I was actually shooshed when I mentioned the word Communism the other day,I was told we dont use those terms these days.My response was "I call it how it is,fuck political correctness that's a communist term" Political correctness is a term designed to make you shy away from subjects you may be judged on I say,so what let them judge meanwhile I have free speach and I'm going to use it.I left greenpeace in 1985 when Marxist's took it over and pushed out the original creators of it,I'm glad I did.
American Tradition Institute is going after the Green Left - check them out - ATInstitute d-o-t o-r-g. For example, suing NASA & James Hansen (Gore's source for Inconvenient Truth). They are the NRA of the Green Movement!
More people need to make use of the definition of Capitalism: investmenting in knowledge, tools, people, and a place, and other necessaries to be used to the ends of wealth appreciation. Do it, . . . buy some tools, learn how to use them, make something, . . .
@baldinleepramer most reasonable adults see GW for what it is a scam almost 72%. Once the emails proving GW "science" was heavily doctored and threats made to scientist try to counter the GW view. The ideal that man can change the whole ecosystem of a plant is obscene. The planet goes through 50 to 100 year cycles it's done it thousands of times before modern man. If you believe in GW you are stupid plane and simple.
@baldinleepramer David Blood ex-CEO of Goldman Sachs and Al Gore started "Generation" a carbon trading exchange, green futures investments (GIM) on the European stock exchange. They currently have an office in Chicago for political action and organizing green movement. Why would they spend millions if there not gonna make billions.
@baldinleepramer GE one of the biggest pushers of green energy received $3,000,000,000 in NO BID government green contracts they made 5 billion in US alone there green tax right offs made it so they payed nothing in US TAXES.
What a load of shit. The environmental movement is about keeping our resources like clean air and water clean. The arguments are so weak I am surprised they find an audience.
Most research shows that Marxism didn't work and fell into a heap (see USSR plus all the others that STILL don't "work"). All these Marxists realised that they were falling into a heap and joined the Green movement to propagate their "Green" movement (which actually isn't green at all). I know plenty and plenty and plenty of people in the ALP left faction (marxist) who have now "died away" - where did they go? To the Greens Australia Party!
I love it that Liberal Fascist hate mongers are indoctrinated beyond stupidity enough to think that Pat Caddell is a right winger. He's only right in the sense that he's neither a fascist nor a communist but that's it. But Liberal Fascists are so beyond stupid that they cannot even understand that fascism was entirely a movement of the Left. They're so beyond stupid they cannot understand that the German Conservatives were the first to save the Jews, many of which were executed like Bonhoeffer.
BOTH of our Parties have left us. It's the PARTY SYSTEM that needs to be deconstructed. it has outlived its usefulness (if it ever was useful). Now it's just propagating BRAINLESS VOTING along Party lines, for Progressives on both sides of the aisle claiming "we aren't as bad as them"....that's all they have.
Time for We the People to THINK and VOTE accordingly!!
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Does anyone take these idiots seriously? Oh yeah. Other idiots do.
"The agenda of the environmentalist movement is the deconstruction of capitalism!"
Scare! Scare!
Let me tell you all something, Fox-watching numbskulls: capitalism NEEDS some deconstructing.
The lamebrains on this panel are using that old tried & true tactic of SCARING YOU TO DEATH! This red-baiting bullshit has been going on in the US since the US invaded Russia in in 1918. The baiters would like you to KEEP IN LINE!
If you are interested in returning to our constitutional roots then neither the Democrats or the Republicans are the answer. The Dems will lead you down that prim rose path quickly. And the Republicans just do it slowly and in increments. Stop thinking about being loyal to a party. Instead, think about the Constitution and the rights you were born with. Be an American not a Democrat or Republican.
You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it... when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans. That about right? You know it.
Pat, Pat, Pat ... please admit your party has left you. Come join us on the other side. You are such a fount of common sense!! And yes - aside from issues realted to voting rights & civil rights, the Democrat party used to have something. That is long since gone.
This is so interesting. I can actually see what they are saying. How the hell can we "save the planet?" That is a contradiction in terms b/c the planet doesn't need saving, b/c the planet will still be here when we are gone. what we really are saving is ourselves from ourselves. If we want to save ourselves we have to eliminate ourselves. Think about that.
The planet doesn't need saving, it can take care of itself just fine. We are the ones that need saving.
This is amazing. Anyone in our governments? Communist or Socialist? Any of these movements?
I'll spell it out. Though they're entire different things, whenever someone says a politician or a policy is "Communist" or "Socialist" they are using it to say "Fascist."
Anyone who says that there is Communism or Socialism in these governments and movements is either fooled by propaganda, or is proliferating the propaganda on purpose.
Communism and Socialism are the ENEMIES of Fascism, not allies!
wake up people. If you don't then the USA as we know it will disappear without a shot being fired. We all will be part of the collective with no freedom what so ever.
As someone pointed out the democrats are not your parents democrats. The democrat party has been taken over by left wing radicals whose goal is the destruction of the USA. Obama is part of that.
If the nastiness from both sides doesn't come to a screeching halt, and soon, it will only end in disaster for all of us. It isn't just Democrats who need to back off, re-think their strategy and act like adults.
The problem is that the right isn't looking in the mirror and examining their own assumptions and biases. Both sides practice positive liberties and ignore the negative liberties modeled in The Constitution. Both sides engage in political realism, while decrying the political realism of their opponents. Both sides declaim the sophistry and logical fallacies of the other, but neither side sees their own contribution to the political divisiveness in America. They all seek power and control.
Sure, the old "both sides do it" used by the left, when caught telling lies.
Actually, the fundamental differences between left and right (versus political parties in particular) lie in the basic assumptions make about life in general.
What is the role of the individual in society? What role does government play? What exactly is the nature of the relationship between government and the individual?
What do we mean be "freedom"?
By the way, what do you mean by "negative liberties"?
First, I've been described as a Jeffersonian Democrat or as a Classical Liberal. There are no fundamental differences between left and right in today's America. The only differences are in policies (the un-Constitutional laws they both promote and enact.) Anyone who claims differently is more a part of the problem than a part of the solution. As for negative liberties? Use it as a google keyword and go from there. Read Hobbes. Read Locke. Also see: "Online Library of Liberty"
Bush, given a congressional majority, would have partially privatized social security and medicare, expanded health savings accounts and made lower tax rates permanent.
Obama tried to nationalize health care and institute a permanent massive energy tax . He is opposed to lower tax rates, and has increased federal spending by trillions.
Bush appointed conservative Supreme court justices. Will Obama?
There are huge, huge, differences between the right and the left in America today.
The assumption being that the government has any business handing out 'social security benefits' AND paying for a private citizen's medical care. If you'll look carefully, the Republicans had the opportunity to make certain tax cuts permanent...and didn't. It's not a matter of fundamental difference between the two parties, it is only a matter of degree. You're arguing over the difference between two groups of big government statists. You're not arguing for freedom.
I agree many Republicans are as big government as Democrats, just with different groups to spend our money on.
However, there is a strain of Republican that favors more economic freedom. You won't find that on the left.
The reason Bush Jr. didn't go for permanent rate reductions, and settled for temporary, is that he couldn't get enough Democrat votes for permanent cuts.
There's a pretty big difference between Classical Liberalism and ideological conservativism, particularly as applied to Movement Conservatives. I'm talking about Mises and Hayek, even Thomas Jefferson. You seem to be talking about Buchanan, Gingrich and Reagan. There's a substantial difference between the two positions. The TEA Party wasn't set up to infiltrate a party. It's an anti-incumbent movement using every peaceful means available to it. When those peaceful means are exhausted????
There is also a difference between Disciples of Christ in the midwest, and Disciples of Christ in the deep south. And the difference is huge, to them. But, to we who are Buddhist, not so much.
Buchanan? I think he left the Conservative movement long ago.
But, of the "peaceful means" question, what of it? What do you propose?
@RogerOnTheRight Read and study the words of the founders. A good start is 'The Online Library of Liberty' and 'Liberty Library of Constitutional Classics.' For those who think that party politics is the only way to go and if you want to change things, become involved with The National Precinct Alliance. Think local. Village, town and city councils and county commissions. Run for office. Gather friends and fill the chambers every time there's a meeting. Become directly engaged locally.
Look, I don't know how you can insist you support the Constitution in some principled way, and still object to political parties. Have you not read the First Amendment?
"...because I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."
- T. Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson. March 13, 1789.
also: James Madison, Report on the Virginia Resolutions. Jan. 1800.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
- U. S. Constitution, adopted as ratified, December 15, 1791
"For those who think that party politics is the only way to go and if you want to change things, become involved with The National Precinct Alliance. Think local. Village, town and city councils and county commissions. Run for office. Gather friends and fill the chambers every time there's a meeting. Become directly engaged locally. "
That approach worked stunningly well for Obama. I hope the Tea Party movement inspires much more of that from freedom advocates.
Ok...I hear you. I understand you're completely correct. So what do you think we should do? Can you name concise things that would help us regain control? 1) IRS Form 1099-GOV for all entitlement recipeints and IRS filings, too. 2) All organizations receiving Federal monies subject to Freedom of Information Act, 3)
The Dems are not the party of your parents. They are fascist/anarchists hell-bent on the destruction of your liberties. THEY ARE NOT LIBERALS...THEY ARE TOTALITARIANS.
The country has crashed and burned. You can kill if off completely by continuing to vote Democrat.
Amen! The Democratic Party has been hijacked by "The Progressives" a polite term for communists. The Democratic Party of today is NOT The Democratic Party of our parents or of JFK.
Absolutely right. I was born into a Democrat household (parents both dems, grandparents all dems). I've always voted my conscience, regardless of party. As of the last couple of years, however, the illusion is over. Proudly Independent from now on.
I was actually shooshed when I mentioned the word Communism the other day,I was told we dont use those terms these days.My response was "I call it how it is,fuck political correctness that's a communist term" Political correctness is a term designed to make you shy away from subjects you may be judged on I say,so what let them judge meanwhile I have free speach and I'm going to use it.I left greenpeace in 1985 when Marxist's took it over and pushed out the original creators of it,I'm glad I did.
2wheels88 2 months ago
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2wheels88 2 months ago
American Tradition Institute is going after the Green Left - check them out - ATInstitute d-o-t o-r-g. For example, suing NASA & James Hansen (Gore's source for Inconvenient Truth). They are the NRA of the Green Movement!
vulgusvexamen 3 months ago
More people need to make use of the definition of Capitalism: investmenting in knowledge, tools, people, and a place, and other necessaries to be used to the ends of wealth appreciation. Do it, . . . buy some tools, learn how to use them, make something, . . .
phillipgaley 7 months ago
@baldinleepramer most reasonable adults see GW for what it is a scam almost 72%. Once the emails proving GW "science" was heavily doctored and threats made to scientist try to counter the GW view. The ideal that man can change the whole ecosystem of a plant is obscene. The planet goes through 50 to 100 year cycles it's done it thousands of times before modern man. If you believe in GW you are stupid plane and simple.
dieseldudee 8 months ago
@baldinleepramer David Blood ex-CEO of Goldman Sachs and Al Gore started "Generation" a carbon trading exchange, green futures investments (GIM) on the European stock exchange. They currently have an office in Chicago for political action and organizing green movement. Why would they spend millions if there not gonna make billions.
dieseldudee 8 months ago
@baldinleepramer GE one of the biggest pushers of green energy received $3,000,000,000 in NO BID government green contracts they made 5 billion in US alone there green tax right offs made it so they payed nothing in US TAXES.
dieseldudee 8 months ago
What a load of shit. The environmental movement is about keeping our resources like clean air and water clean. The arguments are so weak I am surprised they find an audience.
BaldinLeePramer 8 months ago
God bless Glenn Beck!! He woke me up with his team of real journalists and all of their hard work!!!
mabellehardie 9 months ago 3
@mabellehardie Lol
nystagmus 8 months ago
Most research shows that Marxism didn't work and fell into a heap (see USSR plus all the others that STILL don't "work"). All these Marxists realised that they were falling into a heap and joined the Green movement to propagate their "Green" movement (which actually isn't green at all). I know plenty and plenty and plenty of people in the ALP left faction (marxist) who have now "died away" - where did they go? To the Greens Australia Party!
MikkkkyB 9 months ago
I thought I was watching George Costanza from the Seinfeld show.
DAILEYericCaryUSA 11 months ago
I love it that Liberal Fascist hate mongers are indoctrinated beyond stupidity enough to think that Pat Caddell is a right winger. He's only right in the sense that he's neither a fascist nor a communist but that's it. But Liberal Fascists are so beyond stupid that they cannot even understand that fascism was entirely a movement of the Left. They're so beyond stupid they cannot understand that the German Conservatives were the first to save the Jews, many of which were executed like Bonhoeffer.
thomaserossi 1 year ago
The ignorance spewing from the comments of these left wing robots is mind boggling!! Baaaaaaaaa....all sheep being led to slaughter!
plang527 1 year ago
Yeah, because if George Soros is anything, he's a Communist.
LMAO!
Raford146 1 year ago
BOTH of our Parties have left us. It's the PARTY SYSTEM that needs to be deconstructed. it has outlived its usefulness (if it ever was useful). Now it's just propagating BRAINLESS VOTING along Party lines, for Progressives on both sides of the aisle claiming "we aren't as bad as them"....that's all they have.
Time for We the People to THINK and VOTE accordingly!!
RealDeal59 1 year ago
The same in Europa !!!!!!!!!!!!!
leftis / Jihadis / neo nazis fight hand in hand against capitalisem /free speetch /US & Israel
haim221 1 year ago 4
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Odd to see these Jews supporting fascism.
All I hear from these to fucktards are completely baseless claims.
Oh well, I suppose people on the right eat this stupid horse-shit up.
acidgawd999 1 year ago
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Does anyone take these idiots seriously? Oh yeah. Other idiots do.
"The agenda of the environmentalist movement is the deconstruction of capitalism!"
Scare! Scare!
Let me tell you all something, Fox-watching numbskulls: capitalism NEEDS some deconstructing.
The lamebrains on this panel are using that old tried & true tactic of SCARING YOU TO DEATH! This red-baiting bullshit has been going on in the US since the US invaded Russia in in 1918. The baiters would like you to KEEP IN LINE!
bapyou 1 year ago
If you are interested in returning to our constitutional roots then neither the Democrats or the Republicans are the answer. The Dems will lead you down that prim rose path quickly. And the Republicans just do it slowly and in increments. Stop thinking about being loyal to a party. Instead, think about the Constitution and the rights you were born with. Be an American not a Democrat or Republican.
hucklebearer53 1 year ago 3
Its a tragedy that there are not 307,006,550 views and comments here.
Chiangmai007 1 year ago 4
Exposing the radical lefts agenda needs to be shown to all. Thanks for your service to this cause.
careyyb2000 1 year ago
You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it... when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans. That about right? You know it.
EastLaw69 1 year ago
@EastLaw69 three words... progressive income tax...
HatemongerNTBSF1129 1 year ago
Pat, Pat, Pat ... please admit your party has left you. Come join us on the other side. You are such a fount of common sense!! And yes - aside from issues realted to voting rights & civil rights, the Democrat party used to have something. That is long since gone.
HonRevJoWazzoo 1 year ago
How could anyone disagree with what these men are saying? The Democrat party has been hijacked by progressive communists.
anneharpen 1 year ago 2
This is so interesting. I can actually see what they are saying. How the hell can we "save the planet?" That is a contradiction in terms b/c the planet doesn't need saving, b/c the planet will still be here when we are gone. what we really are saving is ourselves from ourselves. If we want to save ourselves we have to eliminate ourselves. Think about that.
The planet doesn't need saving, it can take care of itself just fine. We are the ones that need saving.
TheyFeedingULies 1 year ago 3
This is amazing. Anyone in our governments? Communist or Socialist? Any of these movements?
I'll spell it out. Though they're entire different things, whenever someone says a politician or a policy is "Communist" or "Socialist" they are using it to say "Fascist."
Anyone who says that there is Communism or Socialism in these governments and movements is either fooled by propaganda, or is proliferating the propaganda on purpose.
Communism and Socialism are the ENEMIES of Fascism, not allies!
battousai9439 1 year ago
wake up people. If you don't then the USA as we know it will disappear without a shot being fired. We all will be part of the collective with no freedom what so ever.
As someone pointed out the democrats are not your parents democrats. The democrat party has been taken over by left wing radicals whose goal is the destruction of the USA. Obama is part of that.
cwtex1 1 year ago 4
If the nastiness from both sides doesn't come to a screeching halt, and soon, it will only end in disaster for all of us. It isn't just Democrats who need to back off, re-think their strategy and act like adults.
wrb1957 1 year ago
Nastiness from *both* sides?
What in this video is "nasty"?
RogerOnTheRight 1 year ago 3
The problem is that the right isn't looking in the mirror and examining their own assumptions and biases. Both sides practice positive liberties and ignore the negative liberties modeled in The Constitution. Both sides engage in political realism, while decrying the political realism of their opponents. Both sides declaim the sophistry and logical fallacies of the other, but neither side sees their own contribution to the political divisiveness in America. They all seek power and control.
wrb1957 1 year ago
Sure, the old "both sides do it" used by the left, when caught telling lies.
Actually, the fundamental differences between left and right (versus political parties in particular) lie in the basic assumptions make about life in general.
What is the role of the individual in society? What role does government play? What exactly is the nature of the relationship between government and the individual?
What do we mean be "freedom"?
By the way, what do you mean by "negative liberties"?
RogerOnTheRight 1 year ago
First, I've been described as a Jeffersonian Democrat or as a Classical Liberal. There are no fundamental differences between left and right in today's America. The only differences are in policies (the un-Constitutional laws they both promote and enact.) Anyone who claims differently is more a part of the problem than a part of the solution. As for negative liberties? Use it as a google keyword and go from there. Read Hobbes. Read Locke. Also see: "Online Library of Liberty"
wrb1957 1 year ago
Bush, given a congressional majority, would have partially privatized social security and medicare, expanded health savings accounts and made lower tax rates permanent.
Obama tried to nationalize health care and institute a permanent massive energy tax . He is opposed to lower tax rates, and has increased federal spending by trillions.
Bush appointed conservative Supreme court justices. Will Obama?
There are huge, huge, differences between the right and the left in America today.
blue222blue 1 year ago
The Republican policies I referenced all return power and money to individuals. The Obama policies take power and money from citizens.
Republicans often abuse the constitution, but Democrats are far, far worse.
blue222blue 1 year ago
The assumption being that the government has any business handing out 'social security benefits' AND paying for a private citizen's medical care. If you'll look carefully, the Republicans had the opportunity to make certain tax cuts permanent...and didn't. It's not a matter of fundamental difference between the two parties, it is only a matter of degree. You're arguing over the difference between two groups of big government statists. You're not arguing for freedom.
wrb1957 1 year ago
I agree many Republicans are as big government as Democrats, just with different groups to spend our money on.
However, there is a strain of Republican that favors more economic freedom. You won't find that on the left.
The reason Bush Jr. didn't go for permanent rate reductions, and settled for temporary, is that he couldn't get enough Democrat votes for permanent cuts.
blue222blue 1 year ago
The problem with Republicans is that too many of them are not ideologically conservative. Or, as you would put it, "classically liberal".
Hence the Tea Party movement and other movements forming spontaneously, in an attempt to force the Republican Party to adopt a conservative ideology.
We have a two party system, wired to be such. The only solution is to force parties to stand for something, in principle.
RogerOnTheRight 1 year ago
There's a pretty big difference between Classical Liberalism and ideological conservativism, particularly as applied to Movement Conservatives. I'm talking about Mises and Hayek, even Thomas Jefferson. You seem to be talking about Buchanan, Gingrich and Reagan. There's a substantial difference between the two positions. The TEA Party wasn't set up to infiltrate a party. It's an anti-incumbent movement using every peaceful means available to it. When those peaceful means are exhausted????
wrb1957 1 year ago
There is also a difference between Disciples of Christ in the midwest, and Disciples of Christ in the deep south. And the difference is huge, to them. But, to we who are Buddhist, not so much.
Buchanan? I think he left the Conservative movement long ago.
But, of the "peaceful means" question, what of it? What do you propose?
RogerOnTheRight 1 year ago
@RogerOnTheRight Read and study the words of the founders. A good start is 'The Online Library of Liberty' and 'Liberty Library of Constitutional Classics.' For those who think that party politics is the only way to go and if you want to change things, become involved with The National Precinct Alliance. Think local. Village, town and city councils and county commissions. Run for office. Gather friends and fill the chambers every time there's a meeting. Become directly engaged locally.
wrb1957 1 year ago
Been there, done that.
Look, I don't know how you can insist you support the Constitution in some principled way, and still object to political parties. Have you not read the First Amendment?
RogerOnTheRight 1 year ago
"...because I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."
- T. Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson. March 13, 1789.
also: James Madison, Report on the Virginia Resolutions. Jan. 1800.
wrb1957 1 year ago
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
- U. S. Constitution, adopted as ratified, December 15, 1791
RogerOnTheRight 1 year ago
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"For those who think that party politics is the only way to go and if you want to change things, become involved with The National Precinct Alliance. Think local. Village, town and city councils and county commissions. Run for office. Gather friends and fill the chambers every time there's a meeting. Become directly engaged locally. "
That approach worked stunningly well for Obama. I hope the Tea Party movement inspires much more of that from freedom advocates.
blue222blue 1 year ago
There may be relatively few differences between Democrat and Republican parties, but there are huge differences between "left" and "right".
RogerOnTheRight 1 year ago
"Green Jobs - A patronage system for Communist"
exactly and the AGW crown led by the idiot Al Gore should be in prison!
CHANGEtheIdiot 1 year ago
Wow, spread this one around.
SpectrumRob 1 year ago 5
The "useful idiots" are the voters who keep on voting Democrat.
JeanJacquelyn 2 years ago 9
Ok...I hear you. I understand you're completely correct. So what do you think we should do? Can you name concise things that would help us regain control? 1) IRS Form 1099-GOV for all entitlement recipeints and IRS filings, too. 2) All organizations receiving Federal monies subject to Freedom of Information Act, 3)
SenatorMark4 2 years ago 3
The Dems are not the party of your parents. They are fascist/anarchists hell-bent on the destruction of your liberties. THEY ARE NOT LIBERALS...THEY ARE TOTALITARIANS.
The country has crashed and burned. You can kill if off completely by continuing to vote Democrat.
WrabbitWriter 2 years ago 39
Amen! The Democratic Party has been hijacked by "The Progressives" a polite term for communists. The Democratic Party of today is NOT The Democratic Party of our parents or of JFK.
EricCirca6566 2 years ago 27
Absolutely right. I was born into a Democrat household (parents both dems, grandparents all dems). I've always voted my conscience, regardless of party. As of the last couple of years, however, the illusion is over. Proudly Independent from now on.
WeAreGeo 1 year ago 2
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Horowitz is right on--as usual.
qworegoys 2 years ago