Was the Bible Altered or Written by the illuminati? (NOPE)

[YachtPatron4Eldorado]

The Bible is very corrupted and I have studied it for 30 years..

[fresniak]

@YachtPatron4Eldorado wow 30 years wasted...of your life. If you have a case the bible is "corrupted" then why you have not given any reference yet?

[fresniak]

@radicalphantom1 That was a cheap way to be blocked...go back to your video-games now...

[RandomlyAnimated]

Make a new vid!

[animefan2k9]

paul is a false apostle

[fresniak]

@animefan2k9 Paul received the Holy Spirit of God. He was not a false apostle. I have read and looked into this heresy before and by the word of God I have dismissed it. IF it was true, it would mean the prophecy in the OT that the Gospel would have been brought to the far people of Rome was also not true (since that happened mainly by the works of Paul), and that God could not preserve His True Word. Those who say Paul's doctrine was against that of Christ, did not receive the holy Spirit.

[animefan2k9]

@fresniak no he didn't he is the the false apostle the church of ephesus rejected paul and jesus praised them for it Revelation 2:2. Matthias is the true 12th apostle he met all the requirements to be a replacement for judas. he was there at the begging of jesus ministry to his Resurrection. Acts 1;15-17, 20-22

[fresniak]

@animefan2k9 Matthias has nothing to do with Paul, Matthias was to replace Judah Iscariot. Why are you assuming that only the direct disciples of Jesus should become apostles? Don't you know James the brother of Jesus was also an apostle in Jerusalem and was martyred because of this? And don't you know that because of the Gospel Paul was prosecuted in Ephesus. Where do you get the notion that the false apostle of revelation 2:2 is Paul? And by the way it speaks about false apostles in plural.

[fresniak]

@animefan2k9 In the same revelation passage it is written (About Ephesus): "But I have this against you, that you have abandoned lthe love you had at first". So what does that imply that the first community in Ephesus was the one Jesus really loved. Paul was one of the very first to be an apostle in Ephesus, also He's the first who brings the Holy Spirit baptism to them. (Acts 19:1-7)

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 " BLAMED both Eve and God" and Eve blamed the serpent. So she also blames someone else for HER SIN AND TRANSGRESSION of God's command, she is as guilty as Adam.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "but 'turning away from YHWH toward Adam'. So where the word from YHWH is in the bible? Stick to the facts and the words or I am going to delete your comments because they contain only lies and disinformation

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "We can see from history" history is not the bible, please stop your feminist propaganda and stick to the facts and to the words of the bible. IF you don't I will remove all off-topic comments from you

[truthlover72]

Corruption in translations from the Greek New testament are also found. Example: Romans 13:1 in Greek says the opposite to what perverted English versions state. Rather than being instructed to submit to anti-Christ civil authorities, the Greek says: "Every single soul of ruling, dominating (or) submissive, THEY DO NOT HAVE SUBSTANCE OF RULING IF THEY ARE NOT FROM GOD AND LOYAL TO GOD." Who but satan would teach Christians to bow to & obey those who are obviously NOT FROM GOD or LOYAL TO GOD?

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "Romans 13:1 .. says the opposite..." This is simply a lie. Why are you making this up? I studied ancient greek 5 years. What it says is we should not try to use force against authority. God will not send prophets till the day of the end, which means God does want us to wait. After the new covenant in Christ we have to wait the judgement of God on the world and on God's enemy, we ought not seek worldly justice. This doesnt mean we have to obey laws that are contrary to God's law.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. " This is the translation, your is a perversion and you show no knowledge of greek when you translate the word "υποτασσέσθω" with an adjective and you try to correlate with the "souls" when infact any greek scholar will tell you that is a verb in imperative form which means "be subject to"

[truthlover72]

@fresniak What is meant by 'use of force against authority'? Force as in 'military'? "Our weapons are not carnal..." Deceived & cowardly, materially-minded 'Christians' have submitted to & funded anti-Christ 'governments' which have 'stolen, killed and destroyed' after the manner of their god, satan. Wolves and dupes in pulpits throughout 'Christendom' deceived the 'sheep' & led them out of Christ's Kingdom life into the slave pits & slaughter houses of satan, using perverted 'Bible' passages.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "Not using Force" means we should not take arms and go and subvert governments, that's not supposed to be what a true Christian should do. A christian should be a witness of Jesus Christ and trust God till the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven.

That's the same teaching of Jesus Christ, to turn the other cheek and do not resort to violence.

[truthlover72]

Example: The word 'teshuqa' in Gen. 3:16 was faithfully translated as 'turning' from about 300 B.C. (Septuagint). About the 16th cenury A.D. the word 'turning' began to be replaced by words such as 'desire' and 'lust'. Tranlsators turned to Talmudic rabbis for help in translating from Hebrew to other languages & these anti-Christ misogynists substituted their own perverse INTERPRETATIONS for the actual terminology, leading to all kinds of degradation of women excluding them from Christ's service

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 I can agree that the word "αποστροφή" can mean turn away, it implies that women will be rebellious to man

[truthlover72]

@fresniak Scripture has been perverted to imply that God REWARDED Adam's sin by giving him dominion over Eve. NEVER has YHWH given man dominion over man or woman but only over the other creations of earth. It is satan who promised to make man 'god'. There is enmity between the WOMAN and satan, but NO ENMITY between the MAN and satan. Using MAN, satan has been able to subjugate, oppress and abuse WOMAN. The SAVIOUR was born of a WOMAN because YHWH could not use MAN who carries the 'sin-gene'.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "There is enmity between the WOMAN and satan but NO ENMITY between the MAN and satan" really? So why the scripture says "And the Lord God said unto the serpent, And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel" God is speaking about the seed of the woman. Unless you think women can have only daughters I dont see how your perverted interpretation can hold.

[truthlover72]

@fresniak Nowhere in Genesis 3 does it say that the Lord sent the WOMAN out of Eden. We see by Gen. 3:23 that it was the MAN alone who was sent out because he is sent out "to till the ground from whence he was taken." Eve was not taken 'out of the ground'. Adam was. Eve was not told "cursed [is] the ground for thy sake;...In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground;". Adam was told this. Neither Adam nor Eve were 'cursed by YHWH, but Talmudists curse woman.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 according to your perverse interpretation of the bible then Eve is still in the garden of eden?? God speaks about Adam because God always meant the man be the head of family, but since you have a corrupt view of what a man and a woman ought to be you do not understand that when God commands something to the man the woman will follow, it's always been like that. Wow your perverted doctrine has transformed the woman - Eve into a sort of angel of light.

[truthlover72]

@fresniak Are you just 'playing the fool' or is it genuine? Eve LEFT Eden; followed Adam out of Eden & thereby subjected herself & all her children to all the suffering satan could & would bring against her, using the MAN to do it. Adam was created a single unit & told to 'multiply & fill the earth'. It was when God saw something 'not good' developing in Adam that to SAVE him, He separated elements of spirit, soul and body (not a rib bone) from him & formed Eve. Eve's HEAD was YHWH, not Adam.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 Ok since you insist with your propaganda, ad hominem attacks ("fool") and do not stick to the subject of the video and to the words of the bible text, I will block you from commenting any further.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "και προς τον άνδρα σου η αποστροφή σου και αυτός σου κυριεύσει " this means that a form of disgust / repulsion will be in the woman toward the man (husband). The KJB here puts it this way "and thy desire SHALL be to thy husband" but the word "shall" is in italic, which means this is a license to translate the text. What it implies that for the woman loving the man becomes something they "shall do" not something they feel to do. I think this is related also to the sexual union.

[truthlover72]

@fresniak On the contrary, it was Eve's attachment/affection for Adam that put her in danger of following him into a world where satan, Adam's new 'friend' would destroy both man and woman, including their relationship with each other. YHWH established His ordinance of marriage saying, "For this cause shall a MAN leave his father and mother and cleave to his WIFE." Eve could lawfully remain in Eden. Adam needed to REPENT in order to be allowed to remain or return to be reunited with Eve and YHWH

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "On the contrary, it was Eve's attachment/affection for Adam that put her in danger of following him into a world where satan, " What you call love and affection, I call IDOLATRY. You do not understand the original sin, there is little I can do to help you

[truthlover72]

We must distinguish between the 'Bible' and the Hebrew/Greek text. While there are some errors in Hebrew & Greek text, there are even more errors, accidental and deliberate corruptions, in the 'translations', especially in the English versions. Example: In Genesis the Hebrew word is 'tsela'= 'part/s, chamber/s, side/s', plank/s' whereas English perversion says 'rib', an entirely different Hebrew word 'ala' found only in Daniel, upon which an entire destructive fallacy about women has been built.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 First of all the hebrew and the greek are two different languages. Now you say that greek and hebrew are overall correct while the english translations have errors. I have not found a single error in the King James Bible, while agree other english translations have been corrupted deliberately. Now let's examine your example, you say woman was not made from a rib of adam, yet the greek text says so: "και έλαβε μίαν των πλευρών αυτού και ανεπλήρωσε σάρκα αντ' αυτής"

πλευρών means rib

[truthlover72]

@fresniak I KNOW Hebrew & Greek are two different languages. I am writing inside tiny text boxes. King James Bible errs using the word 'rib' even though 'tsela', not 'ala' remains in the Hebrew text, meaning 'part/s, chamber/s, side/s', plank/s'. KJV also uses the Talmudic rendering 'desire' in place of the word 'turning' for 'tĕshuwqah'. KJV also perverts Romans 13:1 to have Christians submit to corrupt rulers...like King James who rushed his 'authorized' version to market against Geneva Bible.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 more exactly ""και έλαβε μίαν των πλευρών αυτού και ανεπλήρωσε σάρκα αντ' αυτής" means "and took one of the ribs (πλευρών) of him and closed the flesh over on it (the rib)"

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 "upon which an entire destructive fallacy about women.." really? what would be the fallacy let's listen (I guess you're going to build a feminist case here)? the woman is to be a graceful companion for the man, help him, console him, respect his authority. While men should love women and honor them. IF you call this fallacy I do not know where to start to bring you light, you intentionally choose to ignore God's wish for mankind and for creation.

[fresniak]

@truthlover72 by the way the only bone of a man (or woman) that can grow again once taken-out is the rib. Go and check out for yourself in the medical literature. IF you think this is coincidental.. you are entitled to believe that God took away any other parts from Adam (if you want to keep the general hebrew term used). But I fail to see how does this prove that the bible was mistranslated into english (since in greek the word rib is used), and how that supposedly promotes misogyny

[iwanttocrashmybike]

I know,its like hearing fundie atheists claim Jesus never existed when even atheist leader Richard Dawkins admits he did according to all Historians!

[mohawkChristianUFO]

I guess this would be the case if history has not been tampered with "history fiction or science" but if the bible has not been tampered with then that means EVERYTHING in the bible is original, and man I do not want to star qouting.

[fresniak]

@mohawkChristianUFO please start quoting..I would like to know what quotes of the bible do you have that are prior to the bible?

[gr8vibes2]

Great video topic, but faith-based conclusions.

"There are NT fragments."

How do you know this? You read it?

"They found them"

Oh, so indeed you believe what others say. So since you didn't dig yourself, your conclusions are merely purely faith-based assumptions.

But even if people legitimately "found" fragments, where's proof they are sacred literature? Where's proof that they weren't merely a copy of text plagurized from previous lit? So far, this "proof" is totally meaningless.

[fresniak]

@gr8vibes2 You have come to this video with a very the use of an aggressive tone. This does not help the discussion. The dead-sea scrolls as well as the many different fragments and texts around the world have been studied and scrutinized by a lot of people. You can choose to ignore that and think it's a conspiracy but they are there and they are old and belong to very different times. Also did you ignore the rest of the video?What you mean where is the proof they are sacred literature?

[fresniak]

@gr8vibes2 "Where's proof that they weren't merely a copy of text plagurized from previous lit?" I do not follow you. Did you get the first point of the video at all? The point is that it was impossible to change or corrupt the bible cause there are thousands of different texts and fragments found in different times and highly scrutinized that all agree with the same text. Therefore the text has never been altered during time and the dead sea scrolls are indeed the smoking gun.

[fresniak]

@gr8vibes2 The dead sea scroll belong to a period which goes from around 300 b.C. to 100 A.D. but they weren't discovered until very recently 1947. They confirm word by word the texta recaepta.

[fresniak]

@gr8vibes2 I realize the title of the video did not reflect the first point which was trying to prove. So it goes as it follows: 1) Proof and evidence the bible was NOT altered 2) Proof and evidence that the Bible could not have been written by the illuminati (for the logical reason that they would have been exposing themselves) 3) Proof and Evidence that the Bible is on the contrary Anti-Illuminati and Anti-NWO, as evident all through the texts and contains the blue-print for their defeat.