@MisterPapageno, PaPaPaPaPaPaPappppPapaPaPaPaPaPaprararapapapararapapaParapPaPa.......me gusta mas la Marton! y aqui Domingo, bastante bien! ahahahaha!........parararpapapapapapapapaaaaaaaaaa!
Ghena Dimitrova is marvellous! She literally eats and makes Domingo disappear! 5:29 Look how he trys to shorten the high note while she would remain years on it ;)
Esta escena es un claro argumento de porque Placido Domingo no puede ser el mejor tenor de todos los tiempos (segun la BBC), sus notas son debiles y no llega al tono, en una epoca (año 1983) donde sus capacidades estaban en lo maximo, este no es un caso aislado, pues el 88 con Marton comete un error al final, lo que indica que Domingo solo llegaba a ese tono en el estudio, falso.Por supuesto no lo considero un mal tenor, pues tiene momentos sublimes,pero este no es su mejor rol.
Domingo is a great Calaf - but his high C in this scene. His Bs are fantastic, his phrasing and acting is great. Don't compare him to Corelli. It's impossible to compare to Corelli anybody in this role.
@31122051 amico mio se dobbiamo ascoltare il giudizio dei critici stiamo freschi....guarda c'è un detto che io trovo stupendo: "Quelli che sanno fanno, quelli che non sanno criticano". La Dimitrova è stata una grande e di certo non sarà il giudizio di un critico musicale a far cadere in basso questa grande Artista
@31122051 be grazie mille ;) l'importante è ascoltare con l'orecchio e con il cuore!!! Questo è quello che ho sempre pensato. Se un Artista è grande è grande!!! Indipendentemente dal giudizio di un "critico" musicale! A presto!!! CIAO!!!!
@31122051 Hai ragione amico mio. Purtroppo ce l'hanno portata via troppo presto. Mi raccontava il segretario artistico del teatro Verdi di Salerno,dove abito io,che nel 1998 la grande Dimitrova aprì la stagione lirica con Cavalleria rusticana insieme a Martinucci da noi, e mi dice sempre che loro per sentirla ancora meglio si mettevano dal foyer tanto che la voce era enorme e ricca di armonici. Inoltre mi diceva che l'orchestra,anche se pompava,non è mai riuscita a sovrastarla. Pensa un po'!!!
I heard Dimitrova sing an unforgettable Tosca in Rome. The voice poured out like a royal carpet embroidered with gold. No one could match her unique richness and power, not even Marton, whom I heard sing Turandot. Nilsson's Turandot was the ultimate Ice Princess, but Ghena brought both fire and ice.
Quote: 'Dimitrova had a voice that sounded as if it could break down the walls of any opera house. It was enormous, yet beautiful.' It is bloody true.
The greatest Turandot of all time, surpassing all of her peers by a Niagara of a margin, and since her retirement, there has not been one who comes remotely close.
dimitrova did not have the power or technique to make the high notes sound brilliant..she screams them out and she grovs a bit taller for every minute of this scene because her technique doesn't allow here to produce extreme powerful tones, like nilsson did when singing vissi d'arte laying down on the floor...;)
Joan Sutherland, Birgit Nilsson, Maria Callas, and Eva Turner were the best turandots. Ghena is good but she is in the relm with gweneth jones, alessandra and eva marton. they are great but not in the upper relm when it comes to turandot like Joan Sutherland, Birgit Nilsson, Maria Callas, and Eva Turner
I think Joan Sutherland has a powerfull voice but not dramatic enough to sing Turandot, that's why she never sang it on stage. Eva Turner is totally overrated and Nilsson was great but IMHO I prefer Dimitrova!
Don't think it's fair to include Eva Turner in this comparison. The recordings are poor by modern standards, though if one is to take the comments of her contemporaries seriously, she was a force of nature and would have been Puccini's first choice for the role. I like her pupil, Gwyneth Jones, very much.
@Royalorgans in what realm are you? in the realm of mental retardation ? what kind of comment is that? upper realm and lower realm lol is this a new fach system i am unaware of? am i in the realm of the outdated in singer classification matters? lol upper realm... *sigh*
si...ma nche lei prima del refrain "...principi che a lunghe carovane..." non riusciva a reggere la filatura e emetteva il suono sul parlato, seppur con voce perfettamente impostata. come tutte. comprese Callas, Tebaledi e Olivero.
questa è l'aria più difficile della storia della lirica
mi fa picere il commento di pucciniano45 che è evidentemente un un vero intenditore. sulla Dimitrova, che apprezzo, vorrei aggiungere che ha tuttavia il classico "vocione" impostato come si usa nelle scuole di canto dell'Est, e non sa "immascherare" e quindi gestire la voce. Che ne pensi Pucciniano 45? ciao
No need contemplating what if this, what if that. If you go for that, then Flagstad should have sung Elektra and Norma, Dimitrova should have been the greatest Isolde and Brunnhilde. And what about Bergonzi singing Don Jose , Walther, not to mention he could have made Eleazor the finest achievement of his career. All this speculation that that person should have done that, this person should not have nailed this is totally nonsense and uncalled-for.
Childstuff to say that one sings fantastic and the other lousy. Marton, Nilsson and Dimitreva are all 3 of them outstanding singers, only outstanding singers CAN sing Turandot. Dimitrevas high notes are not as impressive as Nissons or Martons but she has a much better legato in the lower parts.
Placido's voice sounds very opaque and weak in the last acuti and is completely overshadowed by Dimitrova's...while Corelli could have kind of smashed her (and him, and us :P)
Dimitrova and her Master (the soprano Gina Cigna) were the best Turandot because their technique of dramatic was perfect. Marton used to push her voice to much, what is totally natural on Dimitrova. Just seeing their faces to feel the difference.
dont lie to people about being the best turandot becuse they were not. The best is Birgit Nilsson and Joan Sutherland. Both of these singers had great voices and big voices. Joan sutherland voice was like pure gold and an angel flying on wings, Birgit Nilsson voice was like lighting. althought they are different sopranos, they are among the best.
I was in platea watching this Turandot in december 1983; if I'm not mistaking, there was Katia Ricciarelli as Liu, and Lorin Maazel as conductor. Mrs.Dimitrova was incredible, a bronze bell (Ricciarelli was difficult to hear from third order of seats, at opposite). Certainly, Nilsson's singing was cooler, more pure & perfect, her breathings do not break words as in Ghena; Birgit's singing was a silver thunder, but Mrs.Dimitrova gave us the best Turandot of 80-90's.
Sutherland sings a very interesting IN QUESTA REGGIA in her studio recording with Mehta, Caballé and Pavarotti, Pears; to me it's particularly amazing when she sings the words "Principessa Lou Ling..." her sound is full of sweetness, it's a nice moment.
In wikipedia, you can find he's dramatic tenor; but I don't know what he said himself... But his repertoir and mainly his voice are saying he's dramatic... I think
yeah, he's done lyric and liggero repertoir too, that doesn't mean he is one thing or another, listen to Corelli, or Jose CurA, dramatic sound is darker than Domingo's...he makes a lot of effort singing dramatic roles like Otello.
Who else you consider "dramatic" if not Corelli? And what do you think about drama? Domingo is a real tenor. But the highest roles are not comfortable for him. He sings here wonderful high B, but he has problems with the C.
Jon Vickers is a dramatic tenor in my opinion, Corelli is more of a spinto. Maybe we mean the same thing but have different mother tongues. However; I believe that roles as Siegmund and Parsifal is roles "in between", and Mr. Domingo is kind of the same, but in his better days he is a real tenor. It´s well known that Domingo had problems with the c every day, but he is still one the greatest singers ever...
Domingo is excellent in the 90 % of Calaf. He canot sing the high C in In questa reggia, and Nessun dorma is too high for him. But he is fantastic!
Of course Corelli was not "tenore bruto", but also his voivóce and the way of his singing I find absulutely dramatic. He could have been a great Otello, a fantastic Lohengrin and Tristan, I belive. Even greater, than Domingo...
He himself was thinking about singing Lohengrin, but he thought it's impossible because he didn't speak any German. And it was Nilsson, who proposed him to sing Tristan with her in Bayreuth!! We cannot imagine if he would be accapted as a Wagner hero, but I think is timbre would have sounded very interesting is theese roles.
Nilsson?! The leadership then (Wolfg/Wiel) and the audience were obsessed with details, using the right notevalues was essential, every step was planned, so as to fit into the 'allkunstwerke" so tolerance for singers bad habits was low.
Even if he learned German enough to sing, it's so less belcanto than Italian, Tristan is full of consonants that should be sung 'piercingly meaningful'. Imagine Corelli singing a resounding 's'. Never, and he knew it. Besides, the pay was lousy.
What's wrong with you,"mozzrt"? This touch and go, go and touch approach is truly tiresome. Should you want to learn something: about life and art, from me, then you need to behave yourself.
Fantastic rendition, but Domingo never even hits the C, he goes almost a half tone flat and only holds the note for a second...at least he didn't crack.
Dimitrova is the best. At this performance she is more than a wonderful singer: she is very pretty (diferent from the other Turandots...). This way, Calaf can really fall in love with her.
one of the best Turandot's.....Nilsson owns this aria and Flagstad...lol callas and Tebaldi..first off Tebaldi never sang this role...and callas was no Wangerian soprano she didn't have the tessitura for this...this role is sung by the age 40 and on wards when the voice has matured and taken on more colors ...Callas's (dramatic coloratura soprano) voice was shot by 40 or a little bit before...Hence she stopped singing roles in 1965 when she too knew this.
What on earth would ever make you think that Falgstad sang Turandot? She very certainly did NOT. Also, this role is not the same kind as Wagner wrote. Italian dramatic soprano parts have a much higher tessitura than Wagner. Wagner takes a big, penetrating middle voice with occasional high notes. Turandot is only on stage about 25 minutes the whole opera, but the reason it is so hard is that the tessitura is cruel, and she has to get over the orchestra & chorus. It's ruined lots of singers.
Additionally, the in the comment about Callas not having the tessitura, obviously oprah22 doesn't know what it is , because if anything Callas had the tessitura for Turandot. One might argue about the weight and texture of the voice, but if you believe that it should be sung by an Italian dramatic then there is an argue in favor of the Callas rendition...
uhmm THE MISTAKE WAS MADE by Domigo.. Crawss HORRIBLE... awfull but she DOESN`T: TH mARTON HAVE THE POWER... BUT IS NOT THE BEST at same time Nisson and tebaldi. The best sopranos are Jones, Callas, Caballe... but .. ITS LIKE THE MAN HERE says... YOU CAN SING IT.. OR NOT!! Dimitroba its so goood. Domingo craws here, at met... whererver... Thanks for the video. And sorry my foreing english.
I think this role is so difficult to sing that just a few sopranos can manage, afford and succeed in it. So, I don't care about the sterile disput on who is the best turandot. Either you can sing it, or not! Dimitrova, as Nilson, Callas, Sutherland, Caballè and Marton as well, can do it, every one in their own and unique way. The others (I'm sorry Katia, I still love you) don't.
I agree with you view. Marton captured on the DVD with Domingo is probably the most exciting Turanadot for me. Her prime didn't last enough very long unfortunatly.
An even more pristine version of Marton's Turandot is captured in the Vienna Staatsoper production with Carreras and Ricciarelli. Marton's vocal perfection is simply astounding. It was downhill after her Brunhilde in San Francisco.
I don't think that this rendition of "In Questa Reggia" has ever been surpassed by anyone else. I've heard it now for a first time, and it's also a first time that I've heard someone sing it so breathtakingly well. Brava Ghena!!!
She IS Turandot! The most fantastic Turandot ever. I must say that even though I love Nilsson. I discovered her when I saw the production from Arena di Verona. It used to be a clip of it here, but it has been removed. I strongly recommend it. :)
Domingo is very interesting. He's absolutely perfect till high B natural. But he always bad on this C. Pity! Get a big respect tenors like Corelli, whose heroic tone was combined with excellant high Cs. Dimirtova is fantastic!
is the best staging I've ever seen of Turandot, like very much Dimitrova, like her better tha Marton and Nilson... without compareing. I think she is not absolutely comfortable singing high notes, she ends them very fast, other turandot stay for a while in the high notes...
Dimitrova is phemonial. I am a huge Domingo fan,vbut he did cheat that high C. High C's were a problem for him, but when he nailed it. He nailed it. He even said that himself.
She sounds alot like a mezzo, but she is still no doubt a Dramatic Soprano. She sings this aria well. I have a dvd where she sings Amneris in Aida, her voice is huge. Her vocal range is impressive.
Mousey Domingo, totally drowned out by Dimitrova. So much for being "one of the most distinguished artists in the world of opera of the last century". Wake up, "Asmorit".
Well, he is, but not as a Puccini-tenor. It wasn´t good for him to sing those parts, especially considering he started his career as a baritone. As a Wagnerian tenor he is marvelous. Listen to his Tristan from 2005 with Nina Stemme as Isolde. WOW!
"tjaphrodite" please don't compare Dimitrova to either Nilsson or Jones. Jones, who, as a singer, is good for a laugh. Nilsson, while held in high regard during her career and beyond, is never really a great singing artist; she does't inspire the same way as, say, Schwarzkopf, Flagstad, Muzio, Callas, Lotte Lehmann, or Ludwig do. Dimitrova, while not in the same class as those wonderful ladies, is a much better singer than Nilsson.
how can you say dont compare when they sang some of the same roles, I wasn't talking about the impact her career made on the public, I just mentioned the facts and she's made her name, I dont have to compare the 2 those of you who listend to the 2 can make your own opinions, because alot of people develope opinions based on the popularity of the person
Dimitrova better singer than La Nilsson? I suppose you never heard La Nilsson live or listened to her Elektra, Salome, Tosca, Kundry, Färberin...
Come on, it´s wrong to try to explain who is the best singer. Just a question about taste. La Nilsson didn´t glissanded up on the high notes (only the last years when she passed 60) as Dimitrova and a lot of other singer do...
she's not a norma, but there are very few turandots, and she is one of them, right along with Birgit Nilsson and Dame Jones, they had all the notes SECURE and turandots iciness
@MisterPapageno, PaPaPaPaPaPaPappppPapaPaPaPaPaPaprararapapapararapapaParapPaPa.......me gusta mas la Marton! y aqui Domingo, bastante bien! ahahahaha!........parararpapapapapapapapaaaaaaaaaa!
millonety123 1 month ago
Domingo's voice is fine for Pang or Pong!
MisterPapageno 1 month ago 2
Ghena Dimitrova is marvellous! She literally eats and makes Domingo disappear! 5:29 Look how he trys to shorten the high note while she would remain years on it ;)
MisterPapageno 3 months ago 2
Una grandissima, indiscusso e senza dubbio, però non vogliamo dimenticare la Nilsson.
assindiastignani 3 months ago
Un soprano unico per quanto riguarda colore, tecnica, squillo e drammaticità...
ottima anche il coinvolgimento che trasmette in questo personaggio, credo sia la vera erede di GIna Cigna, sua maestra...
marcobenve 3 months ago
la adoro, sublime, perfetta...e c'è chi dice che fosse solo una grande urlatrice...mah
CastaDiva181 5 months ago
placido's voice is here nice and very loud but ghena is a bit louder and more of a bit better
05Mrstef 10 months ago
Dimitrova-Domingo:1-0!
abracadabranque 1 year ago 10
This aria always breaks my heart.
P1B1U1H1 1 year ago
Esta escena es un claro argumento de porque Placido Domingo no puede ser el mejor tenor de todos los tiempos (segun la BBC), sus notas son debiles y no llega al tono, en una epoca (año 1983) donde sus capacidades estaban en lo maximo, este no es un caso aislado, pues el 88 con Marton comete un error al final, lo que indica que Domingo solo llegaba a ese tono en el estudio, falso.Por supuesto no lo considero un mal tenor, pues tiene momentos sublimes,pero este no es su mejor rol.
seba18701870 1 year ago
oh wow, she's amazing
ChrisMagoo99 1 year ago 3
Turandot was from Bulgaria....Love Dimitrova!!!
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La DIMITROVA rimarrà per sempre VIVA!!!!
nohaylamujer 1 year ago 3
Domingo is HORRIBLE!!!
FeelinMinnesota 1 year ago 3
Gosh Dominga is HORRIBLE.
FeelinMinnesota 1 year ago 2
Domingo has so small voice,when is he singing with her:)
6sushi66 1 year ago 6
Domingo is a great Calaf - but his high C in this scene. His Bs are fantastic, his phrasing and acting is great. Don't compare him to Corelli. It's impossible to compare to Corelli anybody in this role.
marokt 1 year ago 2
This woman had the dramatic soprano goods for days.
iriisblue 1 year ago
Asia & Puccini's mixture ROCKS!!!!!
kdhcollection 1 year ago
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31122051 1 year ago 6
@31122051 amico mio se dobbiamo ascoltare il giudizio dei critici stiamo freschi....guarda c'è un detto che io trovo stupendo: "Quelli che sanno fanno, quelli che non sanno criticano". La Dimitrova è stata una grande e di certo non sarà il giudizio di un critico musicale a far cadere in basso questa grande Artista
matt7178 1 year ago 3
@matt7178, amico mio : sei fantastico ! ADORO i tuoi commenti ! CIAO.
31122051 1 year ago
@31122051 be grazie mille ;) l'importante è ascoltare con l'orecchio e con il cuore!!! Questo è quello che ho sempre pensato. Se un Artista è grande è grande!!! Indipendentemente dal giudizio di un "critico" musicale! A presto!!! CIAO!!!!
matt7178 1 year ago
@31122051 Hai ragione amico mio. Purtroppo ce l'hanno portata via troppo presto. Mi raccontava il segretario artistico del teatro Verdi di Salerno,dove abito io,che nel 1998 la grande Dimitrova aprì la stagione lirica con Cavalleria rusticana insieme a Martinucci da noi, e mi dice sempre che loro per sentirla ancora meglio si mettevano dal foyer tanto che la voce era enorme e ricca di armonici. Inoltre mi diceva che l'orchestra,anche se pompava,non è mai riuscita a sovrastarla. Pensa un po'!!!
pavarottithebest 11 months ago 3
I heard Dimitrova sing an unforgettable Tosca in Rome. The voice poured out like a royal carpet embroidered with gold. No one could match her unique richness and power, not even Marton, whom I heard sing Turandot. Nilsson's Turandot was the ultimate Ice Princess, but Ghena brought both fire and ice.
landofmurk 1 year ago 4
@landofmurk Please, consider to Gwynes Jones' too.
Bquillamus 1 year ago
@landofmurk Please, consider to Gwynes Jones' performance too.
Bquillamus 1 year ago
The best Turandot - feel the hair stand on end when she takes those unbelievable top notes - rest in peace Lady Ghena, we miss you
queenslanddiva 1 year ago 3
@queenslanddiva She was certainly the best of the ones I saw/heard live. I didn't know that she'd died and am sorry to hear it.
paulprocopolis 1 year ago
Una tigre o, se preferite, una leonessa inferocita che si sbrana il povero cerbiatto indifeso di turno. Grandissima la Dimitrova !!!
31122051 1 year ago 6
I prefer Ghena even over Nilsson - power + beaquty of voice. She makes mincemeat out of the all-time hoarse cr-r-r-a-a-a-cker!
DonPaolissimo 1 year ago
I love how the voice just soars, no effort, no problem, lu lin would be proud
Rattywotin 1 year ago
where was Domingo, the chicken's voice?
Doooku 1 year ago
She is one of the best opera singers.But Eva Terner is best Turandot ever......
muzetta100 1 year ago
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Quote: 'Dimitrova had a voice that sounded as if it could break down the walls of any opera house. It was enormous, yet beautiful.' It is bloody true.
TheWisemonkey8 2 years ago
you can not even hear Domingo when Dimitrova sings
alexejII 2 years ago 3
@alexejII The mistake is in himself - with Marton was the same.
TraVoiBelle 2 years ago
@alexejII good you didn't, because he didn't reached the high C, he probably sung a B, but not a high C.
RoOodOoOloOmeg 1 year ago
beautiful beautiful beautiful love it it's brilliant greeting's from ireland :))
beautifulskull78 2 years ago
The greatest Turandot of all time, surpassing all of her peers by a Niagara of a margin, and since her retirement, there has not been one who comes remotely close.
mannail888 2 years ago 6
marvellous ! great performance .
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dimitrova did not have the power or technique to make the high notes sound brilliant..she screams them out and she grovs a bit taller for every minute of this scene because her technique doesn't allow here to produce extreme powerful tones, like nilsson did when singing vissi d'arte laying down on the floor...;)
TheLanilsson 2 years ago
Have you ever listen Dimitrova in live ? Certainly not...
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I beg your bardon, she rather shouts. Singing is an other thing.
I prefer Nilsson, Välkki, Jones.
josphaleo 2 years ago
Oh, because the ones you listened do not cry out? Re-listen them well.
The partition mades that the singers scream.
Spieldenberg 2 years ago 2
wahnsinn, domingo kackt total ab.
wie konnte er die rolle überhaupt singen?
es gibt ein video auf youtube mit derselben stelle, aber mit eva marton.
da packt er das C auch nicht....
meines erachtens schon immer überschätzt!
rezila 2 years ago
A real marvel! A wagnerian power with italian technique. I honestly think she was the best Turandot...
yodavidnavarro 2 years ago 34
I agree.
TheWisemonkey8 2 years ago
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Joan Sutherland, Birgit Nilsson, Maria Callas, and Eva Turner were the best turandots. Ghena is good but she is in the relm with gweneth jones, alessandra and eva marton. they are great but not in the upper relm when it comes to turandot like Joan Sutherland, Birgit Nilsson, Maria Callas, and Eva Turner
Royalorgans 2 years ago
I think Joan Sutherland has a powerfull voice but not dramatic enough to sing Turandot, that's why she never sang it on stage. Eva Turner is totally overrated and Nilsson was great but IMHO I prefer Dimitrova!
yodavidnavarro 2 years ago 4
Don't think it's fair to include Eva Turner in this comparison. The recordings are poor by modern standards, though if one is to take the comments of her contemporaries seriously, she was a force of nature and would have been Puccini's first choice for the role. I like her pupil, Gwyneth Jones, very much.
bigstrongboy1 2 years ago
@Royalorgans in what realm are you? in the realm of mental retardation ? what kind of comment is that? upper realm and lower realm lol is this a new fach system i am unaware of? am i in the realm of the outdated in singer classification matters? lol upper realm... *sigh*
SiEtIn1 1 year ago
Totally agree with you, she's the best Turandot Ever...
chatochido 1 year ago 2
@yodavidnavarro
That's a great description of Dimitrova in a nutshell. Also with a Slavic edge on the high notes.
dimitrovajunkie 1 year ago
How funny to hear how she completely drowns Domingo in their joined phrase.
Lindow 2 years ago 5
It's good that she did...he cracked and split to oblivion. Tough moment for any tenor.
moorfan1 2 years ago 4
In questa reggia ,dove regniava LA DIMITROVA !!! IMMORTALE !!!
bodiloto 2 years ago 6
si...ma nche lei prima del refrain "...principi che a lunghe carovane..." non riusciva a reggere la filatura e emetteva il suono sul parlato, seppur con voce perfettamente impostata. come tutte. comprese Callas, Tebaledi e Olivero.
questa è l'aria più difficile della storia della lirica
lolablauengel 2 years ago
Pienamente d accordo con lolablauengel
PUCCINIANO45 2 years ago
mi fa picere il commento di pucciniano45 che è evidentemente un un vero intenditore. sulla Dimitrova, che apprezzo, vorrei aggiungere che ha tuttavia il classico "vocione" impostato come si usa nelle scuole di canto dell'Est, e non sa "immascherare" e quindi gestire la voce. Che ne pensi Pucciniano 45? ciao
lolablauengel 2 years ago
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That really was awful in almost every way.
sievep 2 years ago
No need contemplating what if this, what if that. If you go for that, then Flagstad should have sung Elektra and Norma, Dimitrova should have been the greatest Isolde and Brunnhilde. And what about Bergonzi singing Don Jose , Walther, not to mention he could have made Eleazor the finest achievement of his career. All this speculation that that person should have done that, this person should not have nailed this is totally nonsense and uncalled-for.
mannail888 2 years ago
Yes daddy, forgive us for displeasing you. (Actually I always wondered why Dimitrova never tried Isolde...)
mozzrt 2 years ago
I think ther are enough great Isoldes- Nilsson, M.Price, W.Meier, G.Jones,H.Behrens,Modl,
rogernldw 2 years ago
Franco Corelli is a full blown dramatic tenor and not a spinto. Domingo is a spinto.
dolicimani 2 years ago
thank u so much!!
i'm very sorry, but still answer: have you the whole content of that UNBIELIVEBLE performance? :/
wryrye 2 years ago
Amici, Be happy that in our time we've had BOTH great Turandots, Nilsson AND Dimitrova.
organdude44 2 years ago
Childstuff to say that one sings fantastic and the other lousy. Marton, Nilsson and Dimitreva are all 3 of them outstanding singers, only outstanding singers CAN sing Turandot. Dimitrevas high notes are not as impressive as Nissons or Martons but she has a much better legato in the lower parts.
I love all three of them.
mozzrt 2 years ago
You perish, "mozzrt". Keeping spreading rubbish and I"d kick your butt.
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mannail888 2 years ago
What can I say... She is absolutely brilliant! And I do love Domingo as well, may he not be such a dramatical tenor.... But he is Domingo...
tenorcarlos 2 years ago 2
Placido's voice sounds very opaque and weak in the last acuti and is completely overshadowed by Dimitrova's...while Corelli could have kind of smashed her (and him, and us :P)
cornificius22vain 2 years ago
Dimitrova and her Master (the soprano Gina Cigna) were the best Turandot because their technique of dramatic was perfect. Marton used to push her voice to much, what is totally natural on Dimitrova. Just seeing their faces to feel the difference.
TurandotFanatic 3 years ago 5
dont lie to people about being the best turandot becuse they were not. The best is Birgit Nilsson and Joan Sutherland. Both of these singers had great voices and big voices. Joan sutherland voice was like pure gold and an angel flying on wings, Birgit Nilsson voice was like lighting. althought they are different sopranos, they are among the best.
Royalorgans 3 years ago
How about you stop lying to people. Sutherland never sang Turandot on stage so she automatically can't be considered the best Turandot.
operamusicfan 3 years ago 6
Well, comparing Dimitrova and Nilsson is like the choice to drink water or wine. I prefer good wine and Dimitrova.
scarpia1965 3 years ago 4
I totally agree with you!
Ghena was superb!!! :-)
Sesto73 3 years ago 3
Bravo! You get points not only for your wonderful observation but also for your nickname (I love Scarpia). :)
vilabreze 2 years ago
Thanks my dear! So happy to hear that someone loves me. Tosca is still busy with Mario...
scarpia1965 2 years ago
then you need to get checked out if you think Dimitrova is a fine wine and Nilsson is water
tenor220 2 years ago
I already did. Dimitrova is like champagne...
scarpia1965 2 years ago
you need your hearing checked
tenor220 2 years ago
I think you need check your smelling
rogernldw 2 years ago
How lyric and fantastic you are!!
rogernldw 2 years ago
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Dimitrova was provincial in every respect.
SPTN58 3 years ago
I was in platea watching this Turandot in december 1983; if I'm not mistaking, there was Katia Ricciarelli as Liu, and Lorin Maazel as conductor. Mrs.Dimitrova was incredible, a bronze bell (Ricciarelli was difficult to hear from third order of seats, at opposite). Certainly, Nilsson's singing was cooler, more pure & perfect, her breathings do not break words as in Ghena; Birgit's singing was a silver thunder, but Mrs.Dimitrova gave us the best Turandot of 80-90's.
lojundolo 3 years ago 4
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Joan Sutherland is better too
Royalorgans 3 years ago
Sutherland sings a very interesting IN QUESTA REGGIA in her studio recording with Mehta, Caballé and Pavarotti, Pears; to me it's particularly amazing when she sings the words "Principessa Lou Ling..." her sound is full of sweetness, it's a nice moment.
lojundolo 3 years ago
How lucky you are so you can hear the live performance of Dimitrova's Turandot
rogernldw 2 years ago 13
Without Youtube, none would. We live in a fabulous time.
P1B1U1H1 2 years ago 2
I respect her alot for attempting this aria, But if you want to her it come alive, then listen to Birgit Nilsson, Joan Sutherlnad,
Royalorgans 3 years ago
the one and only Turandot forever. Ghena, your roles would never be matched!
boris1281 3 years ago 6
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Matt54e 3 years ago
Turridu25, what do you say about light spinto? He's dramatic tenor!
tomaskukla 3 years ago
He's not a dramatic tenor, he's a spinto, said by him, Corelli was a dramatic.
alvarogm86 3 years ago 4
In wikipedia, you can find he's dramatic tenor; but I don't know what he said himself... But his repertoir and mainly his voice are saying he's dramatic... I think
tomaskukla 3 years ago
yeah, he's done lyric and liggero repertoir too, that doesn't mean he is one thing or another, listen to Corelli, or Jose CurA, dramatic sound is darker than Domingo's...he makes a lot of effort singing dramatic roles like Otello.
alvarogm86 3 years ago
Corelli wasn´t very dramatic. Domingo is a very high baritone, with a voice perfect for Parsifal and Siegmund. Not Calaf...
dannymaestro 3 years ago
Who else you consider "dramatic" if not Corelli? And what do you think about drama? Domingo is a real tenor. But the highest roles are not comfortable for him. He sings here wonderful high B, but he has problems with the C.
marokt 2 years ago
Jon Vickers is a dramatic tenor in my opinion, Corelli is more of a spinto. Maybe we mean the same thing but have different mother tongues. However; I believe that roles as Siegmund and Parsifal is roles "in between", and Mr. Domingo is kind of the same, but in his better days he is a real tenor. It´s well known that Domingo had problems with the c every day, but he is still one the greatest singers ever...
dannymaestro 2 years ago
Domingo is excellent in the 90 % of Calaf. He canot sing the high C in In questa reggia, and Nessun dorma is too high for him. But he is fantastic!
Of course Corelli was not "tenore bruto", but also his voivóce and the way of his singing I find absulutely dramatic. He could have been a great Otello, a fantastic Lohengrin and Tristan, I belive. Even greater, than Domingo...
marokt 2 years ago
Corelli could never have sung Tristan, not in Bayreuth anyway, the german 'wagner' audience would never have accepted him.
mozzrt 2 years ago
He himself was thinking about singing Lohengrin, but he thought it's impossible because he didn't speak any German. And it was Nilsson, who proposed him to sing Tristan with her in Bayreuth!! We cannot imagine if he would be accapted as a Wagner hero, but I think is timbre would have sounded very interesting is theese roles.
marokt 2 years ago
Nilsson?! The leadership then (Wolfg/Wiel) and the audience were obsessed with details, using the right notevalues was essential, every step was planned, so as to fit into the 'allkunstwerke" so tolerance for singers bad habits was low.
Even if he learned German enough to sing, it's so less belcanto than Italian, Tristan is full of consonants that should be sung 'piercingly meaningful'. Imagine Corelli singing a resounding 's'. Never, and he knew it. Besides, the pay was lousy.
mozzrt 2 years ago
What's wrong with you,"mozzrt"? This touch and go, go and touch approach is truly tiresome. Should you want to learn something: about life and art, from me, then you need to behave yourself.
mannail888 2 years ago
OKOK. I'll listen more carefully.
mozzrt 2 years ago
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Matt54e 3 years ago
What a fantastic Turandot she was!
tehen162 3 years ago 5
Domingo was not impressive now i will go watch corelli and nilsson
TheRealEmit 3 years ago 13
@TheRealEmit Domingos voice cannot measure up to Corellis, but artistically he is skyhigh above the lisping manneristic Corelli though...
mozzrt 1 year ago
Fantastic rendition, but Domingo never even hits the C, he goes almost a half tone flat and only holds the note for a second...at least he didn't crack.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
Yes. I agree with you. And I will suggest Domingo to learn the C with you. Good luck!!
rogernldw 2 years ago
povero Placido...niente acuti!
robertocresca 3 years ago
Domingo's voice is so small compared to Dimitrova's.Does he refer to himself as a heldentenor?He's not even a spinto.
tonyantony 3 years ago
This looks like the Zefirelli production. Is it borrowed from the Met?
tenornmd 3 years ago
This is the original Zefirelli production from way before the one at the Met.
operamusicfan 3 years ago
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Her vibrato is way too quick and light on top for her high, dramatic notes to be anything near effective
latraviata1853 3 years ago
Bravissima!!! Dimitrova is the best Turandot, but Calaf's Domingo is poor, is bad..
sarado88 3 years ago 2
Dimitrova is the best. At this performance she is more than a wonderful singer: she is very pretty (diferent from the other Turandots...). This way, Calaf can really fall in love with her.
TurandotFanatic 3 years ago 3
um she is renowned for the role...and your point is in that lil post of yours?
oprah22 3 years ago
one of the best Turandot's.....Nilsson owns this aria and Flagstad...lol callas and Tebaldi..first off Tebaldi never sang this role...and callas was no Wangerian soprano she didn't have the tessitura for this...this role is sung by the age 40 and on wards when the voice has matured and taken on more colors ...Callas's (dramatic coloratura soprano) voice was shot by 40 or a little bit before...Hence she stopped singing roles in 1965 when she too knew this.
oprah22 3 years ago
What on earth would ever make you think that Falgstad sang Turandot? She very certainly did NOT. Also, this role is not the same kind as Wagner wrote. Italian dramatic soprano parts have a much higher tessitura than Wagner. Wagner takes a big, penetrating middle voice with occasional high notes. Turandot is only on stage about 25 minutes the whole opera, but the reason it is so hard is that the tessitura is cruel, and she has to get over the orchestra & chorus. It's ruined lots of singers.
BeauTenor 3 years ago
Additionally, the in the comment about Callas not having the tessitura, obviously oprah22 doesn't know what it is , because if anything Callas had the tessitura for Turandot. One might argue about the weight and texture of the voice, but if you believe that it should be sung by an Italian dramatic then there is an argue in favor of the Callas rendition...
Dymension 3 years ago
uhmm THE MISTAKE WAS MADE by Domigo.. Crawss HORRIBLE... awfull but she DOESN`T: TH mARTON HAVE THE POWER... BUT IS NOT THE BEST at same time Nisson and tebaldi. The best sopranos are Jones, Callas, Caballe... but .. ITS LIKE THE MAN HERE says... YOU CAN SING IT.. OR NOT!! Dimitroba its so goood. Domingo craws here, at met... whererver... Thanks for the video. And sorry my foreing english.
maurizio888 3 years ago
What language are you attempting? I'm not sure I understood what you are trying to say.
Dymension 3 years ago
I think this role is so difficult to sing that just a few sopranos can manage, afford and succeed in it. So, I don't care about the sterile disput on who is the best turandot. Either you can sing it, or not! Dimitrova, as Nilson, Callas, Sutherland, Caballè and Marton as well, can do it, every one in their own and unique way. The others (I'm sorry Katia, I still love you) don't.
ginlemon29 4 years ago 2
Prima Donna Asolutta
operachad 4 years ago
If you think that she was the best Turandot you didn't hear Eva Marton for sure.
viewofyou 4 years ago
For sure we did.
operamusicfan 4 years ago
I agree with you view. Marton captured on the DVD with Domingo is probably the most exciting Turanadot for me. Her prime didn't last enough very long unfortunatly.
spintotenor83 3 years ago
An even more pristine version of Marton's Turandot is captured in the Vienna Staatsoper production with Carreras and Ricciarelli. Marton's vocal perfection is simply astounding. It was downhill after her Brunhilde in San Francisco.
Dymension 3 years ago
I will look for both productions Dymension thanks. I'm a fan of carreras even after his prime anyway. thanks.
spintotenor83 3 years ago
sensational this was perfect in every single way wow her trumpet like sounds can pierce through absolutely anything
oprah22 4 years ago
She is best!!!!
fugu111 4 years ago
Ah, essa Turandot também nao tá com nada... Canta o papel como se fosse estudo de Czerny!
wlahmann 4 years ago
Domingo deveria ser vendedor da Avon. Como cantor só deixa a gente com raiva... Vai cantar mal assim na casa do chapéu!!!
wlahmann 4 years ago
I don't think that this rendition of "In Questa Reggia" has ever been surpassed by anyone else. I've heard it now for a first time, and it's also a first time that I've heard someone sing it so breathtakingly well. Brava Ghena!!!
barmanjoe 4 years ago
She IS Turandot! The most fantastic Turandot ever. I must say that even though I love Nilsson. I discovered her when I saw the production from Arena di Verona. It used to be a clip of it here, but it has been removed. I strongly recommend it. :)
Turand0t 4 years ago 2
Domingo is very interesting. He's absolutely perfect till high B natural. But he always bad on this C. Pity! Get a big respect tenors like Corelli, whose heroic tone was combined with excellant high Cs. Dimirtova is fantastic!
marokt 4 years ago
is the best staging I've ever seen of Turandot, like very much Dimitrova, like her better tha Marton and Nilson... without compareing. I think she is not absolutely comfortable singing high notes, she ends them very fast, other turandot stay for a while in the high notes...
141407078989 4 years ago
I saw her live in TOSCA. She was an authentic dramatic, and is wonderful here. For Domingo, though, the tessitura is just too much.
iriisblue 4 years ago
She was the greatest Turandot.
scarpia1965 4 years ago
And you are now the greatest Turandot. Congradulation!
rogernldw 2 years ago
Thanks a lot my dear. Please send me some flowers...
scarpia1965 2 years ago
I send you millions of my kiss!!
rogernldw 2 years ago
...hold on. I'll come to Russia soon!
scarpia1965 2 years ago
I am looking forward sending you billions of my kiss and my holding
rogernldw 2 years ago
Thanks again. Do you want me to fall in love with you?
scarpia1965 2 years ago
And yes, I know she's Bulgarian...
SieglindeMoos 4 years ago
Tehn why would her L be Russian? :P
operamusicfan 4 years ago
Because she sounds like my Russian teacher. It is, btw, my favourite accent in the world!
SieglindeMoos 4 years ago
Her russian "L" is cute...
SieglindeMoos 4 years ago
You would do it a lot better,isn't it? :-))
zehnoffbass 4 years ago
Which one, the Russian L or Turandot...? I think, if I could do it with a Japanese or even Bantu L, I would be pretty proud... :-)
SieglindeMoos 4 years ago
Dimitrova is phemonial. I am a huge Domingo fan,vbut he did cheat that high C. High C's were a problem for him, but when he nailed it. He nailed it. He even said that himself.
Yettamae 4 years ago
yeah he nailed high C's as much as I nailed your mother...stupid!!
songsofscarlet 4 years ago
You bitchy queens really get carried away. Lighten up!
paragod333 4 years ago
She sounds alot like a mezzo, but she is still no doubt a Dramatic Soprano. She sings this aria well. I have a dvd where she sings Amneris in Aida, her voice is huge. Her vocal range is impressive.
operaboy81 4 years ago
Mousey Domingo, totally drowned out by Dimitrova. So much for being "one of the most distinguished artists in the world of opera of the last century". Wake up, "Asmorit".
mannail888 4 years ago
Well, he is, but not as a Puccini-tenor. It wasn´t good for him to sing those parts, especially considering he started his career as a baritone. As a Wagnerian tenor he is marvelous. Listen to his Tristan from 2005 with Nina Stemme as Isolde. WOW!
dannymaestro 4 years ago
"tjaphrodite" please don't compare Dimitrova to either Nilsson or Jones. Jones, who, as a singer, is good for a laugh. Nilsson, while held in high regard during her career and beyond, is never really a great singing artist; she does't inspire the same way as, say, Schwarzkopf, Flagstad, Muzio, Callas, Lotte Lehmann, or Ludwig do. Dimitrova, while not in the same class as those wonderful ladies, is a much better singer than Nilsson.
mannail888 4 years ago
how can you say dont compare when they sang some of the same roles, I wasn't talking about the impact her career made on the public, I just mentioned the facts and she's made her name, I dont have to compare the 2 those of you who listend to the 2 can make your own opinions, because alot of people develope opinions based on the popularity of the person
tjaphrodite 4 years ago
How dare you put these words in your mouth?
Dimitrova better singer than La Nilsson? I suppose you never heard La Nilsson live or listened to her Elektra, Salome, Tosca, Kundry, Färberin...
Come on, it´s wrong to try to explain who is the best singer. Just a question about taste. La Nilsson didn´t glissanded up on the high notes (only the last years when she passed 60) as Dimitrova and a lot of other singer do...
dannymaestro 4 years ago
but as good as la nillson was she had not "italianess" so to speak in her voice and this is a more Italian approach
puccinilover 4 years ago
she's not a norma, but there are very few turandots, and she is one of them, right along with Birgit Nilsson and Dame Jones, they had all the notes SECURE and turandots iciness
tjaphrodite 4 years ago
This looks an awful lot like the Met production. Is it Zeffirelli?
Dymension 4 years ago
It is the same production, both by Zefirelli and the La Scala is the original one!
boris1281 4 years ago
el mejor "lórgolio" que escuche en mi vida.
martinzirolli 5 years ago
We must not forget that voices of this quality (Dimitrova, Jones, Marton ) are never produced perfectly via recordings.
Their total impact can be experienced only live.
This is grand opera.
accuratisimus 5 years ago