@kerryincolumbus Unsuited? Dude, she's Renee Fleming. Though she's never been my favorite, she's very good at what she does and is very much suited for opera. Judging by your comment, I would guess that your experience with opera is limited. Immerse yourself in opera a little more, find out what is desired from an opera singer (from casting directors, opera audiences,etc.), and then comment on what one the most successful, well-known opera singers of the last 20 years is best suited for.
Renee Fleming.. are you channeling Florence Foster Jenkins? your voice is SO unsuited to Opera... try sticking to operetta in some small town, where they've never heard of you and your VERY over-trained voice! ICK!
@kerryincolumbus come on! Renée Fleming is really good in what she does, I prefer Callas, Caballé, Scotto or even Kabaivanska before Fleming but she IS suited for Opera; judging by your comment you might think Sarah Brightman has a suited voice for Opera LOL get deeper in real opera and you will notice she IS suited for Opera.
@parodycreator25 .... first of all.. you SUCK...second of all Renee Fleming should kiss Sarah Brightman's filthy ASS!! and third, you SUCK! I am VERY aware of what REAL opera is and I can tell you she SUCKS at it! Florence Foster Jenkins (which I'm sure you have no clue who she was) sounded 500 times better than that TERRIBLY Overrated screeching mess Renee Fleming!
@kerryincolumbus of course I know who Janice Foster Jenkins is, you know how? I study at the conservatory of Guatemala and in the history of music I read the story of Jenkins and she was indeed famous for her complete lack of musical hability, just listen to her konigin der nacht of Die Zauberflöte it's completely horrible, you can't compare a Diva like Fleming to a trash can like Jenkins.
@parodycreator25 ooohhhh.. Guatemala.. the conservatory of Guatemala... and you think THAT qualifies YOU to make ANY judgements about good opera singers versus BAD!?!?!? LMAO!!! you suck worse than anyone ever HAS or EVER WILL! when you've studied at Julliard such as I did, and become an expert vocal coach, such as I, THEN you can tell me who's good and who's bad, Guatemala, riiiiiiiiiiiiight.. what do you study, the noise fruit makes as it grows?? WHATEVER!
@kerryincolumbus Julliard, of course, your pretentious comment tells everything, just SHUT THE FUCK UP and go kiss your Julliard teachers' asses, what's in a name? Julliard vs. Guatemala is a name battle, the students make a conservatory good not the name; and if you don't like Fleming just skip the damn video and go watch something else. good night and go throw yourself from a bridge. ;)
@parodycreator25 LOL!!! that's the best you can come up with? go throw yourself from a bridge? you're either mentally retarded or high on crystal meth...or BOTH.. so go FUCK YOURSELF because I'm sure that's the only pleasure you'll EVER get out of life! It sure won't be from a USELESS piece of paper from a so-called conservatory in dopey Guatemala LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL GUATEMALA.. I didn't even know the place still existed !
@kerryincolumbus ya por favor, tranquilícese y por favor muérase, que si usted no respeta mi país no tengo por qué hablarle en un idioma apropiado para usted, si usted se cree superior simplemente por haber estudiado en Julliard, (muy sobre-estimada) es una triste excusa de ser humano, un Guatemalteco ganó el concurso Francisco Viñas, le ganó a por lo menos 2 estudiantes de Julliard, así que por favor cállese y opine cuando aprenda a respetar, buenas noches.
@parodycreator25 ...you can't hide behind that..I know exactly what you said: "and please, please calm down and die, if you do not respect my country I have nothing to talk in a language appropriate for you, if you believe more than simply having studied at Julliard, (very over-estimated) is a sad excuse of human being, a Guatemalan won the Francisco Viñas, won at least 2 students from Julliard, so please shut up and learn to respect opine when, good night" Goodnight you were fun to spar with !
@kerryincolumbus did you used Google transaltor?!?!? you're a funny man, I said:
"stop ti now! calm down and please die, if you don't respect my country I don't have to talk in a language suitable for you, if you believe you're superior simply by studying at Julliard, you're a sad exucse of a human being, a Guatemalan won the Francisco Viñas contest, winning over at least 2 julliard students, so please be quiet and comment, when you can show some respect, good night" .|.
@parodycreator25 LOL!!!! you were a good sport, I'm sure you're doing well at the conservatory.. best of luck in everything you do, and with your passion for life, you should have a great career ahead of you ! Good night!
@kerryincolumbus can't tell if genuine or just a mockery -- but well as my country's culture demand me to not have any kind of remorse against other people I will say,
thank you, it was a really good debate, have a good night and a satisfactory life :D
@kerryincolumbus That's a little extreme.... I do think Renee Fleming has an overly open sound, which I'm not a fan of, though I think she performs Strauss well and is a good operatic actress. To say she sounds worse than Florence Foster Jenkings though, while humorous, is a pretty silly statement. Renee definitely doesn't have the "character voice" for this song (she really needs to put her voice more forward), but at least her rendition isn't messy. I've heard much worse.
Many sing this beautifully. It is really great to appreciate the differences in timbre and interpretation, each different, all great. Renee is certainly one of the great singers!
Tienes buenas crìticas, empero, yo creo que exageras mucho en vibrar la voz, mi buena Renee y, eso hace que se te entienda un poquito menos lo que cantas. Sè que es tu estilo y que muchos me juzgaràn... pero, esa es mi humilde opiniòn. Disculpa. Sin embargo, eres muy buena y NADIE TE LO QUITA, ni tus tus mèritos... ¡Eres grande!
A coloratura aria sung by a voice which isn't genuine coloratura. Fleming's a purely a lyric soprano but coloratura arias like this one and Marguerite's Jewel Song in Faust are commonly sung by most lyric sopranos. Caballe & Sutherland both sang this years before Fleming. I think this is rather good only because Fleming mastered the French opera repertoire quite well. Her Manon & Thais are glorious. But she should stay away from coloratura which is why her Italian bel canto is wrong for her
@OperaMystery80 I respectfully disagree. She is not a lyric soprano. Her voice is far too heavy for a lyric. I would classify her either as a heavier dramatic or lighter spinto. However, you are more than entitled to your opinion. Peace!
@flowersings Some lyrics have a heavy big voice. Full lyrics include Joan Sutherland, Montserrat Caballe, Leontyne Price, Anna Tomowa Sintow, Edda Moser, Carol Vaness, Anna Netrebko & Angela Gheorghiu. Fleming's never been a heavy dramatic, that would mean she can sing roles like Brunnhilde, Isolde, Norma, Tosca, Kundry, Lady Macbeth. I don't hear that heavy a sound coming from her. She's neither heavy or light
@OperaMystery80 Actually you gave some wrong informations. Full Lyrics are best known by their strong and powerfull voices that can sustain high notes for a really long time and specially by the easily wich they make themselves be heard over a really big orchestra. And as examples of Full Lyrics we have: Renee Fleming, Anna Netrebko, Angela Gheorgiu, Montserrat Caballe, Kiri Te Kanawa and Victoria de los Ángeles. Edda Moser is a dramatic coloratura with a huge range. =)
@pedrofribeiro But their voices are finite and limited. No one opera singer can sing EVERYTHING. Very few can sing both mezzo or contralto ranges and high soprano ranges. Fleming is a full lyric but she can't sing Tosca, Norma, Salome, Brunhilde, Isolde, Carmen or Aida. She's very limited. Her thing is she jazzes up opera - slower legato, longer held notes, rapid moves up and down octaves; I also think she doesn't have powerful lower notes. Callas was the exception who could sing almost anything
@OperaMystery80 You have a point. Actually, that type of voice is really not that good with lower notes, but I think that Renee is an exception. Her range is Eb3 up to G#6, quite a range for a full lyric, wich usually is C4 to D6. So, she can sing Carmen, Tosca, Norma, Salome, Isolda, but not Bunhilde neither Aida, they're too heavy. Renee's biggest problem is really the slow legatto, as you said. To be fair, her trills are not that good either, but she owns both perfect staccatto and glissando.
@pedrofribeiro Its the quality of her voice that counts... She CAN'T sing Carmen (Dramatic Mezzo), Tosca (Dramatic Soprano) , Salome (DS) , Isolde (Wagnerian Soprano) ... b/c these roles are already toooo heavy Renee said so herself in an interview :/
@MusicVocalism Well, if she said it, ok... But she have a suitable range for all those roles, and the "dark" timbre is there, if she doesn't want to sing using it to doesn't "damage" her lyric "side" is another story... Renee possess one of the richest voices of our time, good in all tessituras, with beautifull high notes, a powerfull middle register and a dark bottom register with great low notes.
@AmericanEvita This is a very narrow opinion indeed and seems to miss the point of music. The ARTIST interprets the music as he or she sees fit and delivers their rendition after years of serious dedication and knowledge gained from first hand exposure to the finest singers in the world. This is what each individual brings and builds upon the rich experience of the performance. Otherwise you might as well only limit yourself to a few voices.
@AmericanEvita I know that that doesn't count as her singing the entire role of Norma...but Casta Diva is Norma's biggest aria, so you get the idea. & I dont' think she thinks it's too risky b/c she's the world's leading operatic soprano.............i mean she's already done a whole Met gala ALL BY HERSELF!!! just saying! :)
I love this, very gorgeous singing of Juliet's Waltz Aria. I love Renee Fleming singing French opera - she can sing Manon & Marguerite in Faust in addition to Juliet. But I'm afraid she can't sing everything, no Norma for her, no Tosca, no Aida, no Trovatore, no Lucia. Her bel canto is awful. Her latest verisimo isn't any good either.
@Rcoppin91 Yeah I agree. She sang a few scenes from Lucia. There's a video of her singing the Act 1 Duet with Pavarotti. But why hasn't she sang the entire role of Lucia ? Why doe she choose NOT to do it ? She's also 50-ish now. It may be too late for her to sing Lucia. Her Traviata was added only a few years ago.
No, It's not. I'm listening to Renee exactely after Natalie Dessay, and it's te exact same key they're singing. Just two extremely beautiful, but completely different voices...
@kerryincolumbus Unsuited? Dude, she's Renee Fleming. Though she's never been my favorite, she's very good at what she does and is very much suited for opera. Judging by your comment, I would guess that your experience with opera is limited. Immerse yourself in opera a little more, find out what is desired from an opera singer (from casting directors, opera audiences,etc.), and then comment on what one the most successful, well-known opera singers of the last 20 years is best suited for.
loginn19 2 months ago
@loginn19 .....I have one last thing to say... SHE SUCKS!!! no one sucks WORSE THAN RENEE FLEMING.. except for possibly YOU and your STUPID opinion
kerryincolumbus 2 months ago
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loginn19 2 months ago
Renee Fleming.. are you channeling Florence Foster Jenkins? your voice is SO unsuited to Opera... try sticking to operetta in some small town, where they've never heard of you and your VERY over-trained voice! ICK!
kerryincolumbus 2 months ago
@kerryincolumbus come on! Renée Fleming is really good in what she does, I prefer Callas, Caballé, Scotto or even Kabaivanska before Fleming but she IS suited for Opera; judging by your comment you might think Sarah Brightman has a suited voice for Opera LOL get deeper in real opera and you will notice she IS suited for Opera.
parodycreator25 2 months ago
@parodycreator25 .... first of all.. you SUCK...second of all Renee Fleming should kiss Sarah Brightman's filthy ASS!! and third, you SUCK! I am VERY aware of what REAL opera is and I can tell you she SUCKS at it! Florence Foster Jenkins (which I'm sure you have no clue who she was) sounded 500 times better than that TERRIBLY Overrated screeching mess Renee Fleming!
kerryincolumbus 2 months ago
@kerryincolumbus of course I know who Janice Foster Jenkins is, you know how? I study at the conservatory of Guatemala and in the history of music I read the story of Jenkins and she was indeed famous for her complete lack of musical hability, just listen to her konigin der nacht of Die Zauberflöte it's completely horrible, you can't compare a Diva like Fleming to a trash can like Jenkins.
parodycreator25 2 months ago
@parodycreator25 ooohhhh.. Guatemala.. the conservatory of Guatemala... and you think THAT qualifies YOU to make ANY judgements about good opera singers versus BAD!?!?!? LMAO!!! you suck worse than anyone ever HAS or EVER WILL! when you've studied at Julliard such as I did, and become an expert vocal coach, such as I, THEN you can tell me who's good and who's bad, Guatemala, riiiiiiiiiiiiight.. what do you study, the noise fruit makes as it grows?? WHATEVER!
kerryincolumbus 2 months ago
@kerryincolumbus Julliard, of course, your pretentious comment tells everything, just SHUT THE FUCK UP and go kiss your Julliard teachers' asses, what's in a name? Julliard vs. Guatemala is a name battle, the students make a conservatory good not the name; and if you don't like Fleming just skip the damn video and go watch something else. good night and go throw yourself from a bridge. ;)
parodycreator25 2 months ago
@parodycreator25 LOL!!! that's the best you can come up with? go throw yourself from a bridge? you're either mentally retarded or high on crystal meth...or BOTH.. so go FUCK YOURSELF because I'm sure that's the only pleasure you'll EVER get out of life! It sure won't be from a USELESS piece of paper from a so-called conservatory in dopey Guatemala LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL GUATEMALA.. I didn't even know the place still existed !
kerryincolumbus 2 months ago
@kerryincolumbus ya por favor, tranquilícese y por favor muérase, que si usted no respeta mi país no tengo por qué hablarle en un idioma apropiado para usted, si usted se cree superior simplemente por haber estudiado en Julliard, (muy sobre-estimada) es una triste excusa de ser humano, un Guatemalteco ganó el concurso Francisco Viñas, le ganó a por lo menos 2 estudiantes de Julliard, así que por favor cállese y opine cuando aprenda a respetar, buenas noches.
parodycreator25 2 months ago
@parodycreator25 ...you can't hide behind that..I know exactly what you said: "and please, please calm down and die, if you do not respect my country I have nothing to talk in a language appropriate for you, if you believe more than simply having studied at Julliard, (very over-estimated) is a sad excuse of human being, a Guatemalan won the Francisco Viñas, won at least 2 students from Julliard, so please shut up and learn to respect opine when, good night" Goodnight you were fun to spar with !
kerryincolumbus 2 months ago
@kerryincolumbus did you used Google transaltor?!?!? you're a funny man, I said:
"stop ti now! calm down and please die, if you don't respect my country I don't have to talk in a language suitable for you, if you believe you're superior simply by studying at Julliard, you're a sad exucse of a human being, a Guatemalan won the Francisco Viñas contest, winning over at least 2 julliard students, so please be quiet and comment, when you can show some respect, good night" .|.
parodycreator25 2 months ago
@parodycreator25 LOL!!!! you were a good sport, I'm sure you're doing well at the conservatory.. best of luck in everything you do, and with your passion for life, you should have a great career ahead of you ! Good night!
kerryincolumbus 2 months ago
@kerryincolumbus can't tell if genuine or just a mockery -- but well as my country's culture demand me to not have any kind of remorse against other people I will say,
thank you, it was a really good debate, have a good night and a satisfactory life :D
parodycreator25 2 months ago
@kerryincolumbus That's a little extreme.... I do think Renee Fleming has an overly open sound, which I'm not a fan of, though I think she performs Strauss well and is a good operatic actress. To say she sounds worse than Florence Foster Jenkings though, while humorous, is a pretty silly statement. Renee definitely doesn't have the "character voice" for this song (she really needs to put her voice more forward), but at least her rendition isn't messy. I've heard much worse.
Samarachelle 2 weeks ago
@kerryincolumbus Whoops, Jenkins*
Samarachelle 2 weeks ago
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Actually, THIS IS the person who provided Castafiore's voice.
lailany27 2 months ago
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lailany27 2 months ago
Wow! I watched Tin tin.
I had to wait for the end credits to see who sang this.
raindyns 3 months ago
Tintin brought me here.
Spalooley 3 months ago
The reason her version is my favorite is because of her trill in the beginning. PERFECT.
SouthPacific005 4 months ago
Many sing this beautifully. It is really great to appreciate the differences in timbre and interpretation, each different, all great. Renee is certainly one of the great singers!
operafan0anegnd 4 months ago
Tienes buenas crìticas, empero, yo creo que exageras mucho en vibrar la voz, mi buena Renee y, eso hace que se te entienda un poquito menos lo que cantas. Sè que es tu estilo y que muchos me juzgaràn... pero, esa es mi humilde opiniòn. Disculpa. Sin embargo, eres muy buena y NADIE TE LO QUITA, ni tus tus mèritos... ¡Eres grande!
MusiCALIDADEduardoSi 6 months ago
Dal vivo una bellissima voce,brava!
bodiloto 11 months ago
A coloratura aria sung by a voice which isn't genuine coloratura. Fleming's a purely a lyric soprano but coloratura arias like this one and Marguerite's Jewel Song in Faust are commonly sung by most lyric sopranos. Caballe & Sutherland both sang this years before Fleming. I think this is rather good only because Fleming mastered the French opera repertoire quite well. Her Manon & Thais are glorious. But she should stay away from coloratura which is why her Italian bel canto is wrong for her
OperaMystery80 1 year ago
@OperaMystery80 I respectfully disagree. She is not a lyric soprano. Her voice is far too heavy for a lyric. I would classify her either as a heavier dramatic or lighter spinto. However, you are more than entitled to your opinion. Peace!
Happy Yt listening!
flowersings 9 months ago
@flowersings Some lyrics have a heavy big voice. Full lyrics include Joan Sutherland, Montserrat Caballe, Leontyne Price, Anna Tomowa Sintow, Edda Moser, Carol Vaness, Anna Netrebko & Angela Gheorghiu. Fleming's never been a heavy dramatic, that would mean she can sing roles like Brunnhilde, Isolde, Norma, Tosca, Kundry, Lady Macbeth. I don't hear that heavy a sound coming from her. She's neither heavy or light
OperaMystery80 9 months ago
@OperaMystery80 Actually you gave some wrong informations. Full Lyrics are best known by their strong and powerfull voices that can sustain high notes for a really long time and specially by the easily wich they make themselves be heard over a really big orchestra. And as examples of Full Lyrics we have: Renee Fleming, Anna Netrebko, Angela Gheorgiu, Montserrat Caballe, Kiri Te Kanawa and Victoria de los Ángeles. Edda Moser is a dramatic coloratura with a huge range. =)
pedrofribeiro 8 months ago
@pedrofribeiro But their voices are finite and limited. No one opera singer can sing EVERYTHING. Very few can sing both mezzo or contralto ranges and high soprano ranges. Fleming is a full lyric but she can't sing Tosca, Norma, Salome, Brunhilde, Isolde, Carmen or Aida. She's very limited. Her thing is she jazzes up opera - slower legato, longer held notes, rapid moves up and down octaves; I also think she doesn't have powerful lower notes. Callas was the exception who could sing almost anything
OperaMystery80 8 months ago
@OperaMystery80 You have a point. Actually, that type of voice is really not that good with lower notes, but I think that Renee is an exception. Her range is Eb3 up to G#6, quite a range for a full lyric, wich usually is C4 to D6. So, she can sing Carmen, Tosca, Norma, Salome, Isolda, but not Bunhilde neither Aida, they're too heavy. Renee's biggest problem is really the slow legatto, as you said. To be fair, her trills are not that good either, but she owns both perfect staccatto and glissando.
pedrofribeiro 8 months ago
@pedrofribeiro Its the quality of her voice that counts... She CAN'T sing Carmen (Dramatic Mezzo), Tosca (Dramatic Soprano) , Salome (DS) , Isolde (Wagnerian Soprano) ... b/c these roles are already toooo heavy Renee said so herself in an interview :/
MusicVocalism 8 months ago
@MusicVocalism Well, if she said it, ok... But she have a suitable range for all those roles, and the "dark" timbre is there, if she doesn't want to sing using it to doesn't "damage" her lyric "side" is another story... Renee possess one of the richest voices of our time, good in all tessituras, with beautifull high notes, a powerfull middle register and a dark bottom register with great low notes.
pedrofribeiro 8 months ago
@hinatarocks88888 Okay. It's too early in the morning to argue. But your arguments seem to make sense.
psychicbyinternet 1 year ago
@hinatarocks88888 Listen to Diana Damrau and Natalie Dessay (who is actually French).
psychicbyinternet 1 year ago
@AmericanEvita This is a very narrow opinion indeed and seems to miss the point of music. The ARTIST interprets the music as he or she sees fit and delivers their rendition after years of serious dedication and knowledge gained from first hand exposure to the finest singers in the world. This is what each individual brings and builds upon the rich experience of the performance. Otherwise you might as well only limit yourself to a few voices.
gczwarkiel 1 year ago
Beautiful and competent, indeed... but to me she doesn't sound anything like a teenage girl in love
lisamayavonB 1 year ago 5
i do like Renee Flemming's voice and this is one of her best aria's. My favourite of hers is stil Vilja from Die Lustige Witwe.
RabbiF 1 year ago 4
@AmericanEvita I know that that doesn't count as her singing the entire role of Norma...but Casta Diva is Norma's biggest aria, so you get the idea. & I dont' think she thinks it's too risky b/c she's the world's leading operatic soprano.............i mean she's already done a whole Met gala ALL BY HERSELF!!! just saying! :)
musicaltheatrestar 1 year ago
I love this, very gorgeous singing of Juliet's Waltz Aria. I love Renee Fleming singing French opera - she can sing Manon & Marguerite in Faust in addition to Juliet. But I'm afraid she can't sing everything, no Norma for her, no Tosca, no Aida, no Trovatore, no Lucia. Her bel canto is awful. Her latest verisimo isn't any good either.
MastersoftheOpera 2 years ago
@MastersoftheOpera I think her Lucia would be great! She has everything needed to make a great Lucia.
Rcoppin91 1 year ago
@Rcoppin91 Yeah I agree. She sang a few scenes from Lucia. There's a video of her singing the Act 1 Duet with Pavarotti. But why hasn't she sang the entire role of Lucia ? Why doe she choose NOT to do it ? She's also 50-ish now. It may be too late for her to sing Lucia. Her Traviata was added only a few years ago.
MastersoftheOpera 1 year ago
@MastersoftheOpera there's actually a recording of Renee singing Norma on Youtube!
musicaltheatrestar 1 year ago
Damn that is a fantastic high C at the end! I wish she would always sing em like that ;)
OperaLover84 2 years ago
wow! I had never heard her sing stuff with coloratura!! No idea she could move like that...is there anything this woman can't do?
ddanielsoprano 2 years ago
Yes; she can't sing Norma
MastersoftheOpera 2 years ago
Uau! A melhor versão mesmo...
mariliamesmo 2 years ago
It doesn't get any better than this.
lady00010 2 years ago
me rectifico nataly dessay no es la mejor en esta aria...esta la gran Renee:D
merlinfan1006 2 years ago
Is this transposed down?
peteobh 2 years ago
No, It's not. I'm listening to Renee exactely after Natalie Dessay, and it's te exact same key they're singing. Just two extremely beautiful, but completely different voices...
MisZing 2 years ago 7
I love Renee Fleming! I only recently discovered her voice. I love this song and I am happy to hear her sing it.
*Just wanted to let you know about a typo. Her name is spelled: Renee. It makes a big difference when searching for videos.
parrisani 3 years ago