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  • What in the world? Where is the video!? LOL!

  • Are you to lazy to go to a user named BonoboBill and find the videos? Fine. I'll link them here.

    ERVs:

    /watch?v=De-OkzTUDVA

    Chromosome #2:

    /watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0

  • I wasn't talking about the ERV or the Chromosome ones. I'll probably watch those as well, but I was looking for a video under this heading

    "Evolution nwo debate world order science". And this is what pops out... lol.

  • Ah. Sorry about that. But you should watch the videos. They present extremely conclusive bits of evidence of evolution.

  • Those look like the same type of skulls that evolutionists use in their hoaxes.

  • hoaxes.. Yes, absolutely, its a huge conspiracy where we all plot how to shake your faith in god, and promote all that is evil.

    I also believe theres a huge conspiracy where they prevent me from winning the lotery.

    If you really think its a hoax, just search for ken miller, he'll talk about the trials where evolution and ID basically fought it out. And yes, us evildoers won >,>

  • Actually, since evolution is still being taught cuz of an activist judge, everyone lost. Eventually, the majority of the ppl will have their way, and children that go to school will have a reason to live morally, and they won't act like wild animals by shooting up the schools, cuz they'll be considered human beings. At least, your first sentence is correct, but you'll need to do better than that. I already know what are evolutionary hoaxes. Too many to count.

  • You claim the judge to be activist, is this an assumption you make one everyone who disagreeswith you or is there anything solid behind that statement? As for evolutionary hoaxes taught at school, either name one or i'll make the assumption you can't count :) Btw if you're talking about the judge i think you're talking about, I'm gonna have a field trip with your statement ^^

  • Lucy is a hoax that is still taught in schools. Also, I'm saying that all judges that can accept a fairy tale like Darwinism, are activist judges. It just like The Princess and The Frog Prince, except in the place of the kissing princess, evolution uses "millions of yrs." as its hero. The "geologic column" is a hoax that is taught in school, too.

  • Lucy was found with no hands or feet or knee caps, but the St. Louis Zoo displays her with hairy human feet, so she'd look like an ape-woman. Her knee cap was found 2 miles away from where she was found, and 200 ft. deeper in the ground. She's an ape! The "geologic column" is proven a hoax with all the polystrata fossils that are passing thru many layers, proving it to be sediment from a Flood.

  • The geologic colum is real. There are ares where you can see every single layer.

  • The layers were formed by sediment from the Flood. You can take a large clear jar, and put dirt in it, and some water, and shake it up, and you will see different colored layers in that jar, too. The so called "Cambrian Explosion" and polystrate fossilized trees defy evolution in the so called "geologic column". This is a real problem for evolution.

  • That would seem true, but that would mean they are sorted by desnity, and they aren't. Neither are the fossils.

    The fossilized trees were found in dried rivers.

    The Cambreain explosion is when oxygen level rose, allowing for more complex organisms. It's called punctuated equilibrium. These aren't problens for evolution. They've been solved for years now.

  • Those layers have polystrate fossilized trees going through them. That proves that the layers are sediment from a flood. There are polystrate fossilized trees all over the world, showing that this Flood was world-wide. This defies evolution. The Cambrian Explosion (the bottom layer) shows life suddenly appearing from nowhere, proving it was actually only Flood sediment. Flood sediment while settling would form layers.

  • Those trees are almost always found in a dried river, and the rest of the time they show eviednce that the trees simply grew through soft soil. This argument was debunked years ago. It doesn't defy evolution, and it's a long way from proving a world-wide flood. Especially since they were never able to give a explanation as to where the water came from that wasn't impossible.

  • The cambreian explosion was handled. Oxygen levels rose, allowing more complex organiosms to develop. It's called ounctuated equilibrium. Also, we have found fossilized single-celled organisms in layers much older than from teh Cambrian era.

    The sediment layers from a flood would be sorted according to density. That isn't seen in real life. The flood is impossible.

  • Age of the earth:

    Search for "why young earth creationists are wrong" on youtube.

    About your prejudice about any judge that disagrees with you, look for "Ken Miller" on youtube. The judge in Ohio that called the ID 'scientists' LIARS was a church going judge appointed by a christian governor. You dont have to take anyones word for it, google on it.

    Ken miller also gives evidence from the Genome project that man kind DID evolve from the ape (chromosome #2).

  • The are church goers that believe in evolution, although they are being deceived. This is a growing list of 686 scientists (there are about 200 biologists on that list), that don't believe in Darwinism...

    discovery(.)org/scripts/viewDB­/filesDB-download(.)php?comman­d=download&id=660

    ... so I won't take yours, or Ken Miller's word for it.

  • If you had to take my / Kenn Millers WORD, it would be a theism, not a science. You can search and study to have these things confirmed or show me proof that Kenn Miller is a liar. I gave you the proof, if you want to close your eyes and hide behind a list of names, its your prerogative. Enjoy your ignorance.

  • Ken Miller isn't the final word. It only proves that you believe him, nothing else. If you want to ignore 686 other real scientists who don't believe in Darwinism (they don't believe man evolved from an ape), then that's your prerogative. Enjoy your blind faith.

  • That all depends on whether or not you want to believe 75,000 scientists who do (EI, over 98% of all scientists).

  • I haven't seen a list with 75,000 scientists that are in favor of Darwinism. That is only an opinion. My opinion is that, many more don't believe in Darwinism, but haven't come forward yet, because of pressure from the pseudo-scientific community. As more come forward, the quicker those scientists will jump off the Darwinian sinking ship.

  • Look it up. 75000 scientists signed a list. Scientist from all fields, more than 95% agree with evolution. From feilds related to evolution, over 98% agree.

    It doesn't matter if many more don't. Unless over 37,500 scientists don't believe in it, you're a minority. Check the evidence and you'll se evolution is real.

  • I looked it up, and nowhere did I find anything about 75000 scientists agreeing with evolution. I did your work for you, and you lose. Also, if there was a list of 75000 scientists that agreed with evolution, that doesn't make it true, anymore than the majority agreeing with Hitler, that it's alright to murder the Jews.

  • I tried to find your list of 75000 scientists, and it doesn't exist. Since, I did your job of trying to find it, and didn't, I guess I win.

    Even if the majority believed in evolution, that wouldn't prove evolution is right, just like if the majority believed it was alright to kill the Jews in Nazi Germany, that wouldn't make it right either. There is no evolution evidence.

  • Look in the FAQ of talkorigins(org). You won't find a list, but you'll see studies indicating creationists are in an extremely vast minority.

    What are you talking about? Evolution has mountains of evidence. Fossils, genetics, anatomy, behavior distinctions. Do some research. You clearly get your info from Kent Hovind seminars.

  • "mountains of evidence..." I know there is not much space for that, and I do know there are some things Creationism can't explain (like evolution, things are believed) but would you mind giving some examples of these "Moutains of evidence"? I haven't read this whole thread, but I will in just a moment. Thanks in advance.

  • Look up ERVs. A user named BonoboBill has a video about them. He also has a video about Chromosome #2. They're very strong peice of evidence.

  • Then Ken Miller is obviously an evolutionist/gap theorist. The fact that he is a "church going judge appointed by a christian governor" doesn't make him a biblical creationist. Just like going to a garage doesn't make you a car, going to church doesn't make you a christian. In any case, the gap theory clearly contradicts the bible by putting death before sin. Clear and simple heresy nothing to it - even though some notable and devoted (no doubt about it) men of God believe/d it.

  • "Then Ken Miller is obviously an evolutionist/gap theorist."

    He is an evolutionist, but he's not a gap theorist. It's more of a contextual interpretation.

    "The fact that he is a "church going judge appointed by a christian governor" doesn't make him a biblical creationist."

    He isn't a creationist. He's actually intelligent.

  • "In any case, the gap theory clearly contradicts the bible by putting death before sin."

    The Bible says that there are two types of death. Spiritual death and physical death. Taken in context, Genesis is refering to spiritual death.

    "Clear and simple heresy nothing to it - even though some notable and devoted (no doubt about it) men of God believe/d it. "

    There are other ways to interpret things besides your own. Shrinking your world doesn't make the rest of it go away.

  • This guy is either joking or he is willfully ignorant.

  • Millions of years is supported by every other branch of science. Yes, if it wasn't for millions of years it's impossible. So? All of the scientific impossibilities in the Bible uses "God did it" as it's hero.

  • Evolution causes violence now? I can't wait to hear this explanation? would it be because we came from apes? So what? evolution doesn't say how to act. It doesn't give us permission to act like monkeys anymore than it gives monkeys permission to act like cats. And even if evolution does do that, that doesn't make it wrong. And the majority (creationists) are wrong in this case.

  • It doesn't appear that you are 100% sure that evolution doesn't cause violence, when you said,"And even if evolution does do that, that doesn't make it wrong." What does make evolution wrong, is that it doesn't happen.

  • Notice how I used the words " even if", as in if that were to magically become true. But I am sure it doesn't. There is no relation between the two.

  • Barely any were hoaxes. The rest are all authentic. And the scintists were the ones who revealed them to be hoaxes. Why would they debunk thier own hoax? Do some fvckin' research before you call scientists liars.

  • They would debunk there own hoaxes, because the damage has already been done. Many hoaxes are still taught in textbooks. They won't been taken out, till the students begin eating green bananas and start climbing trees. In other words... the hoaxes will stay. They won't own up to it, that Lucy is a hoax.

  • So they want the students to act like monkeys? Why? You're just tossing up a plan that has no reason behind it. Also, evolution doesn't make people act that way. I know evolution is real and I don't act like a monkey. Evolution doesn't say anything about behavior.

  • What evolution does, is take away the previous morals that were taught in schools 40 yrs ago, that were Biblically based, and replaced them with nothing. Now we have more school shootings, crime is up, and there is much more immorality, such as homosexuality, girls having kids without being married, abortions, murders, teacher/children relationships, pedophile activity, porn, etc. When evolution replaced God in the schools, starting around 1963, immorality dropped quickly.

  • Evolution doesn't take away morals. Also, since other cultures that had no access to the Bible appeared to have the same morals, it is clear we don't get our morals from the Bible. The more school shootings has no connection with evolution. Pre marital pregancy can be attributed to women having to depend less on husbands for survival.

  • Abortions were unsafe back then, and improvements are the more likely cause. Teacher/children relationships show no significant increase. Pedophile activity is more likely related to the internet. If you check the carts, some of these trend stared a few years sooner.

  • Barely any were hoaxes? Here are some... Nebraska Man, Peking Man, Piltdown Man, Archaeoraptor, Coelacanth, Lucy, Java Man, Orce Man, Ernst Haeckel's embryo chart, geologic column, Neanderthal Man, Vestigial Organs, Peppered Moth, Ambulacetus, Indonesian Hobbit, etc. National Geographic is a big hoax contributor, cus of their desceptive drawings of creatures.

  • Nebraska Man:A MISTAKE corrected by scientists.

    Peking Man:Not a fake, but remains were destroyed

    Piltdown Man: Corrected by scientists

    Archaeoraptor:Corrected by scientists

    Coelacanth: A real fish, just though to be extinct.

    Lucy: Unproven that she was a fake

    Java Man:Probably a fake, but unproven. I think it should be taken out of textbooks

  • Orce Man:Undecided

    Ernst Haeckel's embryo chart:Not entirely accurate, but not a fake. It's been corrected. We now use a more accurate chart.

    geologic column: Real

    Neanderthal Man: Unable to find

    Vestigial Organs: Real. Apendix has no proven function. The pelvis in whales is useful, but the femur has no purpose.

  • Let me give you a hand in two of those -

    Geologic Column: Evolutionists admit that the column does not physically exist - "Earth Science" text book (1989, p.326) quotes "Unfortunately, no such column exists..." You will only see the column in text books.

    Lucy: The right question to ask is, was she ever proven real outside of an artist's depiction?

  • The geologic column is a REFERENCE. It's the ideal representation composed of data after removing erosionm faulting and folding. It's not meant to be taken literally as perfect. It's just used as a reference. It is real.

    Also, the perfect geologic column you see in textbooks exists in at least 26 places on earth.

  • The same places where trees are found petrified happily piercing through all of the geological eras, while being carbonated at the bottom and at the top at the same time? If that is a reference to the age of anything, then that trees found this way took at least 300 million years to die and fossilize that way. No, the geological column is not accurate, nor should it be used for anything.

  • "The same places where trees are found petrified happily piercing through all of the geological eras, while being carbonated at the bottom and at the top at the same time?"

    Those trees are found in layers seperate from the egologic column. They only exist in areas near the trees. Those trees were burried rapidly by local floods, which explains why these trees are always found near dried up rivers, and other bodies of water.

  • "If that is a reference to the age of anything, then that trees found this way took at least 300 million years to die and fossilize that way. No, the geological column is not accurate, nor should it be used for anything. "

    Since those trees are burried in layers completely seperate from the column and are found near dried-up rivers, it shows that they were burried rapidly by numerous local floods. The geologic column is irrelevant because the layers are seperate from the column.

  • Lucy is 100% real. The only argument creationists have that Lucy is a fake is that he knee joint was found miles away. And that argument is a lie. That knee joint was a SEPERATE fidning of another member of the same species, and it was discovered 1 or 2 years before Lucy was. Lucy in reality has no knee joint.

  • Orce Man:Undecided

    Ernst Haeckel's embryo chart:Not entirely accurate, but not a fake. It's been corrected. We now use a more accurate chart.

    geologic column: Real

    Neanderthal Man: Unable to find

    Vestigial Organs: Real. Apendix has no proven function. The pelvis in whales is useful, but the femur has no purpose.

    Any evidence showing that all they oublish is a hoax other than these, which scientists, and NG, corrected?

  • ...please stop.

  • that's so emo...

  • this shit aint better

    than hot chicks this shit is dumb

  • I understand that your crazy for metal, But no need to get horny off of some toys just look at the chicks man, Not the toys.

  • the fuck was that?!!

  • I gave up watching hot chicks for this crap!

  • no free speech for you

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