionarize the revolting Jews that expected a warrior messiah. This messiah was substituted by the "prince of peace" who in fact was the Ceasar. Romans perverted Judaism into DIVUS JULIUS - christianity emerged.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 I herewith ask you to bring forth references proving christianity is NOT a roman invention and that jesus is NOT cesar. Impatiently awaiting your HONEST reply.
rapartist43 1 year ago
he ripped him!!
relovly 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 The Masoretic text (and the Septuagint Version) identifies Hebron as the location of the burial cave (Machpelah) Abraham purchased from Ephron the Hittite (Genesis 23:1-20) and where Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were buried (Genesis 49:29-32). The Jewish Scriptures state that Jacob was buried at Hebron, in the cave of Machpelah, which Abraham had purchased from Ephron the Hittite for four hundred silver shekels (Genesis 23:16, 49:29-33, 50:13).
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 carotta. de
The evidence is overwhelming. Maybe you do some serious research?!^^
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 So now you admit the NT is worth shit. And still you prefer follwing that roman mangod rather than istening to the TRUE or of G-d, yet calling others ignorant. You're a funny guy!!! XD
rapartist43 1 year ago
@5Epheser11 And waht does the NT say? come again.^^
rapartist43 1 year ago
For those who seek truth about the origin of christianity, please visit my channel and check out the links.
rapartist43 1 year ago
Sehr geehrter Herr Kepfer :-)
Jesus was invented by the PISO family, christianity is the continuation of the pagan roman cesar cult. Search carotta for more information.
rapartist43 1 year ago
What about the fact that the mountain that is currently called MT.Sinai is NOT the Biblical Mt.Sinai which is in Saudi Arabia Exactly where the Bible points to it.
jimmmmybrady 2 years ago
It is Jebel Musa probably.
rapartist43 2 years ago
Right ,the mountain with the armed gaurds and the fence around it,Jebel al laws.
jimmmmybrady 1 year ago
yeooo go rabbi
HannahMateee 2 years ago 4
I would read on.
Christians have never claimed that the Bible came to us directly from G-D; it came to us via inspired revelation.
The authority of the Bible comes from the Church.
The Church has authority from the spirit; Pentecost.
Why throw out The Book of Tobit or Book of Wisdom?
Hkepfer 2 years ago
You should listen to what he actually said. Even if it were divinely INSPIRED - how come there are mistakes? G-d still doesn't err.
rapartist43 1 year ago
@rapartist43 Do a detailed I listened to what he said.
Come there were differences? Because Humans are not perfect.
Humans need authority; with its authority the Council of NIcea and the other key 7 councils; define, develop & clarify what is canon and what is simple error:
heresy and or key features. It was not only post-reformation theologians that discovered these errors; they were discussed, defined, developed, or excluded.
It the Church Jesus Christ founded that is the key issue here..
Hkepfer 1 year ago
Bingo more than one mistake tsk tsk ... :p
israeli0music0rulez 2 years ago 6
I just have one question: what VERSION of the New Testament was the scholar/Rabbi reading? Because there unfortunately have been so many translations from the King James and the origional Hebrew/Greek, that the translations have been erronous (bad, I know) that is why a Strong's Concordance and an earlier translation/even more than one translation, is a good idea. Doing word studies is a good idea, also, comparing the Hebrew/Greek/English in the concordance..
SuperScreamingEagle 2 years ago
please explain me, lol 4:24
TheVikingNinja 2 years ago 5
He is Israeli. He speaks English less fluently yet is clearly a thousand more times more intelligent and more prepared than his opponent. Making fun of his accent or grammer will not make the contradictions in Christianity disappear.
breeeegs 1 week ago
JEWS!!!!!!!!!!
TheVikingNinja 2 years ago 5
very interesting!
thank you !
77Merav 2 years ago 2
Lol, We,ve been down this road before. He the loveable Yossi Mizrachi, fails to mention the myriad of errors in the Tanach, funny but not fair.There are contradictions/errors in BOTH books.Lets all follow the mitzvah of being HONEST and RIGHTEOUS
hitobedut 2 years ago
So the Oral writting are not correct because of contradictions? The Christains he is debating is a moron. Why not pick a strong candadate.
paulgem123 2 years ago
step up to the plate then
BringersOfTruth 2 years ago
Yeah I do, and you keep bantering with BS and uneducated asides. BE REAL
hitobedut 2 years ago
nu give a contradiction since there are so many of them?!?!, oh didnt think so, cause there aren't any!
maximum802002 2 years ago
If you watch the rest of the debate you will see that the rabbi explains that he has debated the issue with Christians in the past, including one who had been a pastor for 30 years, and they still were not able to answer his questions
breeeegs 1 week ago