Further to the already mentioned I remember some years ago reading that someone had declared the history of Britain "lies, lies, lies". Was sceptical at the time but now often wonder and have also read that if we all knew the TRUE facts about the UK and not the authorised facts there would be utter chaos.
I have read evidence which suggests the Anglo Saxons were slaves (of The Romans) and that all the evidence is stored in the archives of the Vatican.
The book where I read this puzzles though as to where the evidence for this can be found on the East Anglian coast. Long since cleared away? I'am very suspicious of the way UK domestic history is told and notice that none of the mainstream books have corrobarating evidence that events happened the way they did. Don't know what to think.
@nuclearblastowns Some scholars used to maintain that the Jutes came from Belgium or the Rhineland because the culture of pre-Christian Kent shows many affinities to that of those countries at the time. It's now generally accepted that the Jutes did come from Jutland and the cultural influence came through trade after the Jutes conquered Kent and set up their kingdom.
@Haytime4justice The chronicler misread or misunderstood Bede, who wrote 'de tractu Armoricano', 'from the Armorican region', meaning not Armenia but Brittany and western Normandy. The ancient Britons were Celts who originally came from Gaul, of which Brittany and Normandy were parts.
Nice music for the video. It is not exactly what the music would have been at the time the Saxon invasion, but heck! Baroque music is good, anyway. Do you know who composed the music? Sounds like Johann Sebastian Bach. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@celticbattleaxe This sounds like Handel's Water Music...very similar to Bach.
Great video indeed. Recently there was a huge horde of Anglo-Saxon treasure unearthed by an amature archeologist. This find rivals the great Sutton-Hoo burial site of the Mercian King Rayd-Wald.
Great vid! All this new Celtophile stuff lately makes me angry. Yes, of course the Celts are a major part of British history, and in England their descendants can still be found mainly in the Cornwall, Devon, and Cumbria areas, but over the past decade there have been countless claims that the English are really just Celts and once had an Anglo-Saxon hierarchy. This totally flies in the face of what we are told by ancient documents concerning the A-S Migration.
@SaxonBrit I am not British and I feel the same way my friend is true British today have obesscion with Kelts not only in books but general media like videogames movies etc Anglo Saxons comparing to Kelts are left out a lot even Vikings have more spotligth I would say is a horrible thing since English woulnd even exist withoud the AS basicaly because the Anglo Saxons are the English!
Is like Germany out of sudden says that they were only Kelts descends and not Germanic
@ImperialGuard9001 Thank you. I'm half English and half Italian. My Father is from Yorkshire in east-central England. One of my Paternal Great-Grandmother's maiden names was "Waddington," derived from Anglo-Saxon meaning "settlement of the people of Wada." Wada Dux was an Anglian chieftan in the 800's A.D. in what is now Lancashire. Even with certain surnames, such as this one, direct Anglo-Saxon lineage can be identified.
I am not so sure if the anglo saxons are the english. Angles and Saxons come from today germany. there are still the romans, celts, normans and french left... I hear pretty much english scientists saying that the Anglo Saxons left almost no part in british DNA. I do not want to believe that, since I (as austro-german) see the english people as very close to me, but from what I always hear that english people rate the germans as the most ugly and unloved people. so maybe there is no relation^^
@000000AEA000000 No, we do not consider the Germans/Austrians to be ugly. We are said to be most similar to the peoples of Northern Germany. However, my real surname is from Norwegian, and I also have some Celtic ancestry.
@clemstevenson Well you maybe don't, but the prejudice of the "ugly kraut" is still very common in england. I see that everywhere. And if you go for some scientists, then the english are not most common to northern germans at all. And if you look at the Haplogroup R1b, then you might say that british are most close to french (the ocean was not always there, and both developed different)
@000000AEA000000 Firstly, the modern term 'British' is a purely political association (from 1707), whereas the ancient term 'Briton' refers the Celtic tribes of Briton. The term 'United Kingdom' was another political association, first introduced in 1801 to incorporate Ireland. It is, therefore, impossible to relate the term 'British' to the Anglo-Saxon heptarchy, as they only held a portion of main island that later became unified as 'Angle-Land'.
@000000AEA000000 As I have said, I am part Celtic. I also have a Viking surname, and I doubt that I would fit the Anglo-Saxon stereotype. Furthermore, I do not believe that there is a single race of German to compare us to. After all, Germany was composed of various nations, prior to political unification in 1871.
@000000AEA000000 I also offered my apologies to a Belgian, because my fellow countrymen had unfairly insulted his nation for no reason. In any case, I think that I, together with my fellow countrymen, came to Britain at different times, on a lot of different ships, from a lot of different countries.
@clemstevenson ?you must refer to other things then I do. I also do not understand your tries to educate me on guesses you made what I meant. 1: I don't know what I said about britains that does not fit in the context, I do know where the term comes from and what it is used for today. 2: I have not used any nation for something. I used the term "german" for a man. Since "germanic" is no man, it is a culture. Of course more persons of germanic descend live outside a country
And why do you mention belgians?(belgians are great btw).
And you said your countrymen would allegedly be most similar to northern germans, which is not shared by modern days english scientists, but you just contradicted that with your newer statement. And I don't think you have a viking surname. Maybe scandinavian... but a viking is only an old term for pirates of northern germanic areas, maybe you messed that up, talking about "up-to-date" terms (why again?) you sgouldnt do that.
@000000AEA000000 Just forget it. I was bored, so I was making idle conversation. All this stuff is a long time in the past, and it does not relate to my lifetime. My nearest interest is etymology, which is the study of word origins.
@clemstevenson yes. I would say we forget it aswell. I did not talk about you in general btw... as a person with a scandinavian name, you will surely be close related to any of those foreigners we are talking about.
And etymology... you will find a great source in the english language there. So many words....
Have a great time, pardon any harsh words or reactions.
@000000AEA000000 It's not a problem. I am involved with paranormal phenomena, and I have unorthodox hypotheses on the subject. That is where language studies are useful. I have actually used an English-German dictionary to interpret an old Austrian paranormal case, which involved a Rumanian peasant girl, named Eleonore Zugun. Eleonore Zugun was haunted. Consider the meanings of German words that are similar to the name 'Zugan'.
Further to the already mentioned I remember some years ago reading that someone had declared the history of Britain "lies, lies, lies". Was sceptical at the time but now often wonder and have also read that if we all knew the TRUE facts about the UK and not the authorised facts there would be utter chaos.
MrBabies123 9 months ago 2
I have read evidence which suggests the Anglo Saxons were slaves (of The Romans) and that all the evidence is stored in the archives of the Vatican.
The book where I read this puzzles though as to where the evidence for this can be found on the East Anglian coast. Long since cleared away? I'am very suspicious of the way UK domestic history is told and notice that none of the mainstream books have corrobarating evidence that events happened the way they did. Don't know what to think.
MrBabies123 9 months ago
Can't wait for the movie 'Monty Python and the Anglo-Saxons'.
clemstevenson 10 months ago
@nuclearblastowns Some scholars used to maintain that the Jutes came from Belgium or the Rhineland because the culture of pre-Christian Kent shows many affinities to that of those countries at the time. It's now generally accepted that the Jutes did come from Jutland and the cultural influence came through trade after the Jutes conquered Kent and set up their kingdom.
Oswulf1 1 year ago
I had heard a rumour that the original Britons were from Armenia.
At first I had a good laugh and then I looked into it. In the Anglo Saxon Chronicals
The Chronical starts by saying:
The island Britain is 800 miles long, 200 miles broad.
And there are in the island five nations; English, Welsh (or
British) (2), Scottish, Pictish, and Latin. The first
inhabitants were the Britons, who came from Armenia, whom btw are regarded as ancient Indo-Europeans as is our language.
Haytime4justice 1 year ago
@Haytime4justice The chronicler misread or misunderstood Bede, who wrote 'de tractu Armoricano', 'from the Armorican region', meaning not Armenia but Brittany and western Normandy. The ancient Britons were Celts who originally came from Gaul, of which Brittany and Normandy were parts.
Oswulf1 1 year ago
Nice music for the video. It is not exactly what the music would have been at the time the Saxon invasion, but heck! Baroque music is good, anyway. Do you know who composed the music? Sounds like Johann Sebastian Bach. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Great video!! :):):):):):):):):)
celticbattleaxe 1 year ago
@celticbattleaxe This sounds like Handel's Water Music...very similar to Bach.
Great video indeed. Recently there was a huge horde of Anglo-Saxon treasure unearthed by an amature archeologist. This find rivals the great Sutton-Hoo burial site of the Mercian King Rayd-Wald.
1488bill 1 year ago
Nice Video!
AngloSaxonBob 1 year ago
Great vid! All this new Celtophile stuff lately makes me angry. Yes, of course the Celts are a major part of British history, and in England their descendants can still be found mainly in the Cornwall, Devon, and Cumbria areas, but over the past decade there have been countless claims that the English are really just Celts and once had an Anglo-Saxon hierarchy. This totally flies in the face of what we are told by ancient documents concerning the A-S Migration.
SaxonBrit 1 year ago
@SaxonBrit I am not British and I feel the same way my friend is true British today have obesscion with Kelts not only in books but general media like videogames movies etc Anglo Saxons comparing to Kelts are left out a lot even Vikings have more spotligth I would say is a horrible thing since English woulnd even exist withoud the AS basicaly because the Anglo Saxons are the English!
Is like Germany out of sudden says that they were only Kelts descends and not Germanic
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@ImperialGuard9001 Thank you. I'm half English and half Italian. My Father is from Yorkshire in east-central England. One of my Paternal Great-Grandmother's maiden names was "Waddington," derived from Anglo-Saxon meaning "settlement of the people of Wada." Wada Dux was an Anglian chieftan in the 800's A.D. in what is now Lancashire. Even with certain surnames, such as this one, direct Anglo-Saxon lineage can be identified.
SaxonBrit 1 year ago
I am not so sure if the anglo saxons are the english. Angles and Saxons come from today germany. there are still the romans, celts, normans and french left... I hear pretty much english scientists saying that the Anglo Saxons left almost no part in british DNA. I do not want to believe that, since I (as austro-german) see the english people as very close to me, but from what I always hear that english people rate the germans as the most ugly and unloved people. so maybe there is no relation^^
000000AEA000000 1 year ago
@000000AEA000000 No, we do not consider the Germans/Austrians to be ugly. We are said to be most similar to the peoples of Northern Germany. However, my real surname is from Norwegian, and I also have some Celtic ancestry.
clemstevenson 10 months ago
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@clemstevenson Well you maybe don't, but the prejudice of the "ugly kraut" is still very common in england. I see that everywhere. And if you go for some scientists, then the english are not most common to northern germans at all. And if you look at the Haplogroup R1b, then you might say that british are most close to french (the ocean was not always there, and both developed different)
000000AEA000000 10 months ago
@000000AEA000000 Firstly, the modern term 'British' is a purely political association (from 1707), whereas the ancient term 'Briton' refers the Celtic tribes of Briton. The term 'United Kingdom' was another political association, first introduced in 1801 to incorporate Ireland. It is, therefore, impossible to relate the term 'British' to the Anglo-Saxon heptarchy, as they only held a portion of main island that later became unified as 'Angle-Land'.
clemstevenson 10 months ago
@000000AEA000000 As I have said, I am part Celtic. I also have a Viking surname, and I doubt that I would fit the Anglo-Saxon stereotype. Furthermore, I do not believe that there is a single race of German to compare us to. After all, Germany was composed of various nations, prior to political unification in 1871.
clemstevenson 10 months ago
@000000AEA000000 I also offered my apologies to a Belgian, because my fellow countrymen had unfairly insulted his nation for no reason. In any case, I think that I, together with my fellow countrymen, came to Britain at different times, on a lot of different ships, from a lot of different countries.
clemstevenson 10 months ago
@clemstevenson ?you must refer to other things then I do. I also do not understand your tries to educate me on guesses you made what I meant. 1: I don't know what I said about britains that does not fit in the context, I do know where the term comes from and what it is used for today. 2: I have not used any nation for something. I used the term "german" for a man. Since "germanic" is no man, it is a culture. Of course more persons of germanic descend live outside a country
000000AEA000000 10 months ago
And why do you mention belgians?(belgians are great btw).
And you said your countrymen would allegedly be most similar to northern germans, which is not shared by modern days english scientists, but you just contradicted that with your newer statement. And I don't think you have a viking surname. Maybe scandinavian... but a viking is only an old term for pirates of northern germanic areas, maybe you messed that up, talking about "up-to-date" terms (why again?) you sgouldnt do that.
000000AEA000000 10 months ago
I think you should calm down.
000000AEA000000 10 months ago
@000000AEA000000 Just forget it. I was bored, so I was making idle conversation. All this stuff is a long time in the past, and it does not relate to my lifetime. My nearest interest is etymology, which is the study of word origins.
clemstevenson 10 months ago
@clemstevenson yes. I would say we forget it aswell. I did not talk about you in general btw... as a person with a scandinavian name, you will surely be close related to any of those foreigners we are talking about.
And etymology... you will find a great source in the english language there. So many words....
Have a great time, pardon any harsh words or reactions.
000000AEA000000 10 months ago
@000000AEA000000 It's not a problem. I am involved with paranormal phenomena, and I have unorthodox hypotheses on the subject. That is where language studies are useful. I have actually used an English-German dictionary to interpret an old Austrian paranormal case, which involved a Rumanian peasant girl, named Eleonore Zugun. Eleonore Zugun was haunted. Consider the meanings of German words that are similar to the name 'Zugan'.
clemstevenson 10 months ago
@ImperialGuard9001 oh and btw... Half of germany is really in the celtic area, with the spring of celtic culture in culture-'german' lands.
The first known celts come from hallstadt. from where the culture spread.
000000AEA000000 1 year ago