3 lethal doses of heroin and he shot himself? conspiracy theory my ass.... i dont buy um either but 2 and 2 aint five and if you ever tried heroin in any form then you'd know three lethal doses he could even lift the gun let alone pull the trigger
wow- u guys r really going to pinn this one on courtney? Nice - Get a life and quit slamming courtney and and enjoy the music - Accept his death and move on
I think it was a kind of conspiration from CL and her lover (in that moment). But anyway, nobady is going to do anything and I think that the police of Seattle didn't matter about the "suicide" when they have to.. now is to late, if there was any clue probably it isn't anymore. It's a shame, Kurt was the greatest of all the adges! LoveKC<3
@KurtDonaldCobain1994: Kurt's ashes were never stolen. This is one of many lies Courtney has put in the media. Her pr person said later it wasn't true. Usually Courtney's pretty transparent but I don't know why she lied about this. It illustrates she's a big liar though.
Guys, this is dumb. I always read comments like "She killed him" and stuff.. Can't you live with the fact that kurt commited Suicide?! Is it so hard to understand? Its like "Lets make Courtney to the black sheep, let's give her the fault". Fuck up. Courtney is one dirty bitch, positive. Get alive, stupid fans. Kurt is a legend but he was NOT killed.
your opinion is wrong, kurt did in fact kill himself he was a sufferer of bipolar disorder, and the drugs just compounded his depression, he was obviously wrecked for along time before he killed himself
judyleasugar is right nd the the doctor in kurts rehab said kurt was over the moon cuz his stomach had healed up and he was eating pizzas and more food now why would kurt kill himself when his stomach had healed when to only reason to kill himself in the 1st place was his stomach pains case closed kurt didn't kill himself
then a little after that she called tom and told him to search the house her denying his entry tells you one thing she wanted to give the killer enough time to get away
Okay point blank say he did kill himself. Explain to me how he would take his finger and pull the trigger when it was to far down to reach and he couldnt of used his toe because he was wearing shoes. For the record there was a man who admitted killing him its just Tom Grant couldnt get it on record, she knew he was dead in the house because courtney flipped on tom grant when he said he was gunna search the house
he killed himself. he said it in milk it and interviews. i hate courtney, like her band, but she didnt. all of the "arguments" have multiple excuses. just face it. i used to think she killed him to
@judyleasugar97 if you know anything about crime scenes, you would know that there is so much evidence of suicide. dont say "im studying criminal justice" because i know thats a bunch of bullshit
the finger print layout "even though smudged" shows that the gun was pointed at around a 5 degree angle, which is pointed at the victim. second, in interviews with people, kurt said to his limo driver that "i forgot to keep these at my house (these meaning shotgun shells). he said it is very important to take him to his home, and gave him 20 bucks to do so.
that should be enough for a simple mind like yours, but if you want way more info, please reply. i would be glad to prove you wrong.
@P3sticide: Obviously Kurt's hand was placed on the gun by the murderer to make it look that way. Kurt bought the gun and the shells because he thought someone was following him/ was going to break into the house, and he told people as much. The gun was a light load model specifically for home protection and it had 3 shells in it. Why would someone who is planning to shoot themselves put 3 bullets in the gun?
@judyleasugar97 then what was the "kurt locked himself in a bathroom with a gun threatening to shoot himself" which he admitted. and its impossible to "place his hand on the gun to make it look like it" because a 20 gauge shot gun would spray and hit the person square in the chest behind him. and why would he unload a gun? there is three shells in it. he had for security since 91. generally when you have a shotgun for protection, i would keep it loaded, cuz whats the use of an empty fire arm?
@P3sticide: The gun was purchased at the end of March '94 because Kurt stated he thought someone was following him/ was going to break into his house. He put three shells in it for protection.
Courtney called the police and told them that Kurt had locked himself in a room and was "going to shoot himself," but later admitted it wasn't true. Kurt never said he was. The gun shell landed the opposite way the gun port was aiming. Obviously the gun was posed on Kurt. A hit man could manage that.
@judyleasugar97 yes, but he had a gun (pistol or shotgun, idk) since 91. and kurt did say he locked himself because in one of his interviews "courtney made a b=huge deal out of this. i obviously wasnt going to." was he going to? we wont ever know. but in numerous interviews, he did say he was suicidal and "at times i just didnt want to live anymore"
The police seized his guns when they came to his house after Courtney had called them. He asked Dylan to buy the Remington for him so the police wouldn't take it. Kurt stated that he wasn't going to kill himself, he was trying to get away from Courtney. I don't really blame him on that.
@judyleasugar97 to be honest, i wish he did get murdered. it would have ment that he would have continued to create legendary music. but on the bright side. eddie vedder was also a legend. he still plays now, and less than 70% of people probably still listen to him. but kurt died, as the face of one of the best music generations. no argument will ever prevent that. if he or didnt kill himself, its not gonna make him live again. hes dead and thats it.
I don't believe Kurt was any more depressed than most people.There is one film clip I've seen (interestingly it is pasted all over youtube, hmmm) of an interview in which he talks about a sense of hopelessness regarding his stomach condition. You should know that he found a non-opiate remedy for the condition and was in much better shape the last months of his life
@judyleasugar97 i believe the number one reason he left that rehab was because, the heroin, was his aide for his serious stomach condition (which apparently has no name) but he didnt want to be a junky, but he was because of it. depression + people on your back 24/7 = nothing good.
You are very uninformed. Kurt found a non-opiate remedy for his stomach problem befor '94 (he was diagnosed with a pinched nerve). A lot of people who knew him said he was not on drugs the last months of his life. When he entered the Rome hospital they found no morphine in his blood. I'm afraid you have bought the Courntey propaganda.
Yeah, but the fact that he killed himself is what makes him such a legend. If someone had murdered him, it wouldn't be as legendary as he is, like r musicians get murdered all the time.
@slash778: How does suicide make him a greater legend? He would have gone on to do more great music and become even more of a legend. Your theory is ridiculous. Kurt's legacy has been trashed for the past 16 years.
@slash778: Learn to spell please. If the bullet landed the opposite way the gun port was aiming that means the gun was moved. So I guess Kurt moved the gun after he was dead?
I'm a huge Cobain fan. The guy killed himself, it's a classic case of a druggie committing suicide. All of you idiots speak like you knew the guy. Just accept it and listen to the music he created while he was here.
@jonzoid99: You need to look at the massive level of heroin in his system. 3 times a lethal dose, even for a very addicted person. No way he could have even pulled the trigger. And the gun was too long for him to pull the trigger while the barrel was in his mouth.
He Killed himself man. I know it's hard to except but that's what he did man. I love the guy like a brother, but he was just very ill. I have the same stomach condition and I can totally understand how much suffering that alone will do to you not to mention the depression he's had his whole life add in celebrity and there you go. They say suicide is what happens when the pain becomes more then a persons ability to handle it. That's what happend with Kurt.
You don't realize that Kurt had actually found a medical remedy for the stomach condition before the end of his life. That's because Courtney keeps this information out of the media! Kurt was a changed man after the birth of his daughter, everyone who knew him says so! He was not depressed in '94!
we've all heard the same theories one hundred times before about how kurt died. we dont care that you read "heavier than heaven" because so did everyone else, and we all know that he took too much heroin and he was depressed. so everyone SHUT UP, nobody knows how he died! you werent there you dumb fucks.
The only thing we know for sure is that we don't know what happened and the world has lost a very genious artist, and a lovely man who looked like an angel.
It doesn't matter anymore. The thing is that he's fucking gone. He won't come back, no matter what the hell we do. I could've been society's fault, Courtney's fault, or that Kurt was a disturbed person, and his mental disorders and adictions took over him.
It doesn't matter. It makes me fucking cry when I think that we let a genious, such a incredible person, slip away from our world. Along with him, a big part of rock died. And nowadays music is just, how can i put it in words? THE JO BROS
@mindriot94 I wouldn't say that music is just the Jo Bros because there are a LOT of good bands out there that sound nothing like Poison and honestly don't sound a whole hell of a lot like Nirvana. I'm thinking Linkin Park, Korn, etc.
Nirvana was just one of the plethora of bands that came out at that time that helped the world get rid of make up/spandex wearing men who looked like women. But music is a cycle.
But there will never be another Kurt. But who was Kurt really? Who knows?
That is one of the misconceptions about Kurt. He was not depressed at the end of his life. The idea he was suicidal is a myth propagated by Courtney Love. You should read interviews of people who knew Kurt.
Kurt was misunderstood. The idea he was manic depressive is a myth propagated by Courtney Love. He didn't have the symptoms of manic depression. I knew several people well who were diagnosed MD, I know the symptoms.
In many professional pictures Kurt was acting, something along the lines of performance art. If you look at the pictures taken of him by friends he is a lot more easy going and smiles. Quite different. Particularly when he was with Frances.
People with depression usually try very hard to hide it when they are around friends and family. And they can hide it usually. People can fool their family and friends for their sake when you have MD. And I heard the words from kurts mouth that hes been manic depressive since he was 9 its on an interview somewhere on here. He shot himself. Nobody just becomes a changed man like that I am sorry not after years of depression. And why write your own death note when you can try to fight a least.
He was misdiagnosed. It doesn't matter if he was depressed or not. It's not physically possible that he shot himself with a 3 times lethal dose of heroin in his system. Someone else pulled the trigger.
Ive seen plenty of people on heroin he could have shot himself for sure. Suicide is not that hard to do if you are depressed. Cmon you can see it in his face the guys is depressed it isnt a misdiagnosis. Also heroin will put crazy ideas into your head and make you act them out like blowing off your head.
I agree with everything you've written. You can tell by looking into someone's eyes. The sadness is undeniable whether or not they laugh and smile all the time. I'm tired of people saying that he seemed happy so he couldn't have killed himself. That's part of what makes suicide so shocking. Most people don't see it coming becuz they never really understood the person in the first place. A lot of people who are manic depressive try to hide it & use comedy to throw people off. The eyes don't lie.
you people cannot grasp certain mental states. you never will. stop trying. he killed himself. If you look at his childhood and look at the time he was in you would understand.
Kurt was unhappy at times in his life but those who really knew him agree at the end of his life he was happy. He was a "changed man" after the birth of his daughter, and he'd found a medication for his stomach condition. He was in much better shape mentally. Only Courtney says otherwise. You have to wonder about her motivation.
No, his stomach medication was a non-opiate. A doctor finally diagnosed him and perscribed it. People who knew him the last months of his life said he was off heroin, and his blood test when he entered the hospital in Rome showed no morphine.
I believe someone drugged him with valium (there was valium in his system) weakening him, so someone could force an injection of heroin. I don't think he injected the heroin.
There was a 3 times lethal dose of heroin in his system. That's enough heroin to kill a hardened addict 3 times over! He couldn't have picked up the gun.
There were no legible fingerprints on the gun, pen, box of shells and drug paraphenalia.
The gun was posed on him. And the shell landed in the wrong direction as to where the gun port was pointing.
Courtney was looking for a hit man before his death.
Hum..You really do have a great point there...Courtney was in LA when Kurt was killd..so how knows what the hell she was up to out there. For all we know, she could had hired a hit man.
Yeah, so much proof and there still are stupid pricks that believe he killed himself. The case needs to be reopened. It won't bring him back, but it will bring him justice.
conspiracy theories are for people,who just cant accept the truth,that their loved and adored idol killed himself. I love kurt, but,that was the sad truth.
oh my god. why don't u guys just give it a rest? the police and investigators called it a suicide and I'm pretty sure they know a little bit more about this stuff that you. now please keep your conspiracy stuff to yourself and just shut up please!
for godsakes people, kurt did not freakin kill himsellf. if he did, y were there no legible fingerprints on the shotgun? y was there a suicide note in courtneys purse?
lol i know me and my friend are like really intrested in this and we always resaech it. He wrote that though this is my account, he must have just gotten his facts wrong sorry about that
nobody killed him he was a great guy, he was a god on the guitar, but he had issues and it just goes to show u that fame isnt everything. figuratively courtney killed him she was a bitch to him.
RIP Kurt Cobain
you will always be in our memories and your music will rock forever
idk why but now these days everyone talks about kurts death or shit between nirvana and guns n roses seriously kurt died 15 years ago while GnR made a new horrible album point is nirvana still fucking rocks GnR dont rock as much as they use to in the 80's o drop it people -_-
I, too, am nearly a month late to reply but ohwell.
Kurt definitely wanted whatever was best for Frances, and Courtney getting life or whatever they give to murderers these days would have totally ruined her life. I think it's better this way.
And can we stop fighting about if he was murdered or killed himself. The poor guy wouldn't have liked that. Just accept his left us but keep him alive with their music.
courtney is a slut of course, and she just want money and she sells everything what can expose kurt and that all kind of things, but she can do it, she likes money, good for her... that is shitty too, cuz if she didn't sell everything about kurt there's things that you'll never probaly get to know, so, screw courtney, and screw you,
he's fuckin dead it doesn't matter how he died, if he killed himself he did it cuz he wanted, if someone killed him doesn't matter too, he wanted to die anyway. i'm pretty sure that he's someone really happy now, i hope so... he didn't wanted to go to rehab , probably he was going to die with so many drugs... the only justice that someone can give to kurt is let him rest in peace
Either fucking way, everybody i'm speaking to all of you. Kurt's dead. Theres absolutely no point in arguing on how he died. Sadly we may never know. But you guys act like you knew the guy just stop it. If you like his music than listen to it if you don't then don't listen to it. Simple fact. The man was an artist. But what is done is done nothing either one of you on here can do.
His music was becoming extremely Popular, he didn't like the publicity and he became depressed. of course he was drug fucked, but either way, i love kurt, he was a great musician
everybody says that he killed himself just because suicide may have been one of his subjects, but the case is there werent any fingerprints in the gun, what else you need to know?, besides, he was pretty happy since he had a daughter, you can see that he changed a lot from that, he used to say that she gave him life back
He was obsessed with Suicide, he used to tell people he didnt worry about being thirty because he would never reach that age. he planned to kill himself from a young age. Drugs mess up people, with or without a plan. Kurt was a great man and I am saddended by his death, but I believe it was suicide.
Until the case is reopened, no one can say for sure if he killed himself or not. However, there was a lot of facts left behind that would be a might big coincidence if he had killed himself. I don't care what your opinion is, but if you don't have facts, shut up
kurt did kill himself. think like this, his purpose was done, he had made great music and wat is the point of living with a load of money when ur done with ur life accept the truth guys
i think he did suicide, bcoz few weeks ago, before suicide he tried to kill himself, but he was saved.. So he tried again after few weeks. So I don't believe Courtney or somebody killed him.. (Sorry for my English)
I believe kurt was murdered, in a 1994 interview he seemed happy. WHy would he kill himself? I believe it was courtney who did it, or maybe kurt overdosed on heroin idk r.i.p kurt
u all act like he was a happy guy who got everyhting taken away from him. get your facts straight. the dude was depressed and drugged out most of his life. i love kurt but if he were alive today i think he would be pretty pissed off that people dont even blame him for his own deeds. he hated being a star for nothing. he thought he didnt deserve it
" It really sickens me to think that everyone assumes this... they think of me as this defenseless little rocker idiot that's being manipulated by his wife." -- Kurt Cobain to ' The Advocate', 1993
I think the best respect we can have for him is acknowledge it. Or else we can run around forever trying to prove otherwise, and be in perpetual limbo. Kurt was troubled, and with all the determining factors he left behind, I feel it was his conscious decision.
oh and INDLIS after you look at all the facts it is easy to see he didn't kill himself he couldn't of been able to roll done his sleeve and put everything up and then pick up a shotgun with 4 time times the lethal amount of herion in his system.. so fuck you get your shit straight. JUSTICE FOR KURT!!!
yeah i have no doubt in my mind Courtney killed him... i am a really big supporter of Justice For Kurt i even have the myspace as a friend and i really wish they would open the cold case back up and look back into it.. R.I.P Kurt
Courtney killed Kurt Cobain and took him away from nirvana fans so she could get the money instead of getting a divorce from him,It's easy to understand this comment,if not read it through again if you still cant understand then you are disrespecting Kurt.Kurt is a spirit in Nirvana hearts
I do believe Courtny did kill Kurt but it was not for money she already had so much of it she was also in a grunge band "hole" and she played in many movies maybe she did it because they were going to devorce, maybe.
i miss kurt cobain, RIP!! and i agree with the many saying that we do not really know what happened, but i think we can all agree that we absolutely love his and nirvanas music and we all wish he was still alive! but since he isn't, we have his incredible music to remember him by!! :-)
Kurt would have hated this, us fans being broken up in to groups. He was murdered no he committed suicide blah blah blah. He would want us to listen to his music and get along. Because it's not gonna change the fact that he's gone. In a way he never left, he's still in our hearts. I'm not defending anyone, I just think Kurt would want us fans to be at peace not at war.Please NO HATE feed back I've just voicing my opinion.
I am 3 months older than Kurt. I'm not denying that he had a heroin problem. I was sickened by it, when he was alive. I hated that he and Courtney seemed so out of control when they had Frances. My own child was born in '89, so I was a young parent when all of that was happening.
When I heard that Kurt had died, I was shocked. Not because he'd died. Because of when he'd died. The evidence says he didn't kill himself. That's the point I keep trying to make.
well lets agree to disagree. i believe he commited suicide and i dont think you can change my mind.14 years later i still listen to the music and i can remember his death and the affect it had on me.read heavier than heaven it shows him as a person and not an icon it is a very good read even if you feel it is not a balanced account of his life. i have read "who murdered kurt cobain " even though i dont believe it. it has been nice corresponding with you. some people can be offensive, not you.
You'd probably be surprised how many people attack me for my convictions. I don't see Kurt as an icon. More like...a distant cousin that I didn't get to know that well. We grew up under similar circumstances, so on many levels I feel like I get him.
I just can't argue the evidence. I'm guessing you've looked at it?
i get the impression that alot of comments come from people who were not old enough to remember kurt cobain. they just have a second hand account of a performers life and have latched on to the iconic image that has grown up around them. i remember kurt cobain.i was and still am a fan of the music. i remember the stories of how he was destroyed by a fame he did not want. this in the end turned out to be like alot of stories surrounding him to be untrue.and what seems to be forgotten isthe heroin
3 lethal doses of heroin and he shot himself? conspiracy theory my ass.... i dont buy um either but 2 and 2 aint five and if you ever tried heroin in any form then you'd know three lethal doses he could even lift the gun let alone pull the trigger
davejc86 8 months ago 4
It doesn't really matter how he died really. Because he is dead.
themachine122 8 months ago
CIA or Israeli Mossad killed him
1944ACE1944 10 months ago
wow- u guys r really going to pinn this one on courtney? Nice - Get a life and quit slamming courtney and and enjoy the music - Accept his death and move on
RevoSociety 10 months ago
@mindriot94 That's so true. It doesn't matter how he died now. We can't get him back. And that makes me want to die so bad.
littleme313 1 year ago
@littleme313: Dude, there's a lot to live for.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
I think it was a kind of conspiration from CL and her lover (in that moment). But anyway, nobady is going to do anything and I think that the police of Seattle didn't matter about the "suicide" when they have to.. now is to late, if there was any clue probably it isn't anymore. It's a shame, Kurt was the greatest of all the adges! LoveKC<3
liilaa11 1 year ago
His ashes were stolen and smoked apparently
KurtDonaldCobain1994 1 year ago
@KurtDonaldCobain1994: Kurt's ashes were never stolen. This is one of many lies Courtney has put in the media. Her pr person said later it wasn't true. Usually Courtney's pretty transparent but I don't know why she lied about this. It illustrates she's a big liar though.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
i dont care if Kurt was killed by Courtney or not, but one thing is damn straight Frances dont deserve to be fucked up because of her!
pedskon 1 year ago
whats the name of the song, in the beginning?
DrumGuitarDude 1 year ago
Guys, this is dumb. I always read comments like "She killed him" and stuff.. Can't you live with the fact that kurt commited Suicide?! Is it so hard to understand? Its like "Lets make Courtney to the black sheep, let's give her the fault". Fuck up. Courtney is one dirty bitch, positive. Get alive, stupid fans. Kurt is a legend but he was NOT killed.
MoonsaultTV 1 year ago
your opinion is wrong, kurt did in fact kill himself he was a sufferer of bipolar disorder, and the drugs just compounded his depression, he was obviously wrecked for along time before he killed himself
Tapicero111 1 year ago
judyleasugar is right nd the the doctor in kurts rehab said kurt was over the moon cuz his stomach had healed up and he was eating pizzas and more food now why would kurt kill himself when his stomach had healed when to only reason to kill himself in the 1st place was his stomach pains case closed kurt didn't kill himself
DemolitianBoy666 1 year ago
Kurt Cobain killed himself. There is no supporting evidence that actually proves someone killed him. End of story.
slash778 1 year ago
i wish people would stop saying that courtney is responsible for kurts death.
brownybum123 1 year ago
I wish people would shut the fuck up just because they cant handle the the fact that Kurt killed himself, not talking about you.
slash778 1 year ago
nice video i like it alot
redtelephone100 1 year ago
then a little after that she called tom and told him to search the house her denying his entry tells you one thing she wanted to give the killer enough time to get away
3R3BU5GAT35 1 year ago
Okay point blank say he did kill himself. Explain to me how he would take his finger and pull the trigger when it was to far down to reach and he couldnt of used his toe because he was wearing shoes. For the record there was a man who admitted killing him its just Tom Grant couldnt get it on record, she knew he was dead in the house because courtney flipped on tom grant when he said he was gunna search the house
3R3BU5GAT35 1 year ago
@3R3BU5GAT35 she told him to check the house dumbass. she was upset that he was going alone, so dylan carson came with her.
P3sticide 1 year ago
he killed himself. he said it in milk it and interviews. i hate courtney, like her band, but she didnt. all of the "arguments" have multiple excuses. just face it. i used to think she killed him to
P3sticide 1 year ago
@P3sticide: there is no evidence of suicide and lot of evidence of murder. All of the "excuses" of the pro suicide people are totally lame.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 if you know anything about crime scenes, you would know that there is so much evidence of suicide. dont say "im studying criminal justice" because i know thats a bunch of bullshit
P3sticide 1 year ago
@P3sticide: Okay, Einstein, what evidence of suicide is there?
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
the finger print layout "even though smudged" shows that the gun was pointed at around a 5 degree angle, which is pointed at the victim. second, in interviews with people, kurt said to his limo driver that "i forgot to keep these at my house (these meaning shotgun shells). he said it is very important to take him to his home, and gave him 20 bucks to do so.
that should be enough for a simple mind like yours, but if you want way more info, please reply. i would be glad to prove you wrong.
P3sticide 1 year ago
@P3sticide: Obviously Kurt's hand was placed on the gun by the murderer to make it look that way. Kurt bought the gun and the shells because he thought someone was following him/ was going to break into the house, and he told people as much. The gun was a light load model specifically for home protection and it had 3 shells in it. Why would someone who is planning to shoot themselves put 3 bullets in the gun?
You haven't proven me wrong.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 then what was the "kurt locked himself in a bathroom with a gun threatening to shoot himself" which he admitted. and its impossible to "place his hand on the gun to make it look like it" because a 20 gauge shot gun would spray and hit the person square in the chest behind him. and why would he unload a gun? there is three shells in it. he had for security since 91. generally when you have a shotgun for protection, i would keep it loaded, cuz whats the use of an empty fire arm?
P3sticide 1 year ago
@P3sticide: The gun was purchased at the end of March '94 because Kurt stated he thought someone was following him/ was going to break into his house. He put three shells in it for protection.
Courtney called the police and told them that Kurt had locked himself in a room and was "going to shoot himself," but later admitted it wasn't true. Kurt never said he was. The gun shell landed the opposite way the gun port was aiming. Obviously the gun was posed on Kurt. A hit man could manage that.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 yes, but he had a gun (pistol or shotgun, idk) since 91. and kurt did say he locked himself because in one of his interviews "courtney made a b=huge deal out of this. i obviously wasnt going to." was he going to? we wont ever know. but in numerous interviews, he did say he was suicidal and "at times i just didnt want to live anymore"
P3sticide 1 year ago
The police seized his guns when they came to his house after Courtney had called them. He asked Dylan to buy the Remington for him so the police wouldn't take it. Kurt stated that he wasn't going to kill himself, he was trying to get away from Courtney. I don't really blame him on that.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 to be honest, i wish he did get murdered. it would have ment that he would have continued to create legendary music. but on the bright side. eddie vedder was also a legend. he still plays now, and less than 70% of people probably still listen to him. but kurt died, as the face of one of the best music generations. no argument will ever prevent that. if he or didnt kill himself, its not gonna make him live again. hes dead and thats it.
P3sticide 1 year ago
I don't believe Kurt was any more depressed than most people.There is one film clip I've seen (interestingly it is pasted all over youtube, hmmm) of an interview in which he talks about a sense of hopelessness regarding his stomach condition. You should know that he found a non-opiate remedy for the condition and was in much better shape the last months of his life
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 i believe the number one reason he left that rehab was because, the heroin, was his aide for his serious stomach condition (which apparently has no name) but he didnt want to be a junky, but he was because of it. depression + people on your back 24/7 = nothing good.
P3sticide 1 year ago
You are very uninformed. Kurt found a non-opiate remedy for his stomach problem befor '94 (he was diagnosed with a pinched nerve). A lot of people who knew him said he was not on drugs the last months of his life. When he entered the Rome hospital they found no morphine in his blood. I'm afraid you have bought the Courntey propaganda.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
Yeah, but the fact that he killed himself is what makes him such a legend. If someone had murdered him, it wouldn't be as legendary as he is, like r musicians get murdered all the time.
slash778 1 year ago
@slash778: How does suicide make him a greater legend? He would have gone on to do more great music and become even more of a legend. Your theory is ridiculous. Kurt's legacy has been trashed for the past 16 years.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
Really? People remember him now more than ever.
slash778 1 year ago
Um, John Lennon?
GoofyGriff 1 year ago
What about John Lennon?
slash778 1 year ago
He killed himself. So what if the shell landed on the left of him. That doent prove that someone killed him.
slash778 1 year ago
@slash778: Learn to spell please. If the bullet landed the opposite way the gun port was aiming that means the gun was moved. So I guess Kurt moved the gun after he was dead?
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
No. How would you know that the bullet was on the left of him. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but theres nothing saying he killed himself.
slash778 1 year ago
@slash778: Read the police report. You can google it on the web.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 How the hell do you know he didn't have the rifle held on its side when he fired it? All these conspiracy theories are bullshit.
RichL123 1 year ago
The blast from the riffle would have thrown it off of him. Just one of many problems with the crime scene.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
I'm a huge Cobain fan. The guy killed himself, it's a classic case of a druggie committing suicide. All of you idiots speak like you knew the guy. Just accept it and listen to the music he created while he was here.
NirvanaCanada speaks truth.
jonzoid99 2 years ago
@jonzoid99: You need to look at the massive level of heroin in his system. 3 times a lethal dose, even for a very addicted person. No way he could have even pulled the trigger. And the gun was too long for him to pull the trigger while the barrel was in his mouth.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
If Kirkt had worked at Taco Bell, he would still be alive today. I explain why
uyg2008 2 years ago
He Killed himself man. I know it's hard to except but that's what he did man. I love the guy like a brother, but he was just very ill. I have the same stomach condition and I can totally understand how much suffering that alone will do to you not to mention the depression he's had his whole life add in celebrity and there you go. They say suicide is what happens when the pain becomes more then a persons ability to handle it. That's what happend with Kurt.
CobainLennon8094 2 years ago
You don't realize that Kurt had actually found a medical remedy for the stomach condition before the end of his life. That's because Courtney keeps this information out of the media! Kurt was a changed man after the birth of his daughter, everyone who knew him says so! He was not depressed in '94!
judyleasugar97 2 years ago
COURTNEY OFFED HIM
JordanVANNA 2 years ago
we've all heard the same theories one hundred times before about how kurt died. we dont care that you read "heavier than heaven" because so did everyone else, and we all know that he took too much heroin and he was depressed. so everyone SHUT UP, nobody knows how he died! you werent there you dumb fucks.
NirvanaCanada 2 years ago
lol yup
shadyworld666 2 years ago
The only thing we know for sure is that we don't know what happened and the world has lost a very genious artist, and a lovely man who looked like an angel.
R.I.P. Kurt.
NamasteNirvana 2 years ago 2
It doesn't matter anymore. The thing is that he's fucking gone. He won't come back, no matter what the hell we do. I could've been society's fault, Courtney's fault, or that Kurt was a disturbed person, and his mental disorders and adictions took over him.
It doesn't matter. It makes me fucking cry when I think that we let a genious, such a incredible person, slip away from our world. Along with him, a big part of rock died. And nowadays music is just, how can i put it in words? THE JO BROS
mindriot94 2 years ago 29
@mindriot94 I can't agree more! I have waited a long time for someone to say the same thing!
TakenokoSensei 1 year ago
@mindriot94 and dont forget justin B and Miley cyrus :S
Nirvana 4ever...
joaoviegasv 1 year ago
@mindriot94 I wouldn't say that music is just the Jo Bros because there are a LOT of good bands out there that sound nothing like Poison and honestly don't sound a whole hell of a lot like Nirvana. I'm thinking Linkin Park, Korn, etc.
Nirvana was just one of the plethora of bands that came out at that time that helped the world get rid of make up/spandex wearing men who looked like women. But music is a cycle.
But there will never be another Kurt. But who was Kurt really? Who knows?
dimeacyd 1 year ago
@ mindriot94 yes your right .... I'm agree.
polferx 1 year ago
@mindriot94 And J***** B****r , i dont wanna spoil the comments with his name.
SyncThird 1 year ago
im mad that they stop the investigation on it.... why? not important enough anymore?
ExtraStrings 2 years ago 2
stupid fucking conspiracy theorists. Yeah the illuminati came into his window, shot him, then make it look like a suicide.
JimB667 2 years ago
Remember when Bobby Boucher showed up at halftime and the Mud Dogs won the Bourbon Bowl?
styrofoamtomato 2 years ago 2
Suicide or not it was a 'tragric existance' he was really depressed
BleedingScarlet666 2 years ago 2
That is one of the misconceptions about Kurt. He was not depressed at the end of his life. The idea he was suicidal is a myth propagated by Courtney Love. You should read interviews of people who knew Kurt.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago 2
look at his face for god sakes hes been manic depressive since he was 9
th3planetsghost 2 years ago
Kurt was misunderstood. The idea he was manic depressive is a myth propagated by Courtney Love. He didn't have the symptoms of manic depression. I knew several people well who were diagnosed MD, I know the symptoms.
In many professional pictures Kurt was acting, something along the lines of performance art. If you look at the pictures taken of him by friends he is a lot more easy going and smiles. Quite different. Particularly when he was with Frances.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago 2
People with depression usually try very hard to hide it when they are around friends and family. And they can hide it usually. People can fool their family and friends for their sake when you have MD. And I heard the words from kurts mouth that hes been manic depressive since he was 9 its on an interview somewhere on here. He shot himself. Nobody just becomes a changed man like that I am sorry not after years of depression. And why write your own death note when you can try to fight a least.
th3planetsghost 2 years ago
He was misdiagnosed. It doesn't matter if he was depressed or not. It's not physically possible that he shot himself with a 3 times lethal dose of heroin in his system. Someone else pulled the trigger.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago 2
Ive seen plenty of people on heroin he could have shot himself for sure. Suicide is not that hard to do if you are depressed. Cmon you can see it in his face the guys is depressed it isnt a misdiagnosis. Also heroin will put crazy ideas into your head and make you act them out like blowing off your head.
th3planetsghost 2 years ago
You didn't listen to what I just said. Whether plausible or not -- NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE in this case.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago
I agree with everything you've written. You can tell by looking into someone's eyes. The sadness is undeniable whether or not they laugh and smile all the time. I'm tired of people saying that he seemed happy so he couldn't have killed himself. That's part of what makes suicide so shocking. Most people don't see it coming becuz they never really understood the person in the first place. A lot of people who are manic depressive try to hide it & use comedy to throw people off. The eyes don't lie.
crazymusiclady1 2 years ago
you people cannot grasp certain mental states. you never will. stop trying. he killed himself. If you look at his childhood and look at the time he was in you would understand.
th3planetsghost 2 years ago
Kurt was unhappy at times in his life but those who really knew him agree at the end of his life he was happy. He was a "changed man" after the birth of his daughter, and he'd found a medication for his stomach condition. He was in much better shape mentally. Only Courtney says otherwise. You have to wonder about her motivation.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago 2
the medication he " found" was heroin dude. he had been depressed since he was 9 and been a heroin addict couldnt have helped him much. i love kurt
SamsTown68 2 years ago
No, his stomach medication was a non-opiate. A doctor finally diagnosed him and perscribed it. People who knew him the last months of his life said he was off heroin, and his blood test when he entered the hospital in Rome showed no morphine.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago
No. When he died they found 3 times the lethal dose of heroin in his blood stream.
TheToastBrothers 2 years ago
I realize that. What is your point?
judyleasugar97 2 years ago
The guy said he stopped heroin in the last couple of weeks of his life.
TheToastBrothers 2 years ago
I believe someone drugged him with valium (there was valium in his system) weakening him, so someone could force an injection of heroin. I don't think he injected the heroin.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago
he died from an overdose of heroin. he had three times the leathal amount in his system.
gearsofwar131 2 years ago
man it's too sad see that kind of videos.........Kurt is my hero of all music
032392elchino 2 years ago
wish i had the guts to kill myself too
the guy was a brave
milanbaros555 2 years ago
You would be killing yourself for nothing. Kurt did not commit suicide. He was murdered.
judyleasugar97 2 years ago
kurt was so fucking sexy, what kind of bitch would want to kill him?
rachelistheshitt 2 years ago
One who wanted HIS money
Studas2006 2 years ago
Kurt Cobain was murdered.
There was a 3 times lethal dose of heroin in his system. That's enough heroin to kill a hardened addict 3 times over! He couldn't have picked up the gun.
There were no legible fingerprints on the gun, pen, box of shells and drug paraphenalia.
The gun was posed on him. And the shell landed in the wrong direction as to where the gun port was pointing.
Courtney was looking for a hit man before his death.
This investigation needs to be reopened!
judyleasugar97 2 years ago 4
Hum..You really do have a great point there...Courtney was in LA when Kurt was killd..so how knows what the hell she was up to out there. For all we know, she could had hired a hit man.
maddie4747 2 years ago 2
Yeah, so much proof and there still are stupid pricks that believe he killed himself. The case needs to be reopened. It won't bring him back, but it will bring him justice.
babydoll1691 2 years ago
conspiracy theories are for people,who just cant accept the truth,that their loved and adored idol killed himself. I love kurt, but,that was the sad truth.
grafiene 2 years ago 8
I agree. But I think his involvement with Courtney facilitated his death.
no1zgrl4eva 2 years ago
@grafiene that is so true!
sodagirl96 9 months ago
oh my god. why don't u guys just give it a rest? the police and investigators called it a suicide and I'm pretty sure they know a little bit more about this stuff that you. now please keep your conspiracy stuff to yourself and just shut up please!
DangoTeff 2 years ago
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wvuusa07 2 years ago
if you are depressed an shoot heroin. you could probably understand why he KILLED himself
bigt0530 2 years ago
for godsakes people, kurt did not freakin kill himsellf. if he did, y were there no legible fingerprints on the shotgun? y was there a suicide note in courtneys purse?
californicationify 2 years ago 10
i agree. but it wasnt a suicide note in her purse. it was a practice sheet of imitating kurts handwriting
justice for kurt<3
ImaFushyXD 2 years ago 5
lol i know me and my friend are like really intrested in this and we always resaech it. He wrote that though this is my account, he must have just gotten his facts wrong sorry about that
californicationify 2 years ago
haha s'all good, i research it a lot too, obviously haha.
ImaFushyXD 2 years ago
the suicide note was found in kurts hand by an electrician or something that came to do something at his house and found him dead :/ r.i.p kurt :)
1993matcho 2 years ago
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SENSE!
missyoutub3 2 years ago
@californicationify there was not a suicide note in her purse it was a handwriting practice sheet
Rapter57 1 year ago
@californicationify what the heck there was no suicide note in courtneys purse
alexzzzzzzzz1231234 1 year ago
Courtney love had kurt killed!
thestick169 2 years ago 4
rip kurt
STICHEZ0103 2 years ago 4
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ivelostcontrolagain 2 years ago
i have pink sunglasses like his:)
GirlyrainZubZero 2 years ago
I think Kurt went through a lot and he just wanted to end it while his life was good. R.I.P. Kurt Cobain
claymator101 2 years ago
Kurt deserved better than courtney. RIP
guitarbaby124 2 years ago 22
A monkey with aids would deserve better than Courtney.
perrofrio 2 years ago
Courtney love killed MJ! Might as well of done if she "killed" kurt
Areyouworried 2 years ago
nobody killed him he was a great guy, he was a god on the guitar, but he had issues and it just goes to show u that fame isnt everything. figuratively courtney killed him she was a bitch to him.
RIP Kurt Cobain
you will always be in our memories and your music will rock forever
xoDancer4lifexo7 2 years ago 3
Ah, back when a thousand dollars was alot of money.
rip
sonicboom 2 years ago
idk why but now these days everyone talks about kurts death or shit between nirvana and guns n roses seriously kurt died 15 years ago while GnR made a new horrible album point is nirvana still fucking rocks GnR dont rock as much as they use to in the 80's o drop it people -_-
shroomythetripper 2 years ago 3
I think people should listen to what you said. I know your comment is a month old now, but still, you hit the nail on the head.
Im sure Kurt wouldnt want a bunch of losers from the future arguing about him on the internet.
But still, it would be nice if Kurt got justice.
PatchCornAdams721 2 years ago 6
I, too, am nearly a month late to reply but ohwell.
Kurt definitely wanted whatever was best for Frances, and Courtney getting life or whatever they give to murderers these days would have totally ruined her life. I think it's better this way.
MolkoxLewd 2 years ago
There's no way he would leave Frances without a father, like his dad did to him, he wasn't that selfish.
TheFragile89 2 years ago
You guys are so f*cking messed up. So you think it's good that he died? WTF
skateguru95 2 years ago 2
i love you kurt :(
we miss you.
JAPBEANER 2 years ago 5
this is that bbc documentary!
Darrenmce350 2 years ago 2
what did kurt ever see in courtney?
grungequeen12 2 years ago
yeah he saw that she liked drugs and sex and rock
UnknownPsychoPath 2 years ago
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he killed himself by pulling the trigger with his toe, so obviously there arent gonna be finger prints
squidkid7 2 years ago
he had his shoes on....
greenday775 2 years ago 11
yeah...
lepiaki 2 years ago
He seems very down to earth :)
And can we stop fighting about if he was murdered or killed himself. The poor guy wouldn't have liked that. Just accept his left us but keep him alive with their music.
R.I.P Kurt.
DisenchatedDreams 2 years ago 10
courtney is a slut of course, and she just want money and she sells everything what can expose kurt and that all kind of things, but she can do it, she likes money, good for her... that is shitty too, cuz if she didn't sell everything about kurt there's things that you'll never probaly get to know, so, screw courtney, and screw you,
JackieLovesKC 2 years ago
who cares?!
he's fuckin dead it doesn't matter how he died, if he killed himself he did it cuz he wanted, if someone killed him doesn't matter too, he wanted to die anyway. i'm pretty sure that he's someone really happy now, i hope so... he didn't wanted to go to rehab , probably he was going to die with so many drugs... the only justice that someone can give to kurt is let him rest in peace
JackieLovesKC 2 years ago
kuuuurt!
BiancaWT 2 years ago 2
it was courtney love,she hired a hit man
246DEK74 2 years ago
Either fucking way, everybody i'm speaking to all of you. Kurt's dead. Theres absolutely no point in arguing on how he died. Sadly we may never know. But you guys act like you knew the guy just stop it. If you like his music than listen to it if you don't then don't listen to it. Simple fact. The man was an artist. But what is done is done nothing either one of you on here can do.
mustangcobain65 2 years ago
hey, I luv your comment...
you're totally rigth...
Kisses from Brazil :D
luizahanover33 2 years ago 2
i 100% agree with you..
heavydrinker1 2 years ago 2
His music was becoming extremely Popular, he didn't like the publicity and he became depressed. of course he was drug fucked, but either way, i love kurt, he was a great musician
Jackmyster99 2 years ago 9
everybody says that he killed himself just because suicide may have been one of his subjects, but the case is there werent any fingerprints in the gun, what else you need to know?, besides, he was pretty happy since he had a daughter, you can see that he changed a lot from that, he used to say that she gave him life back
juvipe 2 years ago 2
He was obsessed with Suicide, he used to tell people he didnt worry about being thirty because he would never reach that age. he planned to kill himself from a young age. Drugs mess up people, with or without a plan. Kurt was a great man and I am saddended by his death, but I believe it was suicide.
unlovedangel 2 years ago 5
Until the case is reopened, no one can say for sure if he killed himself or not. However, there was a lot of facts left behind that would be a might big coincidence if he had killed himself. I don't care what your opinion is, but if you don't have facts, shut up
RockRevivalist 2 years ago
kurt did kill himself. think like this, his purpose was done, he had made great music and wat is the point of living with a load of money when ur done with ur life accept the truth guys
jameste12345678910 2 years ago
I knew someone who commited suicide and they seemed happy. So should I blame it on someone because of cirumstance? No. Think about it.
hungryhippos41 2 years ago
miss you kurt...
Higaha 2 years ago 2
i think he did suicide, bcoz few weeks ago, before suicide he tried to kill himself, but he was saved.. So he tried again after few weeks. So I don't believe Courtney or somebody killed him.. (Sorry for my English)
Jovita112 2 years ago
I believe kurt was murdered, in a 1994 interview he seemed happy. WHy would he kill himself? I believe it was courtney who did it, or maybe kurt overdosed on heroin idk r.i.p kurt
JoeBlinkDay 2 years ago
i agree with kurtney
third3ye024 2 years ago
all that matters is he's gone and we all have lost someone great, other than that shut the fuck up
cretinhop21 2 years ago
u all act like he was a happy guy who got everyhting taken away from him. get your facts straight. the dude was depressed and drugged out most of his life. i love kurt but if he were alive today i think he would be pretty pissed off that people dont even blame him for his own deeds. he hated being a star for nothing. he thought he didnt deserve it
zzgtrplyr121 2 years ago
Well said.
" It really sickens me to think that everyone assumes this... they think of me as this defenseless little rocker idiot that's being manipulated by his wife." -- Kurt Cobain to ' The Advocate', 1993
Cookisdwewe 2 years ago
EXACTLY...I know this was a while ago but still it's true people think that he could do no wrong because he was a musical genius...
hungryhippos41 2 years ago
i personaly think he killed himelf
AutumnArson 2 years ago 3
I agree. And I am a huge Nirvana fan....
I think the best respect we can have for him is acknowledge it. Or else we can run around forever trying to prove otherwise, and be in perpetual limbo. Kurt was troubled, and with all the determining factors he left behind, I feel it was his conscious decision.
andros1984 2 years ago
oh and INDLIS after you look at all the facts it is easy to see he didn't kill himself he couldn't of been able to roll done his sleeve and put everything up and then pick up a shotgun with 4 time times the lethal amount of herion in his system.. so fuck you get your shit straight. JUSTICE FOR KURT!!!
thedalton01 2 years ago
yeah i have no doubt in my mind Courtney killed him... i am a really big supporter of Justice For Kurt i even have the myspace as a friend and i really wish they would open the cold case back up and look back into it.. R.I.P Kurt
thedalton01 2 years ago
Courtney killed Kurt Cobain and took him away from nirvana fans so she could get the money instead of getting a divorce from him,It's easy to understand this comment,if not read it through again if you still cant understand then you are disrespecting Kurt.Kurt is a spirit in Nirvana hearts
lukey1910 3 years ago
I do believe Courtny did kill Kurt but it was not for money she already had so much of it she was also in a grunge band "hole" and she played in many movies maybe she did it because they were going to devorce, maybe.
kwizatch 2 years ago
lol yea courtnies mvoies and band was crap
lithium2370 2 years ago
Either way he is physically dead. But spiritually, he is very much alive..
KurtneyForever 3 years ago 5
I think kurt was planning to commit suicide but he didnt dare to do it so he used to mutch drugs so he killed himself, he shouldnt have done it
Tjacka11 3 years ago
NERD ALERT
2Stardumb 3 years ago
[[JUSTICE FOR COURTNEY]]
INDLIS 3 years ago 2
FUCK you veggiegurl06 you are nothing but an ignorant bitch and so is friend GoddessFourwinds.
INDLIS 3 years ago
i miss kurt cobain, RIP!! and i agree with the many saying that we do not really know what happened, but i think we can all agree that we absolutely love his and nirvanas music and we all wish he was still alive! but since he isn't, we have his incredible music to remember him by!! :-)
oxrjbizzle1984y 3 years ago
you are all fuckin idiots fuck off
thankumedaddy 3 years ago
fishballzheadneck dont say he's alive when everyone knows he's not.its not funny.
scdfanatic 3 years ago
RIP Kurt Cobain. You are loved by millions.
heychupacabras 3 years ago
ow alguem traduz essa porra caralho
Ciranorodrigues 3 years ago
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He was a Junkie and the son of the Devil. His life should not be celebrated.
dldowell1122 3 years ago
you all are fuckin dumb hes over my house right now smoking a joint
fishballzheadneck 3 years ago
kurt is one of my idols
pez256 3 years ago
ii Luv That Man .
LeXiiGiiRl21 3 years ago 3
He's dead and gone.Lets stop arguing.None of us know what really happened.Lets just drop it.
BrendanRockStar 3 years ago
Kurt would have hated this, us fans being broken up in to groups. He was murdered no he committed suicide blah blah blah. He would want us to listen to his music and get along. Because it's not gonna change the fact that he's gone. In a way he never left, he's still in our hearts. I'm not defending anyone, I just think Kurt would want us fans to be at peace not at war.Please NO HATE feed back I've just voicing my opinion.
alittlebellastory 3 years ago 8
Dudes just ley him Rest In Peace
KurtCobainLuver11 3 years ago 2
I am 3 months older than Kurt. I'm not denying that he had a heroin problem. I was sickened by it, when he was alive. I hated that he and Courtney seemed so out of control when they had Frances. My own child was born in '89, so I was a young parent when all of that was happening.
When I heard that Kurt had died, I was shocked. Not because he'd died. Because of when he'd died. The evidence says he didn't kill himself. That's the point I keep trying to make.
GoddessFourWinds 3 years ago
well lets agree to disagree. i believe he commited suicide and i dont think you can change my mind.14 years later i still listen to the music and i can remember his death and the affect it had on me.read heavier than heaven it shows him as a person and not an icon it is a very good read even if you feel it is not a balanced account of his life. i have read "who murdered kurt cobain " even though i dont believe it. it has been nice corresponding with you. some people can be offensive, not you.
boundsy65 3 years ago 2
You'd probably be surprised how many people attack me for my convictions. I don't see Kurt as an icon. More like...a distant cousin that I didn't get to know that well. We grew up under similar circumstances, so on many levels I feel like I get him.
I just can't argue the evidence. I'm guessing you've looked at it?
GoddessFourWinds 3 years ago
i get the impression that alot of comments come from people who were not old enough to remember kurt cobain. they just have a second hand account of a performers life and have latched on to the iconic image that has grown up around them. i remember kurt cobain.i was and still am a fan of the music. i remember the stories of how he was destroyed by a fame he did not want. this in the end turned out to be like alot of stories surrounding him to be untrue.and what seems to be forgotten isthe heroin
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